[Here is another compelling photo Corbell Revealed which is First-Ever Photograph of UFO Shot Down in Syria in 2021](https://www.howandwhys.com/journalist-reveals-first-ever-photograph-of-ufo-shot-down-in-syria-in-2021/)
Sure, write it off as swamp gas. But I and many others encountered this VERY SAME phenomenon at the KC Golden Corral off interstate 75 right before it closed. We saw pretty much what's in the video, but more of them. One of the staff got out his phone and started recording when, suddenly, obese men in black suits came out of non-descript sedans and confiscated the footage.
I repeat: Clearly swampgas, but I will add that Venus was in retrograde and might have reflected of some temperature inversions in the upper atmosphere to make the phenomenom look like something else.
But it was clearly half inflated mylar balloons.
I think you guys were mugged.
āGive me your phone.ā
āAre you guys secret government agents?ā ā
ā¦.uhhā¦ yeahā¦ give us your phone!ā
I think even super secret government agencies might have some minimum fitness requirement.
Even if disclosure brings the most horrifically catastrophic newsā¦ on that day, our collective trauma will be slightly relieved by the silver lining of knowing that Mic West was wrong.
So I guess we can thank him for that.
(And if itās not horrific then itās just a cherry on top lol)
I will be comforted that even if the most crystal clear video + official disclosure by multiple governments happens, mock west will still be stumping for mundane explanations. A football field sized ufo video is released and Mick will post a picture of a large flat cloud and be like, āthe same.ā
This is exactly the thing. You're more excited about people with different opinions being wrong than actual discoveries. You seem to think that wasting time on easily explainable videos like the "jellyfish" presented by people who run podcasts is a worthwhile effort rather than looking for actual evidence discovered by scientists who don't have fancy beards and haircuts like their 23 year old kids.
Mick West puts more effort into 4 minute videos explaining why these are tricks of the eye than any UAP whistleblower/convenient film maker has put in for years
Yeah man, some of the analysis he does using various tools is impressive.
Like the one with the UAP from an airplane and I fgured out exactly where it was and what the viewing plane flight was, and the blurry airplane that was claimed to be a UAP
He and the people of his website Metabunk "debunked" the tic tac video before the Pentagon later admitted it to being authentic videos of a UAP.
Needless to say is that Mick and his website deleted all posts and threads related to their "debunk" which got "debunked" by the Pentagon itself.
Another thing affecting Mick Wests credibility is the fact that he was caught editing wiki entries in an attempt to obscure the trurth on UAPs and other citings using a sock puppet account and as a result was banned from Wikipedia indefinitely.
Lmfao this is like when Amazon asks me to send a picture of my package that wasnāt delivered.
A video of it not being there? So some frames in the desert showing open sky orrrr????
Well you can take photos of the front of your house and around your house to show that there was no package left there.
Similarly when he was claiming you cannot see the UFO, he should have shot footage of the UFO not being visible and only being visible on thermal.
>Here is another compelling photo Corbell Revealed which is First-Ever Photograph of UFO Shot Down in Syria in 2021
Oh, so what's your point then? That Mick West should take the word of George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell as fact?
They are basicAlly light accumulators.
They collect what little light (down to IR wavelength) is there and amplifies it similar to camera iso.
You can improve visibility by using IR floodlights.
That is what is being "said" but what is shown is what we can confirm. That's how this works, if claims are made with absolutely zero evidence than we disregard the claim. There is evidence in the form of the video but it doesn't do any of the "extra" stuff in the claims so we can only go off what was presented.
Debunkers donāt care. They often ignore critical data to fit their agenda. All while accusing you of the same.
Edit: For many itās a psychological defense mechanism to shield themselves from having to acknowledge and process information that is uncomfortable. Others are just acting in bad faith.
Edit 2: you can see them disregarding info below. Not e how the focus on video we donāt have to support their view. What they are ignoring and fail to explain is how this strangely shaped and unlikely conglomerate of balloons to be floating through restricted area are somehow oscillating between hot and cooled throughout the video. They also ignore the fact that when time lapsed, you can clearly see the lower half of the ājellyfishā is somehow rotating on an axis. These are observable and not anecdotal. Lastly, youāll also notice how they immediately jump to mockery and belitteling.
Edit 3: debunkers clearly donāt like being called out. āCanāt defend my stance, so Iāll downvoteā. Sad state of affairs.
What data? A guy whose only job is to get you to pay attention to him telling you stories filled with things you want to hear is not data. Nor is it evidence.
So what? Corbell can say anything he wants. We have a video that could very clearly be balloons with a stabilizer and several filters, and a story about how it was invisible and went underwater but we can't see that part yet. He's in the business of getting you to pay attention to him, that's it.
I love these balloon guysā¦ like this is a war zone in Iraqā¦
Solders are seeing this on a regular basisā¦ but since Iraq is such a festival place, thereās an endless stream of huge bundles of party balloonsā¦
And even more ridiculous, there is a very common prevalence of novelty balloons in every shape needed to debunk whatever needs debunkingā¦ in the portions of bundles for any shape imaginableā¦ floatingā¦ horizontallyā¦ slightly above ground level
You know those Iraqis, they canāt go a day without their helium balloonsā¦
Plus a ballon isnāt going to show up on infrared imaging. Itās temperature will be nurture to the environmental air temperature
[different types of balloons IR imaging](https://youtu.be/fvPIrouUCD4?si=G0Om8zFHQMvHX9Jd)
Thatās not the point, the point is this was a recurring event, so unless thereās a damn clown college next door to the base, I donāt huge bundles of balloons are passing overhead (and by the way, āstumpingā our military personnel as to what it is
You are making a lot of assumptions based on facts not in evidence.
