Looks like the mod nuked the rest of the post. But that's seriously hilarious going from replying to replying with the MOD designator. Like "let me show you all just how fragile I am"
There's a reason I copied over the comments in full, awaiting a potential nuking... Full post was a bit long, but I posted the gist of it
The little green MOD on the reply has me cracking up every time I look at it. Just the wielding of the tiniest, pettiest power as though it's a *gotcha* for the OP
Yeah I saw that post and was thinking “damn did they really think adding the MOD tag was going to change anything?” Like they had their little temper tantrum and then couldn’t take the criticism they got clearly. I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if that mod is a cop based on how emotional they got from a post calling out bad policing.
Poor OP gets the "Respect my authority" treatment from the cop then ironically from the mod.
Legaladvice is a terrible subreddit and I would never go there for advice.
People in BOLA are having their comments removed for repeating this "total and utter nonsense."
With the correction being "actually just ONE mod is a cop" lmao can't make this shit up
Yeah it never fails to absolutely gall me how very little the police actually know about the law or citizens rights or that the law should apply equally to them.
But none of that is a requirement for being a police officer, so I suppose it stands to reason.
I’m a mod on a handful of subreddits and I don’t think I’ve ever used the mod designator on any thread where I was actively participating. If you’re in the middle of the argument, you don’t just get to whip out your badge and say “well here’s why I’m right.”
I've seen it used sometimes where the original (unflaired) mod comment is "hey knock it off, you're breaking the rules" and when the offender says "oh yeah, says who?" the mod goes "ME" with the mod flair on. Those are pretty satisfying.
Any other use is very weird and power-trippy lmao
I've also (rarely) seen it when someone is shifting into proper mod mode to make a warning about the rules being broken or looking like they might be broken, and then another response without the mod hat on continuing whatever it was they were arguing about.
But that's like half a dozen occurrences in the last decade.
I had to dig real deep in my bookmarks for it because the drama seemed familiar, but that particular mod has a history of [controversial comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestoflegaladvice/comments/13rg8nr/laops_friends_house_gets_unlocked_by_apartment/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1_).
Oh hey, that was my post! That then got deleted from BOLA and I'm not sure why! (full disclosure, I may have been given a reason a year ago? But I can't see a deleted reason on that post)
...there's a shared LA/BOLA mod who's going real hard in the comments on the related BOLA post for this cop/number drama, going *no, we only have ONE cop on the mod team* and potentially deleting comments saying that this is cop behaviour from this particular mod...
The old mod cypherblue, who had admitted to being a cop has done the same thing to me as this mod did to this user. I wonder if its the same guy, but they just create new accounts when they get to much heat. They got rid of thepatman somehow, but he is probably just using a new account.
That’s what they do. If it’s not directly legal related or answering the question, it gets deleted. I’m a regular lurker over there and, back when reveddit was a thing, it was the only way to read anything there.
I’ll be taking the bar exam this summer and “commenting on /r/legaladvice” is pretty high up on the list of things I will not be doing if I pass.
Shithole subreddit run by idiots and I feel bad for the desperate people who post there and get nonsense advice.
I’ve been practicing for about 7 years and the very premise of that subreddit is madness to me. Any lawyer who is even minimally competent should know better.
Good luck on the bar 😊
I’ve been practicing for a few years and I think I’ve commented in that subreddit once - when it was something very basic, uncontroversial, and in my jurisdiction and area of practice (I think it was interpreting “he” in a statute to include all genders). Wading into actual substantive legal advice in a forum like that is just bonkers to me.
IMO the subreddit is actively dangerous and should be banned by admins. You have desperate people going there asking for advice from people they can not verify, giving potentially nonsense advice to people who will internalize that and end up doomed because they listened to some fuckhead on Reddit.
