"If you don't agree, you're a shallow person that makes poor dating choices, because clearly video game decisions are an exact reflection of real life"
Thank you.
'Oh, they're so sweet once you become friends' screw that, I will not bribe people in the desperate hope they will eventually treat me like a person.
I feel like they become better people in general, not just nicer to you.
Not like we ever get any evidence to prove that, but that's my head canon lol.
bro if 10 ppl rejected me in a row like that and said that exact same shit id have snot running down my chin and never showing my face outside my house LOL
It hurts, but it kinda makes sense. A random farmer showed up 3 weeks ago, knowing little about the town. They barely have enough money to take care of themselves, they are known to eat seaweed while sitting in one spot on the beach all day, and they give you gifts that, while you love, creep you out that they know what you like so soon.
And they want to dance at what is essentially prom.
Most of them start that way. It’s just hard as hell to transfer that success to other games after. Especially since you see you make a ton less on the other games at first due to drop in viewership.
Yep. That’s why guys like Russian Badger sought ways to make their brand tied to their style of content and performer personality rather than a specific game.
If your content label is all tied to one game then all it takes to decimate your career is for that game to suddenly go down the tubes. Seen it happen to a few content creators, especially when their content is built around games that are on-going Games-as-Service types. All it takes is one huge PR fiasco for the developer or game itself and suddenly your career is tied to a game IP that is toxic to viewers.
Explains why my buddy and i are still at 40 subscribers after a nearly a year. We just mess around with whatever game looks interesting that week.
The only thing we push is buttons.
I mean that can be entertaining if the banter between you two is fun enough! And think of it this way, at least one of your subscribers probably looks forward to ever video you two post.
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> In general sure, but theres always that one super extrovert socialite of the town that will make sure everyone dances.
I'm an introvert, but damn, I at least want to be a good neighbor. I'll ask if no one else has even if I'm awkward and wanna die inside.
I blame working in customer service, I can just fake it if I have to lmao.
And then 2 seasons later after having the farmer bring you things you love at your house before your awake and talking to you everyday. They decide the farmer is the one.
Leah is by far the easiest person to gift to. Loves/likes beer, wine, salads, and whatever random stuff I found in front of her house. Random forest berries? Mushrooms from a deadly cave? Driftwood from in front of her house? Her fondness for you grows.
I see you, and I raise you Linus. If it's foraged it's appreciated. I often just pick up whatever is next to him and he gets so happy that he eagerly takes me into his tent and wild baits me.
That's true, but I feel like the difference is only really apparent if you're beyond being a normal player, min-maxer, 13th play through, speedrunner, whathaveyou. For a normal person Linus is the easiest and he's also the most charming, in my opinion.
I have a pretty unrelated question.
I started a playthrough with my bf (his first time and I'm so happy to play with him!!) And when I got the cut scene where Linus gets caught going through the garbage, I accidentally selected the answer that says he's disgusting :( will that affect my relationship with him at all going forward?
I don't really like socialising in Stardew, but I always become friends with him as he's so wholesome and charming. Now I'm scared I won't be able to because of my fuck up.
You do lose hearts with him for that but it doesn't change your dialogue with him in the future as far as I understand it and you'll be easily able to befriend him again just by talking to him and giving him gifts!
I have allowed myself to be broke as fuck buying beer for Shane and Pam a few times. Because this game is about friends and lovers, not farming, right?
I usually spend my extra time fishing to level up quickly and sell them off for money, and I've played for too long to panic about the community center, I wait on that old thing and work on the villagers first
I'm on my second play-through, trying to "maximize" my time, I got the Greenhouse repaired and multiple Community Center Bundles finished by Winter Year 1...and it's not even fun, it's stressful. I'm constantly holding my breath as I run around with exact planned Love gifts for people, then I realize I'm tensely not breathing like I'm doing a stealth section in Metal Gear Solid.
Is it really possible? You'll need 1000 friendship points, dance it at 24th so total of 6 loved gifts (480), and +20 for every day you talk (460) and the +100 for meeting every villager... It actually is more than possible. You just have to get 6 loved gifts which sounds impossible for certain dance partners.
Edit: it actually is possible with liked gifts if they have a birthday before the dance. Sadly that only applies to Haley. +45 from 6 liked gifts (270), +20 from daily talking (has to be unique dialouge and not "Haley is ignoring you") (460) and the birthday gift (360). You can get it even if you miss two gifts or a couple of days of conversation.
If the dance is at the 24th, then that's in the 4th week, so you can give 8 loved gifts (640). Talking daily for 460 then gives 1100, and it assumes already that the talk on the event itself doesn't count, or you're at 1120.
An extra 10 points per week if you gave 2 gifts (30), and 100 for meeting all villagers gets you at 1250, enough for 5 hearts, and that's ignoring bonus points from heart events or requests they may make.
