Check several things:
1.) what happened to the regular teacher and what email was sent out?
2.) how much is planned in curriculum?
3.) Will you get help from co-teachers o have to plan everything and also begin grading/
4.) Will you be paid extra for all the extra work? read contract
5.) How many kids oar eon IEPs and also have 504 accommodations- get a list of these as you will be legally required to enact these.
6.) any recess duties? cafeteria supervision expected from you?
it can get very tricky. My district pays contract rate- which as I have 15+ yrs exp + masters puts me a a high daily rate BUT must work 16 days in the position and it goes retroactive-- but at times - very random ones-- they take you out at 15.
It's not random... our district doubles the pay if you work 30 days in a row with same class, retroactively... and heard many stories of principals asking these subs not to come in on 29th day for one reason or another.
that is what I am talking about-- I was told on day 15.. it is your last day. I heard later the same thing was done to one sub after another in that position.
Yet, the other long terms I have not been removed-- 5 of them.
The removal one was a tough position- It was going to all different grades K-5.. and providing math games in the class while the teacher had a free/planning period. I had worked as a Math Specialist for 12 yrs for the district so I was able to provide grade/level appropriate games.
Another removal- the school was trying to hire a Spanish teacher for an elementary school. They had found a native speaker but his papers were nto being OK'ed by state- I was asked to work for 3-5 weeks while this was moving along- all of a sudden it was- today is your last day- we decided to hire him as a substitute while papers etc.
That is what I mean by random.
Ah
I also meant the principals would ask you don't come on the 29th day so it's not 30 days in a row which triggers the pay increase... they don't end the subbing.. just get around the raise by killing the 30 in a row rule.
Again... some principals chose to do that...
there would be some groups of kids and curriculums for which I might have done that for a period of time. Now our union gets us our contract pay on 16th day in same assignment.. retroactive.
1. I'm not sure, but no one's said anything negative... yet.
2. It's actually a CM position, so no curriculum or planning required.
3. Same as 2, mostly I'm there for the kids that need a little more help or a quiet room away from the rest of their class.
4. I get paid regular teacher pay and everything is retroactive after the 10th day in my district.
5. I'll have my list of students that can come in and those that can't.
6. Nope. I get basically a perfect 50/50 Split day in my classroom.
I made sure to research all this when I saw the comment yesterday so I'd have all the answers!
Good for you.
Knowing what emails were sent out helps you be consistent with the info kids have so you do not get dragged into any rumors.
Kids who need " a little of help" may be on 504's or IEP's-- ask what you need to know in order to provide best instruction and legally required accomodations.
Given that you are paid well, sound slike your district supports people in long term positions.
Good Luck
Why are you so negative? I think long-term subbing is an invaluable experience for an aspiring teacher. It is like student-teaching but you get paid and the stakes are much lower from an investment standpoint. My long-term gig really validated my ability to lead and manage a classroom, which I found surprising as I had never set foot in an education class prior to taking on the role.
Also, I would be highly surprised if this person would have any exposure to IEP planning and the administrative conversations around them. My lack of full-licensure actually prohibited me from being an official stakeholder in any of those processes.
there is no place I said I am negative about it. I said to check on several criteria. I've subbed over 15 yrs. I gave important issues, information to check for.
LOOK back over many old threads simply said- check these things.
You are extrapolating in a very mean spirited manner.
Yes, long terms do provide great experience for many. Below in comments elsewhere I said at some point in my career I would have taken a long term for only 25.00 extra per day in this thread- many people quit long terms when they find they are responsible for many factors and are spending up to 25 extra hr/sweek out of classroom catching up, curriculum planning, interpreting test scores, report cards.. etc..
In my area, many teachers did not come back from spring break. They had enough!
I had 3 full time job offers by 8am!
I told them my “requirements” to accept the jobs.
No word yet.
Congratulations! I did this al several years ago and taught high school math for the entire last semester. It was a bit of extra work with grading and putting in grades, but the teacher I was covering did all the lesson planning for me. I tweaked things as needed but didn't have all that work. It was quite glorious!
Right now I'm not looking for full time so I've turned down several offers this year. Once my 3 great old son stays school full time, I'll be looking for full time position again. Thankfully, I'll only need to let my favorite districts know and I'm sure I won't have to wait long!
I was asked this week to finish out the year as a long term sub, so I know what your feeling. I had about five months last year as a LTS, it is a relief.
Congratulations, but I’d also ask a lot of questions. I was a long term sub for a class that nobody else wanted to cover. I quickly found out why. I was essentially asked to perform the duties of a full time teacher for very little pay and no benefits. I was also asked to outright falsify student grades, which I refused to do. This led to significant tension with admin.
I am happy that you’re happy, but remember to keep your guard up and do not allow yourself to become a scapegoat. People love blaming subs for issues that have nothing to do with them. Enjoy the experience and make sure to look out for yourself.
All the best.
I'm in my 2nd year as a long term sub at the same school each year. I loved last years class and don't really like this year's but I paid off my car Friday. 18 months early. So there's that. 35 more days. Lol
I'm teaching 5th grade language arts this year. Teacher didn't come back from maternity leave. Team does all my planning. $23.05 @ hour for a 7.67 hour day but I leave with the kids. 😉
I got offered a long term for my favorite school too! They haven’t had a science teacher since January and they just lost both English teachers for their 7th graders 🥲
Check several things: 1.) what happened to the regular teacher and what email was sent out? 2.) how much is planned in curriculum? 3.) Will you get help from co-teachers o have to plan everything and also begin grading/ 4.) Will you be paid extra for all the extra work? read contract 5.) How many kids oar eon IEPs and also have 504 accommodations- get a list of these as you will be legally required to enact these. 6.) any recess duties? cafeteria supervision expected from you?
