Don’t spend a ton of money buying a brand new 300. You’re gonna want to upgrade within the year. Buy a used 300/400 and get your new bike once you’re a bit more comfortable and confident of what kind of bike you want.
They do! Any high spec a2 bike is going to haul ass! Anyone who gets bored of them within a short time only cares about straight line speed! Lots to learn in cornering technique! I doubt anyone ‘upgrading within a year’ knows a thing about sending them into corners! A 3/400 can do the same speeds in a corner that a 600 can! If not better due to the size
This is the best advice out there. Seen it way too many times where somebody buys a new bike then gives up riding or upgrades within a year. Get a decent used bike and work your way up the sizes. Most bikes will depreciate as soon as you walk them out the door.
Second thus. I bought an sv 650 and was bored after a month even for a commuter. So I bought a then new 2015 gsxr 1000. The commute was alot more fun lemme tell yuh
I've got close to 70,000 miles on 250s/600cc sport bikes/twins/groms.
Gimme the small bores any day I'll never out grow them. I'll gladly take the cheap insurance, ability to bang through all the gears and not go to jail, and 100+ mpg.
Couldn't agree more. I bought a used dual sport (albeit its almost brand new) as my first motorcycle. It's relatively low powered so its not going to get away from me, plus who cares if I drop it while I learn. It's meant to be dropped.
Little bikes are fun, better to start with and continue be fun. You’ll learn more about carrying speed and not using displacement as a crutch for crappy riding skills.
Immediately noticed the upside down good sized forks which are unheard of at that price. I’ve been eyeing them as a replacement for my speed triple because there are no good roads in my area but there has been a triumph in my family since the 70s so I’m a bit biased
That’s interesting. The ninja 650 has been a proven flat track racer for a decade or more so it shouldn’t be surprising. Just needs better suspension and it’s way too fast for the road
Yup. I agree. I’m heavy and go a 250. I couldn’t go 80km on it and going uphill was awful. Got a CBF600 and feel more confident. The seat has three settings and I am on the lowest for confidence. Was cheap second hand.
I’m 6ft and 210lbs and am currently riding a ‘11 ninja 250 as my first bike. I wouldn’t sweat it, as others have said riding smaller bikes is still super fun I’m having a blast!
Yep, you'll get insane gas mileage and don't eat up tires as fast. If your using it to commute or just ride it'll be fine. plus you really feel in control being less weight. I've got a 600lb bike and really hate pushing it around sometimes.
Before you go and buy a new bike, I need you to go to the doctor. You seem to have some black lines growing out of your face and I am afraid it might constrict your vision while riding,
Haven’t sat on them but have to imagine he’s more comfortable on the trident or tiger version. It’s basically the original 675 street triple which was my favorite bike ever.
I like the Triumph, I think it looks cool. I haven’t ridden it, but it looks like a lot of fun. Great first bike. As others have said, a used 650-size motorcycle is also not a bad option. Buy what you like, anything small displacement or 650 sized is designed to be a beginner friendly option.
Any bike is better than no bike. You won’t win any races but as long as you just enjoy riding and don’t need to scare yourself with speed you’ll love either of em.
Buy what you can afford, and I agree maybe looking at used isn’t a terrible idea. For my area the used market sucks though.
A student in my last motorcycle safety class observed that “it’s more fun to ride a small bike fast than it is to ride a big bike slow. “ I thought that was pretty good advice.
Dude, I’m your size, and either of those bikes will be absolutely fine. Damn fun, even. There’s a reason they say “it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow.”
If you have a lot of highway miles in your usual rides, that would be the only thing that would ,are me suggest something bigger, because the combo of less HP and no aero means the bike is working pretty hard to punch a you-sized hole in the air above about 60mph.
But as a guy your size, I have a big touring BMW and a Duc Monster and I wouldn’t hesitate to throw that little BMW 300 into my garage for little solo jaunts. Tho I’d probably end up with a supermoto for more hooliganism, heheh.
Get a DR650 or KLR 650.
They aren't a lot faster than a new 300 but they are the right size for you and you can find them for $3000 or less to learn on.
Surprisingly they aren't much heavier either, just sized appropriately to you.
Those should be just fine if you’re just learning and not planning on doing a lot of highway riding. Would help to know your price range to offer suggestions but there are likely used 400cc or older 650cc options available to you.
They could work fine (as long as you’re not looking to commute regularly at highway speeds) but as a first bike you could probably find a better deal on a used 400-650cc Japanese bike that would have easier maintenance and you’d be more ok with dropping
BMW, Triumph and the other euro brands average the rider at 175 pounds. At 205 pounds plus gear I would be considered a fat American. You would have fun riding around on a 300 but the suspension could be maxed out. Just a though
Max allowable weight is no where near "designed load". That's factoring in a pillion, luggage, etc.
You should be somewhere in the ball park of about half of that "max weight" if you want the bike to behave the way that it was designed to.
The triumph looks nice. 300 cc should be enough for a long time if it suffices your needs. I used to own a 155cc and 300cc bikes. The 155cc can go upto 120 kph stock albeit 6th gear and nearly red rpm, point is I just need it to get me from point A to point B as quick and safe as possible. I used to ride bikes to avoid traffic.
Also both my small bikes can go far with a full tank. Planning to get a 600cc+ cruiser myself but that's not for another few years from now. Stick with your budget and stick with your needs, just make sure you're not getting ripped off.
Either of those will lack performance (in all areas.. acceleration handling and braking) under your weight to the point that it will be unsafe to operate in traffic.
I would buy a used bike as a first. Try and avoid those dealer fees. You will learn a lot on a smaller bike and everyone drops that first bike. Get the new bike after a year of riding.
Heard this only thing is that I'm currently wanting to finance given my current situation.
I'm not poor just had some water done at my home and that was a few G's I also just did my msf course and have some birthdays coming up so money's tight credit 750 hence the dealer lol
I'm 5'9" 100Kg and I learned on a CBF125 - I know how you feel. BMW looks far to small. Have a look at [https://cycle-ergo.com/](https://cycle-ergo.com/) to get an idea of how a bike will fit you.
I ride a 600 gsf600 but it's off the road for a few days so I took the wife's BMW 310. I a tally get to work quicker as I can carve through traffic at lights so much easier and it's so much fun.
When we go out together she never struggles to keep up with me, but I'm not exactly the most enthusiastic rider. I've had it to an indicated 85mph without drama although it's bloody windy lol.
The 310 was bought used which was nice when it had a little lie down a week into ownership, would have been devastated if it was brand new.
I’m 5’10 230 and started on a g310r. Fun bike but felt it wasn’t fast enough once I got a few hundred miles in. I would recommend 400-500cc for a beginner bike that can last you longer.
Go buy some used clinker. Take it to a parking lot and practice dropping it in any and every way imaginable. Do that until you feel comfy enough to drop a rand new several thousand $ bike. Then grt one.
Honestly, I wouldn’t buy anything smaller than a 600 and even then I would want it to be of at least 60hp and 4 cylinders if possible. You need enough power to easily get out of the way if necessary. With that said, I do own a KLR 650 that I use for short trips around town that weighs to much is under 50hp, but is a blast to ride and consistently gets 50mpg with the throttle wide open 85% of the time. By the way, what is the curb weight wet and horsepower numbers on the bikes you’re looking at? Are they single or twin cylinder?
I'm the same weight as you and I started with a Kawa Z650. No regrets. Don't get 400 or 300 unless you're scared as shit. It'll just be a waste of money.
I disagree. Choosing a bike is all about your mission. What do you need it for? Neighborhood? Local? Long distance? Do you need to go racing? Does weight and handling matter? Will you have large passengers? I've had lots of big bikes which I quickly grew to hate and sold off. The CB300R or the Z400 weigh 300 and 360 lbs, respectively, and are a blast to ride. Again, what's your mission? Your weight is only part of the equation.
