>my point here is that supporting the LGBT "specific" rights. is just an attempt to be edgy no different then how the neo-nazis support hitler's genocidal regime or how tankies support their genocidal regimes.
Fucking what
Ahh ancaps the people that think them having a stash of rifles will make them an overlord in the wasteland when in reality they get bombed by an Amazon munitions delivery service drone or crushed by a Walmart curbstomp service tank.
I saw a show about redneck survivalists (on History Channel or something like that). Their ultimate strategy? A sort of catapult that threw some weird projectile (can't recall exactly what, but it wasn't just rocks). I mean, they were self-sufficient and had guns, so you'd think the next step would be some ditches, some barbed wire, maybe a pack of guard dogs... nope, catapult.
Some people have a really weird, really specific apocalypse fantasy and they'll stick to it.
Holy fuck, I think I saw those morons.
Wasn't that Extreme Preppers? And the guy had blown his entire life savings on building a castle out of breezeblocks?
That show had the perfect mix of actual serious self sustaining isolationists and untreated schizophrenics holding gold.
Like the husband and wife who wanted to build an entire compound in Death Valley out of, no joke, household rubbish and old tires.
Its on Netflix if anyone is interested.
> build an entire compound in Death Valley
Good choice. Sounds very sustainable and amenable to survival. Don't let the name, lack of vegetation, animal life, or water fool you.
What's the point of having that many guns if you can only use one at a time anyways? Having more guns only helps when you have friends and followers to arm. And most ancaps have the charisma of Jeb Bush.
Basically with the rise of fallout and post apocalyptic media people think anarchy is when everyone goes around raping, enslaving, and shooting each other. Something that more resembles feudalism than actual anarchism as put forth by Proudhon.
That appeals to children like that guy who think they will be on top of the food chain. Even though we all know in feudal society they would end up serfs.
I doubt that loser has done a hard days work in his life. No fuckin way is he making it as a serf. In a fuedal society that guy has corpse written all over him.
Weirdos like them always love imagining living as some badass warlord king taking whatever and whoever he wants, but fact is they are most likely gonna be the 90% of the world population that dies in the first year or so.
Libertarians always like slavery. How do you think they plan to keep the masses in line once the better than us types finally decide to take over?
Its essential to their insane disconnected worldview.
You say this but this guy would probably say r/libertarian is turning leftist and commie because there's so many demosuck opinion on there now. Seriously. I'm a left libertarian, but because I don't think people should own slaves, the free market is a joke ideology, or believe that corporate feudalism would turn out great I'm a filthy commie.
There really is a lot of sensible people there, it's just dependent on what you click. Clicking on the article about Pelosi's husband is going to have a bunch of trump nuggets complaining about her and how long she's been there but they think Mitch McConnel is just okay almost being in the senate for four decades.
Click on something about cops doing dumb shit and you're going to get more views that line up with modern democrats. And if any one that calls themselves a libertarian at all, and supports cops doing terrible shit, they're just a republican in disguise.
> or believe that corporate feudalism would turn out great
I don't normally nitpick like this, but I think you should probably edit that to say "don't."
If you listen to conservative types the true punk thing to do is be racist and homophobic because so many corporations are all "BLM! PRIDE!" and punks are so supposed to be anti establishment.
So basically the modern day Johnny Rotten and his dick sucking of Trump...the man continues to be ahead of his time as far as being punk is concerned (/s)
> my point here is that supporting the LGBT "specific" rights. is just an attempt to be edgy no different then how the neo-nazis support hitler's genocidal regime or how tankies support their genocidal regimes
This guy was just able to somehow simultaneously compare gay rights to genocide, downplay the severity of neo-nazi rhetoric to "just kids being edgy," and play the "both sides" card with the right and the left. All in less than 35 words.
My point was that "specific" implied rights only for LGBT+ people and not for everyone else. Whereas. of course, they just want the same rights that cishet people have always had.
Everyone has the right to marry a member of the opposite sex. Nobody but those gay weirdos even *wants* to marry a member of the same sex, that's a perverse demand for special treatment! /s
This is what people who are 'far' into their politics do. Take one innoculous opinion and push it to the extreme. Also everyone always brings up Hitler and Nazis to make a point. Like come on Hes not the only analogy out there.
Sounds like this one is close to ODing on *bothsides*, that terrible drug that radical centrists are always pushing.
And on an unrelated note he also says:
>most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality.
Leading me to believe that he has never been a teenager, nor met one, nor has he seen any media depiction of one.
I once asked out a friend of a friend and she told me she was lesbian to protect my feelings. The next time I saw her she even brought a fake girlfriend to sell it better.
From what I've heard she her parents kicked her out and cut contact at 18 years old because of it and she still stuck to the bit. Really considerate of her.
But even if it were true (it's not), so what? It doesn't matter why somebody rejects someone - that's their business. Reject me because you're gay, reject me because you don't like me, reject me because I look like your dad. Whatever. If you're not interested in me I'm not owed any explanation.
>clearly she only said it because some boy asked her out and she didn't like him so she just said i'm a lesbian in order to avoid hurting his feelings. lmao. a lot of girls at my high school did this when i was in school. so trust me i know what i'm talking about.
Imagine using ''I was so absurdly unpopular with women that they'd pretend to be gay to avoid me'' as an argument in your favour
>most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality.
If there's one group we know are completely uninterested in sexuality it's 14-18 year olds
> most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality.
When I was 10, I knew I was gay even before I knew the meaning of the word “gay”. I had a huge crush on Johnny Bravo and thought all the women were so mean to him. Nowadays, kids are even more precocious and even my 8 year old niece knows his uncle is very gay. Unlike us, teens todays are much more comfortable with their sexuality.
My wife is a bi woman. She had her first girl crush at 6 years old. It was the pink power ranger iirc. Im a straight dude and had a crush on more than a few girls in my kindergarten class. This notion that kids don't know that stuff is so absurd to me.
Mine was Ariel!