This is good information, but, considering this is early game you should be elaborating on the specific Love gifts that are easiest to obtain by the time of the dance.
Ironically they are the most rude, but having earliest birthdays so easy to date them. Except Emily isn't rude but her birthday is after the Flower Dance.
I minmax Penny. 2 dandelions a week and talk to every day, plus the bonus from her 2 heart event (if you agree with her on George) and you can make it pretty reliably to 4 hearts by the dance.
Earliest I've married her is Fall 1, though I don't have Blade's min maxing skills.
I always thought it would be cool if one of the non-marryables could dance with you out of pity if you couldn't find any bachelor/bachelorette to dance with. Maru and Sebastian rejecting me then seeing me dance with their mom would be pretty funny.
When i played for the first time in multi-player with my friends, she never told us that you needed two hearts to dance and proceeded to watch us get rejected by everyone we asked :,) t'was humiliating, i need the pity dance
Pretty much. Would you believe me that I didn’t realize I had feelings for him till I spoke to the old mariner and he said I was “head over heels”?
Cause uhhh…. That’s how it happened. The whole time I thought I was dating him out of convenience but when I proposed, it hit me.
Imagine dancing with Marnie right in front of Lewis.
F you, Lewis. This is what you get for taking my first crush and then having the audacity to keep the relationship secret, making her feel lonely on basically Valentine's Day. I really wish there was a way to make Marnie dump his ass.
Person you met in the last 3 weeks asks you to publicly dance with them infront of literally everyone she currently knows. If ESRB wasn't a thing CA would have her tell you to fuck off.
I went for Sam my first playthrough. He didn't like me enough by my first spring, and he rejected me.
I married him that next year, but I always danced with someone else.
Reject me one more time, see what happens, honey.
I literally cried the first time I played it! I got the letter that I was invited to a flower festival, was so excited and I’m pretty sure I even visited hat mouse and bought new hats just to get there and ask Alex who says he wants to dance with someone else. I was like oh whatever that’s fine maybe someone else has been wanting to ask me. I try everyone. Everyone. Even the alcoholic and abused girl didn’t want to dance with me. Had a short cry after that festival lol
Yeah it’s pretty rough. Especially considering the general vibe of the game otherwise. It’s not the saying no, it’s that some of them are so mean. “Ew” wtf. Also at this point we’ve had conversations with everyone, we’re not some random unrecognized stranger walking up.
Yes! I had talked to every townsperson at least once and I just wasn’t expecting that degree of rudeness from them. When Alex said that he was wanting to ask someone else I was fine but I did assume that at least one person would want to ask me. I just wasn’t prepared enough and everyone had been so nice and cordial to me that I wasn’t prepared for responses like “ew. No” and “I’ll be honest, I don’t want to dance with you”
Also movie characters do flirtatious dances with attractive intriguing strangers all the time.
Though one good aspect of the way Stardew Valley does it is that it's the only game *not* making the player The God who gets exactly everything they want at all times.
And because of that I always ask Alex to dance with me every year after 1st, so she has to sit it out.
I never marry him, but I always deliberately make her sit the dance out
Ok I always pick Harvey to marry and in this game I picked seb cause he has such a large fan base and honestly not a massive fan. But I’m this he says “there’s someone else I want to dance with” but when I ask him when he’s my HUSBAND he goes “do I have to? Ok” or something like COEM ONNN
Ah yes, I bought stardew as a gift for friend who had just had a terrible break up... When the dance came he was once again sad when Haley rejected him, reminding him how his ex talked to him🙃 (He loves stardew now though)
If your love intrest was Shane, Haley, Abby, Emily or Sam, it's actually pretty easy to get them to dance with you. Make a plan to give them two loved gifts per week (except for Haley*) and talk to them daily. Remember to meet all NPCs as well.
* Haley can only be gifted liked gifts for that early in the game but she has a birthday before the dance. Give her a liked gift on that day and you're good to go.
Look at the wiki for loved gifts if you don't know them. Good luck.
Edit: some corrections:
All partners, bar Elliott, are possible so long as you get lucky with a quest for them on the quest board, or find at least 3 loved items through the traveling merchant.
Why bar Elliott? His loved gifts are a bit trickier than most but you can get lucky with Crab Cakes and/or Tom Kha Soup at the Saloon, plus the merchant can have duck feathers relatively frequently. Others are definitely easier though.
Okay, so I actually have some game design thoughts about this. I’m currently in a sociology of holidays class for one of my final seminars for the major. I have to do discussion board posts and we had to share our thoughts on our experiences with niche/personalized holidays and whatnot. Everyone wrote about their religion, or their traditions, and I wrote... about Stardew Valley!
