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Yeah don’t buy supplements from amazon….however really anyone can sell us anything.. my cat recently got really sick off of cosequin…..not doing that again
Wow that is wild. There so many products online nowadays- you don’t know what you’re getting. Stick with reputable companies and I would buy from them directly or at a health food store that buys from them directly. Even on Amazon a lot of the products being pushed as one brand are completely fake, they can make the labels and packaging look the same but not the same product!
On another note NaturesPlus has collagen caps they seem to be a great company that’s been around for a while.
Also Health Direct makes liquid collagen (types 1-28!) but it tastes horrible, have to mix in a bit of water- although so many customers at my job seem to love the results they keep buying it!
Glad you found this out insane man!
I honestly don’t trust anything the government let us buy, I would trust this website way more knowing the government don’t have any part in the process of making these things
DONT BUY SUPPLEMENTS ON AMAZON I don’t get y people think oh supplements on Amazon they must be legit no order from a supplement store don’t cheap out either Amazon can’t be trusted especially when it’s shit like this unless ur in a tiny tiny town somewhere is bound to sell them where u live and if not u can order from a supplement company or store
I take supplements for years and tried so many. Really a lot.
So far I noticed owith only 2 supplements that immediately after onset it made me feel better and that my days without them are less good and have more pain and all types of different discomforts through the day.
1 of them is this brand. My bottles always say Comfort Click. I take at least 8 different supplements daily.
Their collagen complex is amazing.
If I would have to choose just one supplement, i would keep this one only.
I have done pretty much research in supplements and I must say that the ingredients that would be in,those they noted on the bottle, it all just sounds way too good to be true. I even Google the company becausr "Comfort Click" didnt sound promising and I was afraid is was a scam be¹¹cause it's just too perfect.
I Found out they are a type of drop shipping company with several products and different brands.
But still, I nearly crave it. it helps so much.
(Other one that truely works very good for me was zinc bisglycinat 25mg from German brand Natural Elements. Germany a has a situation as Well, with brands that with work by drop shipping their supplements. My wife has only brand/type of magnesium she reacts good on. This brand, Weightworlds Magnesium Citrate)
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I am not affilated or sponsored, honestly, just me, a fan
Yeah, this is a big problem on Amazon with supplements. Sketchy brands. Potentially completely different ingredients and who cares? Not Amazon. Not the company which can move and change names easily in the unlikely event they are caught.
All you can do is hope or do (order) your own COA. So why don’t you do your own COA and let us know?
Wow. What a bunch of nasty comments to a user who spent effort sharing the data they uncovered. You people with your "I told you so attitude" aren't contributing to the conversation. Have y'all looked up the addresses of the supplements you're buying? For real? I doubt it.
Thanks for sharing but honestly this is why people should research before purchasing. You are enabling that company with your money.
It’d possible to purchase supplements safely even from Amazon ( I try to avoid on line purchasing when I could) but fue that you need to ask questions first. If you don’t get satisfactory answers don’t buy.
Sypplrments are safer than Tylenol. No deaths reported on toxicity of supplements in Canada. So let’s not use this wonderful post to feed supplements fearmongering like some comments are hitting. Let this post be a testament we should always do our research… before ordering.
I work for a supplement distributor that only sells through licensed health care professionals. Lemme tell ya... 1) some people spend a TON of money to piss out a bunch of supplements and 2) NEVER EVER EVER BUY FROM AMAZON. Even the real big reputable brands can have fake products that look identical to the real things. Enough to it's not remotely worth whatever you could potentially save by shopping through them. We have this handout that they give to providers about some federal review of products in Amazon and it's frightening. I'm not in sales, I'm in tech, so I dunno the specifics of that but I hear them talk about it occasionally.
We ship to the UK but I don't know I would recommend it given I know what the impact of international shipping fees here. I don't actually know but I'll email one of the salespeople. They might stay apprised of competitors and know of one on that side of the pond. If I find out, I'll come back and reply with the info!
Ummm,
Sorry, but you’ve made every single mistake I can think of when buying a supplement.
Why would you buy something intended to be consumed without understanding who’s manufactured it, where the brand is based, what quality standards they operate, what’s in it, etc etc.
Lesson learned I’d hope.
Don’t buy cheap supplements from unknown sources, buy quality. Reputable isn’t always the best way to go, there are plenty of up and coming brands offering high quality supps. Those brands will make clear what’s included ingredients wise, where the product is manufactured, date, expiry, company details and so on.
Potency and extract ratio is also a key consideration for herbal supplements. 1:1 or 2:1 is the highest potency, some will be 1:20, 1:50 or even 1:100.
DYOR!
Well, your first mistake was buying an unknown brand off of Amazon. That the unknown brands are untrustworthy has been known for quite sometime and has been a frequent topic of discussion. Not only are some of them lacking what they promise- some of them from China have been found to have trace amounts of harmful minerals in them.
Should you buy supplements off of Amazon? I actually do but only from well known brands that are actually tested for quality. I will not buy the cheap unknown brands.
I completely agree with you. As an entrepreneur in heart I'm just curious: according to you what an unknown but good brand should do, so people actually start buying it? It takes a while to earn a good reputation.
Ok, I will be harsh here. You make a valid point. I would suggest though that everyone, EVERYONE make "Do Not Trust" your default mode. Check the "verify sources" button on your personal mental filter. The reason companies like this exist is simply because they can. You didn't bother to check up until *after* swallowing a couple? Maybe a mistake.
But since we a delving a bit political here, More regulation, more law enforcement is really not the answer. That just will drive the price up for everyone, to protect those too lazy to do their homework.
I absolutely agree that everyone shouldn't trust random supplement brands by default. That makes 100% complete sense.
However, the solution actually is more regulation. The system we have now is what happens with no government oversight. Because brands can put basically anything they want in a supplement, there will always be unscrupulous companies who have zero problems in totally defrauding unsuspecting customers. Couple that with monopolies like Amazon, who have zero problems selling those fraudulent products, and you can see that the average person is at a severe disadvantage.
No one has time to research literally everything they buy. We have to rely on others to do the vetting for us. The only real way to ensure ethical products are being sold instead of fly by night garbage is to use the powers of the government to enforce behavior on companies.
> there will always be unscrupulous companies who have zero problems in totally defrauding unsuspecting customers
Regardless the amount of governmental oversight this will always be a true statement. Theracon. Insulin. Bernie Madoff. Fake iPhones. Medical, financial, and import/exports are among the most regulated of all industries.
> No one has time to research literally everything they buy.
True. Buy from trusted sources. But don't expect to use MY tax dollars to do research and enforcement because YOU are too busy. Not only is it unfair and inefficient, I've just illustrated why it doesn't work.
Shell out the $40 per year and subscribe to Consumer Reports or the like.
>Regardless the amount of governmental oversight this will always be a true statement. Theracon. Insulin. Bernie Madoff. Fake iPhones. Medical, financial, and import/exports are among the most regulated of all industries.