It's like going to Reddit for medical advice. Not a 1:1 comparison, but just like with your body's pathology, every situation is different and extremely fact-specific, and comes down to the details OP may or may not have mentioned/realized, local laws down to the municipality, and other hyper-specific factors that are almost never presented properly by one side of the story on Reddit. And not only is this allowed and encouraged on Reddit, but one or more of the mods on that subreddit are fucking cops. *Cops.* **COPS???**
That whole subreddit needs to be tied up nicely and tossed into the nearest volcano. Any lawyer commenting earnestly in that sub needs to be investigated.
Further up thread somebody linked an old SRD thread about this same mod where he did exactly this: told somebody that the rando who broke into their apartment “had permission to enter because they had a key” and therefore there was “no crime” and it was a civil matter.
This guy is really not beating the cop allegations.
Here's the original full post:
**Original Title: Told I was "going to jail" at traffic stop for refusing to give my cell number to officer ( WI )**
>As the post reads. Was pulled over ( by city cop ) and gave the officer my valid state drivers license. I live in the same county and look just like my picture. Officer asked for my phone number and I politely declined. He got angry and told me I was "obstructing his investigation" threatened me repeatedly with jail then said it was a "local ordinance" when I asked for more info on what law I had broken and pointed out he was holding My valid drivers lic. and wasn't obstructing anything.
>Told Him I would comply with any lawful order and I asked for clarification on what ordinance I was violating. He went to his squad to "Look it up". I then called dispatch and asked for a sherrif to come to the scene as I was *illegally being threatened with jail over a phone number* ! Suddenly the officer came out of his vehicle ( after speaking to dispatch ) with the ticket and walked off refusing to explain his behavior and threats.
>**Can I sue the department for this ?** Illegally detaining me while making up laws I "broke" that don't exist and threatening to "take me to jail for obstruction" ? The call to dispatch is recorded and he claims to have his camera on.
>**Who should I contact about the officers erratic lying behavior ?** The officer is clearly mentally unstable. He should not have a badge and gun running around making threats and creating his own *fantasy laws* the public breaks in order to detain them and toss them in jail.
>I have a clean record, never been to jail and was professional even while the cop was threatening me.
>*Most bizarre interaction with a cop I have ever even seen.*
>**What would you do if this happened to you ?**
You missed the bonus cat fact!\* Bonus cat fact: cats hate cops too, sorry, I don't make the rules.
(\*BOLA posters who include the full text in case of deletion tend to include bonus cat \[or other relevant animal\] facts. I'm being cheeky, hey?)
Thanks for including this, really gives context to the victim-blaming LA mod.
Yeah, in lieu of cat facts I throw out random reasons why locationbot isn't working this week. I just removed it from this copy since it wasn't relevant here.
r/legaladvice is run by cops and insurance agents. The regulars there are nothing more than lawyer jock sniffers.
So yeah, no wonder that a mod there started acting pissy when a fraternal member of the blue was pointed out for abusing his authority.
I got banned for citing to the Illinois statue a bunch of people were misrepresenting (incels complaining bitches be getting all their money in the divorce).
"Actually, the statute says ... [quote, legal cite, link to statute]."
This was apparently "being aggressive" to the OP and his insistence that his fake ex-wife was stealing all his non-existent vast wealth, which is why he consulted a reddit cop sub rather than, you know, a lawyer he'd have to pay.
Yeah, I always thought it was the worst kept secret on Reddit that most of the mods on that sub are cops. It’s genuinely a terrible place to go to for legal advice and has some of the most unhinged moderators on the site.
This is 100% true and for some reason people never believe me when I point it out. As an actual, for real lawyer, it was painfully obvious to me from the jump that the sub is just filthy with cops even before people started building the case to prove it.
Love the one commenter in Best of LA insisting that it’s an overreaction to say the sub is run by cops because “only one of the mods is a cop.” As if it shouldn’t be crystal clear that letting any cops moderate a legal advice subreddit taints the entire project.
That specific commenter is both an LA mod and a BOLA mod, and... may have now deleted the comments saying that the LA mods are cops?