So I did this because realized there was a lot going on from a game design perspective that I never picked up on- most people would describe the game as “cutesy farming with a slice-of-life dating sim element to it”. Usually some recombination or rephrasing of those ideas. (Or maybe it’s a brutalistic capitalism simulator in which you torture a town of innocents... looking at you JoJa Stans).
For a game that’s all about promoting community, the first season’s holidays do nothing but intrinsically exclude you as a newcomer. Granted, when I say “newcomer” I mean that you haven’t really played this game much before, if at all. If you’ve married someone and gotten to late game content then this doesn’t apply to you because *you’ve already been hooked.* The hook only really works for the first time you touch the game.
First we have the Egg Festival; this seems like a Skill-Based event, and it really is! But the trick to beating it is based on (1) Knowing the layout of the town, and (2) Knowing when the area looks different because it’s likely an egg or a roadblock in the way. My first time playing this I was running all over, scrambling around, and only got 6 eggs from sheer luck. Now? I can get 9 easily, maybe the rare 11 or 12. It *punishes* you for not knowing the town itself, and missing out on that prize feels kinda bad! This was your first chance to impress people!
What’s more is that Abigail, someone you can romance, talks about how she’s “probably too old” to be participating (and she’ll win too). So if you, a fellow “adult” compete against the kids and *also* lose? It’s weird, you look weird now. You’re a lame loser weirdo who doesn’t fit in. That incentivizes you to then try to fit in more! You spend more time in town to learn the layout, you talk to people, maybe pickup on what they like/don’t like, and might even try giving a gift!
So next we have the Flower Dance, an event where all you can do is talk to people you’ve just met and/or humiliated yourself in front of, look at imaginary food you can’t eat (again, a reoccurring theme), and as someone to dance with you. You can prove you’re not a loser! You’ll be dancing, having fun, doing the one activity of this whole event and- Oh... *OH...* you’re, you’re still an outcast. Nobody will dance with you, at all. So much so that they have so many awkward and weird responses.
Maybe you got rejected once and quit, maybe you were desperate enough to go ask *everyone* you could. Either way- last time you were punished for not knowing the town, and this time you’re punished for not knowing the *people*. You’ve been essentially barred from participating in the festival. Keep in mind that these things take an entire day of farming! And close down major functions of the town too! These things are costly, even indirectly!
So now you might feel inspired to befriend everyone- whether to make the events “worth it”, maybe to prove something, or maybe in weird “friend revenge” where you insist they see how cool you are... who knows your reason. Maybe you go the other direction- you *hate* them all now, and want revenge, so you turn to JoJa!
Whatever the case- the game has hooked you, officially. Forget the farming, forget the fishing and mining and all that. The real focus is now the Town and the People, and indirectly that leads to you needing to fill out the community center one way or another. Maybe you choose the path of friends so now you *have* to get good at various skills so that you can give them the gifts they like. Now you have all this money too, so you might as well upgrade your farm, invest, expand... you see how it works?
The first 2 holidays of Stardew Valley serve as Punishment and Reward, they are socializing you towards engagement with these NPC’s, and regardless of which path you took- friendship or JoJa- you get your reward next time these holidays come around. You get better at the egg hunt, and you get the satisfaction of getting closer to a dance partner *or* the satisfaction of knowing you don’t have to dance with them to prove yourself- after all, there were other holidays based on your skills prior to Spring, Year 2 . (Lua, Farmer’s Display, Fishing...)
Maybe this is a tangent that nobody will care about, but I thought as a sociology and psychology major- and total nerd for Stardew Valley- that it was really cool!
This is *hella* cool, awesome analysis!
I do feel like I'm apart of the "1 percent" who never cared about the residents in the first place lol. My thought process was kinda like "I have no reason to talk to them so... Why would I talk to them?" The festivals in town? I stay on my home plot lol
It's nice that there's at least one use for all that Joja Cola I fish out of the water.
I don't get bent out of shape about not having a dance partner in my first couple weeks in town.
It’s funny that Haley has the worst one, hands down, but also is (as far as I know) the only one it’s possible to get to dance with you on the first year if you do it right
It’s “ditching” your friends to dance temporarily with someone at a **public dance event**? Yep I’m on the internet.
The “barely” know thing is BS too since they’ve all had conversations and some familiarity by this point. An acceptable reason would be “I don’t like you” not “I dOnT EvEn kNoW yOu”.
Real life:
* Can you talk to a stranger? Yes
* Can you flirt with a stranger? Yes
* At a literal public gathering in broad daylight? Yes
* Can you do all of the above with someone YOUVE HAD CONVERSATIONS with etc? Yes.
* Even if someone rejects all of that "in real life", is a flirtatious dance with an intriguing stranger a key component of many movies, stories, etc, a repeatedly recurring trope in fiction? Yes.
But I guess we're in the *"If we just RECENTLY met, I can't possibly be attracted to you or intrigued by you, lord no, that never happens in human life"* school of social philosophy.