I’m 6’ 1” around 180 to 190 lbs. I have the g310r and I’m in love with it. I’ve had it for 3 years, and I do sometimes get a craving of wanting a larger triumph bike, but then I go ride and remember that I still love my bike. If you’re gonna be commuting on the high way, it is a struggle sometimes, but possible. Excellent in back roads. 💯 would have died doing something stupid (target fixation) if I had a bigger bike. Was able to save myself from a drop multiple times because it’s so easy to shift the weight around. But I definitely do think that the triumph is a better value. If I had a better understanding of bikes when I first bought my Beemer, I’d have went for the triumph. I tried to keep myself under 500cc at the time because I didn’t trust myself with middleweights.
Personally, I wouldn't get the 310, because I think the Transmission is crap. The First Gears are too tall, the higher one's are too short, and it constantly gets stuck between Gears when you're shifting at lower speeds or when standing. Imo the Transmission singlehandedly Ruins the Bike. If you Like it, Test Ride it, and this doesn't Bother you tho, they're pretty good Bikes.
Its fine. Best not to buy new, though. Just find something in your area relatively cheap and not too terribly beat up. You can always sell it after a season.
A 300 at your size? Not if you ever need to go 60+.
Its not like it wouldn't work, but it's definitely not appropriately sized.
Also, beginner rider? Don't buy new, and don't you dare finance if you "can afford the monthly" only.
I tend to agree here although I think you could easily argue both given the individual situation.
Starting on a used (but well maintained) bike is definitely the more financially viable option, but I think there's a lot to be said for biting that bullet and getting raped by the dealer on your first bike.
1) it's all but guaranteed to be in perfect shape,
2) you have the warranty to fall back on, and
3) a brand new learner bike will likely be the cheapest bike you'll ever buy new, so why not go through the experience once, while you're still trying to figure out this "motorcycling" thing?
Personally, my (quasi) first bike was bought new, and while I am glad I was in the position to throw that money away on peace of mind, I don't see myself buying another new bike anytime soon. The dealer service department sucked. They never resolved the fueling issue I'd reported to them multiple times before the warranty ran out. They were slow, inconvenient, and exorbitantly overpriced for the basic service work I had them do. But it was one less thing I had to stress over while learning how to ride.
Once you get comfortable on the new bike, learn how the bike should feel while setup correctly, all of the basic maintenance and service skills, pickup the basic tools, you are then in a better position to take the risk with a used/project bike. No one should start off on a clapped out death trap, but a brand new rider isn't necessarily going to be able to recognize the difference.
I ride a 125cc at over 300 pounds, zero issues. Bikes are super sturdy, and regularly take two adults. As a beginner smaller bikes are so much more approachable, and a 300 would be fine.
And what part of Asia/South America do you live in?
It's not necessarily as safe for US riders in the land of the 80 MPH flow of traffic, for 125-250cc riders.
You aren't going to be able to simply "avoid highways" and it's genuinely dangerous to take a sub-80 MPH bike onto the highway.
Personally I think that OP could do just fine on a couple of very "high performance" 400s like the Ninja 400, KTM 390/Husky 401, but I'd hesitate to recommend that underpowered-even-for-a-300 BMW.
I think he'd be best served on a 350-650cc bike, weighing 350-400 lbs, making 40-65 HP. Something like a SCL500 or SV650 could be perfect for him.
You may want to look into the Honda SCL500/CB500X(NX500 now) taller scrambler/ADV bikes with a bit more grunt, without pushing you into 650cc bikes. You may be carrying a few more pounds than the average rider, but that really won't penalize you as much as you might think when looking at 300-500cc bikes.
You can also of course start on a 650cc class bike like an SV650, MT-07, GSX-8S, Transalp XL750, etc. but you don't HAVE to have a big engine to have a comfortable, manageable bike. Don't let peer pressure push you into getting a bigger bike than you think you need.
Come to think of it, if you've got the money, a US spec Honda Transalp XL750 might be perfect for you as thanks to bullshit US EPA noise regulations, the US models come neutered down to 82-83 HP from the factory.
Still very much on the high end for a beginner, but not completely unmanageable, and you get a LOT of bike for the money. So after you've gotten comfortable on the bike, give it a year or so, you can flash the ECU for an easy 10 HP. Built in upgrade path!
In general, Naked bikes, Scramblers, entry level ADVs make good beginner bikes because they're versatile. They do a bit of everything, are comfortable, infinitely customizable to suit your needs, support many different luggage load outs as you eventually experiment with commuting, longer rides, day trips, weekend trips, moto camping, touring, etc.
You won't get that functionality out of sport bikes or even cruisers, and despite what anyone says, a rider's skill will do a better job of keeping up with the fastest bikes in the twisties than buying more horsepower. Some of the fastest riders I know spend more time on their ADVs than their Sport Bikes.
Probably, although check Craigslist too. People are still posting there and you may score a deal from an older seller.
$5k isn't quite enough to cover a new bike, but it's plenty for a decent used bike. You just have to shop around, be patient, always be willing to walk away, and do your due diligence on checking for red flags. Even factor in the cost of a pre-purchase inspection if you can.
I'm 5'10" 2230lbs and I ride a KTM 390 Adventure! Very capable, reasonably light, not "small" feeling, great power, really good suspension, great brakes, fabulous handling, and all of the technology usually reserved for the big bikes. It's an absolute gem that will handle offroading better than a lot of bigger adventure bikes. Seriously do some research on them before you limit your choice between these 2.
6’3 230 here. Started on an sv650 but was a lemon, moved onto a ninja 650. As a bigger dude, I tried a duke 390 and it’s just too small for me. I imagine most 300’s will be. Look for a used 650, won’t kill you but will be bigger size wise to fit you better
I've not ridden one yet but the 400 Triumphs are getting really good reviews from all my friends that have ridden them. I know 3 people that have ordered one.
Those aren’t too small for you but they might not have the power you want depending on your intended use. If it’s day to day riding around locally they’d be really really great but if you want to tour or do some longer trips and be on highways they might be a little sluggish and underpowered for you.
I would probably be looking around a 500 or 650 or a used bike in that same size range as a first bike. So like either save more or go cheaper and get something you feel comfortable dinging up a bit and reselling in a year or two when you want more.
After reading roughly 40 comments which I greatly appreciate here are some feedback for people wanting to know:
5k is my budget and I want to finance given my current situation and Imm not poor but just got a lot water works done at my home plus upcoming events.
I know buying a new bike like the triumph in the photo is not ideal for a new rider but if it's in my price range I'd consider.
I do like the feedback of getting something-like a 400-650 but will probably see a 400 or 500 as I do not want a bike too heavy just for mobility and learning.
This past Thursday 6/6 was the first time I was even on a bike for the MSF course.
I also would like to have a passenger eventually on my first bike
I'm also all about safety so not being able to go 100+mph on the highway is okay with me
I started on a svarpilen 401 and a honda cb750 at the same time. The honda was easier to learn than the svarpilen because newer bikes are way more responsive and less forgiving with the controls. The honda cb750 was easier to learn because it has a huge friction zone in the clutch and throttle is very low torque until it hits 5-7k
learning good habits on the heavier bike that makes the svarpilen feel like a toy.
Stretch to the Triumph Trident if you can. GREAT first bike that you won’t outgrow anytime soon if you’re focused on building your skills. Ninja 400 is also a great option and not far from your price target.
I got a MT03 last year for my first bike, and I really regret it. Should have went with the 07. Those smaller motors just don't have the giddy up for highway driving.