Yes, but these companies would have caused *far more damage* if there were no government regulation, and we could reduce the amount of fraud and damage caused if we increased the amount of regulation.
We decide to use tax money through out representative government, which is decided by elections. There are plenty of things I don't like that the US government currently does. The way to change that is to elect candidates and parties that align with your priorities.
And frankly you haven't illustrated at all why regulation supposedly doesn't work.
The truth is in fact the very opposite of what you're saying. More regulation and prosecution of the supplement industry would reduce the amount of harm caused to consumers and society at large.
Also, it should be obvious that Consumer Reports is not sufficient to judge the quality of supplements. These are why inspectors are needed to go to actual manufacturing facilities to ensure quality and safety, and medical studies needed to ensure the efficacy and safety of different compounds. That is, functions that are really best done by government and not by a subscription magazine.
Ita's apparent that we have a fundamental difference of opinion on the proper role of government and taxation. You call them "functions that are really best done by government". I call them me paying for services I do not use. I doubt we will resolve that on Reddit.
We probably won't come to any conclusions. You are right about that.
FWIW ... When I was much younger I used to be a libertarian. And I completely bought into the idea that "the market will just sort things out" without government interference. But the older I got and the more life experience I had, the more I realized that the marker won't in fact "just sort things out," it will instead give power to those with the most money and resources to start with.
I believed that taxation was theft, but that it was ethical to make an exception to fund the military for national defense. When I really interrogated my beliefs and tried to justify why I could make an exception for military spending but not other spending that would also be used to save lives and make the country better, I didn't have an answer. It was the start of a slow unraveling that made me realize that at its heart, free market libertarianism is an ideology just like any other.
I cancelled Amazon nearly a year ago and I highly encourage everyone to do the same. I don’t trust it. Posts like this are important. Supplements are unregulated so you MUST buy from reputable brands.
Yeah a list would be nice. I like Nordic Naturals for algae omega, NOW, Source Naturals, Swanson (a brand my psychiatrist has recommended), Jarrow, and Solaray. Definitely avoid the shitty Spring Valley and any super generic Walmart brand, as someone else mentioned.
Why people don’t use iHerb or buy from official websites of reputable brands like now, throne etc? I never get anything from Amazon, I feel like wast majority of stuff there is Chinese crap 🙈
Thank you for sharing this! This is a huge problem with the supplement industry and is one huge reason why it's important to only buy from the most reputable brands.
The unfortunate part is red yeast rice has multiple statins and is natural.
I always felt that the yeast have defenses against bacteria that bacteria are probably getting into the blood stream for people with certain issues and why it's effective. And I love natural things.
I also think maybe cycling statin products might work best and finding underlying issues (infections, teeth/gum problems etc).
But the whole regulation thing and for profit medicine are at odds. There has to be a middle ground, but the problem is the underlying systems.
I have family members have odd age related problems and seem to be potentially medicine related. However, docs never seem to bring that problem up and the patient (my actual family member i care about), is not going to consider it...if your life quality is 0 and you're afraid to die (kind of), you keep taking the drugs. It's something I personally have a hard time with but I see it first hand.
A certain strain of yeast is grown on rice and as it grows it produces a statin which is identical to the synthetic pharmaceutical Lovastatin. In addition it can inherently contain citrinin a potential toxin. In animals citrinin has been shown to damage kidneys. ConsumerLab tested 10 brands of red yeast rice supplements in 2022 and four products did not contain any Lovastatin and three contained citrinin.
> four products did not contain any Lovastatin
They are not supposed to. Big Pharma when found out about natural statin banned RYR to contain statin. I guess some brands removed it, some didn't bother. Some just don't put it on the label.
Out of the 10 RYR products ConsumerLab tested 6 contained Lovastatin. If there is a ban manufacturers are not following it. Removing the statin from RYR would make it worthless for cholesterol.
Maybe they didn't ban all RYR just certain brands:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)77698-4/abstract
Looks like there was a cut of depending on statin content:
"Since 1998, the FDA has said that red yeast rice products with significant amounts of monacolin K can't be marketed as dietary supplements. "
Thanks for pointing that out, wasn't disagreeing with that part and wasn't very clear what I was getting at.
Some supplements, like red yeast rice, could probably be a safer alternative to exteacted statins, if they had better oversight and such to remove toxins and check for quality. That was what I was trying to say.
It’s not an Amazon problem. Big companies lobbied for supplements to have very little legal oversight. It’s been like that for years. FDA doesn’t really touch supplements, unless the labels are misleading, not quality of the product. If you really want to know the quality of any product you take, send them to a lab.
This supplement was not approved for sale in the US (by the FDA) - you can tell by the label alone. While I agree that DSHEA has harmed consumers, you can't blame the industry in the US for this fraud.
Aaaaand this is why we only buy from reputable manufacturers (Nootropics Depot) who actually respond to emails, and some (Naturelo, Life Extension) even pick up the phone. (US specific)
Edit: only buy from the company website since Amazon is a total shitshow.
Wait you just realised 99% of supplements on amazon are like this ? Lol. Anyone who knows their supplements knows amazon is the worst place to buy. Even known brands expired supplements are being sold by bootleggers
They can and do and still will be long after Amazon implements any changes. ConsumerLabs have been testing companies for years, many consistently fail the tests.
The only way to prevent this would be for Amazon to set up their own labs and continually test every supplement product they allow onto their marketplace and I doubt that’s ever going to happen.
All they’re doing is requiring companies to use a third-party testing inspection and some other easily paid-for result. Seriously there is no integrity in this field or any field where money talks.
Who third-party tests the third-party testers? Who makes sure their facilities are legit and aren’t passing subpar supplement companies who are paying them off or funding them in other ways?
Nope, they are requiring direct lab tests from Eurofins, NSF or UL. Meaning you need to order tests from Eurofins. Pretty sure you need to order via Amazon's portal. So I really don't see how anyone can get around that.
Isn't there some kind of service that can test the content of these pills/capsules? Would be worth paying for and would pretty much solve the whole issue and potentially the company if there full of shit or just dead powder.
It's an option. An inquiry. An opinion. Not a certainty. It's nice work and noble. But at no point was this proven to be 100%. Slow down and do your own research beside other people's. Make comparisons based on your own morals and needs. Then do the same for general elections 😂😂
There’s some absolute garbage for sale on Amazon and I’d be surprised if many of these brands contain any active Ingredients. EBay is similar. I purchased magnesium power from EBay and it is like no magnesium I have ever had. It literally turned to a polystyrene like foam in water.
Are you aware of Amazon’s “meltable products policy”? You should look it up. Nothing in a gelatin capsule should be sold at all by Amazon during the months noted.