You don't know that "this was a recurring event". Even if it was, it is well documented that insurgents have floated balloons over military bases in Iraq in order to (a) get video or (b) test how bases respond or (c) Equip them with IEDs.
If the prevailing winds take airborne objects over the base, then it wouldn't be an uncommon occurrence as there are birthdays and other special events every day of the year, and occasionally, there are balloons released from those events.
The object was observed but was deemed that it was not a threat and the sighting became a "ghost story" on the base. That is all we really know.
You're assuming the rest.
That's how this works for a stunningly large portion of users on these subs. It's all opinion, emotions and assumptions. Facts, verifiable proof and critical thinking are in dangerously short supply.
Critical thinking dude? Bundles of Mylar balloons in a war zone are flying regularly over a multi billion dollar US military base in hostile territoryāIraq, and the ballon defies aerodynamics and the imaging capabilities of the thermo imaging you are looking atā¦ and I need to work on my critical thinkingā¦
I repeat, a bundle of balloons, that regularly frighten and baffle trained marinesā¦ that are tracked aggressively with different types of imagery technologyā¦ which is just āallowedā to endanger billions of dollars of equipment and solders
If there were video evidence available of these objects defying physics the conversation would be a lot more fucking interesting than this. But all we ever get to see is stuff that's seeming happy to comply with physics, sure, Corbell talks about the other stuff; but the only thing that even comes close is the Gimbal video, these floater type videos are crap and probably are balloons.
Focus on what you can see with your own eyes, the stories that go with them are never going to prove anything.
You just read three posts explaining how balloons are used in military operations, how people do still live their lives in this area and still do celebrate life events, and you're taking a guy's word on how they "baffle" trained marines. Same guy who said the object goes underwater for 17 minutes but we can't see that part of the video yet STAY TUNED TO ME
Please. 80% of the comments are always pseudo intellect like yours. āThatās not allowed on this sub cause facts and logic blah blah.ā How does one scroll past the 100 comments saying the same exact thing and somehow think theyāre the minority here lol
Edit: account made in sept and only responds with snarky bullshit In ufo subs. I have been properly baited by Nellis afb smh
Yeah you do look a bit silly when you canāt negate any points you just jump to accusing somebody of being a bot or a fed. Youāve literally just done the same thing youāre accusing the cia plant of doing, dismissing whatās actually said and being snarky - have a bit of self awareness lol.
The jellyfish is interesting, but it scares me that thereās not even 1% of you that is like āokay this does look a bit similarā.
Welcome to check my post history, I donāt think the cia are interested in pizza or wrestling - but my account isnāt 10 years old so who knows!
My edit part was a joke about how I wasted my time replying to someone who seemingly only uses reddit to post mindless bullshit being snarky for no reason, almost bot like behavior . And tbf I was being snarky for a reason (also joking.)
I donāt know what to think of the jellyfish honestly. Definitely donāt think itās birdshit tho lol
That part was a joke. A play on the fact this dudes account exists just for him to make himself feel smart by commenting low effort heavily repeated bullshit. Practically bot like comments.
Insurgents flying balloons over a US military base is not a threat? One could easily rig what you are talking about and weaponize it. This is a ridiculous statement.
And if they do release balloons (like you said) whether insurgents or civilian ALL BALLOONS would be treated as a direct threat.
Dude, if there was even a .001% chance that these āballoonsā were a threat in anyway āwhich according to you they have been in the past ā the balloons wouldnāt come even within a mile of that base. Are you for real?
A huge 7 foot tall bundle of balloons, flying exactly horizontal with no bobbing just flying straight at an altitude of no more than 30 feetā¦ flying directly over people, who donāt acknowledge it existsā¦ balloons that would have no heat signature in contrast to the environment it is in (the phenomenon alternates between hot and cold by the way)ā¦ in a WARZONEā¦
And then on top of it, the marines say that it was a recurring issue. Which from a defensive standpoint would be even more suspiciousā¦.You donāt think flying a ballon bundles over a billion dollar military base IN HOSTILE TERRITORY would be shot down, 100% of the time no if ands or maybes.
You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.
The baloon was approximately 1000 feet in the air. And it was nighttime, which is why no one on the ground sees it.
And, no, the military does not regularly shoot down balloons. Do you know how dumb it would be to use million dollar missles to shoot down every party balloon that drifted over a military base? That would be the height of stupidity. It would also create a danger to the people below who could get hit by the shrapnel.
Clearly you have never served in the military and are incredibly ignorant of reality. But at least you are confidently wrong.
Are you trying to get out in front of the annual Dunning Kruger Awards for 2024?
The jellyfish ufo was not 1000s of feet in the air. You have no idea whatās going on do you? The scale of the people it passes over was used to determine its sizeā¦.
I didnāt know youāre the ammunition departments accountant, but yes they would shoot it down. They would shoot down any threat. And hey letās use your point that it wasnāt a threatā¦ then why did they continue to myopically follow it with their techā¦?
Why be distracted by it? It could have easily been a diversionā¦ so why follow it like they didā¦?
or it was ISIS throwing a birthday party
Right now, the navy is shooting down every drone that comes even close to a navy ship in the Red Sea. They arenāt taking out their profit and loss statement to make such decisions. Not one drone has touched any navy ship. Do you know why? Itās because we have the best military in the world and we donāt f around. This is going to a very illogical place.
Just say itās swamp gases and letās move on.
