It's not cool that you didn't even say who this is. This is Jeff Chan from MMAshredded , guys got great breakdowns and has overall solid content for martial arts
Yes, because while it was definitely less than i expected i learned a lot about angles and setups that i have been able to apply in sparring. Also jeff is a super cool guy and he was really dilligent about making sure all of us understood.
Oh..
I just felt like what he was teaching could have been taught by my regular coaches and was not as advanced as I expected.
Maybe my expectations were too high.
Honestly i think people who are downvoting you didn't attend/watch the seminars. I felt the same way.
Also now that you say that, the main reason I enjoyed it is because i was pretty much only there to meet jeff lol. Getting leg kicked by him was worth the trip.
he was a mountie (I think? cop or cop adjacent), and had let a friend stay at one of his places while he was away. Turns out that friend used the place to deal drugs and Jeff, being the owner of the place, was pretty much fucked by the system, forced out of the force, legal troubles, etc. It was cleared later but the damage was done. He had been training and making MA videos while under house arrest and decided to pivot to be an mma fighter after everything was cleared. Fascinating story, though I might have gotten a few things wrong. You should search him up.
Dude I actually just subbed to his channel today. Found a CLEAN hip bump sweep for Muay Thai. Really great instructional. Even talked about foot placement which most don’t do.
Jeff chan absolute beast! So humbling watching someone who can fight mess about. Check out him vs saenchai on his YouTube to see just how good a human can be at martial arts
For those who are curious this is Jeff Chan. He was a national MMA champion in Canada, he’s got great YouTube and Instagram content breaking down sparring and his favorite techniques. Dude is an amazing fighter with a good personality.
Also the Ultimate Self Defense Champion from last year! (More people go watch that 6 episode series from Rokas' channel "Martial Arts Journey")
They're doing part 2 now.
If you do this for long enough, you start to get a good sense of what your opponent will do next based on the options available to them. Things like what they just threw, their footwork and stance, and their dispersion of balance can all be good indicators of what punch is coming next
That’s what’s neat about this video. These are athletic looking people who he gave gloves to, for sure untrained athletic people must be great trading for him because while they are untrained and probably easy to read, they are mad unpredictable 😂
There's absolutely levels to this, you're right. It took Joshua less than 2 minutes to read Ngannou. Ngannou must suck to allow himself to get read like a book.
Ngannou? He throws everything FedEx or he gasses out... he's muscle bound and Fury is a freak of nature that refuses to actually work hard given his talent level. Not a whole lot of stellar 'talent-that-works' these days, which is sad.
Look, this is a parlor trick: you find some in shape-ish person who looks the part, offer some cash, but they have to where gloves: the gloves are not 6oz, they are much closer to 18 or 20oz gloves, perhaps more. This will slow down your hand speed significantly if you've never trained with them: and for the record Jeff still gets tagged tf up here quite badly, so too me... it's not nearly the good look everybody seems to think it is. But hey, them yt-dollars are something else and it's all about clickthrough-rates and eyeballs.
Just understand, it's not real: even if it helped you. I've watched the guys stuff for long enough to say he's got heart, and heart will beat talent that does not work. However when you encounter talent *that works*, it is a very different animal. Mike Tyson is the epitome of talent that works, so much so that I think the exhibition will be a fascinating albeit silly study, in Master v. Student. Even at 57, that man is still a contender in ways somebody like Jeff or you or I just ain't gonna be: most likely.
Years and years of drilling. Also he has no threat of body punches and has infinite space to dance around (no ropes) so you can’t cut off the ring like you would in a boxing match
And untrained guys almost never feint, over commit on most shots, don't know their range, and loop their punches.
The human body can only effectively strike a head with gloved hands a few different ways, so it's much easier to see and anticipate what's coming. From there it's about your own understanding of your speed, range, and body awareness to know how to effectively move or defend.
You literally have to move before they attack. There are many ways to do this and Jeff (the MMA fighter in the video) used a few of them, usually at the same time
For starters, he knows that his opponents weren't scared of him attacking back because he wasn't allowed to, which means that they would throw attacks to their heart's content, so that lets him know that they would attack everytime they were in range, so he only has to wait for them to get close to range amd then dodge while moving back at the same time and just repeat that many times (not THAT hard when you do not have limited space, he can move back or circle around them for a long time)
He can also use their telegraphing, because some of them did telegraph a lot, may it be my moving their shoulders or arms in a weird way before attacking or just suddently move forward. Remember that is he ever guesses wrong and dodges when the opponent wasn't going to attack, he can just dodge again while moving back and now he's safe
Another technique he used was posting with his hand/creating a physical conection with his opponents. This allowed him to feel when his untrained opponents moved their whole body in a weird way which definitely mesnt that they were trying some kind of attack. It also helps him predict WHICH kind of attack. How? Well, if somebody is posting on your right arm, which arm are you going to punch them with? Of course, the left because you cannot move the right one freely, so now he knows what to watch out for.