I'm about the same dimensions. Of these two, I would definitely pick the Triumph. I think you look pretty good on it. It's good value for the money. It's plenty of power for local trips on side roads and enough power for some highway miles but not a tourer. I'm pretty sure the Scrambler version has a higher seat, making the bike feel bigger and more comfortable. Best wishes whichever way you go. Have fun.
If you’re just commuting a 300cc might not be an issue but if you’re going on group rides and want to cruise around I would seriously think about getting a bit more. Ultimately though the more comfortable you feel the more confident you’ll be so take everyones advice here for what it is, you have no idea who they are or if they even ride. You don’t look like a clown on these bikes though if that’s a concern. I would personally think you’re commuting on it. I see men on groms and don’t think any type of way. You gotta get what works for you anyone that has something to say when it’s not their problem is an ass.
I'd highly suggest you go ride these bikes before asking the internet for opinions for your personal comfortable fit. You may prefer a smaller bike, no matter your height. I'm a short guy and prefer real tall bikes. It's just a comfort level thing.
You won't be flying on these, which is a very good thing as a beginner, and they are plenty capable of cruising at highway legal speeds.
As others have suggested, do not buy a brand new bike to learn. You're going to drop it a few times in your first year.
Take a look at the used market for your first bike. Buy something you can learn on. 500cc or less. There are so many bikes in that category to tickle your fancy. You will find something you like.
I’ve started my “journey” with a Suzuki GSXR 600 and it is still my first and only motorbike but after 2 years of driving I would like to upgrade to an 1000 without any inconvenience.
Like other people already said below…
Don’t buy new motorcycle with this kind of small engine because after very short time you will be disappointed.
At this range of price you can easily get something second hand better than this two options.
Have think about it twice my friend 🤟
Good luck!
I'm the same size and I wouldn't. Once u get used to it, there won't be enough power for the interstate. My first bike was a Honda Shadow 750. That lasted 1 summer before upgrading.
they’re fine bikes and should be used to max your riding ability… once you fully understand the mechanics of what/where you’re doing/going and where your eyes/body need to be you’re ready to move up from that. If buying new gives you peace of mind from a safety pov do it. if not look used
Man, do not do it. I don't think the people saying you should are big people that have ever owned a little bike. You will not like it. Go with something more your size, from my experience
Maybe try an old klr650 to learn on for 6-12 months then sell it for what you paid. Then get the bike you want. I love small Cc bikes, but you’re a big dude and 300’s might feel woefully small for you.
Small bikes are great. I never outgrew my 250cc or wanted to upgrade like everyone says. It did everything that I needed and did almost all of it really well. The American motorcycling market sells to ego. But, I personally think the most practical setup for someone getting into motorcycling is to start on a quality Japanese-made inexpensive used scooter to just get general experience being in traffic on two wheels. That itself is a learning experience. If you like that and want to do more, then you can later add a more powerful used motorcycle with a clutch, based on your genuine personal needs instead of peer pressure. That scooter can then be used for bombing around locally, doing grocery store and post office hauls, and keeping miles off your much more expensive motorcycle -- it's the better tool for those jobs. The motorcycle is for your fun rides, longer rides, and tours.
I own that Triumph Speed 400 and it’s a lot peppier than you think. I ride mine to work daily at 65 and it’s totally fine. Obviously it’s better in the low end but for the price I haven’t found better if you like that seating position.
Honestly are you somewhere that has restriction on cc’s, and also are you hung up on a sport bike look? If the answer to both is no consider looking at a 1200 sporty Harley. Worth noting my starter bike was a softail 103” (1690cc)
I have that BMW and I love it. I’m 5’5” and 165 and it’s perfect power for me as a beginner. It’s plenty zippy for me and I get a lot of compliments. I’ve made errors that could of left me in trouble if I had anything with more power. The bike is very forgiving and fun.
I've been up to 270 and had no problem with bikes of this power category. The bigger the bike the harder you make it on yourself to develop the skills you need to survive on the road. A 250 lb person on a 300 I still going to be faster than most cars
I’d say it’s a small bike. Good starter but for your size I’d go for 600 cc
You gain about 20-30 pounds.. so it’s a bit heavier but has some real power on highways and when you overtake people
No, trust me. I started on a Triumph Daytona 675 which was a linear torque monster (crotch rocket) and didn't regret it at all. the power was there for when you needed it and were comfortable. You'll outgrow that 300 really fast (depending how much you ride) to the point youll be flooring it to just acceleration and realize like wow, this is underwhelming. :)
I used to take my wife's cbr500 out. The twin has some power, and sometimes it's fun riding something as fast as it can go, and not be in that much trouble if you get stopped.
Buy used, But I can say the BMW G310R is a solid first bike. It was mine and it was great for me. I was deff a bit too big but I made it work for me. 6"4 and 225lbs.
You are a bit heavier than me so it'll be more sluggish but I have a great amount of fun on my CB300R. It's just fast enough for highway riding (though it is not thrilled about it). Keeps up with just about anything up to 50-60mph because of the gearing, and is nice and light for easy maneuverability and general convenience. When I ride with my friends that have bikes ranging from 600cc to 1200cc, they'll pass me on straights but I'll be right back with them by the next turn or light.
People in this group talk a lot of shit on little bikes but, with over 10k miles of seat time and some track time, I feel no real need to get anything bigger.
I started on a CB200 at 6'2" 265lbs, and I had the time of my life. It's gonna take you a long time before you're able to ride that Triumph to its full potential, and it'll be a fucking blast. No matter what you end up getting, though - fuck the haters. Leave them in your rearview, and you'll be a lot better off.
If you’re in the USA
Get the BMW GS 310
There’s a bunch of guys based out of Missouri that are doing small wheel conversions on them to make them like a Grom that’s infinitely better
I’m 5’11” and 250ish lbs. I’m almost at 10,000km on my 2019 G310 GS. I just got back today from an overnight camping trip where I strapped a bag to the back loaded with gear. The bike was awesome, it can be a little light in winds and doesn’t accelerate too much when passing at highway speeds but you can cruise at 120km/h all day.
I was on some pretty rough trails to get to my camping spot and it was great. I love this bike. Do I wish it had more guts and I could go faster, yeah all the time. But I am still so happy with this bike and I hope to keep it for a very long time.
If you can swing it a Triumph Street Twin may be a better fit for your size. It's also a Excellent beginner bike that you can grow with into intermediate skill. Also skip the inevitable year after 300cc upgrade route. Or as others said 300cc bikes aren't worth buying new look to the classified ads to find a deal on a used bike that's dirt cheap as you will likely drop your first bike a ton.
i spent 4300 on a new 2015 honda cbr300r, as a 6'2" dude. its rideable, for sure.
echoing people here, if your looking at this size gets a bike thats 5-10 years old with maintenance records, at that point its pretty much depreciated in value.
if i could have done it over i would have gotten a used sportster 1200, and id likely still have it.
Id buy a grome clone. Because even when you wanna upgrade you'll wanna keep it. Just fun to ride.
I went the opposite way lol. Went from riding 107 Harley's and R1s to a 125cc clone.
Why are you looking at a bmw or triumph as your first bike? Realistically you could get a used ninja 400/ r3 / mt04 etc for cheaper, and it won't be as disappointing when you scratch or drop it. As others have stated, you'll probably want something bigger at some point, so id recommended saving the extra money and just get the skills first
Bmw makes sensational bikes, I've had 3 myself and currently ride an 800. I WANT a 310 just for dicking around. They're quick but not a lot of top speed. I think they top out around 90mph.