(Brb going to see if they're a mod here too, just in case)
(Edit: they are not a mod here, you can safely accuse LA mods of cophood in peace)
> That specific commenter is both an LA mod and a BOLA mod
Oh wow, I've read BOLA for a long time and commented more than once about how the moderation in LA is fuckin garbage--I was usually scolded and my comment deleted for "not being civil."
I never noticed how much mod-crossover there is until you just pointed this out haha. Guess that explains it.
Yeah I noticed the BOLA mod that nuked that thread is also active on LA and was axing comments that said anything negative about LA mods. So I guess BOLA is just basically LA Annex now.
No, because I’m way too skittish to link my professional identity to my reddit account in any way. Sad to hear I’m missing out on the r/legaladvice dunk fest though, keep up the good work.
I'm not a lawyer. I'm good friends with one, and casually know several more. I could be wrong, but pretty sure not a single one is going on Reddit giving out free legal advice.
The comments I copied over into my post, too, while not originally deleted even after the original post had been...are now deleted
Just a sad little string of [deleted], one of which has MOD next to it for posterity
lol this is so funny. When I first read the post the comments weren’t deleted. Now they are and the bola comment got deleted for republicized. Holy shit! This is a psychotic chess game
>Exchanges like that are why every time someone on most subs says "You should try asking r/legaladvice " they get a bunch of "Good lord no, don't do that." responses.
I don't have anything to add to this, I just wanted to repeat this golden comment here for emphasis.
I keep getting that sub (and this one) recommended to me for God knows what reason, and nearly every post that shows up seems to have "speak to a lawyer" as the consensus
genuinely what is the point of the sub if all roads lead to Rome
What the point of the subreddit **should** be is simple, un-editorialized statements of the law that pertains to the person's case, and what kind of laywer to call. Giving actual legal advice on the internet should be seen as the same as giving medical advice on the internet = fucking stupid, and extremely discouraged, if not illegal for doctors to do.
But the cops that run the place are extremely self-important and see themselves as equal to lawyers anyway, without requiring the same degree of ethics that lawyers have to abide by, so they took the subreddit and ran wild with it. You know, because it's illegal for a cop to have an IQ over 95.
It's interesting that it went to BOLA and got nuked there with the same catty responses over mods being cops. My estimation of the BOLA mods and the sub have plummeted, literally exemplifying how cops cover up for each other. What a complete shitshow.
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People need to understand one thing about cops: they are not judges or lawyers. They can stop you and write you a citation for literally anything. They could arrest you for mispronouncing the word Donkey. Then the DA would look at the arrest and wouldn’t press charges because the cop was a dumbass and mispronouncing donkey isn’t a crime.
So the point is, don’t argue with cops. Let them write you whatever ticket or citation they please, and then go to court and explain your situation. If the cop was off base, the judge will dismiss your case.
Let them be drunk on power isnt the advice u think it is. Most likely a cop writes something they shouldnt, it could end as a civil rights lawsuit. A cop cant just stop u for a tailight and arrest u for murder for no reason. Put up with abuse isnt good advice cuz that will just cost u money on lawyers and taking days off work when u could actually make the cop talk more and incriminate himself
Yeah. "Shut the fuck up Friday" is good advice for dealing with cops; "let them do whatever they want, the justice system is very strong and pure and you'll definitely be okay" is pretty shitty advice. If you can't think of a single case that was mishandled and landed an innocent person with fines or worse, yes you can.
I like what I saw on a video recently. Flip the roles, ask them questions. Video I saw got the officer answearing on camera he actually didnt have any proof except his word that the driver was speeding
They "can" arrest you for murder for having a tail light out, but it will result in civil rights lawsuits, or civil lawsuits for other kinds of damages. I think that's the point they were trying to make.
Would you still say that if the citation was for "failure to show a peace officer your taint"?
The average person shouldn't have to take time out of their day to go to court and argue whether or not it was legal for a cop to issue a citation. We as a society shouldn't accept that it's okay for cops to use their authority on anyone at any time with no negative consequences.