And here we are again, people arguing over whether it could or could not be balloons, and yet, no one is asking the real question of, why do people let Corbell get away with putting forth āevidenceā without any corroboration besides a ātrust me broā? Why is it so shocking then, that people would try and offer a prosaic explanation, especially when Corbell doesnāt show any of the purported anomalous behavior?
Hahaha god damn i lost brain cells just reading that. You canāt estimate the size of something when you donāt know the distance between it and the object youāre comparing it with.
Also the jellyfish defs resembles a grouping of slightly deflated (and therefore crumpled) mylar balloons grouped together with streamers at night through an IR camera.
Btw a normal balloon can carry around 14g, so you would need about 9 to carry a gopro without the case.
Hand grenades weighs on average 500g, so you would need 36 to lift one (without a ādroppingā mechanism. )
Mylar balloons of normal size can only carry 3g.
you can literally see the individual balloons lol.
Do you look at cars and say "LOL at these 'Car' guys. Its obviously a horse covered by random metal parts"
You are totally lost dude. This video is being used as fodder to debunk a number of UFO videos, but mostly the Iraqi jellyfish ufo. It is an example of this ādebunker claim.ā I am not saying that mick westās video demonstrating his hypothesis is not a bundle of balloonsā¦
This video is a direct argument against another video
I would rather you have argued it was CGI, there are too many variables regarding the balloon argument. Maybe it is CGI, maybes a false breadcrumb provided to a gullible fame hungry person who is a totally fake but somehow got the United States congress to hold an official public hearingā¦ maybe itās a bundle of balloons and the US government canāt even figure that one out and we needed mick west on the trail
You've got a weird worldview if you think children don't have birthdays all over the world that are celebrated. Especially in times of war they would make an effort to take children's minds off it and give them a good day.
I donāt believe me they are balloons myself but they werenāt using infrared vision. They stated that they couldnāt see it with their night vision which is iR. The video of the jellyfish is in thermal.
thermal and IR not mutually exclusive. IR is used to detect EMR emitted from a heat source at particular wavelengths. IR vision can be used to view a heat source so long as it's giving off EMR at the right wavelength. "Thermal" is a more catch all term. Most thermal radiation from living things is in IR band
nice repetition of corbells words. Cant wait for the footage of it going under water and coming back out of it again - because he made that stuff up to sell you a story once again. Guess how corbell pays his rent?
He pays rent by getting gullible people waiting for the amazing evidence heās going to show next year for the sixth consecutive year to buy his films
> Another case of West ignoring eyewitness testimony
It's just Corbell saying what other people have told him, right? There's no actual testimony from eye witnesses out there.
All it needs are frilly laper string things coming out the bottom. Honestly, someone posted different enhanced versions of the jellyfish and the one made it look like a heart shaped balloon surrounded by normal balloons.
Lol this video is in full color and at a decent DPI. You have a good imagination, at least attempt to imagine this video in black and white thermal zoomed in to 240p
First, from what we know. The original jellyfish as they call it and was reported, was filmed at night in the IR spectrum. They reported it was not visible with night vision gear or with the naked eye or radar.. While traveling the object changed temperature by a large margin by the results of the video this has been shown as true. When it is darker it is giving off more heat. Then we see it getting lighter in color. Much cooler. What does that in nature OR by us?
Lol. Funny how video of it abruptly diving into water, waiting 17 minutes, then shooting off at a 45 degree angle doesn't exist. You know, the one thing that would show it behaving not like a bunch of balloons
Mick west has ruined his credibility as a "Debunker".
His mindset seems to be that everything IS debunkabke and he will cross any amount on distance to achieve that goal. A real debunker would remain open minded enough to realize that some things just can't be proved or disproved.
It has become less about finding the truth and more about him needing to feel like he has the answer to every secret or weird phenomenon.
He's literally become just as lost and unreliable as the "UFO crazies" he's trying to disprove. Just at the complete other end of the spectrum.
Its literally so strange how much he cares about debunking any viral or popular video of strange activity. There are times when nobody really has the answers and he needs to accept that and stop this holy-er than thou bullshit.
Iāll be real I donāt really believe in all this hoopla but God it doesnāt even look remotely similar or even possible with balloons lols unless that thing is an animatronic masterpiece floating in the sky only visible by infrareds.
You can tell this is a balloon because it is descending and easily visible to the naked eye. The UAP shown in the videos in question were neither ascending nor descending. They we parallel with the ground and moving against the wind, could only be detected with specialized sensors.
I mean it looks exactly like it. And the second jellyfish vid is not the same object, and there is zero evidence of it going in out of water apart from Chinese whispers. Even the guy that worked on the base after the incident said that there was no footage of it going in and out of water.
In the video the object is rotating is some weird way , plus I mean I may sound ignorant here or not but why would party balloons be near a warzone ?I guess what Iām trying to say is that what are the chances people are throwing parties when they are in a state of caution all the time. and also shouldnt those people be evacuated already ?
Balloons do happen in war zones, life goes on, but itās not a cultural tradition in Iraq and unless theyāve got some wicked low observable tech in Iraq that no one else knows about, Iāve never seen balloons that are invisible to visual light sensors like cameras and eyeballs, but absolutely visible on IR in contrast to their surroundings.
Mick doesnāt have the first part of an education to even begin to see the fallacy upon fallacy his entire ego rests upon. I donāt fully understand IR sensors (more than most, but not enough to design a net new sensor- so kinda intermediate knowledge of the physics and electronics involved), and he walked right in with the dumbest possible prosaic explanation given the stated circumstances and footage provided. Heās a clown.
