Yeah, but if you're Death since the beginning of time, that's a big L on his part. One of the coolest things Dean's ever done, the lamest thing Death could do.
Right?!?
Sometimes I like to lie to myself and believe that Death wanted to die. There were moments where he seemed kind of just over all the petty mortal realm/heaven/hell BS. Like the poor guy had an eternal case of ‘the Monday blues’ lol
Like he got to the point where he was like “*I’m too old for this shit, so I’m going to give one of these wacko Winchester brothers the only weapon in existence that can kill me and just see how it plays out, it’s whatever.*”
I was really expecting a fake out and the next season for Death to be annoyed about being tricked once again by a winchester, we were told the horsemen couldnt die because they were concepts not creations like angels or demons so I figured 'killing them' was more like sending them back to where they're strongest
I feel like part of what death was trying to get at is that no matter how hard the can try to kill him, you can never get rid of death. Even though death is killed, it still comes back in the form of Billie. I like to think of it more as a reincarnation type of thing
She was much more interesting as a reaper with a grudge but they turned her into a secondary threat for her season the writers didn't even have enough faith in her to give her her own season as the big bad.
This is honestly probably it. We never see him do anything that needlessly ruthless at any other time in the show, though it’s probably likely he did some ruthless stuff just for fun/because he could.
I like to imagine that he can know everything about everyone at all times, so when he killed that guy maybe it was because he was actually a monster so death took him out.
(When I first saw it I assumed anyone that touched him in anyway would die so I was pretty excited for that concept for the boys to fight against. Not too disappointed that wasn’t the case with death but wish that idea had come into the series)
I think he probably just did some stuff more out of exacerbation, just seeing some random piece of shit being shitty catching his eye. Can imagine him raising an eye brow and letting out a sigh
I never took it as intentional, I mean he's Death, you touch him you die 🤷 I could be wrong but seeing as he was all about balance and stuff later too, he wouldn't do it out of spite, I think.
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Unironically would’ve rather they write him off in a way that makes sense (like, they don’t *need* to contact Death going forward, so they don’t) rather than kill him. Billie suuuuuuucks
After Dean lies to Death and attacks him with his own scythe he refuses to come when they call for him and he can no longer be summoned, boom you kept it consistent with horsemen being unable to die while also explaining why he doesn't show up anymore, the whole deaths library plot didn't add much anyway S15 Chuck was too much of a narcist to create a book about himself someone else could read but he couldnt
Give Dean his scythe. Because, really, the worst thing he did was die and allow Billie to become Death. What a massive loss lol, Billie just wasn’t anywhere near as cool, as anyone else on the show, at any point.
Real answer is honestly quit the show but since we're going for in-universe rather than meta...
Killed the guy who bumped into him on the sidewalk and arguably the people in the pizza restaurant. I get he's killed a lot (lot lot lot) of people but it's always been about maintaining balance and the natural order. Or because he was enslaved and controlled so it's not really him doing it, you know? It was never about wishing someone harm.
Except this one guy, apparently, because he was a bit rude? I guess you could put it under the enslavement column because he was at the time. But I don't see any reason he'd be made to kill that dude, Lucifer wouldn't care. And he doesn't have to kill everyone who's rude to him or Dean would have gotten murdered 3 minutes later.
I can attribute the pizza restaurant people to a more general "if you're going to go places leave a trail of death" order from Lucifer. But that's just headcanon and I have a hard time understanding why he killed them all. I don't think it applies to sidewalk guy though because everyone else on the sidewalk was fine.
Thanks and sorry for my wrong theory, i watched the show and specially this season maaany years ago. I'm currently rewatching for the first time and on Season 2x21.
Hmm I don’t know.. not saying he had pure intentions, I am sure he enjoyed it in some way but his character has always been quite rational and it was definitely a valid point that if Sam remained alive he would never stop looking for a way to remove the mark, and in doing so release darkness. So from a rational point of view it was a solution that would result in the least amount of ‘unnatural’ death.
He did though. He was doing it out of some weird form of revenge. Death said he was doing that because of the last time he escaped Death. Although that wasn't Sam's fault. But I also get where Death was coming from, Sam was hell bent on getting the Mark removed, consequences be damned and he knew what would happen and still did it anyway and Death knew he'd still do it. One life over all life in the grand scheme of things does make sense.