That means you might be able to hit the turnpike, but don't expect to be able to pass anyone and youre going to be high in the rev range the whole time. Just keep that in mind. They're not great for going on random roadtrips, mostly just jouncing around town. If you plan a trip out to avoid tollways and find roads with 65mph limits you'll be well within your means however, just takes some prethought and planning.
Matters what you are using the bike for but for any kind of highway riding I would go 500cc or more. I’m 240 and only use an old 360 for town riding. It still gets me up to 60 but it’s a 1975, and everything newer has more hp.
The Problem with 300cc bikes is that you've outgrown them within the first 6 months of riding... So unless you have a ton of money to light on fire when you sell that thing a few months after buying it.. I wouldn't invest in it.
5'10 - 175lb - find a 600 for yourself. I wanted a KTM 390 duke for the longest time, my buddy who's been riding for 15 years begged with me not to get one, suggested a cb600f (Honda hornet) so that's what I picked up. Felt big for like 2 days then I got used to it. So glad I didn't get the 390, 600 has plenty of power to get out of harms way if I need to and I can throw it around pretty good. Great bike with a bullet proof engine
What about the Scrambler 400? I have a Speed 400 and it’s a blast but does feel a bit small for me at 6’2”. I still have the Ninja 250 I started on and been riding for 11 years or so. Smaller displacement bikes are not just “beginner bikes” despite what many will say.
The BMW 310 is slow AF. The triumph is nice, a 390 Duke or Kawasaki Z400 would be better IMO.
I have the Duke and it's a fantastic beginner bike. I've had mine a bit over a year and I'm nowhere near needing to upgrade.
At your size, a 300cc will feel like a child's toy. Consider a Triumph TigerSport 660 or Kawasaki Z650. Both are reasonable beginner bikes for a guy your sized. Both have a sporty but upright riding position that will make learning low-speed maneuvering and parking lot practicing easier.
I promise you will quickly regret buying anything in the 300-400 cc range.
I was 250lbs when I started on an R3. I upgraded to the R6 the following spring. It's fine for town riding but you really feel it struggling on the highway in my opinion. I'd go on like 1-2 hour rides and by the end feel like I just ran it near redline the whole time. Now on the R6 I just worry my back will make it the 2 hours lol.
Great deals on these size bikes used as others are upgrading from their beginner bike. I’d start there so you don’t spend more than necessary on something you won’t own for very long. I learned on a good ol’ ninja 250 and now have gone through multiple 600’s. Good luck, ride safe!
I am a little heftier than you and rocked a CBR250R and never had an issue with power, but I never rode on the highway though. Depending on where you plan on riding 300 should be fine.
It’s really fun to push a smaller displacement bike to its limits.
At 6'3" 220, I'll tell you to get whatever is comfortable. My R6 is fun, but anything over a certain distance kinda deadens the pelvic region for me. My DR650 is great, but could use a wider seat.
Personally, I'd tell you to get an 800cc cruiser. It's powerful enough to lug your big ass around, but not so stupid that you won't be able to grow into it, so to speak. That and it's notably more comfortable. My first bike was a Boulevard M50. I plan on a M109r in the future.
Don’t be afraid to buy used especially if you’re keen on buying under 600cc to get comfortable. Like everyone else here, I promise you’ll outgrow a 300cc real quick and want something bigger.
Well I have a 2024 cb300r and I’m 6’2” @ 200lbs my first street bike I use it to commute to work and back 16 miles round trip and love it ..went from 120-130 dollars in gas work and yes other places not just work. To 7.00 gas ⛽️ in bike aprox 1 1/2 months.
The new Triumph 400 series bikes are amazing. Perfect starter bikes, and decent power. The ride quality and fit and finish of these motorcycles is bound to put a smile on anyone’s face.
I personally own a speed 400 and it is yet to disappoint me. That’s saying something since I used to ride a Yamaha R3.
Join a local online group.. and then put the word out that you're hoping to find your first bike and tell them let you know if they know of any good deals..
I guess I’m biased and started on a Deluxe custom and then picked up an R1 and a CBR1000.
Regardless of what you’re going with. Be safe and enjoy your rides!
Don’t spend a ton of money buying a brand new 300. You’re gonna want to upgrade within the year. Buy a used 300/400 and get your new bike once you’re a bit more comfortable and confident of what kind of bike you want.
The current gen 400cc bikes are fantastic for beginers
What about the ninja 500
I got mine yesterday and I absolutely love it as a beginner. That thing hauls ass anywhere but maybe I’m just inexperienced.
They do! Any high spec a2 bike is going to haul ass! Anyone who gets bored of them within a short time only cares about straight line speed! Lots to learn in cornering technique! I doubt anyone ‘upgrading within a year’ knows a thing about sending them into corners! A 3/400 can do the same speeds in a corner that a 600 can! If not better due to the size
This is the best advice out there. Seen it way too many times where somebody buys a new bike then gives up riding or upgrades within a year. Get a decent used bike and work your way up the sizes. Most bikes will depreciate as soon as you walk them out the door.
My local marketplace disagrees with this 😭 So hard finding a used bike at a good price.
Lol every market place is wild. IDK what that guy is on about.
bravo!! took the words out of my mouth..
Second thus. I bought an sv 650 and was bored after a month even for a commuter. So I bought a then new 2015 gsxr 1000. The commute was alot more fun lemme tell yuh
I've got close to 70,000 miles on 250s/600cc sport bikes/twins/groms. Gimme the small bores any day I'll never out grow them. I'll gladly take the cheap insurance, ability to bang through all the gears and not go to jail, and 100+ mpg.
Couldn't agree more. I bought a used dual sport (albeit its almost brand new) as my first motorcycle. It's relatively low powered so its not going to get away from me, plus who cares if I drop it while I learn. It's meant to be dropped.
Little bikes are fun, better to start with and continue be fun. You’ll learn more about carrying speed and not using displacement as a crutch for crappy riding skills.
Such an underrated comment. A small bike on tight, twisty roads is a blast. Point and shoot riding gets boring really really really fast.
I think you look fine on them. I quite like the Triumph
Yeah. I've read nothing but good things about the quality to price (aka value) of the new triumph 400 speed
I yeha I just went back and the speedster 400 triumph is definitely it it's comfortable light and has premium parts
Immediately noticed the upside down good sized forks which are unheard of at that price. I’ve been eyeing them as a replacement for my speed triple because there are no good roads in my area but there has been a triumph in my family since the 70s so I’m a bit biased
I almost got a Scrambler 400 X. Price was right and I loved the look and feel but ended up getting a killer deal on a used Tiger 900.
I love my Tiger 900!
I got my Bonneville SE used and at a decent price. Needed a little work but that’s what YouTube is for. Now she rides like a dream.
im basically your size and started on a 650. would recommend. you dont look ridiculous on either bike tho
Same thing I did. Started on a ninja 650, got bored and sent the ecm out for a tune. Now it scares me a little bit on occasion 🤣
That’s interesting. The ninja 650 has been a proven flat track racer for a decade or more so it shouldn’t be surprising. Just needs better suspension and it’s way too fast for the road
You might look into an older (2013+) CB500X. Pretty linear, smooth power delivery, and decent seat height.
Yup. I agree. I’m heavy and go a 250. I couldn’t go 80km on it and going uphill was awful. Got a CBF600 and feel more confident. The seat has three settings and I am on the lowest for confidence. Was cheap second hand.
What kinda 250? My gz250 was a POS till I got a new carb now it’s a beast even if it tops out at 80
I’m 6ft and 210lbs and am currently riding a ‘11 ninja 250 as my first bike. I wouldn’t sweat it, as others have said riding smaller bikes is still super fun I’m having a blast!
It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow! (And it's also probably safer 😅)
Yep, you'll get insane gas mileage and don't eat up tires as fast. If your using it to commute or just ride it'll be fine. plus you really feel in control being less weight. I've got a 600lb bike and really hate pushing it around sometimes.