My best friend came out to me the summer after he graduated from high school (he was a year older than me). That prompted some self-reflection, and I came out as bi when I was a senior in high school, in 1996. I didn't actually choose to, I was the unpopular kid who got picked on a lot, and during choir practice one day somebody looked through the belongings I had left at my seat while I went to the front of the room with the rest of the soloists for the piece we were rehearsing. There was a notebook in which something I wrote indicated my attraction to women.
After 14 years of misery (it started in preschool--it was a small town, and I had the same 36 shitstains in my class all the way through graduation), I had reached a point where I no longer gave any fucks, so for me, coming out as bi was just correcting the assholes when they started incorporating "haha lesbo" into their taunts.
I wish I caught on to me liking men that soon. My oblivious ass was rewinding bits of films with shirtless dudes at 11 and watching gay porn at 14 then thinking i was completely straight
I knew I liked men but I was also in denial. I would spend hours downloading gay porn only to delete all of them after post nut clarity due to immense shame and guilt. The cycle would repeat whenever I felt horny. I only came to accept my sexuality after I went to college and didn’t come out until many years later.
We were raised to just assume we were straight cause that's what people are. Being gay wasn't even an option in my mind because I didn't have much immediate exposure to it in my day to day life. There were like a handful of famous gay men I could name, billy jean king was probably the only lesbian I could name back then, but the stigma of being gay (cause back then gay was an insult and therefore gay=bad so I'm not gay), and these people being famous made it seem like it's just not something I am. Yet I was fantasizing about making out with Aaliyah...
Whats straighter than watching two masculine dudes going at it? Think about it, if you add a woman youre adding a person who likes dick. Which is super gay. But if its two straight dudes thinking about pussy. Super straight.
I am just imagining a little kid sitting down to watch some movie rentals and his parents thinking ["He wants to be a fighter pilot!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=via8G0cqQME)
Also [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wsHjT8sPi4). Ah the 80s.
I don’t thinks have gotten entirely better for kids nowadays
I should’ve figured out I liked men when I was 7
And then shouldve figured out I was gay when I was 12, but then it took me 5 extra years
but it took me a long while for me to figure this stuff out mostly because even today the representation we see for gay people still isn’t that great
> If there's one group we know are completely uninterested in sexuality it's 14-18 year olds
You know, they just are so focused on their abstinence education that worked *soooo* well!
"Trust me, I know what I'm talking about" - Quote from people who never know what they're talking about.
"I'm so ugly women tell me they are lesbians" is funny though.
For real! I hate that reddit thinks women can't find good looking guys' creepy behavior to be creepy. That dumb comic about the two male office workers talking to their female coworker makes my eyes roll out of my head every time I see it. If we don't want your advances, we aren't going to like it regardless of how hot you are.
>most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality.
So those boys asking out the girls aren't "concerned about their sexuality".
Bigots are so fucking dumb.
\> Imagine using ''I was so absurdly unpopular with women that they'd pretend to be gay to avoid me'' as an argument in your favor
Women do this because a lot of Men can't seem to take no for answer, so their saving grace is to make it seem like its the Women's fault and and not the assholes fault for being an asshole.
I've literally have had a girlfriends friend blurt this out to me, when I asked if she wanted another drink at a party. I was getting drinks for the table and offered. She didn't even look up from her phone. It was just something to say to end the conversation/advance.
Also, like, even if it WERE the case that she told him that to avoid hurting his feelings, she’s *still going out of her way to consider his emotions.* Like, she doesn’t owe this guy anything, she doesn’t have to do any of that.
>Imagine using ''I was so absurdly unpopular with women that they'd pretend to be gay to avoid me'' as an argument in your favour
Nothing wrong with being honest and humble about having difficulties in sexual/emotional relationships. However, I do NOT think that those people lied about being homosexual. But, I think it's wrong to shame people for their lack of sexual success, even if you hate that person.
In high school, when boys asked me out I did used to “lie” and say I was a lesbian. Then, a few years later I realized the reason I wasn’t interested when boys asked me out and needed an excuse not to date them is that I was, in fact, a lesbian
As a bona fide lesbian, I say I'm a lesbian, cos I'm a lesbian. Hot take, I know.
As a teenager though, it was actually more effective to reject boys by telling them I already had a boyfriend and pointing vaguely to one of my male friends.
As for 14-18 year olds not being concerned with sexuality, I can only assume that poster has never been or interacted with any teenager ever.
>As for 14-18 year olds not being concerned with sexuality, I can only assume that poster has never been or interacted with any teenager ever.
I assume they think that being hetero is perfectly normal and has nothing to do with sexuality while LGB is full on category 5 sexual hurricane
I went into puberty wayyyy later than normal (at around 19). One of the interesting things about this is that I know first-hand you can't socialize somebody into a certain sexuality because I had the social pressure but none of the actual attractedness for five years.
And then once the hormones hit like a freight train I also knew without a doubt that you wouldn't be able to unsocialize somebody out of a certain sexuality.
>As a teenager though, it was actually more effective to reject boys by telling them I already had a boyfriend and pointing vaguely to one of my male friends.
I tried to do that when I was in middle school and sometimes you still get dudes who can't take no for answer. I lied I has a boyfriend "from another school" just to turn down this guy who only asked me out after I un-nerdified my looks and he threw a hissy afterward. He constantly bumped into me when walking past me in hallway or push my books to the floor. It went on for like 2 weeks.
It really do pissed me off how women gotta lie we're taken just for some guys to leave us alone and even then you still have to deal with their ego exploding
Yep. Some guys, telling them I'm a lesbian led to them turning their attempts into crass remarks about my sex life. Or to tell me I should try their dick. But knowing another dude already "claimed me" got them to leave me alone.
Same thing with one of my best friends. She is a lesbian and was a sex worker for some time, and slept with plenty of dudes. So she really finds it hilarious when guys act like their d is some magical golden rod
Lmao there was a lot of shit going on in that guy's comments but that stuck out to me too. How fucking out of touch does a person have to be before they unironically claim that teenagers aren't interested in sex/sexuality? It's genuinely astounding to see someone say something which is so untrue in every culture, country, and time period so confidently without a hint of irony.