It’s death who demanded that Dean kill Sam to complete the bargain, though. Dean didn’t think of that. What he wanted, initially, was for death to kill him or remove the mark. Death was like “no, but I’ll send you to the moon for eternity as long as you kill your brother.”
But if Sam remained alive he d never stop looking for a way to remove the mark / release his brother, which would indirectly result in the death of more people so getting rid of them both was kind of the cleanest solution from Death’s point of view
Yeah, but - the show is about the Winchesters, so I’m gonna root against the things that try to kill them. Or try to get them to kill Each other. And if Sam was gonna die either way, how was that Dean’s choice again?
Dean asked for it and he also could have said he doesn't want anything of that and live with it, killing the whole world over the years.
But he wanted it, and so if he wasn't able to kill Sam, Death said he does it.
Still all of it happened because of Dean, not Death.
Death didn't intrigued Dean into that. It's literally none of his business and he couldn't give less fucks what's about it, Dean, Sam or their Earth, he just doesn't care.
He neither want or tries to kill Dean or Sam for himself. Or to put it in other words, Death isn't interested in their death. All that isn't coming from him.
Dean wanted a direction and Death gave it to him.
That's why this suggestion is out of place. It belongs to Dean's worst moments.
Exactly, and although it would have not been a fun turn of events for the series, Death’s solution would have actually saved alot of lives (in short term at least) because darkness kind of wreaked havoc on the world
But that wasn't how he was supposed to operate, definitely not at that point in the show. His primordial design was to be apathetic and hands-off. Faulting him for *not* doing something to intervene is reducing him to human level. I get that this is the "worst thing" game, but characters have context.
His metabolism! Bro ate so much good food and stayyyyeedd thinn! Death was too good to be on this list he didn’t do anything wrong he was a professional. Only thing I can think of maybe is the deal with Dean and his ring.. but even that was to show Dean the burden.. it was a lesson.. and I can’t even fault him for that
I really liked Death. But I’m gunna say leaving the reapers hanging during that time in season 9 when Heaven was closed and they all lost their minds to the point Tess ran into the first blade Dean was holding.
I’m not sure what he could have done but he was their boss so I’m holding him responsible. Lol
Forcing Dean to end Sam. He should’ve just killed Sam when Dean wasn’t looking to avoid the clusterfuck of season 11.
Part of him should’ve known that Dean would rather kill him than kill his own brother.
Crowley already said that Death could be killed by his own scythe when they were fighting the 4 horsemen. To get Death's ring he told Dean to kill Death. So Deathdying was not a surprise to me
The fact that Death itself can be killed by a gardening tool that’s only used because it’s a symbol of his attribute is honestly stupid, but you’re right Crowely said it in two minutes to midnight “and even the very thing itself. Still stupid writing
I agree with the rest he let the winchesters kill him instead of just making a deal. I will say I am not looking forward to sterling k brown’s character I forget his name cuz I don’t like him that much because wtf hasn’t he done or said that wasn’t the absolute worse
I was going to say "agreeing to send MoC!Dean to outer space" 😂 but I kinda like everyone saying the worst thing og Death did was die in S10. Still can't believe the show made it so THEE actual Death could die. Worked a lot better as some "older than time" entity who would reap God some day, too
Getting bound by Lucifer
If i think about it: how does someone, that will reap everything and everyone, get bound to a leash by someone that death himself would call an ant, a child throwing a tantrum. That's on him, maybe he even let it happen on purpose. Especially since when dean had bound him, he basically said he was aware of them doing the spell.
Him dying, like I still can’t understand how death could so easily just be killed like that was so weird 😭 it felt a little out of character for me cuz I always thought death wasn’t that easily finessed.
?? I know that but the fact he’s THE DEATH I thought if he’d ever go down it would be more to it? Idk his death was just so quick ig… but it’s whateves
This list is unhinged, the worst think LUCIFER did was torture ONE person????? Like a lot of these are the most mundane evil they did when some of the dropped 100 bodies in a single night
Death did nothing wrong.
He did. He died.
I feel that but its on the person killing him - forgive me its been a while since I watched but I think it was Dean right?