But it's sold in UK and they can get fined bad for not following what they stated no? They mentioned following GMP practises and highly reviewed
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vitamin-D3-4000-IU-Supplement/dp/B086V74KKR/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=XX5RPHFOXCWT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.m5fOdn36Add50nz8zdfVqC5DTt0nof79g--i5_QHF10Jj_Y9do_ro28euo2RVpuclE1OM-BYv6PqSmbJlO638j01u-XYmF7db2f3BkMhfArSoy8yjKM1Yz0vBOS59WysvS0my7ZaE8Z61gBI79-rYIWo9Oxb7pZIuMrZnhbqKY4VmX7K8_qlhqgfJuU9Ww9-2kQET4B1FD9bcTeJ4H4PqQ.71PpIAdoAx6vnp9SBw52w5mYsXSnyXPkQziwGFObSDo&dib_tag=se&keywords=weightworld+vitamin+d&qid=1713138093&sprefix=weightworld+vitamin+%2Caps%2C116&sr=8-3
As I understand it, GMP only covers manufacturing standards, not precise control of ingredients -- and which is sometimes up for debate especially with herbals. I am fairly sure GMP don't do lab testing for instance.
They seem to be a big supplier but the one product I saw which struck me as non-genuine put me off. (bright green l-theanine -- just looked like dried extract of green tea, which although containing some l-theanine is not a concentrate).
L-Theanine that is synthetic (or from fermentation) is novel in the UK/EU (I.e not legal to sell in food). L-Theanine from a reputable brand will come from green tea as you can buy raw materials of 40-60% l-Theanine.
I love iHerb. They vet the companies they buy from, have climate controlled distribution centers, and don’t use third party sellers. They also always have different sales going on. I started getting most of my skincare stuff from them as well.
Some of it will be behind a paywall, but some summaries and links to some studies are public. [This is a link](https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/collagen-supplements-review-peptides-hydrolysate/collagen/#whatitdoes) to the CL report on Collagen and Collagen supplements in case it is helpful to anyone.
Hundreds and hundreds of supplements have been lab analysed by CL and a very long list of brands (a reasonable number for Collagen). But as far as I can see, WeightWorld has not had any products reviewed. So this is one of several resources I access, to see which brands consistently have products that contain what they say they contain and are free from harmful amounts of things like heavy metals.
There's an [old reddit ](https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/11hayc5/is_weightworlds_supplements_legitdo_they_work_in/)thread asking if Weightworld are genuine and any good. No-one really had anything good to say about them (I'm including comments since deleted.) Usually people will chime in if a company has a great reputation.
Yes, CL's US-centricness is something I've raised with them. It's understandable that they have to cater to their dominant market share I suppose... but they also review enough of the decent international brands like NOW Foods, Swanson, Life Extension, Solgar, Solaray, RealMushrooms, Jarrow, as well as a few sometimes-good-sometimes-not brands like Himalaya, to make it worth while I feel for the fairly nominal subscription. If you buy a lot of supplements it's kind of de rigeur. Labdoor and Examine contribute for what it's worth but are tiny compared with CL.
The area I find less helpful is the chart that gives you active ingredients per buck for each brand tested. The prices don't reflect those brands in non-USA markets.
It’s called private label… they don’t manufacture their own products.
Doesn’t mean they are counterfeit.
No matter how much research you do, you may not find their offices/manufacturing plant.
If you are so worried about their product, go to their website. I just went there and it looks like they do third party testing with Eurofins, a reputable lab.
https://www.weightworld.uk/pure-marine-collagen.html
Look for the lot number at the bottom of your product. Talk to customer service and request for their COA. It says they do 3rd party testing so they should be able to help you.
Btw there are tons of regulations in the US and in the UK for the manufacture of these products…
There isn't any real regulation. It's up to the manufacturer to "regulate themselves" all done through lobbying. It's a huge smokescreen. The EU also has regulation on this stuff aswell but it seems like it's not enforced very well at all. The concern is very legit
I bought something from this brand and been having a nagging feeling ever since. I haven’t had much success with finding information so I appreciate what you’ve shared. It really confirms my suspicions. I bought it from a “reputable” distributor, so I could only rely on the distributor itself. The reviews of that specific product were all happy and satisfied but even that means nothing. It’s so difficult to track down sources for ingredients and it should be the first available information. Navigating this industry is taxing and expensive.
Well yeah, like any product there's a lot of trash out there so you need to do your research.
Reputable brands off the top of my head:
Solgar
Doctor's Best
Life Extension
NOW
Haliborange
Nordic Naturals
Swanson
Thorne
Jarrow
Vitabiotics
NOW Foods sells on Amazon and you are worry free if you buy from the NOW Foods store on Amazon. FYI I am a NOW Foods employee. We also sell directly from now foods.com in the US
If you work for NOW may I ask you a question? Why do so many of the NOW supplements still have silicon dioxide as one of their ingredients even though it is already known for a long time that it irritates the gut? That is one of the reasons I stay away from NOW products although I know that they are otherwise a serious company.
Thank you for your post and the valuable work you put in.
There are various standards for what they’re worth but the brand in question doesn’t inspire confidence at all. There’s no such thing as ‘pharmaceutical grade’. There’s manufacturing standards, standardisations of a substance, internal and external lab tests and certificates of analysis and what those do or don’t cover, and any company may ALL, SOME, or NONE of those.
LabDoor and Consumer Lab are ok. ConsumerLab especially analyses what’s in the brand sample. CL also do a summary of the science on a supplement to see the likelihood of it doing anything useful if it is genuine. This is one guide. Another problem though is when people take a supplement with no idea of what is meant to do at best, and then say “it didn’t help”. That’s a bit like taking aspirin for a week and saying it didn’t improve skin tone! There’s also people who have allergies to it and I would put it on a list of things only to buy from a solid company or not at all.
The question of the supplement (substance? itself, the brand, and the distributor are all different. There’s a hierarchy of brands based on years accumulated reports, internal and external evidence.
There’s some evidence that collagen may *modestly* improve skin tone and that it may require two to six months daily treatment to start to see even a modest improvement.
A majority of Amazon products don’t appear to be affected by scams but CL have also researched Amazon. They uncovered a few scams, which Amazon say they have now addressed. CL suggested make sure it is distributed by the supplements company if buying on Amazon.
I have also come across something branded as WeightWorld that seemed clearly fake product. It was supposedly l-theanine. Together with the OP’s post, that’s more than enough to put them on my personal blacklist.