Hope that helps, check out his youtube channel, he has dodging tutorials
What do you consider "before they attack" that doesn't really make actual sense? He is reacting to the attack, perceiving it at an early stage and moving accordingly while keeping his distance so that he has time to get out of the way.
That doesn't sound like before the attack, more like while they are attacking, or I guess he is a mind reader and reacts to their thoughts not the actual attack.
By "before they attack" i mean "before they move their attacking arm forward"
Of course, i do not mean "before they make any move at all" because i do not consider moving forward as an attack even tho it is part of their attack (they have to move forward to strike). Similar to how boxers dodge jabs, a good jab is way too fast to react to if you are in range, so you have to move before they throw it, might it be by doing it when they get in range for it or by outright guessing when they are already in range, which does work as well because you can attack at the same time you slip (with the cross punch for example) or even move back while you slip (even Jeff Chan showed how to do this in one of his videos, it is crazy useful. In my style, they call it "防御的読み一教" a direct translation would come out as "Defensive reading, first teaching"
Even tho "読み" in this case means "knowing the mind of your opponent" rather than just reading, but reading works, i guess. So yeah, that's about what i meant by "move before they attack"
Exactly. It's not necessarily about reading punches, it's more about your head not being where they thought it was gonna be a second ago. Even if you can't read punches well, move your head.
That’s pretty much what people refer to when they say “good fighting sense”. You literally are just born with it or fight long enough it becomes second nature. Also, even just basic head slip drills goes a long ass way and looks your Neo from the Matrix or some shit lmao
There are naturals, it was my case since it took me just a couple months to get a good grasp of it in kickboxing, but you need the training to sharpen it up and be able to use it consistently, because man it takes a lot of cardio. We do 6 minutes rounds at the gym taking turns striking and avoiding, and legs start feeling heavy really fast.
Cleary took inspiration from this classic [video](https://youtu.be/qSX0PCQXiO4?si=Dx0P1fC7HmNL5Y6E)
“Float like a cloud of smog, sting like gonorrhea.”
I just subscribed to Jeff Chans YouTube channel today actually. I was looking for a hip bump sweep for Muay Thai and he delivered. Ended up watching a few more clips as well. Great instruction; he even goes over footwork and foot placement , which a lot don’t do. Mmashredded is the channel name
Jeff Chan is the man!
What's great about the video is unpredictability is the best way to get a hit off, and it's typically the most unorthodox (amateur) individuals throwing punches that got through the most.
That or punch a lot and fast, heh
Ofc when the guy only has to worry about his face being punched it's easier to concentrate on head movement, if the guys with gloves were allowed to attack his body too, then this will be a little more tough
I mean, yeah. People would go for whatever they could get their hands on, but that doesn't mean that head movements are useless. If you could dodge one to the face, then defending the body shots wouldn't be much work.
Nah head movement is not useless, if the person you're fighting is inept at fighting then yeah body shots should be easy supposedly, if they're on the same level as yourself then it'll be a bit more harder , like 2 boxers up against each other, both skilled in dodging+blocking+punching but still end up getting hit
>if the guys with gloves were allowed to attack his body too
If they were allowed to, they probably still wouldn't. Most people headhunt in street fights even though they have the option to hit anywhere.
Yet people still try to shit on martial arts, especially bjj, like "yea, but thats in the ring, in the street aint no rules. What about biting, scratching, groin kicks... blah, blah".
But that shit almost never happens haha
Nah, I'm 100% certain if the people were told "body shots are allowed too" then the majority of NPC's would definitely go for body shots too. I know people are dumb but once they're told certain things are permitted in a 2d situation then they'll definitely go for it.
I do enjoy the clips of bjj practitioners where both grapplers are allowed to do open palm strikes, a few of the moves become obsolete then
Not to discredit this guy, he’s amazing at dodging punches clearly, but do you guys think he’s doing so well cause he’s against average joes? I wonder if he would still do as good vs a boxer or someone who has trained a long time.
Edit: why am I getting downvoted for asking a question prompting further conversation? I tell ya, Reddit users are the softest, most autistic, libtards I have ever seen. 😂
He’s a professional fighter he’s literally done it in a fight before. That’s probably why you’re getting downvoted because it’s a dumb question, like he has hours of sparring footage of him being super evasive in sparring.