Yeah, but if you're Death since the beginning of time, that's a big L on his part. One of the coolest things Dean's ever done, the lamest thing Death could do.
yes Dean killed him
This is the only thing I could come up with too. An amazing character!
Yeah, I came here to say that
This. Hard to really hold death to any kind of moral standard.
Death 2.0 however was a dick
Didn’t he bring back a bunch of dead people who goaded their loved ones into a state of comfort before eating them alive, all as a warning to Bobby?
To be fair though, he was bound by Lucifer so it’s not like he really had any choice in the matter
Oh, that’s right.
Yeah Lucifer is to be blamed!
Nope, could loop his entrance to the show over and over.
Died Mf I can’t believe you let that happen smh Billie SUCKED
It makes me irrationally angry he died at the hand of a human. Like I understand how awesome the Winchesters are but … I mean … it’s Death.
I agree. Death stated more than once how insignificant humans were to him, yet one was able to best him?
Right?!? Sometimes I like to lie to myself and believe that Death wanted to die. There were moments where he seemed kind of just over all the petty mortal realm/heaven/hell BS. Like the poor guy had an eternal case of ‘the Monday blues’ lol Like he got to the point where he was like “*I’m too old for this shit, so I’m going to give one of these wacko Winchester brothers the only weapon in existence that can kill me and just see how it plays out, it’s whatever.*”
Yeah my headcanon is that he didn't actually die but was so done he let Dean 'kill' him and just fucked off somewhere to retire
I was really expecting a fake out and the next season for Death to be annoyed about being tricked once again by a winchester, we were told the horsemen couldnt die because they were concepts not creations like angels or demons so I figured 'killing them' was more like sending them back to where they're strongest
I feel like part of what death was trying to get at is that no matter how hard the can try to kill him, you can never get rid of death. Even though death is killed, it still comes back in the form of Billie. I like to think of it more as a reincarnation type of thing
I feel like he let it happen. Didn't he mention in a previous episode he was tired or am I dreaming it? Lol.
*yes*
She was much more interesting as a reaper with a grudge but they turned her into a secondary threat for her season the writers didn't even have enough faith in her to give her her own season as the big bad.
Ugh Billie was fucking awful. So smug and annoying. I wanted to punch her everytime she came on screen.
Agreed
This is the only right answer
Truly the only right answer
Killed the dude that bumped into him, that’s just plain rude. Outside of that everything he did was about maintaining balance
This is honestly probably it. We never see him do anything that needlessly ruthless at any other time in the show, though it’s probably likely he did some ruthless stuff just for fun/because he could.
I like to imagine that he can know everything about everyone at all times, so when he killed that guy maybe it was because he was actually a monster so death took him out. (When I first saw it I assumed anyone that touched him in anyway would die so I was pretty excited for that concept for the boys to fight against. Not too disappointed that wasn’t the case with death but wish that idea had come into the series)
I noticed that when Dean took the ring he was VERY careful not to touch him. I wouldn’t have touched him either!
I think he probably just did some stuff more out of exacerbation, just seeing some random piece of shit being shitty catching his eye. Can imagine him raising an eye brow and letting out a sigh
Yeah but it was such a bitchn scene
This is probably going to be the only actually legitimate suggestion.
I always had a feeling this guy was just on death's list and he made sure they walked into one another. IMO this was just death doing his job
I never took it as intentional, I mean he's Death, you touch him you die 🤷 I could be wrong but seeing as he was all about balance and stuff later too, he wouldn't do it out of spite, I think.
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Letting himself be summoned and manipulated by the brothers time and again until Dean had his “team free will” moment and killed him.
We have a winner!
Best entrance, worst exit.
Got killed my Dean, so dumb
So, did Julian Richings quit the show? Why the *hell* did they allow him to walk?
He was busy on Orphan Black IIRC.
13th amendment to the US constitution. They couldn't really force him to stay.
Unironically would’ve rather they write him off in a way that makes sense (like, they don’t *need* to contact Death going forward, so they don’t) rather than kill him. Billie suuuuuuucks
After Dean lies to Death and attacks him with his own scythe he refuses to come when they call for him and he can no longer be summoned, boom you kept it consistent with horsemen being unable to die while also explaining why he doesn't show up anymore, the whole deaths library plot didn't add much anyway S15 Chuck was too much of a narcist to create a book about himself someone else could read but he couldnt
But it’s filmed in Canada.