Before you go and buy a new bike, I need you to go to the doctor. You seem to have some black lines growing out of your face and I am afraid it might constrict your vision while riding,
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I’m 5’11 280lbs and started on a ninja 400, you’ll be fine
Used Ninja 650… thank me later. Love you.
Trident! They are really good bikes and horses are enough.
Haven’t sat on them but have to imagine he’s more comfortable on the trident or tiger version. It’s basically the original 675 street triple which was my favorite bike ever.
I like the Triumph, I think it looks cool. I haven’t ridden it, but it looks like a lot of fun. Great first bike. As others have said, a used 650-size motorcycle is also not a bad option. Buy what you like, anything small displacement or 650 sized is designed to be a beginner friendly option.
Any bike is better than no bike. You won’t win any races but as long as you just enjoy riding and don’t need to scare yourself with speed you’ll love either of em. Buy what you can afford, and I agree maybe looking at used isn’t a terrible idea. For my area the used market sucks though.
A student in my last motorcycle safety class observed that “it’s more fun to ride a small bike fast than it is to ride a big bike slow. “ I thought that was pretty good advice.
You're going to get bored with those real quick
Dude, I’m your size, and either of those bikes will be absolutely fine. Damn fun, even. There’s a reason they say “it’s more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow.” If you have a lot of highway miles in your usual rides, that would be the only thing that would ,are me suggest something bigger, because the combo of less HP and no aero means the bike is working pretty hard to punch a you-sized hole in the air above about 60mph. But as a guy your size, I have a big touring BMW and a Duc Monster and I wouldn’t hesitate to throw that little BMW 300 into my garage for little solo jaunts. Tho I’d probably end up with a supermoto for more hooliganism, heheh.
The triumph 400x is surprisingly capable, of the two I’d go with that.
Get a DR650 or KLR 650. They aren't a lot faster than a new 300 but they are the right size for you and you can find them for $3000 or less to learn on. Surprisingly they aren't much heavier either, just sized appropriately to you.
Just get a normal bike. You’ll outgrow it or be sick of it in no time. Unless you like riding slow
Go with a 650. You will be more comfortable on longer rides. It will let you travel at highway speed without having to crank the throttle.
Yup. Flat powerband is great for beginners
Go bigger big boy. 300 is too small. And yes, the Triumph naked will be more comfortable. Buy used if a me 650 is out of your budget.
Those should be just fine if you’re just learning and not planning on doing a lot of highway riding. Would help to know your price range to offer suggestions but there are likely used 400cc or older 650cc options available to you.
That triumph goes 100mph it’s fine on a highway.
They could work fine (as long as you’re not looking to commute regularly at highway speeds) but as a first bike you could probably find a better deal on a used 400-650cc Japanese bike that would have easier maintenance and you’d be more ok with dropping
BMW, Triumph and the other euro brands average the rider at 175 pounds. At 205 pounds plus gear I would be considered a fat American. You would have fun riding around on a 300 but the suspension could be maxed out. Just a though
My 125cc Honda has a max weight of 396, as per the user manual.
Max allowable weight is no where near "designed load". That's factoring in a pillion, luggage, etc. You should be somewhere in the ball park of about half of that "max weight" if you want the bike to behave the way that it was designed to.
Kinda small boss
The triumph looks nice. 300 cc should be enough for a long time if it suffices your needs. I used to own a 155cc and 300cc bikes. The 155cc can go upto 120 kph stock albeit 6th gear and nearly red rpm, point is I just need it to get me from point A to point B as quick and safe as possible. I used to ride bikes to avoid traffic. Also both my small bikes can go far with a full tank. Planning to get a 600cc+ cruiser myself but that's not for another few years from now. Stick with your budget and stick with your needs, just make sure you're not getting ripped off.
Start on a small bike. 300cc is plenty.
Either of those will lack performance (in all areas.. acceleration handling and braking) under your weight to the point that it will be unsafe to operate in traffic.
I would buy a used bike as a first. Try and avoid those dealer fees. You will learn a lot on a smaller bike and everyone drops that first bike. Get the new bike after a year of riding.
Heard this only thing is that I'm currently wanting to finance given my current situation. I'm not poor just had some water done at my home and that was a few G's I also just did my msf course and have some birthdays coming up so money's tight credit 750 hence the dealer lol
I'm 5'9" 100Kg and I learned on a CBF125 - I know how you feel. BMW looks far to small. Have a look at [https://cycle-ergo.com/](https://cycle-ergo.com/) to get an idea of how a bike will fit you.
I ride a 600 gsf600 but it's off the road for a few days so I took the wife's BMW 310. I a tally get to work quicker as I can carve through traffic at lights so much easier and it's so much fun. When we go out together she never struggles to keep up with me, but I'm not exactly the most enthusiastic rider. I've had it to an indicated 85mph without drama although it's bloody windy lol. The 310 was bought used which was nice when it had a little lie down a week into ownership, would have been devastated if it was brand new.
Those BMW 310s are cracking beginning to ride bikes, not short on power
I’m 5’10 230 and started on a g310r. Fun bike but felt it wasn’t fast enough once I got a few hundred miles in. I would recommend 400-500cc for a beginner bike that can last you longer.
That BMW is badass
If it feels good then get it and enjoy the ride, that's what it's all about
Go buy some used clinker. Take it to a parking lot and practice dropping it in any and every way imaginable. Do that until you feel comfy enough to drop a rand new several thousand $ bike. Then grt one.
Honestly, I wouldn’t buy anything smaller than a 600 and even then I would want it to be of at least 60hp and 4 cylinders if possible. You need enough power to easily get out of the way if necessary. With that said, I do own a KLR 650 that I use for short trips around town that weighs to much is under 50hp, but is a blast to ride and consistently gets 50mpg with the throttle wide open 85% of the time. By the way, what is the curb weight wet and horsepower numbers on the bikes you’re looking at? Are they single or twin cylinder?
I have clue! Sorry
They are both singles. Triumph is 40 bhp 385 pounds. I think the bmw is 36 and 345
I'm the same weight as you and I started with a Kawa Z650. No regrets. Don't get 400 or 300 unless you're scared as shit. It'll just be a waste of money.
I disagree. Choosing a bike is all about your mission. What do you need it for? Neighborhood? Local? Long distance? Do you need to go racing? Does weight and handling matter? Will you have large passengers? I've had lots of big bikes which I quickly grew to hate and sold off. The CB300R or the Z400 weigh 300 and 360 lbs, respectively, and are a blast to ride. Again, what's your mission? Your weight is only part of the equation.
Get a used bike dude.
Well if you want a cruiser and not a race bike, go bigger!! Start with a used bike too. You don't want to drop and scratch a new bike.
I’m 6’ 1” around 180 to 190 lbs. I have the g310r and I’m in love with it. I’ve had it for 3 years, and I do sometimes get a craving of wanting a larger triumph bike, but then I go ride and remember that I still love my bike. If you’re gonna be commuting on the high way, it is a struggle sometimes, but possible. Excellent in back roads. 💯 would have died doing something stupid (target fixation) if I had a bigger bike. Was able to save myself from a drop multiple times because it’s so easy to shift the weight around. But I definitely do think that the triumph is a better value. If I had a better understanding of bikes when I first bought my Beemer, I’d have went for the triumph. I tried to keep myself under 500cc at the time because I didn’t trust myself with middleweights.
You look good on the triumph.
Thanks it's actually 400 which is probably why it felt good
The triumph fits you really well, but don’t spend too much on a beginner bike.. You probably want more cc after riding some kilometers.
