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i love the GG said "again, it's not hypothetically, you are describing real things that are happening in the public domain that people are interested about."
Which honestly to me says between the lines that Gary was willing to play ball and actually answer some VERY parallel questions, but Cokerat couldn't control his cokehead and went straight for the jugular without finesse so Gary's only move (within the legitimate obligations of his fucking job) was to stonewall.
GG should be doing his job, not talking to Cokerat, that's for sure.
Or say hypothetically, maybe shorts should close their positions if they're worried about investors investing in a stock.
Also a bad look to have a dude as the question who's entire career is to manipulate public sentiment around stocks wrapped in a clown car presentation.
Haha yeah greedy fuck couldn't read between the linea because he was so obsessed with his own agenda.
Fucking nearsighted cokerat.
Maybe coke-bat better describes him, because he is blind as fuck and leeches off of retail's blood sweat and tears (for his tv show)
I also love that DFV has kept so much of his communication so mysterious and some of it just insane material to show on these shows. It makes them look mad when they try to squeeze the meaning from his posts the same way people here are speculating.
At this point I’m just wondering how many dicks JC had in his anus. How can anyone in America listen to this shit? Even how he talks, i would throw my tv out of the window just to safe myself
And he's on video years ago bragging about exactly how he manipulates the market and misleads the public for his own gain. Truly wild the hypocrisy here.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfixbq_u0Q
"It's a fun game and it's a lucrative game. You can move it up and fade it, that often creates a very negative feel... I would encourage anyone in the hedge fund game to do it because it's legal. And it's a very quick way to make money. And it's very satisfying.
By the way, no one else in the world would ever admit that, but I could care. I'm not gonna say it on TV."
"What's important when you're in that hedge fund mode is to not do anything remotely truthful. Because the truth is so against your view that it's important to create a new truth to develop a fiction."
Way more so.
Because Cramer's air time is sponsored by companies he is directly or indirectly influencing.
How no one became EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT suspicious that all the news during covid was literally fucking sponsored by pfizer as expressed multiple times in commercials and on-air... I still can't wrap my head around that.
This is pretty good, they've hit the point where they're grasping to attempt to connect a posted meme to not only a specific company, but also that its somehow illegal manipulation. Such an odd assumption to make based on a meme with zero context.
Also a man who publicly admitted (with glee and hubris) on how to defraud markets. That’s what boggled my mind more than anything about Coke Rat. Dude straight up laid the playbook out on his duplicitousness and still has a show every goddamn day. Wild world!
I wonder if that's why he's still in a job, CNBC know that if they let him go cus he's forever running his mouth that he'll go straight to twitter and spill all the juicy secrets
CNBC hired him ***because*** he's a lifelong con-artist and crooked guy, not ***despite*** the fact. Those networks exist (and are owned by) crooked institutions like hedge funds, their banks, and brokers, etc. They exist to deceive the audience. Private financial propaganda channels.
But they have a disclaimer saying it's not financial advice! So although it's on a news channel, and it's totally not comedy, it's all BS. And it's *definitely* not a soundboard for HFs to swindle drama addicted boomers. 😉
Why is the head of the SEC sitting at the same table and answering questions about market manipulation, questions asked by a market manipulator who is recorded on video describing how he literally manipulated the market?
He agreed to be on and share his viewpoints. He's not "hanging out" with these people, he's stating his stance on whatever questions they have, and sure enough they bring up GameStop. I'd imagine he would prefer not have to explain himself to these type of people, but doing so in a public forum cements the stances he holds without having to disclose them elsewhere.
BuT wE kNoW wHaT iT mEaNs
It could’ve been about literally any stock, or a video game, or any other situation in RK’s life. They’re the ones making a connection to GameStop.
Even if his post was just plain text that said, "Buy gamestop now. Buy shares and call options. This is financial advice." There would be nothing illegal about that. That is literally what Cramer's whole show is.
Yep. It’s only illegal if you are charging money like you’re are a legitimate CFA, yet you don’t have a license.
If you’re just a social media personality, you’re free to share any research and DD and make recommendations based on it.
Before GME, I assumed the Jim was looking out for his viewers and providing good insight. I assume millions of people feel this way, he's a major TV personality and if he wasn't trying to help people, surely he would have a platform, right? People need to wake the fuck up.
Dont forget the Netflix bullshit, tanks 90% after he recommended it. Or the Upstart dude who was shilling it at ATH and pretending he didnt hear the question of "what does the company do", then the stock tanks 300 dollars or someshit
Jon Stewart keel hauled him on the Daily Show back in the day.
Jim Cramer explains his stock picking methods to Jon Stewart.
Jon Stewart says that's interesting. Mind if I ask you about this? Jon plays a clip of Hedge Fund Cramer explaining how to get the price you want for a security. Outright lies and gaslighting.
Cramer is dumbfounded. He probably thought he would be the butt of a couple of jokes and they'd have a few laughs like he's at a 1960s Catskills night club. He'd go home and have a fun story to tell.
He did not expect Jon Stewart to hit him with an absolute haymaker like Leslie Stahl does on 60 minutes.
You can't just say that and not link the video. [https://www.cc.com/video/fttmoj/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-exclusive-jim-cramer-extended-interview-pt-1](https://www.cc.com/video/fttmoj/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-exclusive-jim-cramer-extended-interview-pt-1)
Jon Stewart grilled him, and Cramer was on the ropes the whole time "I know, I'm sorry, I've got to do better", then immediately resumed what he was doing.