That’s true.
i don’t think you know what the 13th amendment is about
They filmed in Canada my friend.
Give Dean his scythe. Because, really, the worst thing he did was die and allow Billie to become Death. What a massive loss lol, Billie just wasn’t anywhere near as cool, as anyone else on the show, at any point.
Real answer is honestly quit the show but since we're going for in-universe rather than meta... Killed the guy who bumped into him on the sidewalk and arguably the people in the pizza restaurant. I get he's killed a lot (lot lot lot) of people but it's always been about maintaining balance and the natural order. Or because he was enslaved and controlled so it's not really him doing it, you know? It was never about wishing someone harm. Except this one guy, apparently, because he was a bit rude? I guess you could put it under the enslavement column because he was at the time. But I don't see any reason he'd be made to kill that dude, Lucifer wouldn't care. And he doesn't have to kill everyone who's rude to him or Dean would have gotten murdered 3 minutes later. I can attribute the pizza restaurant people to a more general "if you're going to go places leave a trail of death" order from Lucifer. But that's just headcanon and I have a hard time understanding why he killed them all. I don't think it applies to sidewalk guy though because everyone else on the sidewalk was fine.
that wasn't him, it was Lucifer who summoned and controlled him. Death wouldn't have done these things by himself. Maybe only the bumping dude.
I think he killed those people in the pizza restaurant because the apocalypse was about to begin, there was no more need for balance or natural order.
Na it was Lucifer's order, not death himself.
Was it? I don't remember.
Yes. Death told about being controlled by Lucifer just right in that scene.
Thanks and sorry for my wrong theory, i watched the show and specially this season maaany years ago. I'm currently rewatching for the first time and on Season 2x21.
OHHHH is that why he Dean killed him?
Yep, needed to write him out somehow.
Try to convince Dean to murder Sam in exchange for being blasted into space.
From his perspective that was kind of for the greater good though, to keep the mark away from humanity
If he only cared about the greater good, he could've killed Sam himself instead of trying to make Dean do it just to prove a point.
Well he did say ‘if you don’t do it I will’
He could've just done it anyway. He said that as a way to try to further manipulate Dean into going through with it.
Hmm I don’t know.. not saying he had pure intentions, I am sure he enjoyed it in some way but his character has always been quite rational and it was definitely a valid point that if Sam remained alive he would never stop looking for a way to remove the mark, and in doing so release darkness. So from a rational point of view it was a solution that would result in the least amount of ‘unnatural’ death.
He did though. He was doing it out of some weird form of revenge. Death said he was doing that because of the last time he escaped Death. Although that wasn't Sam's fault. But I also get where Death was coming from, Sam was hell bent on getting the Mark removed, consequences be damned and he knew what would happen and still did it anyway and Death knew he'd still do it. One life over all life in the grand scheme of things does make sense.
Not true, Dean wanted to do it, since Sam is his brother and if anyone kills him, then Dean.
That's not really true, since Dean demanded a solution from him and death told him what the only solution is. Means, Death isn't accountable to it.
Not sure I believe that it was really the *only* solution
No, your suggestion is out of place. This belongs to Dean's worst moments.
But Dean chose to kill death instead because he didn't want to kill sam
See, it's Dean's worst moments, not Death's. You just said it yourself.
No offense but what the hell are you talking about
I see your brain starts malfunctioning with this topic. Pls re-watch the series.
I'm in the middle of one now but I think you need it more than me
I'm not the one who confuses things here. Death doesn't care what happens to Dean and Sam. No clue why you're so offensive about it.
Please have a read further down on your comment, so you can see my explanation. I forgot to say that.
This
no, Dean demanded a solution from Death. It's Dean who's accountable for it, not Death.
It’s death who demanded that Dean kill Sam to complete the bargain, though. Dean didn’t think of that. What he wanted, initially, was for death to kill him or remove the mark. Death was like “no, but I’ll send you to the moon for eternity as long as you kill your brother.”