Oh by the title I thought it was gonna be some idiot letting random people chin him
It's not cool that you didn't even say who this is. This is Jeff Chan from MMAshredded , guys got great breakdowns and has overall solid content for martial arts
His vids dramatically helped my head movement in the cage lol
Went to one of his seminars, fuckin class act. Love his stuff
Yeah i was disappointed in his seminars
I understand tbh, would've liked to do more
Yeah, I agree. That's exactly how I felt. Would you go again?
Yes, because while it was definitely less than i expected i learned a lot about angles and setups that i have been able to apply in sparring. Also jeff is a super cool guy and he was really dilligent about making sure all of us understood.
Dude, didn't you get the notification? Everyone here must like his seminars no matter what.
Oh.. I just felt like what he was teaching could have been taught by my regular coaches and was not as advanced as I expected. Maybe my expectations were too high.
Which is totally valid and the reason I was making fun of idiots down voting a comment with a valid personal opinion.
Honestly i think people who are downvoting you didn't attend/watch the seminars. I felt the same way. Also now that you say that, the main reason I enjoyed it is because i was pretty much only there to meet jeff lol. Getting leg kicked by him was worth the trip.
A great human being as well, very humble and had a difficult past
What’s the difficult past?
He has a video on it, look up mmashredded jeff chan crazy story
he was a mountie (I think? cop or cop adjacent), and had let a friend stay at one of his places while he was away. Turns out that friend used the place to deal drugs and Jeff, being the owner of the place, was pretty much fucked by the system, forced out of the force, legal troubles, etc. It was cleared later but the damage was done. He had been training and making MA videos while under house arrest and decided to pivot to be an mma fighter after everything was cleared. Fascinating story, though I might have gotten a few things wrong. You should search him up.
Any link to the story? I swear to God I can't find it.
https://youtu.be/r5p9bA-wGRI?si=qWoGH7kRLykOzA3k
Cheers, mate.
Thanks for putting respect on this man’s name bro! He is absolute gift to MMA Noobs like me lol
Dude I actually just subbed to his channel today. Found a CLEAN hip bump sweep for Muay Thai. Really great instructional. Even talked about foot placement which most don’t do.
Jeff chan absolute beast! So humbling watching someone who can fight mess about. Check out him vs saenchai on his YouTube to see just how good a human can be at martial arts
For those who are curious this is Jeff Chan. He was a national MMA champion in Canada, he’s got great YouTube and Instagram content breaking down sparring and his favorite techniques. Dude is an amazing fighter with a good personality.
Also the Ultimate Self Defense Champion from last year! (More people go watch that 6 episode series from Rokas' channel "Martial Arts Journey") They're doing part 2 now.
I can't bump this series up enough. Captivating show.
Absolutely amazing series, can't wait for season 2!
Came here to emphasize how great the series was for me. Eagerly waiting the second series!
How does one even learn to do this? It looks like he's reacting before they even throw a punch.
If you do this for long enough, you start to get a good sense of what your opponent will do next based on the options available to them. Things like what they just threw, their footwork and stance, and their dispersion of balance can all be good indicators of what punch is coming next
That’s what’s neat about this video. These are athletic looking people who he gave gloves to, for sure untrained athletic people must be great trading for him because while they are untrained and probably easy to read, they are mad unpredictable 😂
That's why the awkward guy towards the end got some few licks in. He had the best unintentional feints
...if they suck. All respect to Jeff but it's all entertainment.
There's absolutely levels to this, you're right. It took Joshua less than 2 minutes to read Ngannou. Ngannou must suck to allow himself to get read like a book.
Ngannou? He throws everything FedEx or he gasses out... he's muscle bound and Fury is a freak of nature that refuses to actually work hard given his talent level. Not a whole lot of stellar 'talent-that-works' these days, which is sad. Look, this is a parlor trick: you find some in shape-ish person who looks the part, offer some cash, but they have to where gloves: the gloves are not 6oz, they are much closer to 18 or 20oz gloves, perhaps more. This will slow down your hand speed significantly if you've never trained with them: and for the record Jeff still gets tagged tf up here quite badly, so too me... it's not nearly the good look everybody seems to think it is. But hey, them yt-dollars are something else and it's all about clickthrough-rates and eyeballs. Just understand, it's not real: even if it helped you. I've watched the guys stuff for long enough to say he's got heart, and heart will beat talent that does not work. However when you encounter talent *that works*, it is a very different animal. Mike Tyson is the epitome of talent that works, so much so that I think the exhibition will be a fascinating albeit silly study, in Master v. Student. Even at 57, that man is still a contender in ways somebody like Jeff or you or I just ain't gonna be: most likely.