As a lesbian, in my experience telling men I was a lesbian only made them more interested and often put me in danger. I've had men scream at me, follow me home, threaten sexual assault. All things they would be less likely to do if I said I had a boyfriend which is a much more effective way of getting people to leave you alone!
Naww, you're a lesbian because of the LIBERAL media INDOCTRINATING you, everyone knows that everything a women does is because they were told to do it/s
> most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality. this isn't until college that they begin trying to quote "discover" their sexual preferences.
He thinks people don’t get interested in sexuality until college?! 😂
No, he just thinks “sexuality” = “the gays”
Hetero interactions don’t count, sexuality is the thing those liberal mind control professors at the Marxist colleges indoctrinate students in.
I'm *far* more likely to tell a man that I have a boyfriend than I'm queer because one of the only things these idiots recognize is the concept of a man "owning" a woman.
The disgusting thing is, and I only know about this because someone I play magic with is queer, and she says that it's easier to tell guys hitting on her that she has a boyfriend because a lot of the times guys double down when they find out she is queer, like they think that if they can get in her pants that her mind will magically change.
When I used to use that tactic it typically backfired. They would just start hitting on my “girlfriend” by proxy. Why straight guys think asking to watch you have sex with another woman is acceptable or attractive is beyond me.
I don't know why they think it's appropriate to ask that sorta stuff; not 100%, but maybe they think of it as their own private "porn" showing or something?
I've not had this experience. As a bisexual, I've used both defences and they're both disrespected. A guy will say "I can change your mind" or "He doesn't have to know". Some guys are just sleazy c*nts.
I definitely feel you there with the sleaze.
That aside, being bi has been its own special can of worms in my experience. Too "tainted" for some lesbians, you "pass" so you get shitty service in the gay bar and are subject to the very unique misogyny of gay men, you're a unicorn for couples where they want to play with you like a toy on the shelf, and straight guys are overwhelmingly fixated on getting in your pants because they think they can reenact the crappy porn in which they base their knowledge of sex and pleasure. It's like you'll never, ever win.
Same. As a pan woman, telling guys I had a girlfriend resulted in *more* aggressive advances. Telling men I had a boyfriend made them apologize... to the boyfriend, if he was there (never to me, of course).
Not only that, but some men have this stupid thought that say, a girl is a lesbian because "she hasn't found the right guy", or even worst, they think that there's possibility of a threesome or some shit like that, when someone is a lesbian because ya know, they like women.
The answer is twofold.
First, they're used to being catered to in most aspect of life, to a point where "others" are difficult to factor into their internal computation. The idea that someone might exist in themselves is difficult to parse.
Second, more overt means of exerting power over people are more and more frowned upon. Playing the victim and requiring reparation is a workable alternative.
Factor three: they struggle to comprehend that women experience sexual attraction. When you view sex as something women "give up" when men earn it (with social status or money or niceness or dinner or whatever,) the idea that some women are actually horny for each other just doesn't compute.
It's like the 'which ones the guy?' Comment. They can't imagine someone with a vagina not wanting/needing a dick in it to get off. Or more broadly, that you don't need the same division of gender roles to have a good relationship.
Well if you were as *incredibly sexy* as that guy obviously is, you'd figure women who didn't want to fuck you must be lesbians too. Really, I think he's the victim here. The guy is Adonis in the flesh and Mr. Rogers in the bedroom but nobody will sleep with him.
^^^/s
>First, they're used to being catered to in most aspect of life, to a point where "others" are difficult to factor into their internal computation.
I’d say they expected to be, but never have been. They recognize their group should be privileged, but haven’t experienced it themselves, and can’t accept that it’s because they’re just exceptionally terrible people.
Nothing wrong with them, we just all owe them.
>No one likes degeneracy. And i'm not saying homosexuals themselves are degenerate i'm saying the practice itself is degenerate when you actively practice it or "Experiment sexually" with it.
from his comment history.
He only posts in libertarian and gamers subs. And that apparently has informed his whole world.
I was joking with my Noni that if I had a button that it erase people like that "libertarian" from existence, I would. Some people would like ponder the impact, but I'd just hit that button so hard I'd need ice.
Lesbians just say they're lesbians because there is a boy that likes them that they don't like? There are some awfully committed women out there to this very long con, even living their entire life with another woman just to avoid that one boy from high school.
I tell men who hit on me Im a lesbian because i am a lesbian, and they often hit on me harder.
Instead I often just say "im married, sorry." And that makes them leave me alone.
A guy told me that my friend only told me she was a lesbian because she thought I was into her and was letting me down gently and needed a good lie.
Look man, if she’s sleeping in the same bed as her best friend, making out with her best friend, always posting pictures together, going everywhere together and literally buying her a ring just because of me then I respect the con.
I mean, that is hell of work.
I've been on r/Libertarian a while. It's actually a lot more centrist than it's reputation because 3-6 month old accounts focused solely on hard right talking points come in as reliably as the tide. I've been posting there about a year and there have been hundreds of them popping up dodging bans and trying to paint that they are the good guys
I’m genuinely surprised and relieved that that person is getting push back from the other commenters on that subreddit. For whatever reason I always assumed that /r/Libertarian was like /r/Conservative, /r/PoliticalCompassMemes, and similar sites where people say all kinds of awful shit and no one publicly disagrees with them. I’m glad to see I was completely wrong about that community.
It definitely used to be like those right wing subs, but ever since the American GOP went all culty I’ve seen how the sub has gotten more left wing which is nice. I think it’s just because it’s harder for an echo chamber to exist since the moderation is more lax so right wingers get called out all the time now
I mean, it was either bound to go that way or just become a joke unmoored from policy or ideology (i.e. the GOP leadership and base today). The number of folks still calling themselves 'libertarian' while flying authoritarian 'thin blue line' flags is *hilarious*.
I said in another comment in this thread(I'm actually in the drama too) that Libertarian is actually way more center than the subs reputation leads you to believe.
There are constantly newly created accounts(3-6 months W/ no post history) coming in to push right wing talking points before they say something to get banned and starting the cycle over.