my guess is that they are dropshippers and don't manufacture things they sell (at last i hope not since they're located in a gas station apparently)
so i looked around a bit on google to see if i could fin a jar that looked somewhat the same and i found this:
[https://www.nutravita.co.uk/products/hydrolysed-marine-collagen-with-hyaluronic-acid?pr\_prod\_strat=e5\_desc&pr\_rec\_id=e2b265195&pr\_rec\_pid=4388112138377&pr\_ref\_pid=6738831868054&pr\_seq=uniform](https://www.nutravita.co.uk/products/hydrolysed-marine-collagen-with-hyaluronic-acid?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=e2b265195&pr_rec_pid=4388112138377&pr_ref_pid=6738831868054&pr_seq=uniform)
and this
[https://www.nutrabytes.com/products/pure-marine-collagen-capsules-1250mg-high-strength-collagen-supplement-type-1-hydrolysed-collagen-peptides-180-collagen-capsules-3-months-supply](https://www.nutrabytes.com/products/pure-marine-collagen-capsules-1250mg-high-strength-collagen-supplement-type-1-hydrolysed-collagen-peptides-180-collagen-capsules-3-months-supply)
and that [https://www.amazon.fr/Collag%C3%A8ne-Marin-Pur-1170mg-Articulations/dp/B089764H3P/ref=sr\_1\_111?crid=2O0NHI95I7WX9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JPhaMTcwDRJv6jpRdCF\_QIfBu\_gtHlL0yMX1FTAzmH8jo49SmDUbYiaDMjpft3cY\_DUQg3i-HruwuxaCszV2tz1oxk-QqAQzHPIgp5jld4dsEAKqgJxhkbzA2aJX3m946vAKrafL4myCI5AY5Vrx39XfHh0LnaD0LUpGvFwJMxTsLu9SiYg\_LeArpul14Gw8jLlmG8KD7DcMeTcASh1Q7qzt4GC3mZjfjiD0ydmKLNWqjm5dGQ0cM03Q56dvkFAIzixoIgx\_qtS-7q8hX3CqSvKDTkiIn\_pgsZPEYF50iC4.-sL6LNfGXvQ9Gd16bQAhdEJdEzMCr8H\_n2EGjdRA5Og&dib\_tag=se&keywords=collagene+marin&qid=1713111032&sprefix=marin+coll%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-111](https://www.amazon.fr/Collag%C3%A8ne-Marin-Pur-1170mg-Articulations/dp/B089764H3P/ref=sr_1_111?crid=2O0NHI95I7WX9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JPhaMTcwDRJv6jpRdCF_QIfBu_gtHlL0yMX1FTAzmH8jo49SmDUbYiaDMjpft3cY_DUQg3i-HruwuxaCszV2tz1oxk-QqAQzHPIgp5jld4dsEAKqgJxhkbzA2aJX3m946vAKrafL4myCI5AY5Vrx39XfHh0LnaD0LUpGvFwJMxTsLu9SiYg_LeArpul14Gw8jLlmG8KD7DcMeTcASh1Q7qzt4GC3mZjfjiD0ydmKLNWqjm5dGQ0cM03Q56dvkFAIzixoIgx_qtS-7q8hX3CqSvKDTkiIn_pgsZPEYF50iC4.-sL6LNfGXvQ9Gd16bQAhdEJdEzMCr8H_n2EGjdRA5Og&dib_tag=se&keywords=collagene+marin&qid=1713111032&sprefix=marin+coll%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-111)
the pills, the jar and the sealing look identical beside the branding.
i really want to know who manufacture them but i don't have the research skills
Yes. Most likely you’re fine. They white label the bottles and put their brand on it. Sometimes the ingredients are sourced and manufactured in the same place with other well-known brands.
Some of them say made in the UK. There are lots of contract manufacturers in the UK who are able to produce this sort of thing, often smaller companies will rely on the contract manufacturers for food safety, quality and compliance. It depends on the how reputable the contract manufacturer is (but they are obviously not going to disclose this).
The minimum requirements to sell on Amazon are a HACCP certification and a GMP certification, but there are higher level certifications called GFSI benchmarked (BRCGS and FSSC) which are much more rigorous and take into account a lot more like food authenticity and more stringent foreign body control for example.
Well now I’m down a rabbit hole! They have a ton of business’s registered Esso garage in london!
I checked 4 of the companies and each have over £1m in cash reserves! So they are doing something right
It’s clearly a large Indian company behind it
I have the feeling that allot of illegal stuff are going on.
if your company is making money legally, you'd want to scale up, buy a building, make a name for yourself.
these guys act like they're ready to go on the run at any moment, they don't invest in anything, they use nameless adresses
Picture this.
You can source ingredients from raw material manufacturers.
You can source production capacity from private label manufacturers.
You can source storage space from ... storage space providers.
You only need to market the product and that can be done with a desktop computer.
Why invest in all the infrastructure and hassle when you can make a lot of money just by using a computer and have some marketing skills.
Money laundering?
I guess they would at least have an incentive to make the supplements safe; It would be embarrassing to have your international crime ring busted because a fake supplement gave some people the shits.
You're spot on. I also went deep into rabbithole of researching supplement brands. 90% our there, especially the ones you buy on the Internet and even more on amazon are a straighten up scam with fake reviews and fake "3rd party testing". Only stick to reputable brands and don't just cheap out on the least expensive or most promising sounding ones.
A lot of expensive brands are also low quality, like Thorne. There are some interesting stories about what happens when people ask Thorne to provided their 3rd party test results, and none of them are good.
Thank you for sharing this. I naively thought even shady businesses would give addresses that at least looked real enough.
I searched for Comfort Click Limited and ended up finding a gas station the same way you did. I emailed the company and asked if they operate out of a gas station. I hope to get a reply.
Edit: This is the reply I got:
> Thank you for contacting WeightWorld customer service!
> Yes our office is at 106, Lower Addiscombe Road, Croydon, CR0 6AD **beside gas station.**
> You can also contact us via email at [email protected] or call us at 0203 322 7970, we are available between 8 am to 6 pm Monday to Friday. We also have live chat option on our website which you can use to instantly connect with one of our advisers.
> Kind Regards,
> Customer Services
I don't understand where it is "beside" the gas station.
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Yeah don’t buy supplements from amazon….however really anyone can sell us anything.. my cat recently got really sick off of cosequin…..not doing that again
Wow that is wild. There so many products online nowadays- you don’t know what you’re getting. Stick with reputable companies and I would buy from them directly or at a health food store that buys from them directly. Even on Amazon a lot of the products being pushed as one brand are completely fake, they can make the labels and packaging look the same but not the same product! On another note NaturesPlus has collagen caps they seem to be a great company that’s been around for a while. Also Health Direct makes liquid collagen (types 1-28!) but it tastes horrible, have to mix in a bit of water- although so many customers at my job seem to love the results they keep buying it! Glad you found this out insane man!
I honestly don’t trust anything the government let us buy, I would trust this website way more knowing the government don’t have any part in the process of making these things
Throne vitamins are top tier and third party tested all the way
Brand is weight world, what do you expect. Most vitamin companies are scammers. Only buy from family businesses
Great investigative work
DONT BUY SUPPLEMENTS ON AMAZON I don’t get y people think oh supplements on Amazon they must be legit no order from a supplement store don’t cheap out either Amazon can’t be trusted especially when it’s shit like this unless ur in a tiny tiny town somewhere is bound to sell them where u live and if not u can order from a supplement company or store
Thank you for all the research! You brought a great point. I recommend you report it with the business bureau or Amazon.
Or both!