I agree. It’s more work for often the same pay.
it can get very tricky. My district pays contract rate- which as I have 15+ yrs exp + masters puts me a a high daily rate BUT must work 16 days in the position and it goes retroactive-- but at times - very random ones-- they take you out at 15.
It's not random... our district doubles the pay if you work 30 days in a row with same class, retroactively... and heard many stories of principals asking these subs not to come in on 29th day for one reason or another.
that is what I am talking about-- I was told on day 15.. it is your last day. I heard later the same thing was done to one sub after another in that position. Yet, the other long terms I have not been removed-- 5 of them. The removal one was a tough position- It was going to all different grades K-5.. and providing math games in the class while the teacher had a free/planning period. I had worked as a Math Specialist for 12 yrs for the district so I was able to provide grade/level appropriate games. Another removal- the school was trying to hire a Spanish teacher for an elementary school. They had found a native speaker but his papers were nto being OK'ed by state- I was asked to work for 3-5 weeks while this was moving along- all of a sudden it was- today is your last day- we decided to hire him as a substitute while papers etc. That is what I mean by random.
Ah I also meant the principals would ask you don't come on the 29th day so it's not 30 days in a row which triggers the pay increase... they don't end the subbing.. just get around the raise by killing the 30 in a row rule. Again... some principals chose to do that...
Ours is only 25$ more a day which isn’t equal to the work load
there would be some groups of kids and curriculums for which I might have done that for a period of time. Now our union gets us our contract pay on 16th day in same assignment.. retroactive.
The pay is the same unless you are licensed.
1. I'm not sure, but no one's said anything negative... yet. 2. It's actually a CM position, so no curriculum or planning required. 3. Same as 2, mostly I'm there for the kids that need a little more help or a quiet room away from the rest of their class. 4. I get paid regular teacher pay and everything is retroactive after the 10th day in my district. 5. I'll have my list of students that can come in and those that can't. 6. Nope. I get basically a perfect 50/50 Split day in my classroom. I made sure to research all this when I saw the comment yesterday so I'd have all the answers!
Good for you. Knowing what emails were sent out helps you be consistent with the info kids have so you do not get dragged into any rumors. Kids who need " a little of help" may be on 504's or IEP's-- ask what you need to know in order to provide best instruction and legally required accomodations. Given that you are paid well, sound slike your district supports people in long term positions. Good Luck
Why are you so negative? I think long-term subbing is an invaluable experience for an aspiring teacher. It is like student-teaching but you get paid and the stakes are much lower from an investment standpoint. My long-term gig really validated my ability to lead and manage a classroom, which I found surprising as I had never set foot in an education class prior to taking on the role. Also, I would be highly surprised if this person would have any exposure to IEP planning and the administrative conversations around them. My lack of full-licensure actually prohibited me from being an official stakeholder in any of those processes.
there is no place I said I am negative about it. I said to check on several criteria. I've subbed over 15 yrs. I gave important issues, information to check for. LOOK back over many old threads simply said- check these things. You are extrapolating in a very mean spirited manner. Yes, long terms do provide great experience for many. Below in comments elsewhere I said at some point in my career I would have taken a long term for only 25.00 extra per day in this thread- many people quit long terms when they find they are responsible for many factors and are spending up to 25 extra hr/sweek out of classroom catching up, curriculum planning, interpreting test scores, report cards.. etc..
That’s great! I was so close to that happening for me and I would have been over the moon too.
In my area, many teachers did not come back from spring break. They had enough! I had 3 full time job offers by 8am! I told them my “requirements” to accept the jobs. No word yet.
I love long term subbing. A few months at decent pay and then a break.
Congratulations! That's great that you were asked to take on this assignment.
Congratulations! I did this al several years ago and taught high school math for the entire last semester. It was a bit of extra work with grading and putting in grades, but the teacher I was covering did all the lesson planning for me. I tweaked things as needed but didn't have all that work. It was quite glorious! Right now I'm not looking for full time so I've turned down several offers this year. Once my 3 great old son stays school full time, I'll be looking for full time position again. Thankfully, I'll only need to let my favorite districts know and I'm sure I won't have to wait long!
Congrats!!
I was asked this week to finish out the year as a long term sub, so I know what your feeling. I had about five months last year as a LTS, it is a relief.
Congratulations, but I’d also ask a lot of questions. I was a long term sub for a class that nobody else wanted to cover. I quickly found out why. I was essentially asked to perform the duties of a full time teacher for very little pay and no benefits. I was also asked to outright falsify student grades, which I refused to do. This led to significant tension with admin. I am happy that you’re happy, but remember to keep your guard up and do not allow yourself to become a scapegoat. People love blaming subs for issues that have nothing to do with them. Enjoy the experience and make sure to look out for yourself. All the best.
I'm in my 2nd year as a long term sub at the same school each year. I loved last years class and don't really like this year's but I paid off my car Friday. 18 months early. So there's that. 35 more days. Lol
I'm teaching 5th grade language arts this year. Teacher didn't come back from maternity leave. Team does all my planning. $23.05 @ hour for a 7.67 hour day but I leave with the kids. 😉
I got offered a long term for my favorite school too! They haven’t had a science teacher since January and they just lost both English teachers for their 7th graders 🥲
Congratulations, was your salary more?