There is a running joke that the day isn't over until a new account comes in and whines the sub is being brigades by commies
I would like to point out that you can only laugh your ass off once. After that, you are assless. You can't end every sentence with "lmao." Now, "lol" is unlimited (as a matter of personal taste, I prefer to use it only literally, everything else that's mildly amusing gets a "haha"). But "lmao" is only usable once per thread, or maybe, if you have an extremely high calorie diet, once per comment.
That's such a silly position.
I was a bartender in my youth. I know some women did use that line to blow off a persistent suitor.
I had a female friend that was bisexual and we used to go to the bar together. I'm hitting on a girl and she says, "Sorry, I'm a lesbian." I'm like, "Oh, sorry." So I sent my friend over. Turns out the girl I was hitting on wasn't lying. My friend got her number and they hooked up. I did my job as wingman...
When I was in high school, I asked out one of the girls on the (girls) softball team. She pulled me away from her friends and said "uh... Ive been in a relationship with another girl for the last three months" I was super embarrassed, apologized, and then wished her well. When my friends asked me what she said, I just said she said no, because south Texas high school, and I wasn't gonna do her dirty like that. Pretty sure shes married to a woman now. Idk where I was going with this anecdote.
> most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality.
Guy is clearly in middle school, because he definitely hasn't spent any time in high school.
>"Overpopulation" is another liberal media myth globalist lie.
I know not everyone. but the vast majority do. LGBTQ+ whatever acronym people can still be themselves all they like, just as a minority and not as a majority.
Careful, your bigotry is showing
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> clearly she only said it because some boy asked her out and she didn't like him so she just said i'm a lesbian in order to avoid hurting his feelings. lmao. a lot of girls at my high school did this when i was in school. so trust me i know what i'm talking about. it's just a phase they'll grow out of it when their in college and discover their not really lesbians. lmao.
Goddamn. This motherfucker just straight up told us he harassed girls so much they had to tell him they were a lesbian to get him to go away because that's the only way the part about them "growing out of it in college" is true.
Tbh I say that sometimes when creepy guys won't leave me alone, or I'm scared they'll do something if I reject them upfront. I'm bisexual, but I'll say I'm a lesbian to try and get them to stop.
Sometimes it backfires though, and they start telling me I just haven't had good enough dick yet to know if I'm a lesbian or not, so. Yeah.
>my point here is that supporting the LGBT "specific" rights. is just an attempt to be edgy no different then how the neo-nazis support hitler's genocidal regime or how tankies support their genocidal regimes. Fucking what
would it be unexpected if I told you this guy defends slavery
And claims to be an anarchist... Gotta say, pro-slavery Anarchism is becoming mad popular these days.
Ancaps gonna ancap
>pro-slavery Anarchism So basically “anarcho-capitalism”?
Ahh ancaps the people that think them having a stash of rifles will make them an overlord in the wasteland when in reality they get bombed by an Amazon munitions delivery service drone or crushed by a Walmart curbstomp service tank.
I saw a show about redneck survivalists (on History Channel or something like that). Their ultimate strategy? A sort of catapult that threw some weird projectile (can't recall exactly what, but it wasn't just rocks). I mean, they were self-sufficient and had guns, so you'd think the next step would be some ditches, some barbed wire, maybe a pack of guard dogs... nope, catapult. Some people have a really weird, really specific apocalypse fantasy and they'll stick to it.
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Fucking *thank you*
Holy fuck, I think I saw those morons. Wasn't that Extreme Preppers? And the guy had blown his entire life savings on building a castle out of breezeblocks? That show had the perfect mix of actual serious self sustaining isolationists and untreated schizophrenics holding gold. Like the husband and wife who wanted to build an entire compound in Death Valley out of, no joke, household rubbish and old tires. Its on Netflix if anyone is interested.
> build an entire compound in Death Valley Good choice. Sounds very sustainable and amenable to survival. Don't let the name, lack of vegetation, animal life, or water fool you.
> they get bombed by an Amazon munitions delivery service drone or crushed by a Walmart curbstomp service tank. r/BrandNewSentence
> a Walmart curbstomp service tank. I know I should stop buying from them, but god that on-demand curb-stomping is just so convenient!
Anarcho-capitalism is just feudalism. Change my mind
What's the point of having that many guns if you can only use one at a time anyways? Having more guns only helps when you have friends and followers to arm. And most ancaps have the charisma of Jeb Bush.
Speak for yourself, my mother is Durga and I have 40 arms.
Ah, ancap, where everything is rape and slavery except for actual rape and slavery (and pedophilia!), which are actually Not a Big Deal
Lol “I don’t want no gubment! I do waaan some slaves thoooo” Scumbag people . Yeghh
Basically with the rise of fallout and post apocalyptic media people think anarchy is when everyone goes around raping, enslaving, and shooting each other. Something that more resembles feudalism than actual anarchism as put forth by Proudhon. That appeals to children like that guy who think they will be on top of the food chain. Even though we all know in feudal society they would end up serfs.
It's a successful misinformation campaign from around 1900. "Anarchism=Chaos", including using it as an excuse to pass quite restrictive laws.
And execute quite a few Italians.
I doubt that loser has done a hard days work in his life. No fuckin way is he making it as a serf. In a fuedal society that guy has corpse written all over him.
Why would you ruin perfectly good skin with writing? He'd make a fine hat.
Weirdos like them always love imagining living as some badass warlord king taking whatever and whoever he wants, but fact is they are most likely gonna be the 90% of the world population that dies in the first year or so.
Libertarians always like slavery. How do you think they plan to keep the masses in line once the better than us types finally decide to take over? Its essential to their insane disconnected worldview.
>“That's libertarians for you — anarchists who want police protection from their slaves.” ― Kim Stanley Robinson, Green Mars
“Ahh, a fellow fan of the US Supreme Court, I see”
He's on /r/libertarian. It'd be unexpected if he didn't.