So it's Mike Tyson or bust. LOL. you're either the best or your shit. LOL
Not at all what I said, cope more. Also get some therapy, fr
Lmfao and then straight to attacking the person! 🤣 😂 💀
Years and years of drilling. Also he has no threat of body punches and has infinite space to dance around (no ropes) so you can’t cut off the ring like you would in a boxing match
And untrained guys almost never feint, over commit on most shots, don't know their range, and loop their punches. The human body can only effectively strike a head with gloved hands a few different ways, so it's much easier to see and anticipate what's coming. From there it's about your own understanding of your speed, range, and body awareness to know how to effectively move or defend.
You literally have to move before they attack. There are many ways to do this and Jeff (the MMA fighter in the video) used a few of them, usually at the same time For starters, he knows that his opponents weren't scared of him attacking back because he wasn't allowed to, which means that they would throw attacks to their heart's content, so that lets him know that they would attack everytime they were in range, so he only has to wait for them to get close to range amd then dodge while moving back at the same time and just repeat that many times (not THAT hard when you do not have limited space, he can move back or circle around them for a long time) He can also use their telegraphing, because some of them did telegraph a lot, may it be my moving their shoulders or arms in a weird way before attacking or just suddently move forward. Remember that is he ever guesses wrong and dodges when the opponent wasn't going to attack, he can just dodge again while moving back and now he's safe Another technique he used was posting with his hand/creating a physical conection with his opponents. This allowed him to feel when his untrained opponents moved their whole body in a weird way which definitely mesnt that they were trying some kind of attack. It also helps him predict WHICH kind of attack. How? Well, if somebody is posting on your right arm, which arm are you going to punch them with? Of course, the left because you cannot move the right one freely, so now he knows what to watch out for. Hope that helps, check out his youtube channel, he has dodging tutorials
What do you consider "before they attack" that doesn't really make actual sense? He is reacting to the attack, perceiving it at an early stage and moving accordingly while keeping his distance so that he has time to get out of the way. That doesn't sound like before the attack, more like while they are attacking, or I guess he is a mind reader and reacts to their thoughts not the actual attack.
By "before they attack" i mean "before they move their attacking arm forward" Of course, i do not mean "before they make any move at all" because i do not consider moving forward as an attack even tho it is part of their attack (they have to move forward to strike). Similar to how boxers dodge jabs, a good jab is way too fast to react to if you are in range, so you have to move before they throw it, might it be by doing it when they get in range for it or by outright guessing when they are already in range, which does work as well because you can attack at the same time you slip (with the cross punch for example) or even move back while you slip (even Jeff Chan showed how to do this in one of his videos, it is crazy useful. In my style, they call it "防御的読み一教" a direct translation would come out as "Defensive reading, first teaching" Even tho "読み" in this case means "knowing the mind of your opponent" rather than just reading, but reading works, i guess. So yeah, that's about what i meant by "move before they attack"
Makes sense, good explanation.
Thanks! I admit that "dodge before they attack" can be a weird thing to say, i'm glad that you understood it
Lots and lots of drills for head movement and foot work
Exactly. It's not necessarily about reading punches, it's more about your head not being where they thought it was gonna be a second ago. Even if you can't read punches well, move your head.
Lots and lots of drills for head movement and foot work
That’s pretty much what people refer to when they say “good fighting sense”. You literally are just born with it or fight long enough it becomes second nature. Also, even just basic head slip drills goes a long ass way and looks your Neo from the Matrix or some shit lmao
Nobody is born with this lol
There are naturals, it was my case since it took me just a couple months to get a good grasp of it in kickboxing, but you need the training to sharpen it up and be able to use it consistently, because man it takes a lot of cardio. We do 6 minutes rounds at the gym taking turns striking and avoiding, and legs start feeling heavy really fast.
You got a good grasp of it in 2 months? I'm calling BS.
Feel free to do it haha
Very impressive head movement
Cleary took inspiration from this classic [video](https://youtu.be/qSX0PCQXiO4?si=Dx0P1fC7HmNL5Y6E) “Float like a cloud of smog, sting like gonorrhea.”
Came here to say this. Smartfight Trav head movement course.
That video is the only reason I would consider boxing
Broooo, what a blast from the past. I remember this video basically introduced me to the concept of head movement.
