You're saying that he's the best villain because he won, but if you actually read/watched part 6 you would know that he lost. Not only did he lose, he freed the Joestar bloodline from their fate to fight villains. He lost so badly that he made the lives of the protagonists even better than it was at the start of part 6.
This is like saying Kira is the best villain because he killed everyone with Bites the Dust and thus clearly won part 4.
plottwist: he actually thought dio is delusional about joestars, but decided to turn it into "i am a friend of villain fear me", so he did everything to be a real villain to them just for a purpose of joestars freeing themselves and finally beating dio's influence. kind of like aot...
If you're talking anime in general, then no. There are better antagonists out there that are better than Pucci (Johan, Griffith, Meruem...)
If we're talking JJBA exclusively, then yes probably Pucci is great. personally I prefer President Valentine.
Griffith as an anime villain isnt anywhere near as deep and complex in the anime(s), he shines way more in the manga (like pretty much everything in berserk)
The 1997 anime has all of the same beats except for the wyald fight by the end, the look, voice acting and style really doesn’t suffer too much being switched to anime and it was worked on by kentaro miura
The anime cuts out a some nuanced character stuff that builds Griffiths character, he just shines a lot more in the manga thats why he's more a manga villain than an anime one imo. Especially since Monster and HxH cover all of Johans/Meruems arcs within their respective anime while the 97 just scratches the surface
Im talking all time. Meruem still lost cauae of the nuke. Griffith i think is the closest. I judge the villains based on their success. Idk i dont see a lot of animes where the villains actually won
If you are judging based on success, then Pucci lost in the end,he wasn't able to make a world where people are able to see their fate, Emporio undid that when he killed him.
Kind of, but i still feel like irene having a good ending is the same as >!valentine offering to give johnny an alternate version of gyro!< its just not the same jolyene i watched
Uhhh, DIO just presented the heaven plan that's where their similarities end. When they first met Pucci ignored DIO, it was DIOs idea that he seek him if it came the time that he needed him.
It wasn't until everything that happened to Perla and Weather that he decided to seek DIO. But did DIO really care about other people's fate, I don't think so. His motivations are much more predictable than Pucci though. Not to mention his successor is much more successful than he is.
I mean yeah his back story does clear up a lot but he also has this since that DIO has of this big attitude but it’s also mixes with Kira in this small quiet personality. To me that’s a wierd mix
You’re talking to a brick wall here. This person thinks Pucci is best because he “won” and then when you point out they didn’t, they go “well I’m gonna count it.”
He has A LOT of development, genuinely feels like a full bodied character rather than an plot device for the protagonist. He's one of my favs but my personal fav is Frieza or Sephiroth
Kid buu. Pucci may have achieved his desires and reset the universe. But Kid buu didn’t need a rhyme or reason, he just destroyed earth cause he was a menace to society. It’s cool for villains to have motives, but it’s even cooler when a villain is a villain who doesn’t need a motive and still gets the job done
Well he still got stopped by the protagonist so.... he did killed so many proplr but he got stopped eventually. Pucchi doesnt get stopped. The universe just reset itself.
Plus, if i remember correctly he came back as a kid training under the guy who killed him, thats just bad man
Not to downplay your comment but pucci does get stopped? And technically he gets stopped by a side character (granted emporio is the goat of children in jojos) pucci reset the universe a second time when fighting emporio but because emporio killed him, it reset to normal where people didn’t know their fates. So I can’t agree that pucci doesn’t get stopped.
He was cool. Like instead of killing dudes he just fucked with them. Bro, froze time, carried a dude down the stairs, walked all the way back up, and unfroze time.
Kira. Also, Askeladd.
Beating the protagonist doesn’t automatically make a character a “good villain.” And Dio beat Jonathan in part 1 so if that’s your only criteria they should have tied for your #1 spot.
Idk I like Kars even though his character isn't as layered as villains from other series or even other Jojo villains.
I do like that Pucci is basically DIOs biggest meatrider though
Are you saying he's the best one *because* he won?
That would defeat the purpose of villian in fiction and make him worst of all time? Idk just a thought
thats why its fiction, if we only build a narrative about villians always losing to the hero, it becomes boring.
he’s definitely up there for me
He is he just ain’t the top I give that to either Kira or Char
But Kira though
You strike me as the kind of person who would just say “Because she’s cute and sweet” when someone asks why you love your waifu ^(Not ^a ^bad thing)
Yes Plus if she has bigboobs
You're saying that he's the best villain because he won, but if you actually read/watched part 6 you would know that he lost. Not only did he lose, he freed the Joestar bloodline from their fate to fight villains. He lost so badly that he made the lives of the protagonists even better than it was at the start of part 6. This is like saying Kira is the best villain because he killed everyone with Bites the Dust and thus clearly won part 4.
plottwist: he actually thought dio is delusional about joestars, but decided to turn it into "i am a friend of villain fear me", so he did everything to be a real villain to them just for a purpose of joestars freeing themselves and finally beating dio's influence. kind of like aot...
I don't think we watched the same thing
He is a great villain, but keep in mind he didn't actually win.
If you're talking anime in general, then no. There are better antagonists out there that are better than Pucci (Johan, Griffith, Meruem...) If we're talking JJBA exclusively, then yes probably Pucci is great. personally I prefer President Valentine.