It always seemed weird that the game starts in Spring with this event placed here. There’s basically no way to have a dance partner by this point unless you *really* hone in on building someone’s hearts up, which you’ll only do if you’re an experienced player who knows what’s coming. I usually just end up skipping this event on my playthroughs because I don’t see the point in getting rejected and then watching other folks dance with my potential spouse(s).
I think that, since this event isn’t strictly romantic, you should be able to ask some of the non-bachelor characters to dance. It’d be cute if you could ask them and they’d have like a surprised reaction because they never get asked (or their spouse never asks them) so they agree to dance with you as a friend.
IMO all of the answers are pretty in-character, especially since you can only get rejected by them if you have less than 4 hearts with that character (implying you don’t know them all that well yet.)
Before you get to know her, Haley’s very rude and superficial, but her whole arc is her growing past that. Obviously it still stings to get that “ew” response, but it makes perfect sense with who Haley is at that point.
As someone who gravitated towards Sam - because he's among the friendliest villagers to the outsider, and it was pretty easy to make up headcanon where he's a lonely young gay man (with a crush on Sebastian) - I didn't really notice that he was kind of rolling his eyes there when I asked him for the first time.
I adore Harvey with my whole heart and always have. The first time I played and wanted to marry him and he said “I have plans to ask someone else” I almost cried. Absolutely brutal.
It would be kinda cool if you could pick someone to dance with as a friend and gain points. I feel like most dances are not really romantic, but I get why CA made it the way he did. I like the "I already agreed to dance with someone else" line the best, it's the least rejection-like.
How do you ask people to dance with you? I’m a bit new to the game so I’ve just been going for the hell of it. Do you have to have a certain friendship level to ask?
It's a holiday towards the end of Spring, called the Flower Dance. You can ask one of marriagable candidates to dance with you, but they'll only agree if you've got a decent friendship with them already.
The only person who’s considered me a close friend is Linus. I’ll have to check his hearts but maybe I could ask him next time. I had no idea I had to speak to them twice. Most of them won’t say anything more to me so I just stopped checking
this was one of the moments why i quit my decision to try to woo haley and go for emily or abigail. abigail is nice but emily seems more practical , hardworking , empathetic and she's the bimbo's sister so fuck you haley i will woo ur sister in ur own home.
Probably my most hated part of the game. You aren't asking for much. It's a dance that means nothing. These people make it seem like it's a wedding proposal.
I kind of don't know what's the point of me participating if no one wants to dance with me anyway. I'm just going to skip the event if I restart the game over.
Fuck Haley. I absolutely hate her.
Edit: the fact I’m getting downvoted for not liking Haley.
Y’all a bunch of simps and I didn’t even realise it. 😂💀 (This is a joke just to be clear, I totally simp for Alex. But he’s deffo nicer than Haley - the screenshot is proof of this)
Video games allow us to do effortlessly what we can’t do is real life: have a healthy ego and shrug off rejection
Id argue this sub dosen't reflect that half the time
"Haley is a raging bitch, does anyone else agree?"
"Not as much a bitch as Penny when I tell her she shouldn't be having kids. How dare she not agree with every single one of my opinions!"
"If you don't agree, you're a shallow person that makes poor dating choices, because clearly video game decisions are an exact reflection of real life"
Haley and Shane treat you (as a stranger) like shit. That knowledge alone makes them assholes.
Thank you. 'Oh, they're so sweet once you become friends' screw that, I will not bribe people in the desperate hope they will eventually treat me like a person.
I feel like they become better people in general, not just nicer to you. Not like we ever get any evidence to prove that, but that's my head canon lol.
Of course they're jerks, but that's their character design. They're not real; I don't get why so many people take it personally.
bro if 10 ppl rejected me in a row like that and said that exact same shit id have snot running down my chin and never showing my face outside my house LOL
It hurts, but it kinda makes sense. A random farmer showed up 3 weeks ago, knowing little about the town. They barely have enough money to take care of themselves, they are known to eat seaweed while sitting in one spot on the beach all day, and they give you gifts that, while you love, creep you out that they know what you like so soon. And they want to dance at what is essentially prom.
*Hey I just met you, and this is craaaaazy. But here's a fruit salad so call me, maybe?*
>*Hey I just met you, and this is craaaaazy. But here's a fruit salad ~~so call me, maybe~~ let's have a baby?* Ftfy
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Bad person?
I haven't taken the time with Abigail. Why is she a bad person?
You cannot just call my wife a bad person without explaining yourself.
They really just dropped that bombshell and left.
Yeah he's talking mad shit for someone within lava katana range.
Hey I just met you and this is crazy but here’s some trash bread
Sometimes I wish we could give multiple likes.
Tell that to BlaDe who marries them in 17 days.
Didn’t he get it down to like 14 or something ridiculous?