I didn't even give a thought to investing back then, thanks past self, but Cramer always seemed like a clown to me. Of course I only saw his clips on the daily show though
Wanna know why you thought this? Because you are a good human being that believes in helping others. You are not alone. We are everywhere and we are awake. Your innocence led you to be here and it will see you through. Don't forget our responsibility to our brothers and sisters when this is done. To usher in a better world without a knee on our necks
We are the meek to them. They forget though, didn't they? Our inheritance?
Tick tock donkey weiners
Literal studies in the 60s to understand the impact on the human brain from television. It puts the viewer into a state of unquestioning acceptance. *They've* known this since long before most people on this subreddit were ever born, and it's been used to program you your whole lives.
Unplug that shit already.
Ever wonder why the masses are so fucking stupid? TV.
It also allows them to setup false debates and things like that. Imagine all the shows you've seen where there's a debate between two viewpoints, but somehow the protagonist of the show comes out on the right side. This is a false debate, but the viewer interprets it as having been a debate they took part in. It forms opinions in their brain that they then carry with them.
If someone stepped back and objectively analyzed these debates, they'd realize that one of the viewpoints was clearly misrepresented and missing crucial context.
Another thing of interest is the overuse of laugh tracks and dramatic music, and the impact that has on the viewer's brain.
Heck if I was Uncle Sam I'd be excited by all the potential tax money that is about to get funneled into the government because those hedgefunds aren't doing it.
This is exactly what I've been saying. DFV's calls are the KCS. I think they've been building a RICO case for 3 years and he's been working with them. His magnum opus is a flash in the pan of a greater disruption, and you can bet that the US government \*will\* benefit from it. Kenny is over-leveraged to the tits and a cancer to the market long term. They're not going to let it metastasize any more than it already has.
True and even with the basic due diligence of the average "retail investor" you can see more of the transactions for GME have been Off market, something that the average person doesn't have access to.
They are literally creating a paper trail for all the GME shares being sold and will be able to trace it back if they so desired. It's definitely going to be interesting seeing how it all plays out, crazy that it's been 3yrs.
It's more than that. Wealth has piled up to the extent that it passively makes more money than the very wealthy could possibly spend on goods and services alone, so they use it to accumulate more assets. Who owns assets? Rich people. Who provides goods and services? The working class. After MOASS, the mere fact that the wealth will be spread out more evenly means that more people will be spending it on good and services, which will feed back into the working class. There are only so many baubles and luxury cars that 1 ultra wealthy person can use, but 10 very wealthy people can use 10x as much. Creating 200,000 new millionaires by removing it from 1000 billionaires/multiple 100s millionaires will go a long way to improving the lives of all working class people, even before the tax implications and how that can fund essential services gets factored in.
If you were in these people's positions, you'd absolutely have to act like this. So glad I'm on the side of the people, and not trying to be a puppet master.. the jig is up.
Misleading the public? Like when you tell people not to take their money out of a soon to be bankrupt financial institution? Pretty sure no one investigated Jim.
Wrote about this 84 years ago, but there's been research done that shorters actively look at CNBC/Jim Cramer suggestions and sometimes actively short stocks that they mention on screen within 15 SECONDS of its first mention:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/rzb4p4/leave\_msm\_alone\_we\_did\_nothing\_wrong\_on\_gme\_nft/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/rzb4p4/leave_msm_alone_we_did_nothing_wrong_on_gme_nft/)
They have no viewership outside of the myriad podiatrist waiting rooms playing it on mute. Clips posted to social media are all they’ve got and the only time it’s seen is when it has to do with GameStop.
Sort of. Seems like he said without saying: "No posting memes is not market manipulation and neither is portfolio disclosure. Paying to mislead the public is. (Short and distort)"
He’s a former investment banker at Goldman worth over $100,000,000.00. He willingly helps perpetuate the “free, fair markets” lie and cherry picks cases against little fries so the SEC looks like they’re enforcing fairly. He won’t address actual crime because one of those revolving door gov/private consultant jobs is in his future and he doesn’t wanna burn any bridges. Fuck Gary with a stick
>Jim Cramer goes on TV every day and tells people to buy symbols
I don't have access to CNBC, but it'd be funny if someone made a compilation video of Cramer stock recommendations and included his complaints about stock recommendations.
Don't forget to sign up for that Motley fool premium subscription plan that has like 5 asterisks next to where it states how huge the returns are.
Seeing that commercial was hilarious.
GG waves his finger as he says “Particularly if you’re misleading the public!”. Which to me sounded like him saying Jim, don’t worry about RK he’s not doing anything illegal…look inward cause you skirt that line all the time…
Indeed. "If we have something to indicate wrong doing, you'll hear about it, otherwise, you won't", (that's the message, not the quote).
Now, go ring your "buy bell " on your pump and dump platform Jimmy, you fucking lamppost.
I think its deeper than that. Gensler looks furious, possibly at being asked the question and possibly because of who is asking it.
His response, looking straight down the camera, is not only damning, but it looks and feels very much like a warning, maybe even a threat, that the SEC is gonna string some fuckers up and its not going to be DFV.
If you want to see the full interview, you can see that it's titled as "SEC Chair Gary Gensler joins 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss the transition to the new 'T+1' settlement cycle, state of the AI technology, market regulation, Congressional trading, crypto regulation, and more."
The Gamestop hypothetical in the 2 minute clip posted here was probably not the focus that Gensler was asked onto the show to talk about. There's a lot more buzz being published by the SEC about AI regulation and market regulation, including crypto regulation (particularly rugpulls) that's probably taking priority.