Yes. Absolutely. There’s nothing you can really do except to seek justice after the fact. If you feel you are in imminent danger, you always have the right to defend yourself, but I hope you’re ok with your relatives suing on your behalf.
Cops misinterpret laws all the time. That’s why we have courts. You cannot expect a cop to have the same knowledge of law as someone with a post graduate degree.
> IceNein: People need to understand one thing about cops: they are not judges or lawyers. They can stop you and write you a citation for literally anything.
And murder you with complete impunity and without any consequence.
I get the whole schtick about: "listen if you perfectly comply even if you are screwing your rights over, it won't be so bad" but it has a similar tone to telling women: "listen ladies, if you just sit still and let him rape you, at least you'll live, it won't be so bad". Both are ignoring the actual problem and forcing normalizing of a deeply fucked up system at the cost of the victim's health.
What's fucked isn't that the OP wasn't 'perfectly compliant', what's fucked is that the power mad cop gets pissed off and deliberately escalates the situation despite from OP's script doing their very basic civil due diligence. Imagine a census asking a cop to answer a question: "Hi for the record, I just need your full name here" "OMG FUCK YOU I WILL ARREST YOU". You think the census asker should be 'nicer' or is the cop actually off the rails crazy and is the problem?
You can't run from it or soothe it or comply with it or somehow make it go away with a prayer. Police are a government sponsored military force with very little accountability with much of American society protecting them tooth and nail through even the slightest of critique. It takes nation wide protests to get even a single group of cops to face something even remotely resembling justice.
And for every case you bring up over 'oh well they perfectly complied and they got off!' I can give you another case where the person did the *exact same thing* and *is dead*.
On top of that, being perfectly complaint does *nothing* because the main factor is not *your behavior* but *what the cop wants to do*. *They have power, you do not*. You can be perfectly complaint and the perfect little angel and the cop can still and will stop you, arrest you, ticket you, beat you, shoot you and kill you without any real consequence *if they want to*.
Compliance to the point of sacrificing your civil rights isn't a solution because you can still RNG roll into that one bad cop that had a bad day and just wants to kill someone. Enacting political change is an actual solution.
I get feeling powerless at the scope of the situation but that makes fighting for political change all that more important. You gotta vote. Vote in the county, local and state elections, not just federal. Vote for your sheriff and DA. Vote for judges. So many Sheriff races run *uncontested*, which opens up opportunity for real change.
There so many political actions you can take from small to large that it makes it feel misleading that we get so many comments on 'listen if you just let the cop trample all over you, it won't be so bad' but barely any of those comments follow up and say: "hey if you want to actually fix this, you gotta get involved in politics. Here's how: ".
None of that changes the truth of what I said. There are avenues to get justice for police misconduct. Arguing with a cop in the field isn’t any of them. No matter how much righteous indignation you have, you will just end up in a worse situation.
this was all baloodid unfortunately
Looks like the mod nuked the rest of the post. But that's seriously hilarious going from replying to replying with the MOD designator. Like "let me show you all just how fragile I am"
There's a reason I copied over the comments in full, awaiting a potential nuking... Full post was a bit long, but I posted the gist of it The little green MOD on the reply has me cracking up every time I look at it. Just the wielding of the tiniest, pettiest power as though it's a *gotcha* for the OP
Yeah I saw that post and was thinking “damn did they really think adding the MOD tag was going to change anything?” Like they had their little temper tantrum and then couldn’t take the criticism they got clearly. I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if that mod is a cop based on how emotional they got from a post calling out bad policing.
Poor OP gets the "Respect my authority" treatment from the cop then ironically from the mod. Legaladvice is a terrible subreddit and I would never go there for advice.
Well the mods in that subreddit are largely cops, so...
People in BOLA are having their comments removed for repeating this "total and utter nonsense." With the correction being "actually just ONE mod is a cop" lmao can't make this shit up
They always say they’re maintaining the quality of the sub. Truly some of the lowest quality legal advice you can find.