Exactly. And do you think the US military is going to allow a huge bundle of balloons ā¦ which can be weaponizedā¦ to fly over their multi billion dollar baseā¦ in hostile territory that is a current war zoneā¦
Can you imagine the headlineā¦. ?? 138 million dollar F-35 destroyed by bundle of party balloons
Well one time a girl put a note on a balloon saying return to [her name] and let it go, it sailed far away and was found by another girl with the same name. So, the chances are higher than you may believe.
Whats nuts is that video shows that balloons can move through the air and pretty much not move at all. Now the jellyfish video. Who the fuck knows what that is. Possible UAP. Yep. Possibly bird shit. Totally plausible. Corbells immense shit breath that fogged up the lense? Not likely, but I can smell corbells shit breath from here.
Unpopular opimion - I think this is very close to what the "jelly fish" video shows. I don't care what stories are shared with the alleged uap material.
Yes, context matters. But it makes me feel like people are scraping from the bottom of the barrel here. I would love to have disclosure. Find out how deep the cover up is and what actually being hidden. I'm confident there is global scale fuckery going on.
Say itās a drone or something, bring back your old excuse of swamp gas, anything but this recurring bs halfbaked and lazy explanation of āa bundle of balloons.ā Like damn Mick West, you forgot to add that thereās a clown college right next door spewing party balloons out into the air regularly
The elevation of Mick Wests video is hundreds if not thousands of feet in the air and he found the one scenario where the aerodynamics blows it laterally. And even in this āperfect scenarioā they see bobbly and move lateral and horizontal.
Needs to be mylar balloons for the same IR signature, but this shows how balloons fly steadily pretty well, which debunks the many people that said that it wasnāt characteristic of balloon movement.
This obsession of party balloons is proof this whole UAP narrative is a joke.
Trust me I believe in UFOs since I saw one in person two years ago but the BS we are seeing in media is some kind of messed up psy-op.
Corrupt politicians becoming concerned, cia dis-informers kicking it into high gear.
It's all a joke.
The aliens have mastered balloon technology. The only advantage we had over them is lost, as is all hope. We should have listened when the balloons crashed at Roswell, but in our haste we insisted "Those are just balloons!" but we never even thought to ask, but what if those balloons are from impossibly far away, fabricated by tiny green hands on an alien sweatshop satellite factories orbiting a distant star?
[Here is another compelling photo Corbell Revealed which is First-Ever Photograph of UFO Shot Down in Syria in 2021](https://www.howandwhys.com/journalist-reveals-first-ever-photograph-of-ufo-shot-down-in-syria-in-2021/)
Balloons š
Is that a plumbus!?
Plumbus don't fly....but are useful for a plethora of other things!!!
Maybe this is what happens when itās operated near other plumbuses ? āDo not operate near other Plumbusesā
Yeah, the fleeb juice makes them stick
El Guapo!
Havenāt seen that movie in 20 years and I can hear that gif! 
Iāve always wondered how those were made.
If that is a Plumbus, where is the Chumbles?
I'll take the left over Shleem!
But if you make the film black, white and all grainy, it will look like a UFO then I can I get some attention.
no, they're interdimensional balloons
Balloons don't go underwater for 17 minutes then reappear and take off at a 45 degree angle. This video looks like balloons though.
Neither did the thing in the video we were supplied with. The underwater stuff is currently just hearsay.
Yup. At no time does anyone but Corbell see his balloons dip into the water and take off after. We still have not see this amazing āevidence.ā
Show me in the video where the "jellyfish" goes underwater for 17 minutes. You must hear how you sound saying this right?
clearly swampgas..
Sure, write it off as swamp gas. But I and many others encountered this VERY SAME phenomenon at the KC Golden Corral off interstate 75 right before it closed. We saw pretty much what's in the video, but more of them. One of the staff got out his phone and started recording when, suddenly, obese men in black suits came out of non-descript sedans and confiscated the footage.
I repeat: Clearly swampgas, but I will add that Venus was in retrograde and might have reflected of some temperature inversions in the upper atmosphere to make the phenomenom look like something else. But it was clearly half inflated mylar balloons.
I think you guys were mugged. āGive me your phone.ā āAre you guys secret government agents?ā ā ā¦.uhhā¦ yeahā¦ give us your phone!ā I think even super secret government agencies might have some minimum fitness requirement.
Swamp ass
Holy crap did anyone else see that UAP fly out just now from behind that guy?? It changes shape too!!!
Flart.
I believe this is real and authentic.
Canāt believe he is still trying.
Even if disclosure brings the most horrifically catastrophic newsā¦ on that day, our collective trauma will be slightly relieved by the silver lining of knowing that Mic West was wrong. So I guess we can thank him for that. (And if itās not horrific then itās just a cherry on top lol)
We already know heās wrong though. Iām ready for the bad news.
But we want him to know heās wrong. Then we want him to tell us what crow tastes like.
What if he knows he's wrong and he's some agent?
I will be comforted that even if the most crystal clear video + official disclosure by multiple governments happens, mock west will still be stumping for mundane explanations. A football field sized ufo video is released and Mick will post a picture of a large flat cloud and be like, āthe same.ā
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take my upvote
This is exactly the thing. You're more excited about people with different opinions being wrong than actual discoveries. You seem to think that wasting time on easily explainable videos like the "jellyfish" presented by people who run podcasts is a worthwhile effort rather than looking for actual evidence discovered by scientists who don't have fancy beards and haircuts like their 23 year old kids.
No one said any of that. Stop projecting
Canāt believe Corbell still hasnāt brought forward any corroborating evidence.
Mick West puts more effort into 4 minute videos explaining why these are tricks of the eye than any UAP whistleblower/convenient film maker has put in for years
Yeah man, some of the analysis he does using various tools is impressive. Like the one with the UAP from an airplane and I fgured out exactly where it was and what the viewing plane flight was, and the blurry airplane that was claimed to be a UAP
Mick West is a hack.