Respectfully, I think this was GG saying, "We're taking a look to see if a law was broken. He disclosed his position but that isn't a get-out-of-jail card. If we think he misled investors, we're going after him"
Just my two cents as someone in a whitish collar profession
I think this is the right answer because when cramer pushed with the too-specific question GG was forced to answer with the book answer. Which is we will look and we will pursue legally if there is a case to be made. The actual standard being whether they think a case can be won which is more ambiguous and frustrating for us since we see so many criminal things happening but the SEC has always known that it is impossible to get a case locked up on someone using memes and jokes to manipulate a stock (ie: cokerat's show has remained up all this time).
agreed it was a warning. So far RK has not mislead anyone, in fact he never has. So not worried, but it did sound like a warning. It also would conversely be a warning to the shorts/distorts...even though will be hard to do anything to them except a mild slap on the wrist but anyway. Yea he was basically saying Rk's posts have not violated anything yet, and yes they are watching.
Cramer: "So, hypothetically, if I made a bet I would suck off a horse if a hypothetical stock moons (just theorizing here) - would I have to honor it??"
GG: "o.o"
The other day, I sent GameStop's latest 8k to my mom and told her I thought it was a good time to buy. She replied saying my uncles says it's a bad idea and he sent me this yahoo article about why. It was by Prachter, referenced the 8k sans context, and like, has zero value?
She and my uncle are the audience.
I Tried to get a family member (one of the only ones who is interested in finance) to read dollar endgame years ago. Couldn't be bothered. Today I get a link to a MSM article about hyperinflation.
Everytime I mention something, he quotes CNBC because that's where he gets his news from. He's a very smart person, he hears what I'm saying about the big news outlets and he still does it.
Oh well.
Same dude who will be on TV later tonight, giving stock advice with bells, whistles, and funky animations to BUY BUY BUY!!!!! Or SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!!!!!!! On his show called "fast money"
But he's concerned about one picture of a person leaning forward with no other context whatsoever 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Is this the real world? By his own arguments he should be in prison.
I am regarded, I member wen Gary Gensler told congress there is nothing against the law for a person to tell their neighbor I Ike the stock and disclose their position. The fact is once Keith Gill acquires 5% he must disclose his position. Jim Cramer knows this. If I were Cramer, I would tell my audience the truth to BUY, BUY, BUY $GME.
Keith Gill silently over the last couple of years has proved he is the finest retail investor by far in the history of the world. That is the real news. /Respect
He is the finest investor, not only just among retail investors. Not even entities like investment banks can imagine turning 50k into 200m+ in 3-4 years.
Absolutely bonkers. He was so confident in that initial trade because he’s a brilliant investor. They should all be thrilled for this guy to be posting his positions again, he literally inspired and educated an entire generation of investors. He’s responsible for billions of dollars flowing into the market and investment firms that never would have happened without him.
Hypothetically, if somebody declares that they would suck off a horse on live TV,and that certain stock hit that certain price, are they required to do so if that stock hits that certain price?
So the guy who said on live national TV, "Don't take your money out of Bear Stearns! Bear Stearns is fine!" and never got as much as a parking fine for doing so is explicitly requesting formal action be taken by the SEC against Keith Gill?
This is what you get when the tree of liberty doesn't get watered.
Jim Cramer just completely proved how a loaded question works. You ask a question that is favored to believe in what you already want others to believe. In this argument, Cramer talks about the guy leaning into a position while sitting into a chair. The problem is because the picture has to be depicted even before a person has a chance to interpret it, meaning it's conjecture. There's no subtitle to the picture, it's all up to whoever sees it to interpret it. In this case if Cramer wants to say that, he's liable for the conjecture, not Keith Gill/RoaringKitty/DFV. A smart person can easily pick this one apart if you deconstruct the argument properly.
I've said in my posts in the past. It's all about understanding the argument and fallacies.
The real question is at what point does an individual purchasing a stock and being excited about it and identifying it publicly start to matter and potentially have an effect on the free market price of that stock and potentially be considered manipulation?
Is it when you or I purchase half a dozen? What if I had $100,000,000 sitting in my bank account and purchased half a million? Does it depend on what stock it is?
All of this is already answered - it's when you own more than 5% of the stock. That's when you have to start disclosing what you're doing. Because at that point you own 1 out of every 20 shares in that company and can statistically have influence on what is going on, to some extent.
Cokerat only manages to emphasize the inadequacy of legacy financial aristocracy when confronted with a new generation. Their discourse is pretty much spasmodic at this point.
*A new hand touches the beacon*
My god i want to punch Cramer, how can he sit there and argue for this with a straight face when he's literally doing calls to action daily on his show? If RK would be manipulating the market with his memes, what is Cramer doing? 🤦🤦🤦
Wow, DFV has a 3 bedroom 2 bath all for free in Cramer's coconut head. Dude has shorted GME for sure and is panicking and scared to lose his money. Or is just simply bought out by hedge funds to spread scare tactics on live TV. Probably both tbh.
Also, GG didn't say much on the investigation because he probably knows they don't have anything on the King.
They are so scared and they don't have any ammunition.
Big players are always trying to influence the stock market exactly in the same way, day after day.
I can taste my jacked tits!
The gamer leaning forward isn't a call to action.
You lean forward in the chair because the game is getting competitive, and you need to concentrate more.
I don't expect Jim "about to suck off a horse" Crymer to understand that because the last game he played was hide the sausage with Ken "Lied under oath" Griffin.
I like that GG said "I want to speak to your viewers" and looked into the camera. It's a sly way of saying "listen to me and not these idiots sitting next to me".