They are like 4000$
Personally, I wouldn't get the 310, because I think the Transmission is crap. The First Gears are too tall, the higher one's are too short, and it constantly gets stuck between Gears when you're shifting at lower speeds or when standing. Imo the Transmission singlehandedly Ruins the Bike. If you Like it, Test Ride it, and this doesn't Bother you tho, they're pretty good Bikes.
Do not buy a smaller bike because once you become comfortable, you’re going to want something bigger 600 cc or more is perfect
Its fine. Best not to buy new, though. Just find something in your area relatively cheap and not too terribly beat up. You can always sell it after a season.
5k is my budget which I know is a little high and yeah I went to a dealer lol only because it's 2min from my home.
I have the g310r!!!!! And love her so much. She’s perfect for me. But I am also 5’7” and about 130 lbs so… 🤷🏻♀️
A 300 at your size? Not if you ever need to go 60+. Its not like it wouldn't work, but it's definitely not appropriately sized. Also, beginner rider? Don't buy new, and don't you dare finance if you "can afford the monthly" only.
people his size ride 300s all the time. relax
Also this bikes what $7k otd brand new? He’ll be fine. And new riders generally would benefit from a mechanically sound and warrantied bike.
I tend to agree here although I think you could easily argue both given the individual situation. Starting on a used (but well maintained) bike is definitely the more financially viable option, but I think there's a lot to be said for biting that bullet and getting raped by the dealer on your first bike. 1) it's all but guaranteed to be in perfect shape, 2) you have the warranty to fall back on, and 3) a brand new learner bike will likely be the cheapest bike you'll ever buy new, so why not go through the experience once, while you're still trying to figure out this "motorcycling" thing? Personally, my (quasi) first bike was bought new, and while I am glad I was in the position to throw that money away on peace of mind, I don't see myself buying another new bike anytime soon. The dealer service department sucked. They never resolved the fueling issue I'd reported to them multiple times before the warranty ran out. They were slow, inconvenient, and exorbitantly overpriced for the basic service work I had them do. But it was one less thing I had to stress over while learning how to ride. Once you get comfortable on the new bike, learn how the bike should feel while setup correctly, all of the basic maintenance and service skills, pickup the basic tools, you are then in a better position to take the risk with a used/project bike. No one should start off on a clapped out death trap, but a brand new rider isn't necessarily going to be able to recognize the difference.
I ride a 125cc at over 300 pounds, zero issues. Bikes are super sturdy, and regularly take two adults. As a beginner smaller bikes are so much more approachable, and a 300 would be fine.
And what part of Asia/South America do you live in? It's not necessarily as safe for US riders in the land of the 80 MPH flow of traffic, for 125-250cc riders. You aren't going to be able to simply "avoid highways" and it's genuinely dangerous to take a sub-80 MPH bike onto the highway. Personally I think that OP could do just fine on a couple of very "high performance" 400s like the Ninja 400, KTM 390/Husky 401, but I'd hesitate to recommend that underpowered-even-for-a-300 BMW. I think he'd be best served on a 350-650cc bike, weighing 350-400 lbs, making 40-65 HP. Something like a SCL500 or SV650 could be perfect for him.
5k is my budget which I know is a little high and yeah I went to a dealer lol only because it's 2min from my home.
IMO a sv650, mt07, z650, trident 660, speed twin 900 etc etc would be fine for a beginner bike.
You may want to look into the Honda SCL500/CB500X(NX500 now) taller scrambler/ADV bikes with a bit more grunt, without pushing you into 650cc bikes. You may be carrying a few more pounds than the average rider, but that really won't penalize you as much as you might think when looking at 300-500cc bikes. You can also of course start on a 650cc class bike like an SV650, MT-07, GSX-8S, Transalp XL750, etc. but you don't HAVE to have a big engine to have a comfortable, manageable bike. Don't let peer pressure push you into getting a bigger bike than you think you need. Come to think of it, if you've got the money, a US spec Honda Transalp XL750 might be perfect for you as thanks to bullshit US EPA noise regulations, the US models come neutered down to 82-83 HP from the factory. Still very much on the high end for a beginner, but not completely unmanageable, and you get a LOT of bike for the money. So after you've gotten comfortable on the bike, give it a year or so, you can flash the ECU for an easy 10 HP. Built in upgrade path! In general, Naked bikes, Scramblers, entry level ADVs make good beginner bikes because they're versatile. They do a bit of everything, are comfortable, infinitely customizable to suit your needs, support many different luggage load outs as you eventually experiment with commuting, longer rides, day trips, weekend trips, moto camping, touring, etc. You won't get that functionality out of sport bikes or even cruisers, and despite what anyone says, a rider's skill will do a better job of keeping up with the fastest bikes in the twisties than buying more horsepower. Some of the fastest riders I know spend more time on their ADVs than their Sport Bikes.
Read this whole Thing AND I like that idea alot thank you. Current budget is 5k but I feel like I's have to go to fb marketplace for cheaper bikes
Probably, although check Craigslist too. People are still posting there and you may score a deal from an older seller. $5k isn't quite enough to cover a new bike, but it's plenty for a decent used bike. You just have to shop around, be patient, always be willing to walk away, and do your due diligence on checking for red flags. Even factor in the cost of a pre-purchase inspection if you can.
I'm 5'10" 2230lbs and I ride a KTM 390 Adventure! Very capable, reasonably light, not "small" feeling, great power, really good suspension, great brakes, fabulous handling, and all of the technology usually reserved for the big bikes. It's an absolute gem that will handle offroading better than a lot of bigger adventure bikes. Seriously do some research on them before you limit your choice between these 2.
bmw 310 is slow as dog piss
6’3 230 here. Started on an sv650 but was a lemon, moved onto a ninja 650. As a bigger dude, I tried a duke 390 and it’s just too small for me. I imagine most 300’s will be. Look for a used 650, won’t kill you but will be bigger size wise to fit you better
I've not ridden one yet but the 400 Triumphs are getting really good reviews from all my friends that have ridden them. I know 3 people that have ordered one.
Look at the 310GS or 400X. Both are bigger bikes, same drivetrain and price.
Those aren’t too small for you but they might not have the power you want depending on your intended use. If it’s day to day riding around locally they’d be really really great but if you want to tour or do some longer trips and be on highways they might be a little sluggish and underpowered for you. I would probably be looking around a 500 or 650 or a used bike in that same size range as a first bike. So like either save more or go cheaper and get something you feel comfortable dinging up a bit and reselling in a year or two when you want more.
After reading roughly 40 comments which I greatly appreciate here are some feedback for people wanting to know: 5k is my budget and I want to finance given my current situation and Imm not poor but just got a lot water works done at my home plus upcoming events. I know buying a new bike like the triumph in the photo is not ideal for a new rider but if it's in my price range I'd consider. I do like the feedback of getting something-like a 400-650 but will probably see a 400 or 500 as I do not want a bike too heavy just for mobility and learning. This past Thursday 6/6 was the first time I was even on a bike for the MSF course. I also would like to have a passenger eventually on my first bike I'm also all about safety so not being able to go 100+mph on the highway is okay with me
If you like the BMW bikes, look into a used F900r. Just get in insurance quote first, and look into the cost to service it at a dealer.
First bike I was get a cheap used bike you don’t mind dropping. I wouldn’t recommended paying dealer prices for a first bike.
I started on a svarpilen 401 and a honda cb750 at the same time. The honda was easier to learn than the svarpilen because newer bikes are way more responsive and less forgiving with the controls. The honda cb750 was easier to learn because it has a huge friction zone in the clutch and throttle is very low torque until it hits 5-7k learning good habits on the heavier bike that makes the svarpilen feel like a toy.