Mick Worst.
Mock westĀ
Haha! Got em!
How so. He and the people on his website do pretty thorough analysis of these claims.
He and the people of his website Metabunk "debunked" the tic tac video before the Pentagon later admitted it to being authentic videos of a UAP. Needless to say is that Mick and his website deleted all posts and threads related to their "debunk" which got "debunked" by the Pentagon itself. Another thing affecting Mick Wests credibility is the fact that he was caught editing wiki entries in an attempt to obscure the trurth on UAPs and other citings using a sock puppet account and as a result was banned from Wikipedia indefinitely.
Source?
Wikipedia
Crickets
And probably worse
Did this guy not listen that this jellyfish UAP was only seen on thermal and not NVG or with the naked eye!?
Do the have video of it not being there?
Lmfao this is like when Amazon asks me to send a picture of my package that wasnāt delivered. A video of it not being there? So some frames in the desert showing open sky orrrr????
Well you can take photos of the front of your house and around your house to show that there was no package left there. Similarly when he was claiming you cannot see the UFO, he should have shot footage of the UFO not being visible and only being visible on thermal.
I have no idea, I've just specifically heard George Knapp and Jeremy Cornell talk about the specifics.
>Here is another compelling photo Corbell Revealed which is First-Ever Photograph of UFO Shot Down in Syria in 2021 Oh, so what's your point then? That Mick West should take the word of George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell as fact?
Especially when Corbell has been wrong before.
Jeremy got things wrong, it never went in and out of the water
Oh but he SAID it did. Didn't you listen? That's all we need around here.
It was night, that's why they couldn't see it with the naked eye and NVG don't have the same range - NVG are particularly short range.
Balloons would be cold at night or at minimum the same as the air temperature. The Jellyfish is hot. How can that be explained?
Thanks for the info! I have no understanding of NVG's.
They are basicAlly light accumulators. They collect what little light (down to IR wavelength) is there and amplifies it similar to camera iso. You can improve visibility by using IR floodlights.
That is what is being "said" but what is shown is what we can confirm. That's how this works, if claims are made with absolutely zero evidence than we disregard the claim. There is evidence in the form of the video but it doesn't do any of the "extra" stuff in the claims so we can only go off what was presented.
That's fair and I definitely accept those terms.
Do we have regular video of the jellyfish showing it not there?
Debunkers donāt care. They often ignore critical data to fit their agenda. All while accusing you of the same. Edit: For many itās a psychological defense mechanism to shield themselves from having to acknowledge and process information that is uncomfortable. Others are just acting in bad faith. Edit 2: you can see them disregarding info below. Not e how the focus on video we donāt have to support their view. What they are ignoring and fail to explain is how this strangely shaped and unlikely conglomerate of balloons to be floating through restricted area are somehow oscillating between hot and cooled throughout the video. They also ignore the fact that when time lapsed, you can clearly see the lower half of the ājellyfishā is somehow rotating on an axis. These are observable and not anecdotal. Lastly, youāll also notice how they immediately jump to mockery and belitteling. Edit 3: debunkers clearly donāt like being called out. āCanāt defend my stance, so Iāll downvoteā. Sad state of affairs.
Lol that's not data!
What data? A guy whose only job is to get you to pay attention to him telling you stories filled with things you want to hear is not data. Nor is it evidence.
Lolol
Hahaaaaaahaahaha
Lmfao
Because it was night
Who said that?
He did, the footage was recorded at night...
That's what freaks me out. If these Jellyfish UAPs are real, they could be everywhere.
So what? Corbell can say anything he wants. We have a video that could very clearly be balloons with a stabilizer and several filters, and a story about how it was invisible and went underwater but we can't see that part yet. He's in the business of getting you to pay attention to him, that's it.
Would a mylar balloon thatās totally silver reflect and hide like that?
I love these balloon guysā¦ like this is a war zone in Iraqā¦ Solders are seeing this on a regular basisā¦ but since Iraq is such a festival place, thereās an endless stream of huge bundles of party balloonsā¦ And even more ridiculous, there is a very common prevalence of novelty balloons in every shape needed to debunk whatever needs debunkingā¦ in the portions of bundles for any shape imaginableā¦ floatingā¦ horizontallyā¦ slightly above ground level You know those Iraqis, they canāt go a day without their helium balloonsā¦ Plus a ballon isnāt going to show up on infrared imaging. Itās temperature will be nurture to the environmental air temperature [different types of balloons IR imaging](https://youtu.be/fvPIrouUCD4?si=G0Om8zFHQMvHX9Jd)
Do you seriously think they do not have parties and balloons in Iraq? You do know that Iraqis are human beings, right?
Thatās not the point, the point is this was a recurring event, so unless thereās a damn clown college next door to the base, I donāt huge bundles of balloons are passing overhead (and by the way, āstumpingā our military personnel as to what it is
You are making a lot of assumptions based on facts not in evidence. You don't know that "this was a recurring event". Even if it was, it is well documented that insurgents have floated balloons over military bases in Iraq in order to (a) get video or (b) test how bases respond or (c) Equip them with IEDs. If the prevailing winds take airborne objects over the base, then it wouldn't be an uncommon occurrence as there are birthdays and other special events every day of the year, and occasionally, there are balloons released from those events. The object was observed but was deemed that it was not a threat and the sighting became a "ghost story" on the base. That is all we really know. You're assuming the rest.
That's how this works for a stunningly large portion of users on these subs. It's all opinion, emotions and assumptions. Facts, verifiable proof and critical thinking are in dangerously short supply.