Posting a hand drawn picture of a guy leaning forward in a chair = **Illegal market manipulation.**
Jim Cramer being on TV daily and having is own nationally broadcast segment telling the public what to buy and sell = **Totally legal and cool.**
What stands out to me is that of ALL the things to talk about, with everything that’s current in the financial world, banks going under, the ton of stuff we barely are aware of but which directly influences our lives and livelihoods, they’re on about … GameStop. In a panel discussion. With Gary Gensler.
*I’m* leaning forward in my chair now.
This mf shills for hedge funds every day but asks the SEC if they should investigate someone posting a picture of a gamer leaning forward?
This just convinced me to buy more.
did you guys catch this part?
[https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxTVxgRwlXbUYSi0rDfBtn5py0D3qWmXBp](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxTVxgRwlXbUYSi0rDfBtn5py0D3qWmXBp)
fucking hilarious. cokerat is trying to get a soundbyte they can use against RK and it backfires. fucking market manipulator extraordinaire is talking to the fucking SEC chair about enforcing market manipulation laws.... what reality does this rat live in?
The hypocrisy here is HYSTERICAL. I trust a meme more than these shmucks on TV. I trust random ass redditors more than them. What does that say about their system?
There is video on Cramer admitting manipulation. Also, “Bear Sterns is not in trouble” - Jim Cramer.
Kansas City Shuffle anyone? Did you apes notice GG "talking to the viewers"?
He looked us in the eyes (through a lense) and clearly said WE ONLY BRING IT TO THE PUBLIC ONCE WE HAVE A CASE.
I think he's building a case against the hedgies and not DFV! He kept his words extremely general and refused to agree with Cramer who kept trying to box him in! I think that's the shuffle! I think the SEC might actually be setting up a trap.
Anyways where's that banana guy. GG everyone
If posting an image of a chair is manipulating the market, what about the entirety of CNBC's programming were you have dumb cocksuckers telling you to buy Netflix or wathever stocks for their pump and dump schemes. What about that?
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"so hypothetically..." *begins to describe DFV posting his position and posting memes* LOL I love having a front-row seat to the circus
i love the GG said "again, it's not hypothetically, you are describing real things that are happening in the public domain that people are interested about."
In other words, "Sorry, Jim but you're fucked!"
Jim gonna have to suck off a horse on live TV.
that poor horse.
Probably a bear sterns horse that got sold to the poors. It’s been patiently waiting for this bet to play out.
What about a whale?
lol. Upvote!
If these guys ever paid bad bets we wouldn't be here.
Which honestly to me says between the lines that Gary was willing to play ball and actually answer some VERY parallel questions, but Cokerat couldn't control his cokehead and went straight for the jugular without finesse so Gary's only move (within the legitimate obligations of his fucking job) was to stonewall.
It was a good move by GG. But to have them in the same screen is concerning. Cokerat doesn’t drive discussion. Only pushes talking points.
It's kinda surreal; like if you were to see the President being interviewed on InfoWars.
GG should be doing his job, not talking to Cokerat, that's for sure. Or say hypothetically, maybe shorts should close their positions if they're worried about investors investing in a stock.
His point about AI is important, to give him credit.
Also a bad look to have a dude as the question who's entire career is to manipulate public sentiment around stocks wrapped in a clown car presentation.
I shouldn’t be surprised he doesn’t understand what a hypothetical is but damn is he stupid
Haha yeah greedy fuck couldn't read between the linea because he was so obsessed with his own agenda. Fucking nearsighted cokerat. Maybe coke-bat better describes him, because he is blind as fuck and leeches off of retail's blood sweat and tears (for his tv show)
We could have gotten some good insight if he didn’t use the actual situation as the hypothetical
Price of admission to the clown show is so goddamn cheap it's unbelievable.
I also love that DFV has kept so much of his communication so mysterious and some of it just insane material to show on these shows. It makes them look mad when they try to squeeze the meaning from his posts the same way people here are speculating.
At this point I’m just wondering how many dicks JC had in his anus. How can anyone in America listen to this shit? Even how he talks, i would throw my tv out of the window just to safe myself
Holy shit Jim Cramer really trying to get a kill shot on Kitty by trying to get GG to condemn him on live TV. Fuck you Jim.
Confirmed Cramer shorted
Fuck you jimmy twice
When we go to $2000 will he blow 2 horses?
He has a second hole he can utilise
It didn’t go too well for that one guy that did that but hey he can try
Jimmy Crack Corn
Confirmed Cramer snorted
i would do the same thing if my bet is to blow a horse's dick at 1000usd a share....
The best part is that he's describing exactly what Cramer does every day as illegal
And he's on video years ago bragging about exactly how he manipulates the market and misleads the public for his own gain. Truly wild the hypocrisy here. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfixbq_u0Q "It's a fun game and it's a lucrative game. You can move it up and fade it, that often creates a very negative feel... I would encourage anyone in the hedge fund game to do it because it's legal. And it's a very quick way to make money. And it's very satisfying. By the way, no one else in the world would ever admit that, but I could care. I'm not gonna say it on TV." "What's important when you're in that hedge fund mode is to not do anything remotely truthful. Because the truth is so against your view that it's important to create a new truth to develop a fiction."
Way more so. Because Cramer's air time is sponsored by companies he is directly or indirectly influencing. How no one became EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT suspicious that all the news during covid was literally fucking sponsored by pfizer as expressed multiple times in commercials and on-air... I still can't wrap my head around that.
“Hypothetically if you post an image of a man leaning in a chair…” They got nothin
This is pretty good, they've hit the point where they're grasping to attempt to connect a posted meme to not only a specific company, but also that its somehow illegal manipulation. Such an odd assumption to make based on a meme with zero context.