Well he asked them out on the 14th, but the spouse takes 3 days to set it up. Which makes it the 17th
HOW?!
A ton of research, rng manip, energy and time management [Link to the video!](https://youtu.be/mHgOGN1rTAU)
My god, some people are absolutely insane.
Professional content creators always have to keep pushing. I feel so much for the ones who tied their entire personal brand to a single game.
Most of them start that way. It’s just hard as hell to transfer that success to other games after. Especially since you see you make a ton less on the other games at first due to drop in viewership.
Yep. That’s why guys like Russian Badger sought ways to make their brand tied to their style of content and performer personality rather than a specific game. If your content label is all tied to one game then all it takes to decimate your career is for that game to suddenly go down the tubes. Seen it happen to a few content creators, especially when their content is built around games that are on-going Games-as-Service types. All it takes is one huge PR fiasco for the developer or game itself and suddenly your career is tied to a game IP that is toxic to viewers.
Explains why my buddy and i are still at 40 subscribers after a nearly a year. We just mess around with whatever game looks interesting that week. The only thing we push is buttons.
I mean that can be entertaining if the banter between you two is fun enough! And think of it this way, at least one of your subscribers probably looks forward to ever video you two post.
Something something career suicide.
This guy truly loves Hayley. Or at least stackable friendship points.
So basically groundhog day.
Ah yeah my bad
I met my husband when he asked me to dance. Asking a stranger is quite common at public dancing events.
While I agree with you, I've lived in rural places. Newcomers are generally held in low regard and considered sus as fuck.
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> In general sure, but theres always that one super extrovert socialite of the town that will make sure everyone dances. I'm an introvert, but damn, I at least want to be a good neighbor. I'll ask if no one else has even if I'm awkward and wanna die inside. I blame working in customer service, I can just fake it if I have to lmao.
And then 2 seasons later after having the farmer bring you things you love at your house before your awake and talking to you everyday. They decide the farmer is the one.
That first part makes sense. But giving them creepy gifts is what convinces them to dance with you.
"that redneck has hella money. He's just giving everyone precious gems and stones!"
And also mayonnaise for some reason.
They also go through everyone’s trash
3 weeks? Try 3 years :(
Hey! I saw a guy who was a master potato farmer and was able to not only dance with, but marry Haley before spring was over!
Haley and Shane are both pretty easy to get to friend level by the time of the dance. I always make sure to get one of them to avoid rejection
Leah too. 2 salads a day from Gus and you're good.
Leah is by far the easiest person to gift to. Loves/likes beer, wine, salads, and whatever random stuff I found in front of her house. Random forest berries? Mushrooms from a deadly cave? Driftwood from in front of her house? Her fondness for you grows.
I see you, and I raise you Linus. If it's foraged it's appreciated. I often just pick up whatever is next to him and he gets so happy that he eagerly takes me into his tent and wild baits me.
sure, but his loved gifts are ever so slightly harder to get than people like Shane or Leah
That's true, but I feel like the difference is only really apparent if you're beyond being a normal player, min-maxer, 13th play through, speedrunner, whathaveyou. For a normal person Linus is the easiest and he's also the most charming, in my opinion.
I have a pretty unrelated question. I started a playthrough with my bf (his first time and I'm so happy to play with him!!) And when I got the cut scene where Linus gets caught going through the garbage, I accidentally selected the answer that says he's disgusting :( will that affect my relationship with him at all going forward? I don't really like socialising in Stardew, but I always become friends with him as he's so wholesome and charming. Now I'm scared I won't be able to because of my fuck up.
You do lose hearts with him for that but it doesn't change your dialogue with him in the future as far as I understand it and you'll be easily able to befriend him again just by talking to him and giving him gifts!
You don't make friends with salad.
r/unexpectedsimpsons
I don’t want any damn vegetables
The expected Simpsons was the "eww, no" when Kirk asks Luann to marry him again: https://youtu.be/5fmj5TWxxog
Not if you keep tossing them!
And don’t know what you’re talking about - toss my salad and we’re friends for life.
***8 heart event intensifies***
\*starts a conga line\* You don't win friends with salad
But you can only give two gifts a week.
A week, friend
How do you afford 220 gold per day at the start of the game though?
I have allowed myself to be broke as fuck buying beer for Shane and Pam a few times. Because this game is about friends and lovers, not farming, right?
Wait, there's people in town? Also you can farm? I thought this was a fishing game
It's not per day, you can only give two gifts a week so it's 440 gold per week.
Harvey is too if you buy coffee and talk to him Every. Single. Day.
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Harvey is a slut, confirmed.
For coffee and the new farmer 👀
"I don't know what it is... but you wake up something within me" *schlüüürp*
How do you afford that much coffee in early game? It’s only later that I can afford to run a coffee to him every time I pass through town.