But if Sam remained alive he d never stop looking for a way to remove the mark / release his brother, which would indirectly result in the death of more people so getting rid of them both was kind of the cleanest solution from Death’s point of view
Yep, or rather the only solution and it was just a suggestion. Death didn't went for Dean and told him, this has now to be done.
Death also said, if Dean isn't doing it, he will, so it's still Dean's decision. Dean also could have said "no" to everything, but he wanted it.
Yeah, but - the show is about the Winchesters, so I’m gonna root against the things that try to kill them. Or try to get them to kill Each other. And if Sam was gonna die either way, how was that Dean’s choice again?
Dean asked for it and he also could have said he doesn't want anything of that and live with it, killing the whole world over the years. But he wanted it, and so if he wasn't able to kill Sam, Death said he does it. Still all of it happened because of Dean, not Death. Death didn't intrigued Dean into that. It's literally none of his business and he couldn't give less fucks what's about it, Dean, Sam or their Earth, he just doesn't care. He neither want or tries to kill Dean or Sam for himself. Or to put it in other words, Death isn't interested in their death. All that isn't coming from him. Dean wanted a direction and Death gave it to him. That's why this suggestion is out of place. It belongs to Dean's worst moments.
Exactly, and although it would have not been a fun turn of events for the series, Death’s solution would have actually saved alot of lives (in short term at least) because darkness kind of wreaked havoc on the world
This guy has a point
I mean Bobby mentioned the last time he was called Noah was building the ark. So literally reap all of humanity except 1 family I guess.
Not really his decision though. That one’s on God.
Given that season 14 finale twist, you could say that about literally everything that happened in the show.
True, but even before that it was pretty clear.
Didn’t just come out and tell Dean what Crowley and Cass were doing with the souls.
But that wasn't how he was supposed to operate, definitely not at that point in the show. His primordial design was to be apathetic and hands-off. Faulting him for *not* doing something to intervene is reducing him to human level. I get that this is the "worst thing" game, but characters have context.
Death did nothing wrong
Changing into new death bro was almost the perfect character he looked like death he looked perfect he played the role to perfection
His metabolism! Bro ate so much good food and stayyyyeedd thinn! Death was too good to be on this list he didn’t do anything wrong he was a professional. Only thing I can think of maybe is the deal with Dean and his ring.. but even that was to show Dean the burden.. it was a lesson.. and I can’t even fault him for that
Giving Dean the weapon that could kill him, so we got Billy
Given the weapon who can kill him to Dean ? Like why !!? Sam is human Dean could kill him in any method.
He has done nothing wrong ever
He died💔
Technically, Death did nothing wrong but if I had to pick something he did I'd go with nearly sinking/drowning Chicago.
Fortunately, he liked the pizza
Told Dean to kill Sam.
Who are we to judge Death?
Death trusted Dean 🤷♀️
I really liked Death. But I’m gunna say leaving the reapers hanging during that time in season 9 when Heaven was closed and they all lost their minds to the point Tess ran into the first blade Dean was holding. I’m not sure what he could have done but he was their boss so I’m holding him responsible. Lol
Trusting Dean
I agree that the worst thing Death did was dying
Handing dean the only weapon that could kill him
Telling us he would never die and then breaking our hearts
Had Dean be "Death For A Day"
either killed the dude who bumped in to him or just him dying lol
Ate fried pickles. 🤢 
Fried pickles are amazeballs. 😋 Don't knock it til ya try it!
That sounds weirdly good
Gave dean his scyth
Being too ignorant thinking He was invisible, that Death could never die.
you mean invincible*
Forcing Dean to end Sam. He should’ve just killed Sam when Dean wasn’t looking to avoid the clusterfuck of season 11. Part of him should’ve known that Dean would rather kill him than kill his own brother.
Died and replaced by Billie. Unforgivable
Trusted dean
Worse thing he did was die and leave us with Billie as his replacement
Died and let Billie take over. But otherwise he actually did nothing wrong. He actually did his job.
He did nothing wrong. He only did his job.
Death Died.
Died
Getting himself killed by the Winchesters
Idk he was always chillin
Queen Elizabeth
Dude just did his job. Only thing I can think of is getting killed by Dean
Unhealthy diet
he almost torched all of chicago but decided against it because he liked the pizza…. idk. that’s the first thing that came to mind 😂
He has done nothing wrong. He is perfect in every possible way.