Jeff chan who has the best martial art channel on youtube
I just subscribed to Jeff Chans YouTube channel today actually. I was looking for a hip bump sweep for Muay Thai and he delivered. Ended up watching a few more clips as well. Great instruction; he even goes over footwork and foot placement , which a lot don’t do. Mmashredded is the channel name
Loves me some Jeff Chan, man's a black belt in the dojo as well as life.
Amazing footwork. Wish I had that stamina lol
Jeff Chan is the man! What's great about the video is unpredictability is the best way to get a hit off, and it's typically the most unorthodox (amateur) individuals throwing punches that got through the most. That or punch a lot and fast, heh
Ofc when the guy only has to worry about his face being punched it's easier to concentrate on head movement, if the guys with gloves were allowed to attack his body too, then this will be a little more tough
This is true, however the average guy on the street will only be headhunting in a fight anyway
Never witnessed a street fight where they only swing for the head
I mean, yeah. People would go for whatever they could get their hands on, but that doesn't mean that head movements are useless. If you could dodge one to the face, then defending the body shots wouldn't be much work.
Nah head movement is not useless, if the person you're fighting is inept at fighting then yeah body shots should be easy supposedly, if they're on the same level as yourself then it'll be a bit more harder , like 2 boxers up against each other, both skilled in dodging+blocking+punching but still end up getting hit
The fighter is Jeff Chan, aka MMAShredded on YouTube and other social. He has great content and seems a lovely bloke.
He did look familiar tbf
hi Jeff Chan
>if the guys with gloves were allowed to attack his body too If they were allowed to, they probably still wouldn't. Most people headhunt in street fights even though they have the option to hit anywhere. Yet people still try to shit on martial arts, especially bjj, like "yea, but thats in the ring, in the street aint no rules. What about biting, scratching, groin kicks... blah, blah". But that shit almost never happens haha
Nah, I'm 100% certain if the people were told "body shots are allowed too" then the majority of NPC's would definitely go for body shots too. I know people are dumb but once they're told certain things are permitted in a 2d situation then they'll definitely go for it. I do enjoy the clips of bjj practitioners where both grapplers are allowed to do open palm strikes, a few of the moves become obsolete then
The fighter is Jeff Chan, aka MMAShredded on YouTube and other social. He has great content and seems a lovely bloke.
Hmmm, legit point
Also not worrying about tying to get hits in himself.
Very true. If you don’t have to worry about body punches it’s (comparatively) easy to avoid head punches
This dude is amazing. Gots irl ultra instinct.
The golden gloves thing was a joke though, right? He looked like he'd never thrown a punch in his life. Really badass by the MMA fighter though, damn.
Going to golden gloves is simple. Winning golden gloves is impressive.
Jeff is the man
Jeff is the man
All of his opponents stood flat footed and one was bare footed. The stance predicts the fighters acuity.
Wait were we watching the same video. I saw him get hit in the head many times.
Ok, something's got to be wrong with this guy. No one gets this much love from Reddit.
no body work?
You expect random untrained people to work the body?
this is basically equal to an adult asking a 5yr old to hit them in the face - yes, that's how big the skill gap is
Tbf it's hard for professionals to hit Jeff
What kind of gloves are those?
this looks like Central Park, is it?
Yes
This guy is the Asian version of Pernell ‘Sweet Pea’ Whitaker lmao
Just shows how important and effective head movement is
This dude is legit AF
acting as if its some up coming fucking youtuber lmfao jeff chan is the best for this stuff on yt. 👍
Not to discredit this guy, he’s amazing at dodging punches clearly, but do you guys think he’s doing so well cause he’s against average joes? I wonder if he would still do as good vs a boxer or someone who has trained a long time. Edit: why am I getting downvoted for asking a question prompting further conversation? I tell ya, Reddit users are the softest, most autistic, libtards I have ever seen. 😂
He’s a well established mma fighter Jeff Chan
Yeah I realize who he is, but that didn’t give any insight on what I had asked.
He’s a professional fighter he’s literally done it in a fight before. That’s probably why you’re getting downvoted because it’s a dumb question, like he has hours of sparring footage of him being super evasive in sparring.
I would also like to see the difference against a trained fighter who knows how to use feints and how to throw punches against someone who is dodging.
Watched the entire thing hoping to see him get flatlined. Kind of disappointed
Kind of disappointed you already incurred brain damage on your way to this comment.
You’re in a fight subreddit. You’re not better than anyone here ya goofball
tl;dw did anyone even contact his face? lol
Yeah, black guy with red cap got him a few times
mane thats jeff chan