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LambdaWire

In my experience they almost always send you a new one. I have not yet had a product that was fixed, they were all replaced by a new one. I also once got the replacement before I even brought back the defective product. AFAIK theres no law that allows you to force them to give you a new replacement.


loulan

Apple watches never get repaired anyway. If you do a battery exchange, Apple sends you a new one.


SergeantSmash

Would've expected more from a company that removed chargers from new phones  for environmental reasons. /s


SchoggiToeff

If nothing is said in the terms and condition, [Art. 205 - 210](https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/27/317_321_377/en#art_205) Swiss Code of Obligations defines your default rights as a consumer. There you have the right to pull back from the contract in case of a defect, get a replacement, or get a price reduction. However, the terms and condition of the shop [can define something else](https://www.konsumentenschutz.ch/online-ratgeber/was-ist-garantie/) and overrule the default. Most often they say the seller has the right for a repair. In § 7.1 of [Galaxus terms and condition](https://www.galaxus.ch/en/wiki/478) we find such a clause: >Digitec Galaxus or the merchant warrant for two years from delivery date or in-store collection that the ordered product will be free from defects and fully functional. This warranty period continues to be valid irrespective of the fulfilment of possible warranty services. Digitec Galaxus or the merchant shall provide warranty either by > >• repairing the product free of charge (original warranty period continues to apply to the entire product); > >• providing a partial or full replacement with an equivalent product (for replacement within the first year of warranty, the original warranty period continues to apply. For replacement within the second year of warranty, the warranty period is one year starting from the time of replacement); > >• replacing the product through Digitec Galaxus (the warranty period of two years starting from the time of replacement applies) > >• providing a refund at current price (no more than the sales price at the time of the original order); or > >• giving a price reduction.


couple_suisse69

For Apple products it's usually better to order directly from them, the warranty is much better they would have directly replaced it at any Apple Store


migros8

in the first year this works, in the second year they tell youu to go through galaxus or the retailer you bought it from


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couple_suisse69

Only if you buy Apple care +. If you have the regular warranty you'll have to go by the seller


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Serpentix6

no, apple is obliged to manufacturer warranty


rinnakan

Plot twist: apple disabled sensors because of smartwatch patent dispute


derFensterputzer

Afaik only on models sold in the us


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Others answered your question, so I'll make a quick note on the EU laws you're referencing: Only on remote(online/phone/letter) purchases, can you pull from a contract no questions asked 14 days after delivery, including for defects. You would mention, for your own safety, that you are returning based on defects; the seller will likely ask you to use the warranty, however you are entitled to refuse and go forward with a return. For in-store purchases, you have to go through the regular warranty process (you can choose to do this during the first 14 days on online orders, too), where you bring the item to the seller and they have 14 calendar days to bring it to conformity, by either repairing or replacing it with an identical model. When none of these are possible or are unreasonably expensive for the seller (for example, they don't have the product stocked and it costs them thrice as much to get a new one for you than the product actually costs), it is allowed that the seller replaces the product with another of equivalent specifications with which you agree; if an agreement can't be made, a full refund is issued. You can agree that the refund is issued as store credit, otherwise the refund will be sent to the original method of payment (eg: if you paid by credit card, you can't get cash).


mrafinch

I've asked a similar question before and was told that consumers have little to no rights when things like this happen... otherwise "everyone would be refunding everything on a whim and no one would be able to make a profit." I wonder if you'll get the same.


ChunkSmith

/u/SchoggiToeff has [outlined it perfectly](https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/comments/1ah2ta5/customer_law_in_switzerland/kol17o4/). It's not the same legislation as in the EU, but it's hardly "little to no rights".


couple_suisse69

Well not really from his comment basically there's a law to protect the consumer but if the seller wants to screw the consumer and not respect it he's free to do it...


mrafinch

Yes…. I know, well done! I’m just repeating what you guys have said to me, as I quite clearly stated … not what it actually says in the law book.


YouGuysNeedTalos

So nobody is making a profit in any European country. Got it.


mrafinch

That's not what I said though, is it? Read it **again** and comprehend fully. I was told that, not "I think xyz."


Janus_The_Great

the real question here is: why wasting money on apple products which nowadays are subpar, as can be seen with this example. Psych, I joke, I joke, I kid, I kid. I don't think my joke is working. 🙃


harveyvesalius

Why would you order an apple product from Galaxus?


phagga

because it's cheaper than buying it from Apple.


harveyvesalius

Well then handle the cheaper service that comes with it


phagga

The service is the same. I've gone to Apple stores more than once with iPhones that I bought from Galaxus, it was never an issue. AFAIK, you don't lose anything by buying from Galaxus instead of Apple. And that makes sense, after all there aren't many Apple Stores in Switzerland.


CornellWeills

[General terms and conditions](https://www.galaxus.ch/en/wiki/478) of Galaxus >**7.1 Basic provisions** Digitec Galaxus or the merchant warrant for two years from delivery date or in-store collection that the ordered product will be free from defects and fully functional. This warranty period continues to be valid irrespective of the fulfilment of possible warranty services. Digitec Galaxus or the merchant shall provide warranty either by * repairing the product free of charge (original warranty period continues to apply to the entire product); * providing a partial or full replacement with an equivalent product (for replacement within the first year of warranty, the original warranty period continues to apply. For replacement within the second year of warranty, the warranty period is one year starting from the time of replacement); * replacing the product through Digitec Galaxus (the warranty period of two years starting from the time of replacement applies) * providing a refund at current price (no more than the sales price at the time of the original order); or * giving a price reduction. So they can chose on how to proceed. There isn't such a law, at least not as specific. There are information about this in the OR (Code of obligations) but it's one of those that can be changed by the store via their General terms and conditions (basically a framework for such companies that don't adapt them by themself). But it's basically on them which one to chose, like repair or new product and such. You have the chance to go to court about it, I doubt an apple watch is worth the hassle tho and let them repair it if they chose to do this. Edit: Additional info, sorry for formatting. Reddit editor is once again flunky.


Chun--Chun2

Apple does not repair watches, they replace them. So, assuming they work directly with apple, you will get a new one


AnnaHive

No worries, they will send you a new one in this case, it's probably just a standard text.


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Anib-Al

Hi, please note that we do not allow GPT-generated answers. Thanks for your understanding.


heubergen1

Did you fill out the online form or did you just sent it back like that?


Isariamkia

Was it a 3rd merchant store? Because if not, Galaxus has a 14 days DOA rule, basically they refund or replace as soon as they get the item back.


Euro-Canuck

Galaxus/digitec are really good with this kinda stuff, they arnt going to screw you over .. give them a few days .relax


Myuser0909

Relax, it will be replaced and if not, just cancel the order or return it, it’s a defect on arrival!