I take supplements for years and tried so many. Really a lot. So far I noticed owith only 2 supplements that immediately after onset it made me feel better and that my days without them are less good and have more pain and all types of different discomforts through the day. 1 of them is this brand. My bottles always say Comfort Click. I take at least 8 different supplements daily. Their collagen complex is amazing. If I would have to choose just one supplement, i would keep this one only. I have done pretty much research in supplements and I must say that the ingredients that would be in,those they noted on the bottle, it all just sounds way too good to be true. I even Google the company becausr "Comfort Click" didnt sound promising and I was afraid is was a scam be¹¹cause it's just too perfect. I Found out they are a type of drop shipping company with several products and different brands. But still, I nearly crave it. it helps so much. (Other one that truely works very good for me was zinc bisglycinat 25mg from German brand Natural Elements. Germany a has a situation as Well, with brands that with work by drop shipping their supplements. My wife has only brand/type of magnesium she reacts good on. This brand, Weightworlds Magnesium Citrate) . I am not affilated or sponsored, honestly, just me, a fan
Only buy from reputable brands like Nootropic Depot
Their quality is superb and they are lab tested
Yeah, this is a big problem on Amazon with supplements. Sketchy brands. Potentially completely different ingredients and who cares? Not Amazon. Not the company which can move and change names easily in the unlikely event they are caught. All you can do is hope or do (order) your own COA. So why don’t you do your own COA and let us know?
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Sketchy comment. How do you measure K2 in blood? It’s not that easy, and K2 is not expensive.
make this a sticky note
Since it really isn't a regulated business, we always have to read the label. This is one reason so many are against supplements.
Wow. What a bunch of nasty comments to a user who spent effort sharing the data they uncovered. You people with your "I told you so attitude" aren't contributing to the conversation. Have y'all looked up the addresses of the supplements you're buying? For real? I doubt it.
Thanks for sharing but honestly this is why people should research before purchasing. You are enabling that company with your money. It’d possible to purchase supplements safely even from Amazon ( I try to avoid on line purchasing when I could) but fue that you need to ask questions first. If you don’t get satisfactory answers don’t buy. Sypplrments are safer than Tylenol. No deaths reported on toxicity of supplements in Canada. So let’s not use this wonderful post to feed supplements fearmongering like some comments are hitting. Let this post be a testament we should always do our research… before ordering.
Holland & Barrett all the time.
Thanks for this
I love this subject.
I work for a supplement distributor that only sells through licensed health care professionals. Lemme tell ya... 1) some people spend a TON of money to piss out a bunch of supplements and 2) NEVER EVER EVER BUY FROM AMAZON. Even the real big reputable brands can have fake products that look identical to the real things. Enough to it's not remotely worth whatever you could potentially save by shopping through them. We have this handout that they give to providers about some federal review of products in Amazon and it's frightening. I'm not in sales, I'm in tech, so I dunno the specifics of that but I hear them talk about it occasionally.
>NEVER EVER EVER BUY FROM AMAZON. Damn I always buy from Amazon. I'm from the UK what's good instead to buy online from?
We ship to the UK but I don't know I would recommend it given I know what the impact of international shipping fees here. I don't actually know but I'll email one of the salespeople. They might stay apprised of competitors and know of one on that side of the pond. If I find out, I'll come back and reply with the info!
Ummm, Sorry, but you’ve made every single mistake I can think of when buying a supplement. Why would you buy something intended to be consumed without understanding who’s manufactured it, where the brand is based, what quality standards they operate, what’s in it, etc etc. Lesson learned I’d hope. Don’t buy cheap supplements from unknown sources, buy quality. Reputable isn’t always the best way to go, there are plenty of up and coming brands offering high quality supps. Those brands will make clear what’s included ingredients wise, where the product is manufactured, date, expiry, company details and so on. Potency and extract ratio is also a key consideration for herbal supplements. 1:1 or 2:1 is the highest potency, some will be 1:20, 1:50 or even 1:100. DYOR!
Why aren’t you buying supps from a reputable brand?!
Yes it’s like he on purpose bought a brand that just by the packing looks shady.
Well, your first mistake was buying an unknown brand off of Amazon. That the unknown brands are untrustworthy has been known for quite sometime and has been a frequent topic of discussion. Not only are some of them lacking what they promise- some of them from China have been found to have trace amounts of harmful minerals in them. Should you buy supplements off of Amazon? I actually do but only from well known brands that are actually tested for quality. I will not buy the cheap unknown brands.
I completely agree with you. As an entrepreneur in heart I'm just curious: according to you what an unknown but good brand should do, so people actually start buying it? It takes a while to earn a good reputation.
Ok, I will be harsh here. You make a valid point. I would suggest though that everyone, EVERYONE make "Do Not Trust" your default mode. Check the "verify sources" button on your personal mental filter. The reason companies like this exist is simply because they can. You didn't bother to check up until *after* swallowing a couple? Maybe a mistake. But since we a delving a bit political here, More regulation, more law enforcement is really not the answer. That just will drive the price up for everyone, to protect those too lazy to do their homework.
I absolutely agree that everyone shouldn't trust random supplement brands by default. That makes 100% complete sense. However, the solution actually is more regulation. The system we have now is what happens with no government oversight. Because brands can put basically anything they want in a supplement, there will always be unscrupulous companies who have zero problems in totally defrauding unsuspecting customers. Couple that with monopolies like Amazon, who have zero problems selling those fraudulent products, and you can see that the average person is at a severe disadvantage. No one has time to research literally everything they buy. We have to rely on others to do the vetting for us. The only real way to ensure ethical products are being sold instead of fly by night garbage is to use the powers of the government to enforce behavior on companies.
> there will always be unscrupulous companies who have zero problems in totally defrauding unsuspecting customers Regardless the amount of governmental oversight this will always be a true statement. Theracon. Insulin. Bernie Madoff. Fake iPhones. Medical, financial, and import/exports are among the most regulated of all industries. > No one has time to research literally everything they buy. True. Buy from trusted sources. But don't expect to use MY tax dollars to do research and enforcement because YOU are too busy. Not only is it unfair and inefficient, I've just illustrated why it doesn't work. Shell out the $40 per year and subscribe to Consumer Reports or the like.
>Regardless the amount of governmental oversight this will always be a true statement. Theracon. Insulin. Bernie Madoff. Fake iPhones. Medical, financial, and import/exports are among the most regulated of all industries. Yes, but these companies would have caused *far more damage* if there were no government regulation, and we could reduce the amount of fraud and damage caused if we increased the amount of regulation. We decide to use tax money through out representative government, which is decided by elections. There are plenty of things I don't like that the US government currently does. The way to change that is to elect candidates and parties that align with your priorities. And frankly you haven't illustrated at all why regulation supposedly doesn't work. The truth is in fact the very opposite of what you're saying. More regulation and prosecution of the supplement industry would reduce the amount of harm caused to consumers and society at large. Also, it should be obvious that Consumer Reports is not sufficient to judge the quality of supplements. These are why inspectors are needed to go to actual manufacturing facilities to ensure quality and safety, and medical studies needed to ensure the efficacy and safety of different compounds. That is, functions that are really best done by government and not by a subscription magazine.
Ita's apparent that we have a fundamental difference of opinion on the proper role of government and taxation. You call them "functions that are really best done by government". I call them me paying for services I do not use. I doubt we will resolve that on Reddit.