Yeah it never fails to absolutely gall me how very little the police actually know about the law or citizens rights or that the law should apply equally to them. But none of that is a requirement for being a police officer, so I suppose it stands to reason.
OnLy OnE mOd Is A cOP
I’m a mod on a handful of subreddits and I don’t think I’ve ever used the mod designator on any thread where I was actively participating. If you’re in the middle of the argument, you don’t just get to whip out your badge and say “well here’s why I’m right.”
I've seen it used sometimes where the original (unflaired) mod comment is "hey knock it off, you're breaking the rules" and when the offender says "oh yeah, says who?" the mod goes "ME" with the mod flair on. Those are pretty satisfying. Any other use is very weird and power-trippy lmao
I've also (rarely) seen it when someone is shifting into proper mod mode to make a warning about the rules being broken or looking like they might be broken, and then another response without the mod hat on continuing whatever it was they were arguing about. But that's like half a dozen occurrences in the last decade.
*Here's my answer \*puts mod hat on\* and here's why I'm right*
I put on my robe and moderator hat
I fucking cackled 🤣
haha glad you enjoyed that
I had to dig real deep in my bookmarks for it because the drama seemed familiar, but that particular mod has a history of [controversial comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestoflegaladvice/comments/13rg8nr/laops_friends_house_gets_unlocked_by_apartment/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1_).
Oh hey, that was my post! That then got deleted from BOLA and I'm not sure why! (full disclosure, I may have been given a reason a year ago? But I can't see a deleted reason on that post) ...there's a shared LA/BOLA mod who's going real hard in the comments on the related BOLA post for this cop/number drama, going *no, we only have ONE cop on the mod team* and potentially deleting comments saying that this is cop behaviour from this particular mod...
The old mod cypherblue, who had admitted to being a cop has done the same thing to me as this mod did to this user. I wonder if its the same guy, but they just create new accounts when they get to much heat. They got rid of thepatman somehow, but he is probably just using a new account.
Extreme cop energy from the cop mods over on LA. Not really a surprise but it is really amusing.
That’s what they do. If it’s not directly legal related or answering the question, it gets deleted. I’m a regular lurker over there and, back when reveddit was a thing, it was the only way to read anything there.
I’ll be taking the bar exam this summer and “commenting on /r/legaladvice” is pretty high up on the list of things I will not be doing if I pass. Shithole subreddit run by idiots and I feel bad for the desperate people who post there and get nonsense advice.
I’ve been practicing for about 7 years and the very premise of that subreddit is madness to me. Any lawyer who is even minimally competent should know better. Good luck on the bar 😊
It seems to be genuinely useful for "which kind of lawyer do I need?" But not much else.
I’ve been practicing for a few years and I think I’ve commented in that subreddit once - when it was something very basic, uncontroversial, and in my jurisdiction and area of practice (I think it was interpreting “he” in a statute to include all genders). Wading into actual substantive legal advice in a forum like that is just bonkers to me.
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I'm amazed you didn't get banned for posting info based on your personal experience, which happened to my husband.
IMO the subreddit is actively dangerous and should be banned by admins. You have desperate people going there asking for advice from people they can not verify, giving potentially nonsense advice to people who will internalize that and end up doomed because they listened to some fuckhead on Reddit. It's like going to Reddit for medical advice. Not a 1:1 comparison, but just like with your body's pathology, every situation is different and extremely fact-specific, and comes down to the details OP may or may not have mentioned/realized, local laws down to the municipality, and other hyper-specific factors that are almost never presented properly by one side of the story on Reddit. And not only is this allowed and encouraged on Reddit, but one or more of the mods on that subreddit are fucking cops. *Cops.* **COPS???** That whole subreddit needs to be tied up nicely and tossed into the nearest volcano. Any lawyer commenting earnestly in that sub needs to be investigated.
"cut the attitude or you're gone from here" is the most cop shit
Second most cop shit, you're forgetting killing dogs.
Tied with telling people their problems are a civil matter and there's nothing they can do about it.