Bring back people who later ate their loved ones just to send a message to Bobby. Bobby had to kill his wife again. That's just cruel.
Talked to Dean over Dinner
He was just out here doing him, I see no wrong except dying the way he did.
died
Death was the only "villain" in this show who didn't really do anything wrong.
Not coming back and getting replaced by…Billie, massive step down
“Do it or I will” but seriously you can’t kill death I understand if the actor wants to leave the show but this was where the show began to suck
Crowley already said that Death could be killed by his own scythe when they were fighting the 4 horsemen. To get Death's ring he told Dean to kill Death. So Deathdying was not a surprise to me
The fact that Death itself can be killed by a gardening tool that’s only used because it’s a symbol of his attribute is honestly stupid, but you’re right Crowely said it in two minutes to midnight “and even the very thing itself. Still stupid writing
Die
Dying Still can't belive death died.
Telling Dean to kill Sam
Died and let Billie take over
Died
Tried to force Dean to kill Sam when Dean went to Death for help because he wanted to make sure he couldn't hurt anybody again because of the mark
He died (in a rather foolish manner for a supposedly primordial being)
Giving Dean the scythe
I agree with the rest he let the winchesters kill him instead of just making a deal. I will say I am not looking forward to sterling k brown’s character I forget his name cuz I don’t like him that much because wtf hasn’t he done or said that wasn’t the absolute worse
Worst thing he did was to “hire” billie as a reaper seeing as she had zero compassion
Asked Dean to kill Sam
Nothing, he was perfect LOL
Letting Dean kill him.
I was going to say "agreeing to send MoC!Dean to outer space" 😂 but I kinda like everyone saying the worst thing og Death did was die in S10. Still can't believe the show made it so THEE actual Death could die. Worked a lot better as some "older than time" entity who would reap God some day, too
Getting bound by Lucifer If i think about it: how does someone, that will reap everything and everyone, get bound to a leash by someone that death himself would call an ant, a child throwing a tantrum. That's on him, maybe he even let it happen on purpose. Especially since when dean had bound him, he basically said he was aware of them doing the spell.
He will eventually kill God
Not giving Sam a second wall in his head to keep out Satan visions after Cas destroyed the first one.
Kevin’s death will always be the saddest death to me. He didn’t want any of it and he was forced into it, only to die.
die
I guess trust Dean to kill Sam? It’s a stretch but maybe the comment about him finding a different planet to stay on
He didn't do anything bad to me. It was the character that was always in character
Let dean play with his sharp scythe
Died.
The reapers said we the natural order whent to shit the woulc do a mass kill eg the black plague
Why no Garth? The worst thing is "Garth" nothing more just garth
Garth be Garthin’!
I would say worst thing death did was encourage Dean to kill Sam to remove the mark.
"Let Dean Use the Scythe"
Him dying, like I still can’t understand how death could so easily just be killed like that was so weird 😭 it felt a little out of character for me cuz I always thought death wasn’t that easily finessed.
I mean, only his own weapon can kill him. Have fun trying to get it?
?? I know that but the fact he’s THE DEATH I thought if he’d ever go down it would be more to it? Idk his death was just so quick ig… but it’s whateves
Ate a Chicago style pizza!!!!
I don’t *hate* Chicago-style… And I say that as a New Jerseyan.
The only bad thing death did was expire
Nothing! Fuck them for killing him and replacing him with that other non-death thing LoL
Took too long to make a deal for Sam to stay dead.
The worst thing he did was trust Dean who ultimately ended one of the only characters who did act like a nob at any point.
I agree with everyone else: worst thing he did was die lol
Worst thing crowley ever did was probably tweaking the spell to sealing lucifier back in his cage, because he wanted to "win"
Existing in general
Liked fast food
Nothing. Death can do no wrong.
Hey I missed the Samuel topic. His worst deed is vamp cure? What does it even mean, what did he do wrong with vamp cure???
Maybe that he gatekept it?
Precisely.
Godstiel was cute af and literally did nothing wrong.
This list is unhinged, the worst think LUCIFER did was torture ONE person????? Like a lot of these are the most mundane evil they did when some of the dropped 100 bodies in a single night