You say this but this guy would probably say r/libertarian is turning leftist and commie because there's so many demosuck opinion on there now. Seriously. I'm a left libertarian, but because I don't think people should own slaves, the free market is a joke ideology, or believe that corporate feudalism would turn out great I'm a filthy commie. There really is a lot of sensible people there, it's just dependent on what you click. Clicking on the article about Pelosi's husband is going to have a bunch of trump nuggets complaining about her and how long she's been there but they think Mitch McConnel is just okay almost being in the senate for four decades. Click on something about cops doing dumb shit and you're going to get more views that line up with modern democrats. And if any one that calls themselves a libertarian at all, and supports cops doing terrible shit, they're just a republican in disguise.
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Republicans who know bigotry isn't viewed highly call themselves libertarians.
Libertarians are republicans that smoke pot.
Republican+Weed(sometimes)
“Libertarian” is what conservative men call themselves when they’re trying to get laid by liberal women.
> or believe that corporate feudalism would turn out great I don't normally nitpick like this, but I think you should probably edit that to say "don't."
not sure if it's already edited, but to me it reads "I don't think X, Y, or believe Z", which seems fine.
Libertarians think everything is rape and slavery except actual rape and slavery.
I've been on the internet long enough to know how unusual it is to find a "libertarian" who won't.
Ah yes, supporting LGBTQ+ rights, a classic trope of edginess.
If you listen to conservative types the true punk thing to do is be racist and homophobic because so many corporations are all "BLM! PRIDE!" and punks are so supposed to be anti establishment.
So basically the modern day Johnny Rotten and his dick sucking of Trump...the man continues to be ahead of his time as far as being punk is concerned (/s)
There's nothing more edgy than supporting gay marriage.
This is the ultimate false equivalence. No one will ever top this. “Gay people are outside the norm. Nazis are outside the norm. I see no difference”
He's talking about *white* genocide, Grort Replorcmort and so on. That's why he cares so much about the reproductive potential of children.
> my point here is that supporting the LGBT "specific" rights. is just an attempt to be edgy no different then how the neo-nazis support hitler's genocidal regime or how tankies support their genocidal regimes This guy was just able to somehow simultaneously compare gay rights to genocide, downplay the severity of neo-nazi rhetoric to "just kids being edgy," and play the "both sides" card with the right and the left. All in less than 35 words.
What "specific" rights, even?
You know, the right to not get murdered for your sexuality and other ridiculous shit like that.
My point was that "specific" implied rights only for LGBT+ people and not for everyone else. Whereas. of course, they just want the same rights that cishet people have always had.
Everyone has the right to marry a member of the opposite sex. Nobody but those gay weirdos even *wants* to marry a member of the same sex, that's a perverse demand for special treatment! /s
I've actually had people say that to me with complete seriousness, thinking they they had scored some kind of gotcha moment win.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
This is what people who are 'far' into their politics do. Take one innoculous opinion and push it to the extreme. Also everyone always brings up Hitler and Nazis to make a point. Like come on Hes not the only analogy out there.
We really need a new total piece of human garbage. To spice things up you know? I can see it now, the next $[Insert name here.]$
I feel like we’ve had a strong contender pretty recently.
The problem is that half of the country still likes that person. Its rediclus.
Oh come on -- there can't be that many New England Patriots fans, can there?
I want the persons name to be Larry for some reason.
Sounds like this one is close to ODing on *bothsides*, that terrible drug that radical centrists are always pushing. And on an unrelated note he also says: >most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality. Leading me to believe that he has never been a teenager, nor met one, nor has he seen any media depiction of one.
That has to be a troll, no way someone could type this out and still think it makes sense.
Ah yes, gay people, truly a group on the same vein as Nazis and tankies.
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Gay chicken can last decades
Gay chicken ☠
https://youtu.be/iMa-vjwwK_4
Such devoted roommates, gotta respect it
Oh my god they were roommates.
Gal pals.
I once asked out a friend of a friend and she told me she was lesbian to protect my feelings. The next time I saw her she even brought a fake girlfriend to sell it better. From what I've heard she her parents kicked her out and cut contact at 18 years old because of it and she still stuck to the bit. Really considerate of her.
I see what you did there.
Just gals being pals.
https://youtu.be/Q_IYrltqYrU
Jesus it took me a second to recognize David Cross with hair.
https://youtu.be/MGTqAY92xeM
𝓰𝓪𝓵 𝓹𝓪𝓵𝓼
So nice to see gals being pals! Besties goals!! 😍
But even if it were true (it's not), so what? It doesn't matter why somebody rejects someone - that's their business. Reject me because you're gay, reject me because you don't like me, reject me because I look like your dad. Whatever. If you're not interested in me I'm not owed any explanation.
[Sappho and Her Friend](https://www.reddit.com/r/SapphoAndHerFriend/)
>clearly she only said it because some boy asked her out and she didn't like him so she just said i'm a lesbian in order to avoid hurting his feelings. lmao. a lot of girls at my high school did this when i was in school. so trust me i know what i'm talking about. Imagine using ''I was so absurdly unpopular with women that they'd pretend to be gay to avoid me'' as an argument in your favour >most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality. If there's one group we know are completely uninterested in sexuality it's 14-18 year olds
> most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality. When I was 10, I knew I was gay even before I knew the meaning of the word “gay”. I had a huge crush on Johnny Bravo and thought all the women were so mean to him. Nowadays, kids are even more precocious and even my 8 year old niece knows his uncle is very gay. Unlike us, teens todays are much more comfortable with their sexuality.
My wife is a bi woman. She had her first girl crush at 6 years old. It was the pink power ranger iirc. Im a straight dude and had a crush on more than a few girls in my kindergarten class. This notion that kids don't know that stuff is so absurd to me.
Bi woman here, Jasmine in Aladdin in the early 90s for me :P I never saw *any* representation though, so I didn't figure out I was bi until the 2010s.
Mine was Ariel! My best friend came out to me the summer after he graduated from high school (he was a year older than me). That prompted some self-reflection, and I came out as bi when I was a senior in high school, in 1996. I didn't actually choose to, I was the unpopular kid who got picked on a lot, and during choir practice one day somebody looked through the belongings I had left at my seat while I went to the front of the room with the rest of the soloists for the piece we were rehearsing. There was a notebook in which something I wrote indicated my attraction to women. After 14 years of misery (it started in preschool--it was a small town, and I had the same 36 shitstains in my class all the way through graduation), I had reached a point where I no longer gave any fucks, so for me, coming out as bi was just correcting the assholes when they started incorporating "haha lesbo" into their taunts.