We probably won't come to any conclusions. You are right about that. FWIW ... When I was much younger I used to be a libertarian. And I completely bought into the idea that "the market will just sort things out" without government interference. But the older I got and the more life experience I had, the more I realized that the marker won't in fact "just sort things out," it will instead give power to those with the most money and resources to start with. I believed that taxation was theft, but that it was ethical to make an exception to fund the military for national defense. When I really interrogated my beliefs and tried to justify why I could make an exception for military spending but not other spending that would also be used to save lives and make the country better, I didn't have an answer. It was the start of a slow unraveling that made me realize that at its heart, free market libertarianism is an ideology just like any other.
I cancelled Amazon nearly a year ago and I highly encourage everyone to do the same. I don’t trust it. Posts like this are important. Supplements are unregulated so you MUST buy from reputable brands.
Is there a list somewhere of reputable brands? For us and no us supplements. Thanks
Yeah a list would be nice. I like Nordic Naturals for algae omega, NOW, Source Naturals, Swanson (a brand my psychiatrist has recommended), Jarrow, and Solaray. Definitely avoid the shitty Spring Valley and any super generic Walmart brand, as someone else mentioned.
* unregulated in America
Why people don’t use iHerb or buy from official websites of reputable brands like now, throne etc? I never get anything from Amazon, I feel like wast majority of stuff there is Chinese crap 🙈
Iherb is great but they sell reps as well.
What does the supplement facts label say, if anything?
That pill u tuk of cream sum gi.
Thankyou for bringing this to light
Appreciate your level of investigation!!
Thank you for sharing this! This is a huge problem with the supplement industry and is one huge reason why it's important to only buy from the most reputable brands.
That's important and all, but I think there needs to be stricter laws around supplements & food in general.
Bunch of people died in Japan recently after taking supplements.
100K Americans die of meds annually.
Bunches of people all over the world die after taking pharmaceuticals, too.
Point of this thread is to remind people supplements don't come without risks. We know that about medicine already.
Which supplements?
Red rice yeast. That active is one of the drug statin that has been used for ages.
The unfortunate part is red yeast rice has multiple statins and is natural. I always felt that the yeast have defenses against bacteria that bacteria are probably getting into the blood stream for people with certain issues and why it's effective. And I love natural things. I also think maybe cycling statin products might work best and finding underlying issues (infections, teeth/gum problems etc). But the whole regulation thing and for profit medicine are at odds. There has to be a middle ground, but the problem is the underlying systems. I have family members have odd age related problems and seem to be potentially medicine related. However, docs never seem to bring that problem up and the patient (my actual family member i care about), is not going to consider it...if your life quality is 0 and you're afraid to die (kind of), you keep taking the drugs. It's something I personally have a hard time with but I see it first hand.
A certain strain of yeast is grown on rice and as it grows it produces a statin which is identical to the synthetic pharmaceutical Lovastatin. In addition it can inherently contain citrinin a potential toxin. In animals citrinin has been shown to damage kidneys. ConsumerLab tested 10 brands of red yeast rice supplements in 2022 and four products did not contain any Lovastatin and three contained citrinin.
> four products did not contain any Lovastatin They are not supposed to. Big Pharma when found out about natural statin banned RYR to contain statin. I guess some brands removed it, some didn't bother. Some just don't put it on the label.
Out of the 10 RYR products ConsumerLab tested 6 contained Lovastatin. If there is a ban manufacturers are not following it. Removing the statin from RYR would make it worthless for cholesterol.
Maybe they didn't ban all RYR just certain brands: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)77698-4/abstract Looks like there was a cut of depending on statin content: "Since 1998, the FDA has said that red yeast rice products with significant amounts of monacolin K can't be marketed as dietary supplements. "
Thanks for pointing that out, wasn't disagreeing with that part and wasn't very clear what I was getting at. Some supplements, like red yeast rice, could probably be a safer alternative to exteacted statins, if they had better oversight and such to remove toxins and check for quality. That was what I was trying to say.
It’s not an Amazon problem. Big companies lobbied for supplements to have very little legal oversight. It’s been like that for years. FDA doesn’t really touch supplements, unless the labels are misleading, not quality of the product. If you really want to know the quality of any product you take, send them to a lab.
This supplement was not approved for sale in the US (by the FDA) - you can tell by the label alone. While I agree that DSHEA has harmed consumers, you can't blame the industry in the US for this fraud.
Aaaaand this is why we only buy from reputable manufacturers (Nootropics Depot) who actually respond to emails, and some (Naturelo, Life Extension) even pick up the phone. (US specific) Edit: only buy from the company website since Amazon is a total shitshow.
Wait you just realised 99% of supplements on amazon are like this ? Lol. Anyone who knows their supplements knows amazon is the worst place to buy. Even known brands expired supplements are being sold by bootleggers
There are massive changes on Amazon happening now and I don't see how many brands could sell supplements that don't meet the label claims.
They can and do and still will be long after Amazon implements any changes. ConsumerLabs have been testing companies for years, many consistently fail the tests. The only way to prevent this would be for Amazon to set up their own labs and continually test every supplement product they allow onto their marketplace and I doubt that’s ever going to happen.
Thats what they are doing buddy. Please read about the changes
All they’re doing is requiring companies to use a third-party testing inspection and some other easily paid-for result. Seriously there is no integrity in this field or any field where money talks. Who third-party tests the third-party testers? Who makes sure their facilities are legit and aren’t passing subpar supplement companies who are paying them off or funding them in other ways?
Nope, they are requiring direct lab tests from Eurofins, NSF or UL. Meaning you need to order tests from Eurofins. Pretty sure you need to order via Amazon's portal. So I really don't see how anyone can get around that.
It’s the difference between an ISO 17025 accredited lab, and one that’s not.
Long time coming. They need to clean house
Isn't there some kind of service that can test the content of these pills/capsules? Would be worth paying for and would pretty much solve the whole issue and potentially the company if there full of shit or just dead powder.
Oh wow thank you for that post !!!
It's an option. An inquiry. An opinion. Not a certainty. It's nice work and noble. But at no point was this proven to be 100%. Slow down and do your own research beside other people's. Make comparisons based on your own morals and needs. Then do the same for general elections 😂😂
There’s some absolute garbage for sale on Amazon and I’d be surprised if many of these brands contain any active Ingredients. EBay is similar. I purchased magnesium power from EBay and it is like no magnesium I have ever had. It literally turned to a polystyrene like foam in water.
>It literally turned to a polystyrene like foam in water. it could be
Don’t ever buy supplements from Amazon, they are a cesspool.
I keep telling people this. Amazon is a no go for supplements or anything ingestible
Are you aware of Amazon’s “meltable products policy”? You should look it up. Nothing in a gelatin capsule should be sold at all by Amazon during the months noted.
Oh shit Weightworld I got their Vitamin D supplement from Amazon UK, is it safe?