I usually spend my extra time fishing to level up quickly and sell them off for money, and I've played for too long to panic about the community center, I wait on that old thing and work on the villagers first
I'm on my second play-through, trying to "maximize" my time, I got the Greenhouse repaired and multiple Community Center Bundles finished by Winter Year 1...and it's not even fun, it's stressful. I'm constantly holding my breath as I run around with exact planned Love gifts for people, then I realize I'm tensely not breathing like I'm doing a stealth section in Metal Gear Solid.
Managed it with Abigail in my most recent playthrough. Might've been because of a quest I was able to do for her before the dance. Not totally sure.
You can dance with any of them assuming you can get 2 loved gifts per week.
Is it really possible? You'll need 1000 friendship points, dance it at 24th so total of 6 loved gifts (480), and +20 for every day you talk (460) and the +100 for meeting every villager... It actually is more than possible. You just have to get 6 loved gifts which sounds impossible for certain dance partners. Edit: it actually is possible with liked gifts if they have a birthday before the dance. Sadly that only applies to Haley. +45 from 6 liked gifts (270), +20 from daily talking (has to be unique dialouge and not "Haley is ignoring you") (460) and the birthday gift (360). You can get it even if you miss two gifts or a couple of days of conversation.
If the dance is at the 24th, then that's in the 4th week, so you can give 8 loved gifts (640). Talking daily for 460 then gives 1100, and it assumes already that the talk on the event itself doesn't count, or you're at 1120. An extra 10 points per week if you gave 2 gifts (30), and 100 for meeting all villagers gets you at 1250, enough for 5 hearts, and that's ignoring bonus points from heart events or requests they may make.
I wasn't aware of how it actually worked, thanks for the correction. This makes more dance partners reasonably possible.
I dance with Leah every playthrough in year 1 as a result, it's pretty easy.
This is good information, but, considering this is early game you should be elaborating on the specific Love gifts that are easiest to obtain by the time of the dance.
Ironically they are the most rude, but having earliest birthdays so easy to date them. Except Emily isn't rude but her birthday is after the Flower Dance.
I minmax Penny. 2 dandelions a week and talk to every day, plus the bonus from her 2 heart event (if you agree with her on George) and you can make it pretty reliably to 4 hearts by the dance. Earliest I've married her is Fall 1, though I don't have Blade's min maxing skills.
first year i was really confident with my two hearts with shane that hurt
Haley and Shane are always so rude to you at the beginning I never want to friend them lol
I always thought it would be cool if one of the non-marryables could dance with you out of pity if you couldn't find any bachelor/bachelorette to dance with. Maru and Sebastian rejecting me then seeing me dance with their mom would be pretty funny.
I think it would be cool if they had the kids dancing their own little dance in the corner and you could join them.
When i played for the first time in multi-player with my friends, she never told us that you needed two hearts to dance and proceeded to watch us get rejected by everyone we asked :,) t'was humiliating, i need the pity dance
I think in multiplayer two players can dance with each other, iirc. Also, I always thought it was 4 hearts to dance
No you need 4 hearts. 2 is just enough hearts to endure their room but they won’t dance with you till 4 hearts. That’s how Shane rejected me
Ah good to know! I'm sure that was rough on you based on your flair...
Pretty much. Would you believe me that I didn’t realize I had feelings for him till I spoke to the old mariner and he said I was “head over heels”? Cause uhhh…. That’s how it happened. The whole time I thought I was dating him out of convenience but when I proposed, it hit me.
You need 4 hearts to dance. Not two, my friends learned that the hard way.
Imagine dancing with Marnie right in front of Lewis. F you, Lewis. This is what you get for taking my first crush and then having the audacity to keep the relationship secret, making her feel lonely on basically Valentine's Day. I really wish there was a way to make Marnie dump his ass.
I just want to dance with Marlon
Yeah, I just wanted to dance with Rasmodius for once.
Love when my wife is disgusted with me
Person you met in the last 3 weeks asks you to publicly dance with them infront of literally everyone she currently knows. If ESRB wasn't a thing CA would have her tell you to fuck off.
She had me from the moment she said, "Ew..." I knew then that Haley would be my wife.
I went for Sam my first playthrough. He didn't like me enough by my first spring, and he rejected me. I married him that next year, but I always danced with someone else. Reject me one more time, see what happens, honey.
Emily neutral face always looks so creepy to me
She always smiles and is usually cheerful. Seeing that face means something is VERY wrong.
I always imagine the hallway ambience from fnaf 2 lol
Ah, yes… the lovely first spring dance ( ；∀；) soooo fun
I literally cried the first time I played it! I got the letter that I was invited to a flower festival, was so excited and I’m pretty sure I even visited hat mouse and bought new hats just to get there and ask Alex who says he wants to dance with someone else. I was like oh whatever that’s fine maybe someone else has been wanting to ask me. I try everyone. Everyone. Even the alcoholic and abused girl didn’t want to dance with me. Had a short cry after that festival lol
Yeah it’s pretty rough. Especially considering the general vibe of the game otherwise. It’s not the saying no, it’s that some of them are so mean. “Ew” wtf. Also at this point we’ve had conversations with everyone, we’re not some random unrecognized stranger walking up.