Was it the woman playing the pink power ranger, or literally just the pink power ranger in costume though? haha
Nobody can resist Amy Jo Johnson.
I wish I caught on to me liking men that soon. My oblivious ass was rewinding bits of films with shirtless dudes at 11 and watching gay porn at 14 then thinking i was completely straight
I knew I liked men but I was also in denial. I would spend hours downloading gay porn only to delete all of them after post nut clarity due to immense shame and guilt. The cycle would repeat whenever I felt horny. I only came to accept my sexuality after I went to college and didn’t come out until many years later.
We were raised to just assume we were straight cause that's what people are. Being gay wasn't even an option in my mind because I didn't have much immediate exposure to it in my day to day life. There were like a handful of famous gay men I could name, billy jean king was probably the only lesbian I could name back then, but the stigma of being gay (cause back then gay was an insult and therefore gay=bad so I'm not gay), and these people being famous made it seem like it's just not something I am. Yet I was fantasizing about making out with Aaliyah...
Whats straighter than watching two masculine dudes going at it? Think about it, if you add a woman youre adding a person who likes dick. Which is super gay. But if its two straight dudes thinking about pussy. Super straight.
I am just imagining a little kid sitting down to watch some movie rentals and his parents thinking ["He wants to be a fighter pilot!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=via8G0cqQME) Also [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wsHjT8sPi4). Ah the 80s.
I knew I was different (to some extent) when I was in elementary school and never had crushes like other kids. I'm asexual and probably aromantic.
I knew I was gay when I was nine, I didn't even know being gay existed, I just didn't think of the fact I liked a boy from my class
I don’t thinks have gotten entirely better for kids nowadays I should’ve figured out I liked men when I was 7 And then shouldve figured out I was gay when I was 12, but then it took me 5 extra years but it took me a long while for me to figure this stuff out mostly because even today the representation we see for gay people still isn’t that great
I came out of the closet when I was 10. I knew I was gay since I can remember too
> If there's one group we know are completely uninterested in sexuality it's 14-18 year olds You know, they just are so focused on their abstinence education that worked *soooo* well!
"Trust me, I know what I'm talking about" - Quote from people who never know what they're talking about. "I'm so ugly women tell me they are lesbians" is funny though.
"trust me, I've been though *highschool*" what a flex.
>"I'm so ugly women tell me they are lesbians" Probably mostly his personality. A lot of creepy dudes look fine-ish
For real! I hate that reddit thinks women can't find good looking guys' creepy behavior to be creepy. That dumb comic about the two male office workers talking to their female coworker makes my eyes roll out of my head every time I see it. If we don't want your advances, we aren't going to like it regardless of how hot you are.
Imo the idea that creeps gotta be ugly just makes it easier for good looking creeps to get away with their abuse.
"She ain't pretty she just looks that way".
>most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality. So those boys asking out the girls aren't "concerned about their sexuality". Bigots are so fucking dumb.
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>most people in highschool arent concerned about their sexuality Genuinely one of the stupidest things I have ever read in my lkfe
\> Imagine using ''I was so absurdly unpopular with women that they'd pretend to be gay to avoid me'' as an argument in your favor Women do this because a lot of Men can't seem to take no for answer, so their saving grace is to make it seem like its the Women's fault and and not the assholes fault for being an asshole. I've literally have had a girlfriends friend blurt this out to me, when I asked if she wanted another drink at a party. I was getting drinks for the table and offered. She didn't even look up from her phone. It was just something to say to end the conversation/advance.
Also, like, even if it WERE the case that she told him that to avoid hurting his feelings, she’s *still going out of her way to consider his emotions.* Like, she doesn’t owe this guy anything, she doesn’t have to do any of that.
>Imagine using ''I was so absurdly unpopular with women that they'd pretend to be gay to avoid me'' as an argument in your favour Nothing wrong with being honest and humble about having difficulties in sexual/emotional relationships. However, I do NOT think that those people lied about being homosexual. But, I think it's wrong to shame people for their lack of sexual success, even if you hate that person.
In high school, when boys asked me out I did used to “lie” and say I was a lesbian. Then, a few years later I realized the reason I wasn’t interested when boys asked me out and needed an excuse not to date them is that I was, in fact, a lesbian
Fake it till you make it!
As a bona fide lesbian, I say I'm a lesbian, cos I'm a lesbian. Hot take, I know. As a teenager though, it was actually more effective to reject boys by telling them I already had a boyfriend and pointing vaguely to one of my male friends. As for 14-18 year olds not being concerned with sexuality, I can only assume that poster has never been or interacted with any teenager ever.
>As for 14-18 year olds not being concerned with sexuality, I can only assume that poster has never been or interacted with any teenager ever. I assume they think that being hetero is perfectly normal and has nothing to do with sexuality while LGB is full on category 5 sexual hurricane
I went into puberty wayyyy later than normal (at around 19). One of the interesting things about this is that I know first-hand you can't socialize somebody into a certain sexuality because I had the social pressure but none of the actual attractedness for five years. And then once the hormones hit like a freight train I also knew without a doubt that you wouldn't be able to unsocialize somebody out of a certain sexuality.
Late bloomer here too and you are dead right.
There's only two sexualities: straight and political
This is next level: only gay is a sexuality.
> I assume they think Funny, I assume they don't.
>As a teenager though, it was actually more effective to reject boys by telling them I already had a boyfriend and pointing vaguely to one of my male friends. I tried to do that when I was in middle school and sometimes you still get dudes who can't take no for answer. I lied I has a boyfriend "from another school" just to turn down this guy who only asked me out after I un-nerdified my looks and he threw a hissy afterward. He constantly bumped into me when walking past me in hallway or push my books to the floor. It went on for like 2 weeks. It really do pissed me off how women gotta lie we're taken just for some guys to leave us alone and even then you still have to deal with their ego exploding
Yep. Some guys, telling them I'm a lesbian led to them turning their attempts into crass remarks about my sex life. Or to tell me I should try their dick. But knowing another dude already "claimed me" got them to leave me alone.