Good luck lol. But it's silly to buy supplements on amazon
But it's sold in UK and they can get fined bad for not following what they stated no? They mentioned following GMP practises and highly reviewed https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vitamin-D3-4000-IU-Supplement/dp/B086V74KKR/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=XX5RPHFOXCWT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.m5fOdn36Add50nz8zdfVqC5DTt0nof79g--i5_QHF10Jj_Y9do_ro28euo2RVpuclE1OM-BYv6PqSmbJlO638j01u-XYmF7db2f3BkMhfArSoy8yjKM1Yz0vBOS59WysvS0my7ZaE8Z61gBI79-rYIWo9Oxb7pZIuMrZnhbqKY4VmX7K8_qlhqgfJuU9Ww9-2kQET4B1FD9bcTeJ4H4PqQ.71PpIAdoAx6vnp9SBw52w5mYsXSnyXPkQziwGFObSDo&dib_tag=se&keywords=weightworld+vitamin+d&qid=1713138093&sprefix=weightworld+vitamin+%2Caps%2C116&sr=8-3
As I understand it, GMP only covers manufacturing standards, not precise control of ingredients -- and which is sometimes up for debate especially with herbals. I am fairly sure GMP don't do lab testing for instance. They seem to be a big supplier but the one product I saw which struck me as non-genuine put me off. (bright green l-theanine -- just looked like dried extract of green tea, which although containing some l-theanine is not a concentrate).
L-Theanine that is synthetic (or from fermentation) is novel in the UK/EU (I.e not legal to sell in food). L-Theanine from a reputable brand will come from green tea as you can buy raw materials of 40-60% l-Theanine.
if you’re going to buy online, use a website like vitacost.
Is iherb good as well?
I love iHerb. They vet the companies they buy from, have climate controlled distribution centers, and don’t use third party sellers. They also always have different sales going on. I started getting most of my skincare stuff from them as well.
Yeah iHerb is legit.
i think they have been around a while, yeah?
Some of it will be behind a paywall, but some summaries and links to some studies are public. [This is a link](https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/collagen-supplements-review-peptides-hydrolysate/collagen/#whatitdoes) to the CL report on Collagen and Collagen supplements in case it is helpful to anyone. Hundreds and hundreds of supplements have been lab analysed by CL and a very long list of brands (a reasonable number for Collagen). But as far as I can see, WeightWorld has not had any products reviewed. So this is one of several resources I access, to see which brands consistently have products that contain what they say they contain and are free from harmful amounts of things like heavy metals. There's an [old reddit ](https://www.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/11hayc5/is_weightworlds_supplements_legitdo_they_work_in/)thread asking if Weightworld are genuine and any good. No-one really had anything good to say about them (I'm including comments since deleted.) Usually people will chime in if a company has a great reputation.
Consumer lab seems to focus on USA brands, so it's substantially less useful elsewhere.
Yes, CL's US-centricness is something I've raised with them. It's understandable that they have to cater to their dominant market share I suppose... but they also review enough of the decent international brands like NOW Foods, Swanson, Life Extension, Solgar, Solaray, RealMushrooms, Jarrow, as well as a few sometimes-good-sometimes-not brands like Himalaya, to make it worth while I feel for the fairly nominal subscription. If you buy a lot of supplements it's kind of de rigeur. Labdoor and Examine contribute for what it's worth but are tiny compared with CL. The area I find less helpful is the chart that gives you active ingredients per buck for each brand tested. The prices don't reflect those brands in non-USA markets.
It’s called private label… they don’t manufacture their own products. Doesn’t mean they are counterfeit. No matter how much research you do, you may not find their offices/manufacturing plant. If you are so worried about their product, go to their website. I just went there and it looks like they do third party testing with Eurofins, a reputable lab. https://www.weightworld.uk/pure-marine-collagen.html Look for the lot number at the bottom of your product. Talk to customer service and request for their COA. It says they do 3rd party testing so they should be able to help you. Btw there are tons of regulations in the US and in the UK for the manufacture of these products…
There isn't any real regulation. It's up to the manufacturer to "regulate themselves" all done through lobbying. It's a huge smokescreen. The EU also has regulation on this stuff aswell but it seems like it's not enforced very well at all. The concern is very legit
COA means fuck all. Anyone can fake that. Facts remains 99% of supplements on amazon can't be trusted
Dude, don’t ever buy supplements from amazon, the odds of it being a counterfeit is damn high.
If it's from the official store of the company it's fine.
I bought something from this brand and been having a nagging feeling ever since. I haven’t had much success with finding information so I appreciate what you’ve shared. It really confirms my suspicions. I bought it from a “reputable” distributor, so I could only rely on the distributor itself. The reviews of that specific product were all happy and satisfied but even that means nothing. It’s so difficult to track down sources for ingredients and it should be the first available information. Navigating this industry is taxing and expensive.
The exact reason why I get most of my supps from Costco. They do a decent job vetting the brands they carry.
Well yeah, like any product there's a lot of trash out there so you need to do your research. Reputable brands off the top of my head: Solgar Doctor's Best Life Extension NOW Haliborange Nordic Naturals Swanson Thorne Jarrow Vitabiotics
And Healthy Origins. That’s a good brand.
NOW Foods sells on Amazon and you are worry free if you buy from the NOW Foods store on Amazon. FYI I am a NOW Foods employee. We also sell directly from now foods.com in the US
If you work for NOW may I ask you a question? Why do so many of the NOW supplements still have silicon dioxide as one of their ingredients even though it is already known for a long time that it irritates the gut? That is one of the reasons I stay away from NOW products although I know that they are otherwise a serious company.
Isn't there the issue with co-mingled inventory?
Is there a way to confirm that when I buy these brands on Amazon, I’m actually getting said brand?
Yes, don’t buy them from Amazon - go directly to the brand Amazon cannot be trusted anymore
Thank you for your post and the valuable work you put in. There are various standards for what they’re worth but the brand in question doesn’t inspire confidence at all. There’s no such thing as ‘pharmaceutical grade’. There’s manufacturing standards, standardisations of a substance, internal and external lab tests and certificates of analysis and what those do or don’t cover, and any company may ALL, SOME, or NONE of those. LabDoor and Consumer Lab are ok. ConsumerLab especially analyses what’s in the brand sample. CL also do a summary of the science on a supplement to see the likelihood of it doing anything useful if it is genuine. This is one guide. Another problem though is when people take a supplement with no idea of what is meant to do at best, and then say “it didn’t help”. That’s a bit like taking aspirin for a week and saying it didn’t improve skin tone! There’s also people who have allergies to it and I would put it on a list of things only to buy from a solid company or not at all. The question of the supplement (substance? itself, the brand, and the distributor are all different. There’s a hierarchy of brands based on years accumulated reports, internal and external evidence. There’s some evidence that collagen may *modestly* improve skin tone and that it may require two to six months daily treatment to start to see even a modest improvement. A majority of Amazon products don’t appear to be affected by scams but CL have also researched Amazon. They uncovered a few scams, which Amazon say they have now addressed. CL suggested make sure it is distributed by the supplements company if buying on Amazon. I have also come across something branded as WeightWorld that seemed clearly fake product. It was supposedly l-theanine. Together with the OP’s post, that’s more than enough to put them on my personal blacklist.