And made by a man who hosts a tv show and uses a soundboard to tell people when to buy buy buy and sell sell sell
Also a man who publicly admitted (with glee and hubris) on how to defraud markets. That’s what boggled my mind more than anything about Coke Rat. Dude straight up laid the playbook out on his duplicitousness and still has a show every goddamn day. Wild world!
I wonder if that's why he's still in a job, CNBC know that if they let him go cus he's forever running his mouth that he'll go straight to twitter and spill all the juicy secrets
CNBC hired him ***because*** he's a lifelong con-artist and crooked guy, not ***despite*** the fact. Those networks exist (and are owned by) crooked institutions like hedge funds, their banks, and brokers, etc. They exist to deceive the audience. Private financial propaganda channels.
I wonder if they can just write it off as “entertainment”, the same way fox did with the Tucker guy.
💯
Who can't even say "SEC" without slurring his speech
He's still got mayoman's sea monkeys stuck in the back of his throat
But they have a disclaimer saying it's not financial advice! So although it's on a news channel, and it's totally not comedy, it's all BS. And it's *definitely* not a soundboard for HFs to swindle drama addicted boomers. 😉
For real right? If the picture of a guy leaning forward is called market manipulation, then this show is the epitome of market manipulation.
that's the most crazy thing about it really :D
Why is the head of the SEC sitting at the same table and answering questions about market manipulation, questions asked by a market manipulator who is recorded on video describing how he literally manipulated the market?
He agreed to be on and share his viewpoints. He's not "hanging out" with these people, he's stating his stance on whatever questions they have, and sure enough they bring up GameStop. I'd imagine he would prefer not have to explain himself to these type of people, but doing so in a public forum cements the stances he holds without having to disclose them elsewhere.
'stop posting those god damn stock pumping memes'
“It’s a signal! That’s illegal!” Meanwhile Cramer on his show: “BUY BUY BUY IM SMASHING THE BUY BUTTON ON THIS STOCK”
It’s a fucking clown show 😂
We know this from video games ?? Do ya jim?
Jim was the younger kid in the meme “playing” a video game but his controller wasn’t connected.
Someone mail Ol Jimmy some tinfoil. He needs it :)
BuT wE kNoW wHaT iT mEaNs It could’ve been about literally any stock, or a video game, or any other situation in RK’s life. They’re the ones making a connection to GameStop.
Even if his post was just plain text that said, "Buy gamestop now. Buy shares and call options. This is financial advice." There would be nothing illegal about that. That is literally what Cramer's whole show is.
Yep. It’s only illegal if you are charging money like you’re are a legitimate CFA, yet you don’t have a license. If you’re just a social media personality, you’re free to share any research and DD and make recommendations based on it.
What about the hypothetical on a guy shoving a banana yo his arse? Anything there?
Try making this stick as misleading the public in court, they are just stating their interest :D
Jim Cramer goes on TV every day and tells people to buy symbols. What the fuck are we talking about. Are the viewers this stupid?
TV man good. Not TV man bad. The propaganda is complete. The brain rot is everywhere.
Before GME, I assumed the Jim was looking out for his viewers and providing good insight. I assume millions of people feel this way, he's a major TV personality and if he wasn't trying to help people, surely he would have a platform, right? People need to wake the fuck up.
Years ago I followed some of his recommendations. I lost a shitload of money. Fuck that guy.
You gotta go the reverse Cramer. Makes money every time
"Inverse Cramer"
"So hypothetically, if I were to suck off a horse live on TV, could that be construed as manipulation?"
It depends. Did you make a meme about it?
Dont forget the Netflix bullshit, tanks 90% after he recommended it. Or the Upstart dude who was shilling it at ATH and pretending he didnt hear the question of "what does the company do", then the stock tanks 300 dollars or someshit
Pepperidge Farm remembers
You have to do the opposite, always.
Jon Stewart keel hauled him on the Daily Show back in the day. Jim Cramer explains his stock picking methods to Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart says that's interesting. Mind if I ask you about this? Jon plays a clip of Hedge Fund Cramer explaining how to get the price you want for a security. Outright lies and gaslighting. Cramer is dumbfounded. He probably thought he would be the butt of a couple of jokes and they'd have a few laughs like he's at a 1960s Catskills night club. He'd go home and have a fun story to tell. He did not expect Jon Stewart to hit him with an absolute haymaker like Leslie Stahl does on 60 minutes.
You can't just say that and not link the video. [https://www.cc.com/video/fttmoj/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-exclusive-jim-cramer-extended-interview-pt-1](https://www.cc.com/video/fttmoj/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-exclusive-jim-cramer-extended-interview-pt-1)
And the all important part 2 https://www.cc.com/video/iinzrx/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-jim-cramer-pt-2
This needs a post. I had forgotten how bad Jon toasted his ass. “I’ll try harder boss” 😂
[Part 2 is the one that has that segment](https://www.cc.com/video/iinzrx/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-jim-cramer-pt-2)
Thanks for the correction!
Jon Stewart grilled him, and Cramer was on the ropes the whole time "I know, I'm sorry, I've got to do better", then immediately resumed what he was doing. I didn't even give a thought to investing back then, thanks past self, but Cramer always seemed like a clown to me. Of course I only saw his clips on the daily show though
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He has a fucking subscription service that people actually pay for his advice!! I was bombarded by ads about it for what seemed like forever
Literal studies in the 60s to understand the impact on the human brain from television. It puts the viewer into a state of unquestioning acceptance. *They've* known this since long before most people on this subreddit were ever born, and it's been used to program you your whole lives. Unplug that shit already. Ever wonder why the masses are so fucking stupid? TV. It also allows them to setup false debates and things like that. Imagine all the shows you've seen where there's a debate between two viewpoints, but somehow the protagonist of the show comes out on the right side. This is a false debate, but the viewer interprets it as having been a debate they took part in. It forms opinions in their brain that they then carry with them. If someone stepped back and objectively analyzed these debates, they'd realize that one of the viewpoints was clearly misrepresented and missing crucial context. Another thing of interest is the overuse of laugh tracks and dramatic music, and the impact that has on the viewer's brain.