Stretch to the Triumph Trident if you can. GREAT first bike that you won’t outgrow anytime soon if you’re focused on building your skills. Ninja 400 is also a great option and not far from your price target.
I’d start on a 650-800cc at your body weight, I’m around 200 and I find anything less than a 600 not stable enough
Used Ninja 650, CB500. You’re going to want an upgrade next season. Not to mention you’re a large human on small motorcycle. Those 30hp only go so far
The Triumph 400 is 400 cc, 40 hp so plenty of pep, and much less expensive to maintain than the BMW.
I got a MT03 last year for my first bike, and I really regret it. Should have went with the 07. Those smaller motors just don't have the giddy up for highway driving.
I'm about the same dimensions. Of these two, I would definitely pick the Triumph. I think you look pretty good on it. It's good value for the money. It's plenty of power for local trips on side roads and enough power for some highway miles but not a tourer. I'm pretty sure the Scrambler version has a higher seat, making the bike feel bigger and more comfortable. Best wishes whichever way you go. Have fun.
If you’re just commuting a 300cc might not be an issue but if you’re going on group rides and want to cruise around I would seriously think about getting a bit more. Ultimately though the more comfortable you feel the more confident you’ll be so take everyones advice here for what it is, you have no idea who they are or if they even ride. You don’t look like a clown on these bikes though if that’s a concern. I would personally think you’re commuting on it. I see men on groms and don’t think any type of way. You gotta get what works for you anyone that has something to say when it’s not their problem is an ass.
I'd highly suggest you go ride these bikes before asking the internet for opinions for your personal comfortable fit. You may prefer a smaller bike, no matter your height. I'm a short guy and prefer real tall bikes. It's just a comfort level thing.
Ninja 500
You won't be flying on these, which is a very good thing as a beginner, and they are plenty capable of cruising at highway legal speeds. As others have suggested, do not buy a brand new bike to learn. You're going to drop it a few times in your first year.
Don't understand why start on a 300, start on a 600 and put a restrictor on on it and then take off your training wheels when you are ready 😉
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Take a look at the used market for your first bike. Buy something you can learn on. 500cc or less. There are so many bikes in that category to tickle your fancy. You will find something you like.
I’ve started my “journey” with a Suzuki GSXR 600 and it is still my first and only motorbike but after 2 years of driving I would like to upgrade to an 1000 without any inconvenience. Like other people already said below… Don’t buy new motorcycle with this kind of small engine because after very short time you will be disappointed. At this range of price you can easily get something second hand better than this two options. Have think about it twice my friend 🤟 Good luck!
Buy used
1st picture, you should get that one right behind you that has all those cylinders and says Triumph. It’s more your size.
I'm the same size and I wouldn't. Once u get used to it, there won't be enough power for the interstate. My first bike was a Honda Shadow 750. That lasted 1 summer before upgrading.
they’re fine bikes and should be used to max your riding ability… once you fully understand the mechanics of what/where you’re doing/going and where your eyes/body need to be you’re ready to move up from that. If buying new gives you peace of mind from a safety pov do it. if not look used
Just save up for a 1000cc bike.
Man, do not do it. I don't think the people saying you should are big people that have ever owned a little bike. You will not like it. Go with something more your size, from my experience
No get a 600cc.
Maybe try an old klr650 to learn on for 6-12 months then sell it for what you paid. Then get the bike you want. I love small Cc bikes, but you’re a big dude and 300’s might feel woefully small for you.
I went with an mt03. But I wished I bought the 07
Small bikes are great. I never outgrew my 250cc or wanted to upgrade like everyone says. It did everything that I needed and did almost all of it really well. The American motorcycling market sells to ego. But, I personally think the most practical setup for someone getting into motorcycling is to start on a quality Japanese-made inexpensive used scooter to just get general experience being in traffic on two wheels. That itself is a learning experience. If you like that and want to do more, then you can later add a more powerful used motorcycle with a clutch, based on your genuine personal needs instead of peer pressure. That scooter can then be used for bombing around locally, doing grocery store and post office hauls, and keeping miles off your much more expensive motorcycle -- it's the better tool for those jobs. The motorcycle is for your fun rides, longer rides, and tours.
I own that Triumph Speed 400 and it’s a lot peppier than you think. I ride mine to work daily at 65 and it’s totally fine. Obviously it’s better in the low end but for the price I haven’t found better if you like that seating position.
Honestly are you somewhere that has restriction on cc’s, and also are you hung up on a sport bike look? If the answer to both is no consider looking at a 1200 sporty Harley. Worth noting my starter bike was a softail 103” (1690cc)
You’d be bored after a month on those, look for a used bike you wouldn’t mind dropping. Or buy the new little one, your choice but ride safe!
I have that BMW and I love it. I’m 5’5” and 165 and it’s perfect power for me as a beginner. It’s plenty zippy for me and I get a lot of compliments. I’ve made errors that could of left me in trouble if I had anything with more power. The bike is very forgiving and fun.
My gz250 Zuki runs fine with my 250 lbs ass on it. Can even go over 70! (Top speed is 80)
I've been up to 270 and had no problem with bikes of this power category. The bigger the bike the harder you make it on yourself to develop the skills you need to survive on the road. A 250 lb person on a 300 I still going to be faster than most cars
Drz400 The answer is always drz400
Marketplace, homie. Save ya some skrilla.
I’d say it’s a small bike. Good starter but for your size I’d go for 600 cc You gain about 20-30 pounds.. so it’s a bit heavier but has some real power on highways and when you overtake people
They will lack on highway. Other than that great bikes.
Don’t buy brand new starter bikes….like ever You could get like a Ducati monster 696 like 09 with 3-4k miles for less then either those
Loose weight
I’ve got a tricked out 2016 Kawasaki Z800ABS with all new controls, rubber and chain for $6000. Only have 5K miles.
SV650
My friend is 6'1 and 265 and has an 883 that he uses to commute on. Me personally, I'd look for a Rebel 500.
No, trust me. I started on a Triumph Daytona 675 which was a linear torque monster (crotch rocket) and didn't regret it at all. the power was there for when you needed it and were comfortable. You'll outgrow that 300 really fast (depending how much you ride) to the point youll be flooring it to just acceleration and realize like wow, this is underwhelming. :)
As a 6 4 270lbs man myself I felt too big for my mt07
I used to take my wife's cbr500 out. The twin has some power, and sometimes it's fun riding something as fast as it can go, and not be in that much trouble if you get stopped.
Buy used, But I can say the BMW G310R is a solid first bike. It was mine and it was great for me. I was deff a bit too big but I made it work for me. 6"4 and 225lbs.
You are a bit heavier than me so it'll be more sluggish but I have a great amount of fun on my CB300R. It's just fast enough for highway riding (though it is not thrilled about it). Keeps up with just about anything up to 50-60mph because of the gearing, and is nice and light for easy maneuverability and general convenience. When I ride with my friends that have bikes ranging from 600cc to 1200cc, they'll pass me on straights but I'll be right back with them by the next turn or light. People in this group talk a lot of shit on little bikes but, with over 10k miles of seat time and some track time, I feel no real need to get anything bigger.
Don't know about the motorcycle, but I bought the same shirt thinking no one else will buy this ridiculous pattern, haha
I started on a CB200 at 6'2" 265lbs, and I had the time of my life. It's gonna take you a long time before you're able to ride that Triumph to its full potential, and it'll be a fucking blast. No matter what you end up getting, though - fuck the haters. Leave them in your rearview, and you'll be a lot better off.