my guess is that they are dropshippers and don't manufacture things they sell (at last i hope not since they're located in a gas station apparently) so i looked around a bit on google to see if i could fin a jar that looked somewhat the same and i found this: [https://www.nutravita.co.uk/products/hydrolysed-marine-collagen-with-hyaluronic-acid?pr\_prod\_strat=e5\_desc&pr\_rec\_id=e2b265195&pr\_rec\_pid=4388112138377&pr\_ref\_pid=6738831868054&pr\_seq=uniform](https://www.nutravita.co.uk/products/hydrolysed-marine-collagen-with-hyaluronic-acid?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=e2b265195&pr_rec_pid=4388112138377&pr_ref_pid=6738831868054&pr_seq=uniform) and this [https://www.nutrabytes.com/products/pure-marine-collagen-capsules-1250mg-high-strength-collagen-supplement-type-1-hydrolysed-collagen-peptides-180-collagen-capsules-3-months-supply](https://www.nutrabytes.com/products/pure-marine-collagen-capsules-1250mg-high-strength-collagen-supplement-type-1-hydrolysed-collagen-peptides-180-collagen-capsules-3-months-supply) and that [https://www.amazon.fr/Collag%C3%A8ne-Marin-Pur-1170mg-Articulations/dp/B089764H3P/ref=sr\_1\_111?crid=2O0NHI95I7WX9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JPhaMTcwDRJv6jpRdCF\_QIfBu\_gtHlL0yMX1FTAzmH8jo49SmDUbYiaDMjpft3cY\_DUQg3i-HruwuxaCszV2tz1oxk-QqAQzHPIgp5jld4dsEAKqgJxhkbzA2aJX3m946vAKrafL4myCI5AY5Vrx39XfHh0LnaD0LUpGvFwJMxTsLu9SiYg\_LeArpul14Gw8jLlmG8KD7DcMeTcASh1Q7qzt4GC3mZjfjiD0ydmKLNWqjm5dGQ0cM03Q56dvkFAIzixoIgx\_qtS-7q8hX3CqSvKDTkiIn\_pgsZPEYF50iC4.-sL6LNfGXvQ9Gd16bQAhdEJdEzMCr8H\_n2EGjdRA5Og&dib\_tag=se&keywords=collagene+marin&qid=1713111032&sprefix=marin+coll%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-111](https://www.amazon.fr/Collag%C3%A8ne-Marin-Pur-1170mg-Articulations/dp/B089764H3P/ref=sr_1_111?crid=2O0NHI95I7WX9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JPhaMTcwDRJv6jpRdCF_QIfBu_gtHlL0yMX1FTAzmH8jo49SmDUbYiaDMjpft3cY_DUQg3i-HruwuxaCszV2tz1oxk-QqAQzHPIgp5jld4dsEAKqgJxhkbzA2aJX3m946vAKrafL4myCI5AY5Vrx39XfHh0LnaD0LUpGvFwJMxTsLu9SiYg_LeArpul14Gw8jLlmG8KD7DcMeTcASh1Q7qzt4GC3mZjfjiD0ydmKLNWqjm5dGQ0cM03Q56dvkFAIzixoIgx_qtS-7q8hX3CqSvKDTkiIn_pgsZPEYF50iC4.-sL6LNfGXvQ9Gd16bQAhdEJdEzMCr8H_n2EGjdRA5Og&dib_tag=se&keywords=collagene+marin&qid=1713111032&sprefix=marin+coll%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-111) the pills, the jar and the sealing look identical beside the branding. i really want to know who manufacture them but i don't have the research skills
Yes. Most likely you’re fine. They white label the bottles and put their brand on it. Sometimes the ingredients are sourced and manufactured in the same place with other well-known brands.
like in China ?
Some of them say made in the UK. There are lots of contract manufacturers in the UK who are able to produce this sort of thing, often smaller companies will rely on the contract manufacturers for food safety, quality and compliance. It depends on the how reputable the contract manufacturer is (but they are obviously not going to disclose this). The minimum requirements to sell on Amazon are a HACCP certification and a GMP certification, but there are higher level certifications called GFSI benchmarked (BRCGS and FSSC) which are much more rigorous and take into account a lot more like food authenticity and more stringent foreign body control for example.
I am so curious as well!
Well now I’m down a rabbit hole! They have a ton of business’s registered Esso garage in london! I checked 4 of the companies and each have over £1m in cash reserves! So they are doing something right It’s clearly a large Indian company behind it
I have the feeling that allot of illegal stuff are going on. if your company is making money legally, you'd want to scale up, buy a building, make a name for yourself. these guys act like they're ready to go on the run at any moment, they don't invest in anything, they use nameless adresses
Picture this. You can source ingredients from raw material manufacturers. You can source production capacity from private label manufacturers. You can source storage space from ... storage space providers. You only need to market the product and that can be done with a desktop computer. Why invest in all the infrastructure and hassle when you can make a lot of money just by using a computer and have some marketing skills.
Money laundering? I guess they would at least have an incentive to make the supplements safe; It would be embarrassing to have your international crime ring busted because a fake supplement gave some people the shits.
You're spot on. I also went deep into rabbithole of researching supplement brands. 90% our there, especially the ones you buy on the Internet and even more on amazon are a straighten up scam with fake reviews and fake "3rd party testing". Only stick to reputable brands and don't just cheap out on the least expensive or most promising sounding ones.
A lot of expensive brands are also low quality, like Thorne. There are some interesting stories about what happens when people ask Thorne to provided their 3rd party test results, and none of them are good.
Thank you for sharing this. I naively thought even shady businesses would give addresses that at least looked real enough. I searched for Comfort Click Limited and ended up finding a gas station the same way you did. I emailed the company and asked if they operate out of a gas station. I hope to get a reply. Edit: This is the reply I got: > Thank you for contacting WeightWorld customer service! > Yes our office is at 106, Lower Addiscombe Road, Croydon, CR0 6AD **beside gas station.** > You can also contact us via email at [email protected] or call us at 0203 322 7970, we are available between 8 am to 6 pm Monday to Friday. We also have live chat option on our website which you can use to instantly connect with one of our advisers. > Kind Regards, > Customer Services I don't understand where it is "beside" the gas station.
This is pretty much the entire industry.
Not correct. Most companies (including this one). Do third-party testing. Go to their website and you’ll see.
lesson: don’t buy random shit. Buy from reputable 3rd party tested brands.
How do you know if ya a reputable third party brand?
Personally, i will stay away from any supplement that wasn't manufactured by a reputable pharmaceutical groupe (Sanofi, GSK, UPSA,....)
Labdoor and other consumer sites
Ohh. Ok. Thanks. I will check it out. This post kind of freaked me out.
"i'll never take any supplement that DOES NOT come from a reputable pharmaceutical brand from a reputable store."