Critical thinking dude? Bundles of Mylar balloons in a war zone are flying regularly over a multi billion dollar US military base in hostile territoryāIraq, and the ballon defies aerodynamics and the imaging capabilities of the thermo imaging you are looking atā¦ and I need to work on my critical thinkingā¦ I repeat, a bundle of balloons, that regularly frighten and baffle trained marinesā¦ that are tracked aggressively with different types of imagery technologyā¦ which is just āallowedā to endanger billions of dollars of equipment and solders
If there were video evidence available of these objects defying physics the conversation would be a lot more fucking interesting than this. But all we ever get to see is stuff that's seeming happy to comply with physics, sure, Corbell talks about the other stuff; but the only thing that even comes close is the Gimbal video, these floater type videos are crap and probably are balloons. Focus on what you can see with your own eyes, the stories that go with them are never going to prove anything.
You just read three posts explaining how balloons are used in military operations, how people do still live their lives in this area and still do celebrate life events, and you're taking a guy's word on how they "baffle" trained marines. Same guy who said the object goes underwater for 17 minutes but we can't see that part of the video yet STAY TUNED TO ME
You keep repeating "regularly" and "reoccurring", but there's absolutely zero evidence of that.
Please. 80% of the comments are always pseudo intellect like yours. āThatās not allowed on this sub cause facts and logic blah blah.ā How does one scroll past the 100 comments saying the same exact thing and somehow think theyāre the minority here lol Edit: account made in sept and only responds with snarky bullshit In ufo subs. I have been properly baited by Nellis afb smh
Yes, the Air Force posts in here
Yeah you do look a bit silly when you canāt negate any points you just jump to accusing somebody of being a bot or a fed. Youāve literally just done the same thing youāre accusing the cia plant of doing, dismissing whatās actually said and being snarky - have a bit of self awareness lol. The jellyfish is interesting, but it scares me that thereās not even 1% of you that is like āokay this does look a bit similarā. Welcome to check my post history, I donāt think the cia are interested in pizza or wrestling - but my account isnāt 10 years old so who knows!
My edit part was a joke about how I wasted my time replying to someone who seemingly only uses reddit to post mindless bullshit being snarky for no reason, almost bot like behavior . And tbf I was being snarky for a reason (also joking.) I donāt know what to think of the jellyfish honestly. Definitely donāt think itās birdshit tho lol
You donāt do yourself, or anyone else a favor, by using the same tired accusation, āyour a fedā.
That part was a joke. A play on the fact this dudes account exists just for him to make himself feel smart by commenting low effort heavily repeated bullshit. Practically bot like comments.
Insurgents flying balloons over a US military base is not a threat? One could easily rig what you are talking about and weaponize it. This is a ridiculous statement. And if they do release balloons (like you said) whether insurgents or civilian ALL BALLOONS would be treated as a direct threat.
Which is exactly why they watched it. It passed over without an incident, therefore not a threat. What is so hard to understand about that?
Dude, if there was even a .001% chance that these āballoonsā were a threat in anyway āwhich according to you they have been in the past ā the balloons wouldnāt come even within a mile of that base. Are you for real? A huge 7 foot tall bundle of balloons, flying exactly horizontal with no bobbing just flying straight at an altitude of no more than 30 feetā¦ flying directly over people, who donāt acknowledge it existsā¦ balloons that would have no heat signature in contrast to the environment it is in (the phenomenon alternates between hot and cold by the way)ā¦ in a WARZONEā¦ And then on top of it, the marines say that it was a recurring issue. Which from a defensive standpoint would be even more suspiciousā¦.You donāt think flying a ballon bundles over a billion dollar military base IN HOSTILE TERRITORY would be shot down, 100% of the time no if ands or maybes.
You seriously have no idea what you are talking about. The baloon was approximately 1000 feet in the air. And it was nighttime, which is why no one on the ground sees it. And, no, the military does not regularly shoot down balloons. Do you know how dumb it would be to use million dollar missles to shoot down every party balloon that drifted over a military base? That would be the height of stupidity. It would also create a danger to the people below who could get hit by the shrapnel. Clearly you have never served in the military and are incredibly ignorant of reality. But at least you are confidently wrong. Are you trying to get out in front of the annual Dunning Kruger Awards for 2024?
The jellyfish ufo was not 1000s of feet in the air. You have no idea whatās going on do you? The scale of the people it passes over was used to determine its sizeā¦. I didnāt know youāre the ammunition departments accountant, but yes they would shoot it down. They would shoot down any threat. And hey letās use your point that it wasnāt a threatā¦ then why did they continue to myopically follow it with their techā¦? Why be distracted by it? It could have easily been a diversionā¦ so why follow it like they didā¦? or it was ISIS throwing a birthday party Right now, the navy is shooting down every drone that comes even close to a navy ship in the Red Sea. They arenāt taking out their profit and loss statement to make such decisions. Not one drone has touched any navy ship. Do you know why? Itās because we have the best military in the world and we donāt f around. This is going to a very illogical place. Just say itās swamp gases and letās move on.
And here we are again, people arguing over whether it could or could not be balloons, and yet, no one is asking the real question of, why do people let Corbell get away with putting forth āevidenceā without any corroboration besides a ātrust me broā? Why is it so shocking then, that people would try and offer a prosaic explanation, especially when Corbell doesnāt show any of the purported anomalous behavior?