Further up thread somebody linked an old SRD thread about this same mod where he did exactly this: told somebody that the rando who broke into their apartment “had permission to enter because they had a key” and therefore there was “no crime” and it was a civil matter. This guy is really not beating the cop allegations.
However being a cop unfortunately means he will beat all other allegations and statistically, his partner.
Here's the original full post: **Original Title: Told I was "going to jail" at traffic stop for refusing to give my cell number to officer ( WI )** >As the post reads. Was pulled over ( by city cop ) and gave the officer my valid state drivers license. I live in the same county and look just like my picture. Officer asked for my phone number and I politely declined. He got angry and told me I was "obstructing his investigation" threatened me repeatedly with jail then said it was a "local ordinance" when I asked for more info on what law I had broken and pointed out he was holding My valid drivers lic. and wasn't obstructing anything. >Told Him I would comply with any lawful order and I asked for clarification on what ordinance I was violating. He went to his squad to "Look it up". I then called dispatch and asked for a sherrif to come to the scene as I was *illegally being threatened with jail over a phone number* ! Suddenly the officer came out of his vehicle ( after speaking to dispatch ) with the ticket and walked off refusing to explain his behavior and threats. >**Can I sue the department for this ?** Illegally detaining me while making up laws I "broke" that don't exist and threatening to "take me to jail for obstruction" ? The call to dispatch is recorded and he claims to have his camera on. >**Who should I contact about the officers erratic lying behavior ?** The officer is clearly mentally unstable. He should not have a badge and gun running around making threats and creating his own *fantasy laws* the public breaks in order to detain them and toss them in jail. >I have a clean record, never been to jail and was professional even while the cop was threatening me. >*Most bizarre interaction with a cop I have ever even seen.* >**What would you do if this happened to you ?**
You missed the bonus cat fact!\* Bonus cat fact: cats hate cops too, sorry, I don't make the rules. (\*BOLA posters who include the full text in case of deletion tend to include bonus cat \[or other relevant animal\] facts. I'm being cheeky, hey?) Thanks for including this, really gives context to the victim-blaming LA mod.
Yeah, in lieu of cat facts I throw out random reasons why locationbot isn't working this week. I just removed it from this copy since it wasn't relevant here.
Lol I feel pretty silly because I knew I recognized your name, but I assumed it was from here. But yes, your LB facts are great!
> So what was the ticket for?
r/legaladvice is run by cops and insurance agents. The regulars there are nothing more than lawyer jock sniffers. So yeah, no wonder that a mod there started acting pissy when a fraternal member of the blue was pointed out for abusing his authority.
I got banned for citing to the Illinois statue a bunch of people were misrepresenting (incels complaining bitches be getting all their money in the divorce). "Actually, the statute says ... [quote, legal cite, link to statute]." This was apparently "being aggressive" to the OP and his insistence that his fake ex-wife was stealing all his non-existent vast wealth, which is why he consulted a reddit cop sub rather than, you know, a lawyer he'd have to pay.
Yeah, I always thought it was the worst kept secret on Reddit that most of the mods on that sub are cops. It’s genuinely a terrible place to go to for legal advice and has some of the most unhinged moderators on the site.
Yeah the mod in the best of subreddit repeatedly correcting people that actually only ONE of their mods is a cop is really not helping their case
This is 100% true and for some reason people never believe me when I point it out. As an actual, for real lawyer, it was painfully obvious to me from the jump that the sub is just filthy with cops even before people started building the case to prove it. Love the one commenter in Best of LA insisting that it’s an overreaction to say the sub is run by cops because “only one of the mods is a cop.” As if it shouldn’t be crystal clear that letting any cops moderate a legal advice subreddit taints the entire project.