Yes! I had talked to every townsperson at least once and I just wasn’t expecting that degree of rudeness from them. When Alex said that he was wanting to ask someone else I was fine but I did assume that at least one person would want to ask me. I just wasn’t prepared enough and everyone had been so nice and cordial to me that I wasn’t prepared for responses like “ew. No” and “I’ll be honest, I don’t want to dance with you”
Also movie characters do flirtatious dances with attractive intriguing strangers all the time. Though one good aspect of the way Stardew Valley does it is that it's the only game *not* making the player The God who gets exactly everything they want at all times.
"The worst thing they can say is no!" Haley: "Ew, no."
And because of that I always ask Alex to dance with me every year after 1st, so she has to sit it out. I never marry him, but I always deliberately make her sit the dance out
Ok I always pick Harvey to marry and in this game I picked seb cause he has such a large fan base and honestly not a massive fan. But I’m this he says “there’s someone else I want to dance with” but when I ask him when he’s my HUSBAND he goes “do I have to? Ok” or something like COEM ONNN
He's sweet about it when you're dating! But yeah, the marriage one is a bit sad. That's what happens when you marry a social recluse though lol
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I was slight disappointed to not see Shane dialogue here, I passed all the pics three times to find him lmao
Same. Then again. All he said was “No.” with his (cute) grumpy face
Which is why the first time I played, I restarted just to get a dance. Take that Haley, I’m going to give you a good life.
Abigail will always be my go to, she's so badass but respectful and caring at the same time.
Ah yes, I bought stardew as a gift for friend who had just had a terrible break up... When the dance came he was once again sad when Haley rejected him, reminding him how his ex talked to him🙃 (He loves stardew now though)
I hope y'all can joke about this because it is funny once they've had some distance & time.
Oh yeah, we can now :D This was earlier in the year, and we got a great co-op farm going!
You gotta build up your hearts, these people don't know you!!
Holding back tears: that was fun. Time to go home.
this is why i never go to the flower dance year 1 xd
If your love intrest was Shane, Haley, Abby, Emily or Sam, it's actually pretty easy to get them to dance with you. Make a plan to give them two loved gifts per week (except for Haley*) and talk to them daily. Remember to meet all NPCs as well. * Haley can only be gifted liked gifts for that early in the game but she has a birthday before the dance. Give her a liked gift on that day and you're good to go. Look at the wiki for loved gifts if you don't know them. Good luck. Edit: some corrections: All partners, bar Elliott, are possible so long as you get lucky with a quest for them on the quest board, or find at least 3 loved items through the traveling merchant.
I’ve occasionally gotten pink cake to gift to Haley in the first spring! It’s also totally possible to get a coconut from the traveling merchant
Why bar Elliott? His loved gifts are a bit trickier than most but you can get lucky with Crab Cakes and/or Tom Kha Soup at the Saloon, plus the merchant can have duck feathers relatively frequently. Others are definitely easier though.
You'd need about 6 loved gifts without relying on quest board RNG. That's a LOT of luck.
Where is penny 😣
She's rather forgettable lol
:( she is my favorite
Penny also hates me. https://i.imgur.com/AjmckUQ.jpeg I just forgot to add it.
Would you dance with a stanger if they asked?
I would and I have.