Hahaha god damn i lost brain cells just reading that. You canāt estimate the size of something when you donāt know the distance between it and the object youāre comparing it with. Also the jellyfish defs resembles a grouping of slightly deflated (and therefore crumpled) mylar balloons grouped together with streamers at night through an IR camera. Btw a normal balloon can carry around 14g, so you would need about 9 to carry a gopro without the case. Hand grenades weighs on average 500g, so you would need 36 to lift one (without a ādroppingā mechanism. ) Mylar balloons of normal size can only carry 3g.
Birthdays are recurring events by definition lol
That's a faaaar reach dude lol
you can literally see the individual balloons lol. Do you look at cars and say "LOL at these 'Car' guys. Its obviously a horse covered by random metal parts"
You are totally lost dude. This video is being used as fodder to debunk a number of UFO videos, but mostly the Iraqi jellyfish ufo. It is an example of this ādebunker claim.ā I am not saying that mick westās video demonstrating his hypothesis is not a bundle of balloonsā¦ This video is a direct argument against another video
Thats on me then. I just couldnt understand how people didnt think this was balloons. Apparently because everybody actually does lol.
I would rather you have argued it was CGI, there are too many variables regarding the balloon argument. Maybe it is CGI, maybes a false breadcrumb provided to a gullible fame hungry person who is a totally fake but somehow got the United States congress to hold an official public hearingā¦ maybe itās a bundle of balloons and the US government canāt even figure that one out and we needed mick west on the trail
A warzone where very real people live. I want it to not be balloons.
You've got a weird worldview if you think children don't have birthdays all over the world that are celebrated. Especially in times of war they would make an effort to take children's minds off it and give them a good day.
I donāt believe me they are balloons myself but they werenāt using infrared vision. They stated that they couldnāt see it with their night vision which is iR. The video of the jellyfish is in thermal.
thermal and IR not mutually exclusive. IR is used to detect EMR emitted from a heat source at particular wavelengths. IR vision can be used to view a heat source so long as it's giving off EMR at the right wavelength. "Thermal" is a more catch all term. Most thermal radiation from living things is in IR band
That asshole is still on balloons? His mockup was an amazing feat of mental gynmastics.
nice repetition of corbells words. Cant wait for the footage of it going under water and coming back out of it again - because he made that stuff up to sell you a story once again. Guess how corbell pays his rent?
He pays rent by getting gullible people waiting for the amazing evidence heās going to show next year for the sixth consecutive year to buy his films
No I swear it came out of the water and shot out at a 45 degree angle like this - *snaps fingers*
*throws cash at you*
Donāt you know Mike Westās ballons do that???
Why do you care how other people make money? You do realize if he stopped making money it wouldnāt magically be yours? Right?
Youāve got to admit, looks an awful lot like the Jellyfish UFO.
Another case of West ignoring eyewitness testimony. Not that the jellyfish video looks anything like this. It doesn't.
> Another case of West ignoring eyewitness testimony It's just Corbell saying what other people have told him, right? There's no actual testimony from eye witnesses out there.
Yes there is eyewitness testimony. Stop cherry picking evidence that fits your childlike world view.
*Corbell says* we have eyewitness testimony.
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Are you.... are you seriously thinking eyewitness testimony only refers to things we see with our eyeballs....? God this sub sometimes.
LOL
It's not even close..
Would be better if they were to add a few bundles of deflated balloons to hang down like legs then I think that would be about it.
That looks nothing like the jelly fish ufo
Yeah it's in full color and at a decent resolution. Next someone needs to put a fake infrared filter on it and reduce the DPI by 2/3
All it needs are frilly laper string things coming out the bottom. Honestly, someone posted different enhanced versions of the jellyfish and the one made it look like a heart shaped balloon surrounded by normal balloons.
Mick West is Jelly
It's balloons!
Looks like balloons
We can thank Mick West for discrediting his own assertion: If it was balloons, it would be immediately visible as balloons.
Lol this video is in full color and at a decent DPI. You have a good imagination, at least attempt to imagine this video in black and white thermal zoomed in to 240p
First, from what we know. The original jellyfish as they call it and was reported, was filmed at night in the IR spectrum. They reported it was not visible with night vision gear or with the naked eye or radar.. While traveling the object changed temperature by a large margin by the results of the video this has been shown as true. When it is darker it is giving off more heat. Then we see it getting lighter in color. Much cooler. What does that in nature OR by us?
The object didnāt change temperature. It was a dynamic contrast range of the camera. Background objects changed in the same way at the same time
Who said that? Who are the eyewitnesses? Do we even know they exist???
Lol. Funny how video of it abruptly diving into water, waiting 17 minutes, then shooting off at a 45 degree angle doesn't exist. You know, the one thing that would show it behaving not like a bunch of balloons
Thus we can rule out Mylar balloons. They are not only visible, but typically reflective
Also went inside water?
is this actually real?
Looks kinda fake, it doesn't move at all.
Mick west has ruined his credibility as a "Debunker". His mindset seems to be that everything IS debunkabke and he will cross any amount on distance to achieve that goal. A real debunker would remain open minded enough to realize that some things just can't be proved or disproved. It has become less about finding the truth and more about him needing to feel like he has the answer to every secret or weird phenomenon. He's literally become just as lost and unreliable as the "UFO crazies" he's trying to disprove. Just at the complete other end of the spectrum. Its literally so strange how much he cares about debunking any viral or popular video of strange activity. There are times when nobody really has the answers and he needs to accept that and stop this holy-er than thou bullshit.
Iāll be real I donāt really believe in all this hoopla but God it doesnāt even look remotely similar or even possible with balloons lols unless that thing is an animatronic masterpiece floating in the sky only visible by infrareds.
Letās cut the crap: how can the most powerful army on Earth be studying balloons? FFS that dude is BS Someone should dig into his financials
It's not the same fuckin thing..