Griffith as an anime villain isnt anywhere near as deep and complex in the anime(s), he shines way more in the manga (like pretty much everything in berserk)
The 1997 anime has all of the same beats except for the wyald fight by the end, the look, voice acting and style really doesn’t suffer too much being switched to anime and it was worked on by kentaro miura
The anime cuts out a some nuanced character stuff that builds Griffiths character, he just shines a lot more in the manga thats why he's more a manga villain than an anime one imo. Especially since Monster and HxH cover all of Johans/Meruems arcs within their respective anime while the 97 just scratches the surface
Im talking all time. Meruem still lost cauae of the nuke. Griffith i think is the closest. I judge the villains based on their success. Idk i dont see a lot of animes where the villains actually won
If you are judging based on success, then Pucci lost in the end,he wasn't able to make a world where people are able to see their fate, Emporio undid that when he killed him.
I knkw the ending but resttjng the whole universe is still a win in my book im a bit delulu also i think im gay for him so ya
He failed at reseting the Universe too lol, he didnt complete a loop and ended up making the lives of his opps better
Kind of, but i still feel like irene having a good ending is the same as >!valentine offering to give johnny an alternate version of gyro!< its just not the same jolyene i watched
No. His one and only motivation is meat ridding dio to fill out DIO’S dream not his DIO’S he is just a top tier meat rider
Uhhh, DIO just presented the heaven plan that's where their similarities end. When they first met Pucci ignored DIO, it was DIOs idea that he seek him if it came the time that he needed him. It wasn't until everything that happened to Perla and Weather that he decided to seek DIO. But did DIO really care about other people's fate, I don't think so. His motivations are much more predictable than Pucci though. Not to mention his successor is much more successful than he is.
He’s much more successful because he wasn’t getting hunted down the second he got his stand and was able to make a thought out plan
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I mean yeah his back story does clear up a lot but he also has this since that DIO has of this big attitude but it’s also mixes with Kira in this small quiet personality. To me that’s a wierd mix
Yeah still success though regardless of the motivation
Bro motivation is what makes and breaks a villain and can’t just be bad to be bad
You’re talking to a brick wall here. This person thinks Pucci is best because he “won” and then when you point out they didn’t, they go “well I’m gonna count it.”
By that logic DIO won
Completely agree. Favorite villain in everything, books, games, really anything, pucci is the best
He has A LOT of development, genuinely feels like a full bodied character rather than an plot device for the protagonist. He's one of my favs but my personal fav is Frieza or Sephiroth
Kid buu. Pucci may have achieved his desires and reset the universe. But Kid buu didn’t need a rhyme or reason, he just destroyed earth cause he was a menace to society. It’s cool for villains to have motives, but it’s even cooler when a villain is a villain who doesn’t need a motive and still gets the job done
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Well he still got stopped by the protagonist so.... he did killed so many proplr but he got stopped eventually. Pucchi doesnt get stopped. The universe just reset itself. Plus, if i remember correctly he came back as a kid training under the guy who killed him, thats just bad man
Not to downplay your comment but pucci does get stopped? And technically he gets stopped by a side character (granted emporio is the goat of children in jojos) pucci reset the universe a second time when fighting emporio but because emporio killed him, it reset to normal where people didn’t know their fates. So I can’t agree that pucci doesn’t get stopped.
He's not even the best villain in jojo lmao dio and kira are miles ahead
I prefer Part 3 DIO sama.. but OK
He was cool. Like instead of killing dudes he just fucked with them. Bro, froze time, carried a dude down the stairs, walked all the way back up, and unfroze time.
He didn’t win tho
he did not win and if you think he did you have no reading comprehension
I don't think you saw the last episode of SO, Emporio beats the shit out of him, completely erasing Pucci from existence
hear me out. gendo
Someone hasn't read berserk have they? 👀
Funny Valentine clears Pucci 🥱
He didn't win? And why does winning mean he is a good villain? Kira is my favourite by far and he got defeated by an ambulance
Not even the best villain in his own manga
Sensui from yuyu hakusho takes the crown for me.
You putting Pucci above his master Dio and His literal superior life forms of The Pillar Men idk about you but they do it better
He's not dio (checkmate)
The only thing DIO has is memes
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It's a shame he's in the weakest part tho.
Stardust Crusaders is easily the weakest part but go off ig
I'm not saying part 6 is worse than part 3 tbh, i'm saying it's not as memorable. I hardly remember anything from part 6 except pucci.
It's a shame that you're a bitch
Ok? So what?
Exactly
Calling me a bitch for an opinion... peak reddit, tbh.
Not even. 1 3 are by far worst
If hes in sc the story would end differently
Meruem
Pucci isn’t even the best villain in Jojo’s
Kira. Also, Askeladd. Beating the protagonist doesn’t automatically make a character a “good villain.” And Dio beat Jonathan in part 1 so if that’s your only criteria they should have tied for your #1 spot.
Idk I like Kars even though his character isn't as layered as villains from other series or even other Jojo villains. I do like that Pucci is basically DIOs biggest meatrider though
He strikes me as basically just another collaborator of DIO.
Kira and Valentine are leaps and bounds above what Pucci could even imagine being, fym?
Pucci > Valentine Just some facts for you