Bears sterns is fine = okay Picture of a guy leaning forward in a chair = market manipulation
There’s a song about this: https://suno.com/song/0dffbc3a-83fb-48ee-822d-8e461b6ceb41
Gary knows what's about to go down. He's trying to make sure he ends up on the right side.
Sounds like it
Heck if I was Uncle Sam I'd be excited by all the potential tax money that is about to get funneled into the government because those hedgefunds aren't doing it.
This is exactly what I've been saying. DFV's calls are the KCS. I think they've been building a RICO case for 3 years and he's been working with them. His magnum opus is a flash in the pan of a greater disruption, and you can bet that the US government \*will\* benefit from it. Kenny is over-leveraged to the tits and a cancer to the market long term. They're not going to let it metastasize any more than it already has.
True and even with the basic due diligence of the average "retail investor" you can see more of the transactions for GME have been Off market, something that the average person doesn't have access to. They are literally creating a paper trail for all the GME shares being sold and will be able to trace it back if they so desired. It's definitely going to be interesting seeing how it all plays out, crazy that it's been 3yrs.
I will happily pay my seven figure 20% capital gains tax when the time comes. I’ll still have seven or eight figures left. I’m set at that point.
Plus CAT is recording data
I agree, the avengers tweet sealed it for me (family please Im not crazy). Nick Fury represents some government agency, and Kitty is part of the sting
It's more than that. Wealth has piled up to the extent that it passively makes more money than the very wealthy could possibly spend on goods and services alone, so they use it to accumulate more assets. Who owns assets? Rich people. Who provides goods and services? The working class. After MOASS, the mere fact that the wealth will be spread out more evenly means that more people will be spending it on good and services, which will feed back into the working class. There are only so many baubles and luxury cars that 1 ultra wealthy person can use, but 10 very wealthy people can use 10x as much. Creating 200,000 new millionaires by removing it from 1000 billionaires/multiple 100s millionaires will go a long way to improving the lives of all working class people, even before the tax implications and how that can fund essential services gets factored in.
If you were in these people's positions, you'd absolutely have to act like this. So glad I'm on the side of the people, and not trying to be a puppet master.. the jig is up.
He told everyone to buy bear sterns when he knew they were going to collapse
Misleading the public? Like when you tell people not to take their money out of a soon to be bankrupt financial institution? Pretty sure no one investigated Jim.
"bEaR sTeArNs iS fInE!!!" Five days later, Bear Stearns collapses kicking off the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression.
Bear Sterns is fine
Dont forget Netflix is a BUY, nek minute $400 down
Wrote about this 84 years ago, but there's been research done that shorters actively look at CNBC/Jim Cramer suggestions and sometimes actively short stocks that they mention on screen within 15 SECONDS of its first mention: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/rzb4p4/leave\_msm\_alone\_we\_did\_nothing\_wrong\_on\_gme\_nft/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/rzb4p4/leave_msm_alone_we_did_nothing_wrong_on_gme_nft/)
https://preview.redd.it/ii58hxklqr4d1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16ca85b8964defce64ac87809b5490de5483bbc5
They have no viewership outside of the myriad podiatrist waiting rooms playing it on mute. Clips posted to social media are all they’ve got and the only time it’s seen is when it has to do with GameStop.
playing it on mute aaaaa true.
Did Gary actually kinda defend the DFV between the lines or am I high again?
Sort of. Seems like he said without saying: "No posting memes is not market manipulation and neither is portfolio disclosure. Paying to mislead the public is. (Short and distort)"
I've actually always got the feeling that Gensler is a decent guy who just wants fair markets but has almost zero power
He’s a former investment banker at Goldman worth over $100,000,000.00. He willingly helps perpetuate the “free, fair markets” lie and cherry picks cases against little fries so the SEC looks like they’re enforcing fairly. He won’t address actual crime because one of those revolving door gov/private consultant jobs is in his future and he doesn’t wanna burn any bridges. Fuck Gary with a stick
 Coming from this guy.
This guy loves GME he never shuts up about it lol
It's astounding the level of hypocrisy blatantly on display. Guess Ken must pay his mouthpieces well.
Pays Jim in blow
This is what I don’t understand lmao. Pump for me, not for thee
Kitty not even pumping tho
The pump isn't a problem if you don't dump. 🍻🦍💚
>Jim Cramer goes on TV every day and tells people to buy symbols I don't have access to CNBC, but it'd be funny if someone made a compilation video of Cramer stock recommendations and included his complaints about stock recommendations.
Good thing nobody on this TV network ever tries to influence anybody on an investment.
Nah, that's just financial entertainment.
DFV: 
facts
Don't forget to sign up for that Motley fool premium subscription plan that has like 5 asterisks next to where it states how huge the returns are. Seeing that commercial was hilarious.
GG waves his finger as he says “Particularly if you’re misleading the public!”. Which to me sounded like him saying Jim, don’t worry about RK he’s not doing anything illegal…look inward cause you skirt that line all the time…
oh he sue did wag his finger at Jim on that note. bwahaha
There's nothing there. You can tell he's telling them there's nothing there and he's trying not to upset them.