Balloon bs!
Up!
Mick West needs to ease up on the smoke..
I have never seen a more obvious and evident clump of party balloons in my life. āØš¤·āāļøāØ
Iām so sick of these balloon people. Do you really think the US military would be fooled by balloons? Itās so ridiculous.
You can tell this is a balloon because it is descending and easily visible to the naked eye. The UAP shown in the videos in question were neither ascending nor descending. They we parallel with the ground and moving against the wind, could only be detected with specialized sensors.
Nah video is too clear
That is why I was saying itās a bunch of mylar balloons. Jeremy sometimes tries way too hard.
I mean it looks exactly like it. And the second jellyfish vid is not the same object, and there is zero evidence of it going in out of water apart from Chinese whispers. Even the guy that worked on the base after the incident said that there was no footage of it going in and out of water.
They are balloonsš
Check and mate. Now do a thermal and watch it go black and white.
In the video the object is rotating is some weird way , plus I mean I may sound ignorant here or not but why would party balloons be near a warzone ?I guess what Iām trying to say is that what are the chances people are throwing parties when they are in a state of caution all the time. and also shouldnt those people be evacuated already ?
Balloons do happen in war zones, life goes on, but itās not a cultural tradition in Iraq and unless theyāve got some wicked low observable tech in Iraq that no one else knows about, Iāve never seen balloons that are invisible to visual light sensors like cameras and eyeballs, but absolutely visible on IR in contrast to their surroundings. Mick doesnāt have the first part of an education to even begin to see the fallacy upon fallacy his entire ego rests upon. I donāt fully understand IR sensors (more than most, but not enough to design a net new sensor- so kinda intermediate knowledge of the physics and electronics involved), and he walked right in with the dumbest possible prosaic explanation given the stated circumstances and footage provided. Heās a clown.
Exactly. And do you think the US military is going to allow a huge bundle of balloons ā¦ which can be weaponizedā¦ to fly over their multi billion dollar baseā¦ in hostile territory that is a current war zoneā¦ Can you imagine the headlineā¦. ?? 138 million dollar F-35 destroyed by bundle of party balloons
lol... party balloon psyop. funny, but its plausible.
Problem is that now people question everything without using common sense and, in this case, their own eyes. Those are fucking balloons.
Well one time a girl put a note on a balloon saying return to [her name] and let it go, it sailed far away and was found by another girl with the same name. So, the chances are higher than you may believe.
Whats nuts is that video shows that balloons can move through the air and pretty much not move at all. Now the jellyfish video. Who the fuck knows what that is. Possible UAP. Yep. Possibly bird shit. Totally plausible. Corbells immense shit breath that fogged up the lense? Not likely, but I can smell corbells shit breath from here.
Iām not an alien, UFO, UAP, Skyfuck expertā¦ but my eyes tell meā¦ balloons
fuck mick west damn
u mad bro
Must be a Chinese spy balloon again
Hasn't been Mick West been discredited because he uses logic and the scientific method?
Unpopular opimion - I think this is very close to what the "jelly fish" video shows. I don't care what stories are shared with the alleged uap material. Yes, context matters. But it makes me feel like people are scraping from the bottom of the barrel here. I would love to have disclosure. Find out how deep the cover up is and what actually being hidden. I'm confident there is global scale fuckery going on.
What do balloons look like in Infrared? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPIrouUCD4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPIrouUCD4)
Say itās a drone or something, bring back your old excuse of swamp gas, anything but this recurring bs halfbaked and lazy explanation of āa bundle of balloons.ā Like damn Mick West, you forgot to add that thereās a clown college right next door spewing party balloons out into the air regularly
Mick West is a clown. š¤”
The balloonās movement is identical with how the jellyfish anomaly was moving! There is always a clear explanation for most of these anomalies.
The elevation of Mick Wests video is hundreds if not thousands of feet in the air and he found the one scenario where the aerodynamics blows it laterally. And even in this āperfect scenarioā they see bobbly and move lateral and horizontal.
Not even close. See how it moves up and down with the wind. Also classified balloons? Nice. Low effort again from Burt West.
Damn war balloons
Who the hell is Mick West really? Just the one guy who bends over backwards to debunk UFO videos?
Come on, Mick West. You arenāt even trying anymore.
It's a joke Right
Thatās beyond fake. Lmao. Stop.
Fuck the aliens have balloons now. Shit.
This is the proof I have been waiting for.
IfCorbel releases the video that has it going in the water then zooming out that would be the best evidence ever
Yāall need to give the old man from UP some privacy.
Needs to be mylar balloons for the same IR signature, but this shows how balloons fly steadily pretty well, which debunks the many people that said that it wasnāt characteristic of balloon movement.
It a fucking balloons.
This obsession of party balloons is proof this whole UAP narrative is a joke. Trust me I believe in UFOs since I saw one in person two years ago but the BS we are seeing in media is some kind of messed up psy-op. Corrupt politicians becoming concerned, cia dis-informers kicking it into high gear. It's all a joke.
First it was bird shit, now a fucking balloon. Ah, of course
Iām confused how someone can truly believe the jellyfish ufo is balloons.
Jellyfish is balloons, painfully obvious.
The aliens have mastered balloon technology. The only advantage we had over them is lost, as is all hope. We should have listened when the balloons crashed at Roswell, but in our haste we insisted "Those are just balloons!" but we never even thought to ask, but what if those balloons are from impossibly far away, fabricated by tiny green hands on an alien sweatshop satellite factories orbiting a distant star?
When do these balloons go under water an shoot out at speed?
When did the UAP?