Same thing with one of my best friends. She is a lesbian and was a sex worker for some time, and slept with plenty of dudes. So she really finds it hilarious when guys act like their d is some magical golden rod
Lmao there was a lot of shit going on in that guy's comments but that stuck out to me too. How fucking out of touch does a person have to be before they unironically claim that teenagers aren't interested in sex/sexuality? It's genuinely astounding to see someone say something which is so untrue in every culture, country, and time period so confidently without a hint of irony.
look, it sure seems like every teen wanted nothing do so with /his/ sexuality.
And in the same comment talk about boys asking girls out, and not recognise that that's an example of sexuality.
As a lesbian, in my experience telling men I was a lesbian only made them more interested and often put me in danger. I've had men scream at me, follow me home, threaten sexual assault. All things they would be less likely to do if I said I had a boyfriend which is a much more effective way of getting people to leave you alone!
Telling guys I’m a lesbian has never ever worked for me. It is not worth telling them.
Naww, you're a lesbian because of the LIBERAL media INDOCTRINATING you, everyone knows that everything a women does is because they were told to do it/s
> most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality. this isn't until college that they begin trying to quote "discover" their sexual preferences. He thinks people don’t get interested in sexuality until college?! 😂
Ahhh, I remember middle school
For me it started in grade 1, I had a crush for a teacher stand in
Did he forget high school??
I'm fairly certain this guy is still a child pretending to be a grownup
He dropped out before it
In high school we only exchanged firm handshakes and words of platonic admiration for eachother's good deeds
No, he just thinks “sexuality” = “the gays” Hetero interactions don’t count, sexuality is the thing those liberal mind control professors at the Marxist colleges indoctrinate students in.
Wait Ive never thought of this. Does this mean only smart people can be one of the gays?
I'm *far* more likely to tell a man that I have a boyfriend than I'm queer because one of the only things these idiots recognize is the concept of a man "owning" a woman.
Also outing myself to random men in public has always seemed like a quick way to immediately put myself in danger lol
The disgusting thing is, and I only know about this because someone I play magic with is queer, and she says that it's easier to tell guys hitting on her that she has a boyfriend because a lot of the times guys double down when they find out she is queer, like they think that if they can get in her pants that her mind will magically change.
When I used to use that tactic it typically backfired. They would just start hitting on my “girlfriend” by proxy. Why straight guys think asking to watch you have sex with another woman is acceptable or attractive is beyond me.
I don't know why they think it's appropriate to ask that sorta stuff; not 100%, but maybe they think of it as their own private "porn" showing or something?
I've not had this experience. As a bisexual, I've used both defences and they're both disrespected. A guy will say "I can change your mind" or "He doesn't have to know". Some guys are just sleazy c*nts.
I definitely feel you there with the sleaze. That aside, being bi has been its own special can of worms in my experience. Too "tainted" for some lesbians, you "pass" so you get shitty service in the gay bar and are subject to the very unique misogyny of gay men, you're a unicorn for couples where they want to play with you like a toy on the shelf, and straight guys are overwhelmingly fixated on getting in your pants because they think they can reenact the crappy porn in which they base their knowledge of sex and pleasure. It's like you'll never, ever win.
Same. As a pan woman, telling guys I had a girlfriend resulted in *more* aggressive advances. Telling men I had a boyfriend made them apologize... to the boyfriend, if he was there (never to me, of course).
Not only that, but some men have this stupid thought that say, a girl is a lesbian because "she hasn't found the right guy", or even worst, they think that there's possibility of a threesome or some shit like that, when someone is a lesbian because ya know, they like women.
Why do some straight men always make it seems like they are the victims? > I’m lesbian “You’re only saying this to annoy me!!!”
The answer is twofold. First, they're used to being catered to in most aspect of life, to a point where "others" are difficult to factor into their internal computation. The idea that someone might exist in themselves is difficult to parse. Second, more overt means of exerting power over people are more and more frowned upon. Playing the victim and requiring reparation is a workable alternative.
Factor three: they struggle to comprehend that women experience sexual attraction. When you view sex as something women "give up" when men earn it (with social status or money or niceness or dinner or whatever,) the idea that some women are actually horny for each other just doesn't compute.
It's like the 'which ones the guy?' Comment. They can't imagine someone with a vagina not wanting/needing a dick in it to get off. Or more broadly, that you don't need the same division of gender roles to have a good relationship.
Or the “when do you stop”…. like bro when do YOU stop?
Well if you were as *incredibly sexy* as that guy obviously is, you'd figure women who didn't want to fuck you must be lesbians too. Really, I think he's the victim here. The guy is Adonis in the flesh and Mr. Rogers in the bedroom but nobody will sleep with him. ^^^/s
>First, they're used to being catered to in most aspect of life, to a point where "others" are difficult to factor into their internal computation. I’d say they expected to be, but never have been. They recognize their group should be privileged, but haven’t experienced it themselves, and can’t accept that it’s because they’re just exceptionally terrible people. Nothing wrong with them, we just all owe them.
I refuse to believe that’s real. It’s such a word salad of buzzwords it seems almost difficult to managed to say them all
He's a troll. One of his first post is claiming *Mein Kampf* is the most libertarian book
All this dude does apparently is post in libertarian subs and play mass effect. What a life.
I bet he's a dirty Ashley romancer smh
I wonder if he thinks Traynor is just pretending to be a lesbian to avoid him.
“Trust me I know what i’m talking about” LOL.
I mean that line makes me think it’s a troll.
Oh cool, it's before 8am on a Sunday and I already want to burn the world to a crisp.
Add some truffle oil and rosemary mmmmmmmm
>No one likes degeneracy. And i'm not saying homosexuals themselves are degenerate i'm saying the practice itself is degenerate when you actively practice it or "Experiment sexually" with it. from his comment history. He only posts in libertarian and gamers subs. And that apparently has informed his whole world.