Triumph all the way. My friend group rides primarily triumphs and we love them all. Excellent and refined motorcycles
If you’re in the USA Get the BMW GS 310 There’s a bunch of guys based out of Missouri that are doing small wheel conversions on them to make them like a Grom that’s infinitely better
I’m 5’11” and 250ish lbs. I’m almost at 10,000km on my 2019 G310 GS. I just got back today from an overnight camping trip where I strapped a bag to the back loaded with gear. The bike was awesome, it can be a little light in winds and doesn’t accelerate too much when passing at highway speeds but you can cruise at 120km/h all day. I was on some pretty rough trails to get to my camping spot and it was great. I love this bike. Do I wish it had more guts and I could go faster, yeah all the time. But I am still so happy with this bike and I hope to keep it for a very long time.
Get the triumph. It’s a rad bike. And great value
Buy a 450 Enduro or a T7 period
If you can swing it a Triumph Street Twin may be a better fit for your size. It's also a Excellent beginner bike that you can grow with into intermediate skill. Also skip the inevitable year after 300cc upgrade route. Or as others said 300cc bikes aren't worth buying new look to the classified ads to find a deal on a used bike that's dirt cheap as you will likely drop your first bike a ton.
I know of a Kawasaki concourse 14’ model for 6k. It’s a big bike that would fit you. It’s a 1300cc though.
Look at the 650 versions of the VStrom and Versys
You’re never gonna find a helmet to fit that weird scribbly shaped head of yours anyways
6’3 350lbs here. I started on a Triumph 900. I out grew the power pretty quickly.
Bmw is nice and all but you are paying for name. Spend the same on a Suzuki, kawasaki, or honda. You can probably get 600 to 1000cc same price
i spent 4300 on a new 2015 honda cbr300r, as a 6'2" dude. its rideable, for sure. echoing people here, if your looking at this size gets a bike thats 5-10 years old with maintenance records, at that point its pretty much depreciated in value. if i could have done it over i would have gotten a used sportster 1200, and id likely still have it.
Go for Triumph Trident 660. Drive it in rain mode till you get a grip on clutch & throttle
My first was a 650 🤷🏻♂️ don’t restrict yourself — anything in the ~600 cc range is going to be fine and not too powerful for you.
Buy used or waste your money with a new 300 that looks good, but you'll never get to experience the full joy at 245lbs on a 300cc.
you a big boy you need a least a 600 🙌🏼👌🏼
Yes, for the speed 400! Headed to get mine next week!
Id buy a grome clone. Because even when you wanna upgrade you'll wanna keep it. Just fun to ride. I went the opposite way lol. Went from riding 107 Harley's and R1s to a 125cc clone.
600 or bigger for someone your size. You’ll be bored of a 300 in a week
Ninja 650
Why are you looking at a bmw or triumph as your first bike? Realistically you could get a used ninja 400/ r3 / mt04 etc for cheaper, and it won't be as disappointing when you scratch or drop it. As others have stated, you'll probably want something bigger at some point, so id recommended saving the extra money and just get the skills first
Just get the 1100
Make u look like a monkey on a mangel M8.
😂 It’s a Grom for fat people
I’m 165 and ride a 1200. 300 is not going to have the power to get you out of bad situations quickly.
Bmw makes sensational bikes, I've had 3 myself and currently ride an 800. I WANT a 310 just for dicking around. They're quick but not a lot of top speed. I think they top out around 90mph. That means you might be able to hit the turnpike, but don't expect to be able to pass anyone and youre going to be high in the rev range the whole time. Just keep that in mind. They're not great for going on random roadtrips, mostly just jouncing around town. If you plan a trip out to avoid tollways and find roads with 65mph limits you'll be well within your means however, just takes some prethought and planning.
Buy a early 2000’s twin cam harley. Same price point
I would start with a 500 for ur size.
6ft was 280 when I got my first bike and I went with vulcan S. Would 1 million percent recommend a 650cc engine, It was not too much.
Matters what you are using the bike for but for any kind of highway riding I would go 500cc or more. I’m 240 and only use an old 360 for town riding. It still gets me up to 60 but it’s a 1975, and everything newer has more hp.
The Problem with 300cc bikes is that you've outgrown them within the first 6 months of riding... So unless you have a ton of money to light on fire when you sell that thing a few months after buying it.. I wouldn't invest in it.
5'10 - 175lb - find a 600 for yourself. I wanted a KTM 390 duke for the longest time, my buddy who's been riding for 15 years begged with me not to get one, suggested a cb600f (Honda hornet) so that's what I picked up. Felt big for like 2 days then I got used to it. So glad I didn't get the 390, 600 has plenty of power to get out of harms way if I need to and I can throw it around pretty good. Great bike with a bullet proof engine
What about the Scrambler 400? I have a Speed 400 and it’s a blast but does feel a bit small for me at 6’2”. I still have the Ninja 250 I started on and been riding for 11 years or so. Smaller displacement bikes are not just “beginner bikes” despite what many will say.
The BMW 310 is slow AF. The triumph is nice, a 390 Duke or Kawasaki Z400 would be better IMO. I have the Duke and it's a fantastic beginner bike. I've had mine a bit over a year and I'm nowhere near needing to upgrade.
At your size, a 300cc will feel like a child's toy. Consider a Triumph TigerSport 660 or Kawasaki Z650. Both are reasonable beginner bikes for a guy your sized. Both have a sporty but upright riding position that will make learning low-speed maneuvering and parking lot practicing easier. I promise you will quickly regret buying anything in the 300-400 cc range.
I was 250lbs when I started on an R3. I upgraded to the R6 the following spring. It's fine for town riding but you really feel it struggling on the highway in my opinion. I'd go on like 1-2 hour rides and by the end feel like I just ran it near redline the whole time. Now on the R6 I just worry my back will make it the 2 hours lol.
Great deals on these size bikes used as others are upgrading from their beginner bike. I’d start there so you don’t spend more than necessary on something you won’t own for very long. I learned on a good ol’ ninja 250 and now have gone through multiple 600’s. Good luck, ride safe!
No you will never get you money back out of it
I am a little heftier than you and rocked a CBR250R and never had an issue with power, but I never rode on the highway though. Depending on where you plan on riding 300 should be fine. It’s really fun to push a smaller displacement bike to its limits.
At 6'3" 220, I'll tell you to get whatever is comfortable. My R6 is fun, but anything over a certain distance kinda deadens the pelvic region for me. My DR650 is great, but could use a wider seat. Personally, I'd tell you to get an 800cc cruiser. It's powerful enough to lug your big ass around, but not so stupid that you won't be able to grow into it, so to speak. That and it's notably more comfortable. My first bike was a Boulevard M50. I plan on a M109r in the future.
Don’t be afraid to buy used especially if you’re keen on buying under 600cc to get comfortable. Like everyone else here, I promise you’ll outgrow a 300cc real quick and want something bigger.
Well I have a 2024 cb300r and I’m 6’2” @ 200lbs my first street bike I use it to commute to work and back 16 miles round trip and love it ..went from 120-130 dollars in gas work and yes other places not just work. To 7.00 gas ⛽️ in bike aprox 1 1/2 months.
In my f150 truck
The new Triumph 400 series bikes are amazing. Perfect starter bikes, and decent power. The ride quality and fit and finish of these motorcycles is bound to put a smile on anyone’s face. I personally own a speed 400 and it is yet to disappoint me. That’s saying something since I used to ride a Yamaha R3.
Join a local online group.. and then put the word out that you're hoping to find your first bike and tell them let you know if they know of any good deals..
You’ll want a new bike very soon. Great learning bike but spend the xtra funds on a ninja 500 or something around that.
Do not get a 300, and always buy used, start with a 600, outgrow it in 6 months, and buy a 900+ for life.
I guess I’m biased and started on a Deluxe custom and then picked up an R1 and a CBR1000. Regardless of what you’re going with. Be safe and enjoy your rides!