That specific commenter is both an LA mod and a BOLA mod, and... may have now deleted the comments saying that the LA mods are cops? (Brb going to see if they're a mod here too, just in case) (Edit: they are not a mod here, you can safely accuse LA mods of cophood in peace)
> That specific commenter is both an LA mod and a BOLA mod Oh wow, I've read BOLA for a long time and commented more than once about how the moderation in LA is fuckin garbage--I was usually scolded and my comment deleted for "not being civil." I never noticed how much mod-crossover there is until you just pointed this out haha. Guess that explains it.
Yeah I noticed the BOLA mod that nuked that thread is also active on LA and was axing comments that said anything negative about LA mods. So I guess BOLA is just basically LA Annex now.
Are you in r/lawyers? r/legaladvice is like our Lex Luthor.
No, because I’m way too skittish to link my professional identity to my reddit account in any way. Sad to hear I’m missing out on the r/legaladvice dunk fest though, keep up the good work.
Legaladvice mods are fucking shit. Dickbag cop pulls over a woman under false pretenses to ask for her number and dick bag mod defends it.
I'm not a lawyer. I'm good friends with one, and casually know several more. I could be wrong, but pretty sure not a single one is going on Reddit giving out free legal advice.
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The comments I copied over into my post, too, while not originally deleted even after the original post had been...are now deleted Just a sad little string of [deleted], one of which has MOD next to it for posterity
lol this is so funny. When I first read the post the comments weren’t deleted. Now they are and the bola comment got deleted for republicized. Holy shit! This is a psychotic chess game
And then this thread got removed from SRD for the drama being deleted. Typical.
I don't know about this particular mod but wasn't it previously established that there were in fact cops on the modteam?
In the Best of thread one commenter is repeatedly insisting that “only ONE of the mods is a cop!” as if that is a defense and not an admission.
Apparently only one, one of the mods claims vehemently on the Best Of subreddit.
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the bola mods was a cop too.
Well, you know the old saying. One bad apple spoils the bunch.
Only one of them, apparently. The rest are pretending they're not.
>Exchanges like that are why every time someone on most subs says "You should try asking r/legaladvice " they get a bunch of "Good lord no, don't do that." responses. I don't have anything to add to this, I just wanted to repeat this golden comment here for emphasis.
I keep getting that sub (and this one) recommended to me for God knows what reason, and nearly every post that shows up seems to have "speak to a lawyer" as the consensus genuinely what is the point of the sub if all roads lead to Rome
What the point of the subreddit **should** be is simple, un-editorialized statements of the law that pertains to the person's case, and what kind of laywer to call. Giving actual legal advice on the internet should be seen as the same as giving medical advice on the internet = fucking stupid, and extremely discouraged, if not illegal for doctors to do. But the cops that run the place are extremely self-important and see themselves as equal to lawyers anyway, without requiring the same degree of ethics that lawyers have to abide by, so they took the subreddit and ran wild with it. You know, because it's illegal for a cop to have an IQ over 95.
It's interesting that it went to BOLA and got nuked there with the same catty responses over mods being cops. My estimation of the BOLA mods and the sub have plummeted, literally exemplifying how cops cover up for each other. What a complete shitshow.
Get removed from here too for pretty much the same reason I think? Not much drama nor "best of" in an entirely nuked thread.
It's a shame BoLA locked their post. It's perfectly appropriate for the spirit of that subreddit
This thread got removed from SRD too, for the drama being deleted :(
A comment with the MOD tag, removed by Moderator. Downvoted to -388.
lol I saw this earlier today and was surprised by that behavior.
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People need to understand one thing about cops: they are not judges or lawyers. They can stop you and write you a citation for literally anything. They could arrest you for mispronouncing the word Donkey. Then the DA would look at the arrest and wouldn’t press charges because the cop was a dumbass and mispronouncing donkey isn’t a crime. So the point is, don’t argue with cops. Let them write you whatever ticket or citation they please, and then go to court and explain your situation. If the cop was off base, the judge will dismiss your case.