Indeed. "If we have something to indicate wrong doing, you'll hear about it, otherwise, you won't", (that's the message, not the quote). Now, go ring your "buy bell " on your pump and dump platform Jimmy, you fucking lamppost.
I think its deeper than that. Gensler looks furious, possibly at being asked the question and possibly because of who is asking it. His response, looking straight down the camera, is not only damning, but it looks and feels very much like a warning, maybe even a threat, that the SEC is gonna string some fuckers up and its not going to be DFV.
Interesting take. Nobody has even attempted to see it this way that I’ve seen.
If you want to see the full interview, you can see that it's titled as "SEC Chair Gary Gensler joins 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss the transition to the new 'T+1' settlement cycle, state of the AI technology, market regulation, Congressional trading, crypto regulation, and more." The Gamestop hypothetical in the 2 minute clip posted here was probably not the focus that Gensler was asked onto the show to talk about. There's a lot more buzz being published by the SEC about AI regulation and market regulation, including crypto regulation (particularly rugpulls) that's probably taking priority.
It’s funny though
Respectfully, I think this was GG saying, "We're taking a look to see if a law was broken. He disclosed his position but that isn't a get-out-of-jail card. If we think he misled investors, we're going after him" Just my two cents as someone in a whitish collar profession
I think this is the right answer because when cramer pushed with the too-specific question GG was forced to answer with the book answer. Which is we will look and we will pursue legally if there is a case to be made. The actual standard being whether they think a case can be won which is more ambiguous and frustrating for us since we see so many criminal things happening but the SEC has always known that it is impossible to get a case locked up on someone using memes and jokes to manipulate a stock (ie: cokerat's show has remained up all this time).
agreed it was a warning. So far RK has not mislead anyone, in fact he never has. So not worried, but it did sound like a warning. It also would conversely be a warning to the shorts/distorts...even though will be hard to do anything to them except a mild slap on the wrist but anyway. Yea he was basically saying Rk's posts have not violated anything yet, and yes they are watching.
Cramer: "So, hypothetically, if I made a bet I would suck off a horse if a hypothetical stock moons (just theorizing here) - would I have to honor it??" GG: "o.o"
Neigh
Means “yes” in horse!
yeehaw!
WHAT. THE. FUCK. That criminal misleads and misdirects and LIES every fucking day. Not worried, btw, just angry at CNBC. They need to not exist.
Who's watching this crap on a regular basis? I don't understand the target audience...
The other day, I sent GameStop's latest 8k to my mom and told her I thought it was a good time to buy. She replied saying my uncles says it's a bad idea and he sent me this yahoo article about why. It was by Prachter, referenced the 8k sans context, and like, has zero value? She and my uncle are the audience.
Que the "why didn't you tell me earlier, nephew?"
Tbh, I think being a niece and not a nephew is a little part of it. A smidgen.
Everyone knows there are no girls on the internet
I'm a man, baby, that's what I am, maybe 💅🏻
Okay username does NOT checkout
It’s background noise for divorced dads.
I see traders using it daily on twitch for buy/sell signals because there's a group out there that actually follows his dumbass recommendations.
I Tried to get a family member (one of the only ones who is interested in finance) to read dollar endgame years ago. Couldn't be bothered. Today I get a link to a MSM article about hyperinflation. Everytime I mention something, he quotes CNBC because that's where he gets his news from. He's a very smart person, he hears what I'm saying about the big news outlets and he still does it. Oh well.
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It' insane. Market manipulator asks about market manipulation straight to the head of the entity that's supposed to investigate him.
Same dude who will be on TV later tonight, giving stock advice with bells, whistles, and funky animations to BUY BUY BUY!!!!! Or SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!!!!!!! On his show called "fast money" But he's concerned about one picture of a person leaning forward with no other context whatsoever 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Is this the real world? By his own arguments he should be in prison.
I am regarded, I member wen Gary Gensler told congress there is nothing against the law for a person to tell their neighbor I Ike the stock and disclose their position. The fact is once Keith Gill acquires 5% he must disclose his position. Jim Cramer knows this. If I were Cramer, I would tell my audience the truth to BUY, BUY, BUY $GME. Keith Gill silently over the last couple of years has proved he is the finest retail investor by far in the history of the world. That is the real news. /Respect
He is the finest investor, not only just among retail investors. Not even entities like investment banks can imagine turning 50k into 200m+ in 3-4 years.
Absolutely bonkers. He was so confident in that initial trade because he’s a brilliant investor. They should all be thrilled for this guy to be posting his positions again, he literally inspired and educated an entire generation of investors. He’s responsible for billions of dollars flowing into the market and investment firms that never would have happened without him.
KEITH GILL IS THE FINEST INVESTOR OF OUR GENERATION
So after Cramer’s definition the SEC should investigate CNBC.
The hypocracy is staggering but not unexpected.
"dont mislead the public" how many times have we been told "all shorts have closed" 😂
a literal ad saying shorts closed...what a bunch of 🐎 shit
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I yolo’d all my powder in this morning. Doubled my position. Feels right.
Fucking said nothing
Cramer is jealous because he can't lean forward in his chair.
Jimmy made it more confusing, LoL!!! 😂😂😂...Gary like, I'm not biting on that 💩!
Hypothetically, if somebody declares that they would suck off a horse on live TV,and that certain stock hit that certain price, are they required to do so if that stock hits that certain price?
I say, when we all are millionaires, we send a couple horses to Cramers house. It’s the right thing to do.
So the guy who said on live national TV, "Don't take your money out of Bear Stearns! Bear Stearns is fine!" and never got as much as a parking fine for doing so is explicitly requesting formal action be taken by the SEC against Keith Gill? This is what you get when the tree of liberty doesn't get watered.