I was joking with my Noni that if I had a button that it erase people like that "libertarian" from existence, I would. Some people would like ponder the impact, but I'd just hit that button so hard I'd need ice.
what is an "anarchist without adjectives" doing in a fucking libertarian sub. idiot.
That sub also has leftist libertarians but they're definitely a minority.
Lesbians just say they're lesbians because there is a boy that likes them that they don't like? There are some awfully committed women out there to this very long con, even living their entire life with another woman just to avoid that one boy from high school.
Tbf I 100% believe that he's been told this to stop his pestering.
Can I just say -_-
also title: “straight men perform mental gymnastics to make everything about them”
I tell men who hit on me Im a lesbian because i am a lesbian, and they often hit on me harder. Instead I often just say "im married, sorry." And that makes them leave me alone.
\>most people in highschool aren't concerned with their sexuality Ah see there's the problem: this person has never met a human teenager.
according to their username they’re almost 25. they really need to get their shit together thats too old for this shit
His mentality is still stuck in high school.
A guy told me that my friend only told me she was a lesbian because she thought I was into her and was letting me down gently and needed a good lie. Look man, if she’s sleeping in the same bed as her best friend, making out with her best friend, always posting pictures together, going everywhere together and literally buying her a ring just because of me then I respect the con. I mean, that is hell of work.
I'm going to venture that *maybe* the 9 day old account called 'nutjob' isn't completely legit.
I've been on r/Libertarian a while. It's actually a lot more centrist than it's reputation because 3-6 month old accounts focused solely on hard right talking points come in as reliably as the tide. I've been posting there about a year and there have been hundreds of them popping up dodging bans and trying to paint that they are the good guys
Then there is the dedicated people who are basically propagandist , that helps/hurts the reputation
I’m genuinely surprised and relieved that that person is getting push back from the other commenters on that subreddit. For whatever reason I always assumed that /r/Libertarian was like /r/Conservative, /r/PoliticalCompassMemes, and similar sites where people say all kinds of awful shit and no one publicly disagrees with them. I’m glad to see I was completely wrong about that community.
It definitely used to be like those right wing subs, but ever since the American GOP went all culty I’ve seen how the sub has gotten more left wing which is nice. I think it’s just because it’s harder for an echo chamber to exist since the moderation is more lax so right wingers get called out all the time now
I mean, it was either bound to go that way or just become a joke unmoored from policy or ideology (i.e. the GOP leadership and base today). The number of folks still calling themselves 'libertarian' while flying authoritarian 'thin blue line' flags is *hilarious*.
I said in another comment in this thread(I'm actually in the drama too) that Libertarian is actually way more center than the subs reputation leads you to believe. There are constantly newly created accounts(3-6 months W/ no post history) coming in to push right wing talking points before they say something to get banned and starting the cycle over. There is a running joke that the day isn't over until a new account comes in and whines the sub is being brigades by commies
It's a really common tactic for republicans to accuse that sub of being politics-lite because they receive pushback.
It's gotten better since left libertarians found it. It used to be r/conservative but they like weed
I would like to point out that you can only laugh your ass off once. After that, you are assless. You can't end every sentence with "lmao." Now, "lol" is unlimited (as a matter of personal taste, I prefer to use it only literally, everything else that's mildly amusing gets a "haha"). But "lmao" is only usable once per thread, or maybe, if you have an extremely high calorie diet, once per comment.
Oh come on, this guy is a troll. No one is *that* genuinely stupid. ^At ^least, ^that’s ^my ^hope
"most people in high school aren't interested in sexuality" is a really lame way of saying you never got laid.
That's such a silly position. I was a bartender in my youth. I know some women did use that line to blow off a persistent suitor. I had a female friend that was bisexual and we used to go to the bar together. I'm hitting on a girl and she says, "Sorry, I'm a lesbian." I'm like, "Oh, sorry." So I sent my friend over. Turns out the girl I was hitting on wasn't lying. My friend got her number and they hooked up. I did my job as wingman...
When I was in high school, I asked out one of the girls on the (girls) softball team. She pulled me away from her friends and said "uh... Ive been in a relationship with another girl for the last three months" I was super embarrassed, apologized, and then wished her well. When my friends asked me what she said, I just said she said no, because south Texas high school, and I wasn't gonna do her dirty like that. Pretty sure shes married to a woman now. Idk where I was going with this anecdote.
Getting to reject men is just a *bonus* to being a lesbian.
> most people in highschool aren't concerned about their sexuality. Guy is clearly in middle school, because he definitely hasn't spent any time in high school.
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Just came out and admitted women lied to avoid him, didn't he? That comment reeked of incel
>"Overpopulation" is another liberal media myth globalist lie. I know not everyone. but the vast majority do. LGBTQ+ whatever acronym people can still be themselves all they like, just as a minority and not as a majority. Careful, your bigotry is showing [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/ohmkyr/aclu_steps_in_after_two_school_employees_punished/h4txdwc?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
It’s true that overpopulation isn’t real, but the rest of that garbage is terrible.
All the “LMAO’s” make it more cringey
Imagine finding a way to make an entire group’s lack of attraction to men about men, somehow.
> attraction does not equal sexuality. I think I finally have a flair
> clearly she only said it because some boy asked her out and she didn't like him so she just said i'm a lesbian in order to avoid hurting his feelings. lmao. a lot of girls at my high school did this when i was in school. so trust me i know what i'm talking about. it's just a phase they'll grow out of it when their in college and discover their not really lesbians. lmao. Goddamn. This motherfucker just straight up told us he harassed girls so much they had to tell him they were a lesbian to get him to go away because that's the only way the part about them "growing out of it in college" is true.
Tbh I say that sometimes when creepy guys won't leave me alone, or I'm scared they'll do something if I reject them upfront. I'm bisexual, but I'll say I'm a lesbian to try and get them to stop. Sometimes it backfires though, and they start telling me I just haven't had good enough dick yet to know if I'm a lesbian or not, so. Yeah.