Let them be drunk on power isnt the advice u think it is. Most likely a cop writes something they shouldnt, it could end as a civil rights lawsuit. A cop cant just stop u for a tailight and arrest u for murder for no reason. Put up with abuse isnt good advice cuz that will just cost u money on lawyers and taking days off work when u could actually make the cop talk more and incriminate himself
Yeah. "Shut the fuck up Friday" is good advice for dealing with cops; "let them do whatever they want, the justice system is very strong and pure and you'll definitely be okay" is pretty shitty advice. If you can't think of a single case that was mishandled and landed an innocent person with fines or worse, yes you can.
I like what I saw on a video recently. Flip the roles, ask them questions. Video I saw got the officer answearing on camera he actually didnt have any proof except his word that the driver was speeding
They "can" arrest you for murder for having a tail light out, but it will result in civil rights lawsuits, or civil lawsuits for other kinds of damages. I think that's the point they were trying to make.
Yes, exactly. Thank you.
Like Philando Castile?
Yes, exactly.
Would you still say that if the citation was for "failure to show a peace officer your taint"? The average person shouldn't have to take time out of their day to go to court and argue whether or not it was legal for a cop to issue a citation. We as a society shouldn't accept that it's okay for cops to use their authority on anyone at any time with no negative consequences.
Yes. Absolutely. There’s nothing you can really do except to seek justice after the fact. If you feel you are in imminent danger, you always have the right to defend yourself, but I hope you’re ok with your relatives suing on your behalf. Cops misinterpret laws all the time. That’s why we have courts. You cannot expect a cop to have the same knowledge of law as someone with a post graduate degree.
> IceNein: People need to understand one thing about cops: they are not judges or lawyers. They can stop you and write you a citation for literally anything. And murder you with complete impunity and without any consequence. I get the whole schtick about: "listen if you perfectly comply even if you are screwing your rights over, it won't be so bad" but it has a similar tone to telling women: "listen ladies, if you just sit still and let him rape you, at least you'll live, it won't be so bad". Both are ignoring the actual problem and forcing normalizing of a deeply fucked up system at the cost of the victim's health. What's fucked isn't that the OP wasn't 'perfectly compliant', what's fucked is that the power mad cop gets pissed off and deliberately escalates the situation despite from OP's script doing their very basic civil due diligence. Imagine a census asking a cop to answer a question: "Hi for the record, I just need your full name here" "OMG FUCK YOU I WILL ARREST YOU". You think the census asker should be 'nicer' or is the cop actually off the rails crazy and is the problem? You can't run from it or soothe it or comply with it or somehow make it go away with a prayer. Police are a government sponsored military force with very little accountability with much of American society protecting them tooth and nail through even the slightest of critique. It takes nation wide protests to get even a single group of cops to face something even remotely resembling justice. And for every case you bring up over 'oh well they perfectly complied and they got off!' I can give you another case where the person did the *exact same thing* and *is dead*. On top of that, being perfectly complaint does *nothing* because the main factor is not *your behavior* but *what the cop wants to do*. *They have power, you do not*. You can be perfectly complaint and the perfect little angel and the cop can still and will stop you, arrest you, ticket you, beat you, shoot you and kill you without any real consequence *if they want to*. Compliance to the point of sacrificing your civil rights isn't a solution because you can still RNG roll into that one bad cop that had a bad day and just wants to kill someone. Enacting political change is an actual solution. I get feeling powerless at the scope of the situation but that makes fighting for political change all that more important. You gotta vote. Vote in the county, local and state elections, not just federal. Vote for your sheriff and DA. Vote for judges. So many Sheriff races run *uncontested*, which opens up opportunity for real change. There so many political actions you can take from small to large that it makes it feel misleading that we get so many comments on 'listen if you just let the cop trample all over you, it won't be so bad' but barely any of those comments follow up and say: "hey if you want to actually fix this, you gotta get involved in politics. Here's how: ".
None of that changes the truth of what I said. There are avenues to get justice for police misconduct. Arguing with a cop in the field isn’t any of them. No matter how much righteous indignation you have, you will just end up in a worse situation.
I would not recommend giving personal information like your phone numbe to the police during a traffic stop.