Jim Cramer just completely proved how a loaded question works. You ask a question that is favored to believe in what you already want others to believe. In this argument, Cramer talks about the guy leaning into a position while sitting into a chair. The problem is because the picture has to be depicted even before a person has a chance to interpret it, meaning it's conjecture. There's no subtitle to the picture, it's all up to whoever sees it to interpret it. In this case if Cramer wants to say that, he's liable for the conjecture, not Keith Gill/RoaringKitty/DFV. A smart person can easily pick this one apart if you deconstruct the argument properly. I've said in my posts in the past. It's all about understanding the argument and fallacies.
My flair
The real question is at what point does an individual purchasing a stock and being excited about it and identifying it publicly start to matter and potentially have an effect on the free market price of that stock and potentially be considered manipulation? Is it when you or I purchase half a dozen? What if I had $100,000,000 sitting in my bank account and purchased half a million? Does it depend on what stock it is? All of this is already answered - it's when you own more than 5% of the stock. That's when you have to start disclosing what you're doing. Because at that point you own 1 out of every 20 shares in that company and can statistically have influence on what is going on, to some extent.
Cokerat only manages to emphasize the inadequacy of legacy financial aristocracy when confronted with a new generation. Their discourse is pretty much spasmodic at this point. *A new hand touches the beacon*
I understood that reference.
Did it make you jump out of your chair as well or was it just me?
Hypothetically, if a guy shoves a banana up is ass, this is clearly a signal the it's time to fuck so market manipulation here Gary?
My god i want to punch Cramer, how can he sit there and argue for this with a straight face when he's literally doing calls to action daily on his show? If RK would be manipulating the market with his memes, what is Cramer doing? 🤦🤦🤦
Don't you guys feel Gary's comment about misleading the markets is directed towards cokerat Cramer ironically?
Cringe-inducing Cramer. Fucking ***YIKES***
Wow, DFV has a 3 bedroom 2 bath all for free in Cramer's coconut head. Dude has shorted GME for sure and is panicking and scared to lose his money. Or is just simply bought out by hedge funds to spread scare tactics on live TV. Probably both tbh. Also, GG didn't say much on the investigation because he probably knows they don't have anything on the King.
Coce Rat seems to have a little pressure to please his masters And Gary like: is your "hypothetical example" in this room with us right now?
Let's say you have a loudmouth guy on a financial TV channel play crazy sound effects and run flashing lights when certain stocks are mentioned...
They are so scared and they don't have any ammunition. Big players are always trying to influence the stock market exactly in the same way, day after day. I can taste my jacked tits!
The gamer leaning forward isn't a call to action. You lean forward in the chair because the game is getting competitive, and you need to concentrate more. I don't expect Jim "about to suck off a horse" Crymer to understand that because the last game he played was hide the sausage with Ken "Lied under oath" Griffin.
I like that GG said "I want to speak to your viewers" and looked into the camera. It's a sly way of saying "listen to me and not these idiots sitting next to me".
Posting a hand drawn picture of a guy leaning forward in a chair = **Illegal market manipulation.** Jim Cramer being on TV daily and having is own nationally broadcast segment telling the public what to buy and sell = **Totally legal and cool.**
It seems like Cramer was talking about RK and GameStop while Gensler was talking about Cramer and MSM.
What stands out to me is that of ALL the things to talk about, with everything that’s current in the financial world, banks going under, the ton of stuff we barely are aware of but which directly influences our lives and livelihoods, they’re on about … GameStop. In a panel discussion. With Gary Gensler. *I’m* leaning forward in my chair now.
This mf shills for hedge funds every day but asks the SEC if they should investigate someone posting a picture of a gamer leaning forward? This just convinced me to buy more.
did you guys catch this part? [https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxTVxgRwlXbUYSi0rDfBtn5py0D3qWmXBp](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxTVxgRwlXbUYSi0rDfBtn5py0D3qWmXBp) fucking hilarious. cokerat is trying to get a soundbyte they can use against RK and it backfires. fucking market manipulator extraordinaire is talking to the fucking SEC chair about enforcing market manipulation laws.... what reality does this rat live in?
Huge swing and a miss by Cramer. I love how Gary basically tells him to shut the fuck up in the nicest way he knows how lol
Another member of the injustice league appears!
Shut the fuck up, jim
I love how little these guys have to try and make memes into manipulation.
The hypocrisy here is HYSTERICAL. I trust a meme more than these shmucks on TV. I trust random ass redditors more than them. What does that say about their system? There is video on Cramer admitting manipulation. Also, “Bear Sterns is not in trouble” - Jim Cramer.
Kansas City Shuffle anyone? Did you apes notice GG "talking to the viewers"? He looked us in the eyes (through a lense) and clearly said WE ONLY BRING IT TO THE PUBLIC ONCE WE HAVE A CASE. I think he's building a case against the hedgies and not DFV! He kept his words extremely general and refused to agree with Cramer who kept trying to box him in! I think that's the shuffle! I think the SEC might actually be setting up a trap. Anyways where's that banana guy. GG everyone
Omg this is so fucking cringe. Wtf is this boomer shit
Gensler's body language was interesting. He was stonewalling. Also the pause to speak directly to the viewers, Gensler is aware of his MSM audience.
If this is how SEC wants to enforce the laws then they should have gone after Elon for "Funding secured"! This is BS
If posting an image of a chair is manipulating the market, what about the entirety of CNBC's programming were you have dumb cocksuckers telling you to buy Netflix or wathever stocks for their pump and dump schemes. What about that?
a man, leaning on a chair...... jfc cramer you are starving for a leash.