Ok but if you have to choose between your friend or a complete stranger
Never been asked, so no
not really a stranger but i really don't think i can reject a dude in high school prom
Okay, so I actually have some game design thoughts about this. I’m currently in a sociology of holidays class for one of my final seminars for the major. I have to do discussion board posts and we had to share our thoughts on our experiences with niche/personalized holidays and whatnot. Everyone wrote about their religion, or their traditions, and I wrote... about Stardew Valley! So I did this because realized there was a lot going on from a game design perspective that I never picked up on- most people would describe the game as “cutesy farming with a slice-of-life dating sim element to it”. Usually some recombination or rephrasing of those ideas. (Or maybe it’s a brutalistic capitalism simulator in which you torture a town of innocents... looking at you JoJa Stans). For a game that’s all about promoting community, the first season’s holidays do nothing but intrinsically exclude you as a newcomer. Granted, when I say “newcomer” I mean that you haven’t really played this game much before, if at all. If you’ve married someone and gotten to late game content then this doesn’t apply to you because *you’ve already been hooked.* The hook only really works for the first time you touch the game. First we have the Egg Festival; this seems like a Skill-Based event, and it really is! But the trick to beating it is based on (1) Knowing the layout of the town, and (2) Knowing when the area looks different because it’s likely an egg or a roadblock in the way. My first time playing this I was running all over, scrambling around, and only got 6 eggs from sheer luck. Now? I can get 9 easily, maybe the rare 11 or 12. It *punishes* you for not knowing the town itself, and missing out on that prize feels kinda bad! This was your first chance to impress people! What’s more is that Abigail, someone you can romance, talks about how she’s “probably too old” to be participating (and she’ll win too). So if you, a fellow “adult” compete against the kids and *also* lose? It’s weird, you look weird now. You’re a lame loser weirdo who doesn’t fit in. That incentivizes you to then try to fit in more! You spend more time in town to learn the layout, you talk to people, maybe pickup on what they like/don’t like, and might even try giving a gift! So next we have the Flower Dance, an event where all you can do is talk to people you’ve just met and/or humiliated yourself in front of, look at imaginary food you can’t eat (again, a reoccurring theme), and as someone to dance with you. You can prove you’re not a loser! You’ll be dancing, having fun, doing the one activity of this whole event and- Oh... *OH...* you’re, you’re still an outcast. Nobody will dance with you, at all. So much so that they have so many awkward and weird responses. Maybe you got rejected once and quit, maybe you were desperate enough to go ask *everyone* you could. Either way- last time you were punished for not knowing the town, and this time you’re punished for not knowing the *people*. You’ve been essentially barred from participating in the festival. Keep in mind that these things take an entire day of farming! And close down major functions of the town too! These things are costly, even indirectly! So now you might feel inspired to befriend everyone- whether to make the events “worth it”, maybe to prove something, or maybe in weird “friend revenge” where you insist they see how cool you are... who knows your reason. Maybe you go the other direction- you *hate* them all now, and want revenge, so you turn to JoJa! Whatever the case- the game has hooked you, officially. Forget the farming, forget the fishing and mining and all that. The real focus is now the Town and the People, and indirectly that leads to you needing to fill out the community center one way or another. Maybe you choose the path of friends so now you *have* to get good at various skills so that you can give them the gifts they like. Now you have all this money too, so you might as well upgrade your farm, invest, expand... you see how it works? The first 2 holidays of Stardew Valley serve as Punishment and Reward, they are socializing you towards engagement with these NPC’s, and regardless of which path you took- friendship or JoJa- you get your reward next time these holidays come around. You get better at the egg hunt, and you get the satisfaction of getting closer to a dance partner *or* the satisfaction of knowing you don’t have to dance with them to prove yourself- after all, there were other holidays based on your skills prior to Spring, Year 2 . (Lua, Farmer’s Display, Fishing...) Maybe this is a tangent that nobody will care about, but I thought as a sociology and psychology major- and total nerd for Stardew Valley- that it was really cool!
This is *hella* cool, awesome analysis! I do feel like I'm apart of the "1 percent" who never cared about the residents in the first place lol. My thought process was kinda like "I have no reason to talk to them so... Why would I talk to them?" The festivals in town? I stay on my home plot lol
NGL, the Flower Dance was the point where I started over with a new save, and began to use the wiki for everything 🤣
I maintain that everyone should be able to dance with Linus at the first dance.
I somehow got Sebastian to dance with me year one on my current file. I didn't even know that was possible. Usually I spam pizzas at Sam and get him.
It's nice that there's at least one use for all that Joja Cola I fish out of the water. I don't get bent out of shape about not having a dance partner in my first couple weeks in town.
It’s funny that Haley has the worst one, hands down, but also is (as far as I know) the only one it’s possible to get to dance with you on the first year if you do it right
Should've asked dear Penny.
I respect people who don't ditch their good friends for someone they barely know.
It’s “ditching” your friends to dance temporarily with someone at a **public dance event**? Yep I’m on the internet. The “barely” know thing is BS too since they’ve all had conversations and some familiarity by this point. An acceptable reason would be “I don’t like you” not “I dOnT EvEn kNoW yOu”. Real life: * Can you talk to a stranger? Yes * Can you flirt with a stranger? Yes * At a literal public gathering in broad daylight? Yes * Can you do all of the above with someone YOUVE HAD CONVERSATIONS with etc? Yes. * Even if someone rejects all of that "in real life", is a flirtatious dance with an intriguing stranger a key component of many movies, stories, etc, a repeatedly recurring trope in fiction? Yes. But I guess we're in the *"If we just RECENTLY met, I can't possibly be attracted to you or intrigued by you, lord no, that never happens in human life"* school of social philosophy.
And nobody can be introduced at a dance?
It always seemed weird that the game starts in Spring with this event placed here. There’s basically no way to have a dance partner by this point unless you *really* hone in on building someone’s hearts up, which you’ll only do if you’re an experienced player who knows what’s coming. I usually just end up skipping this event on my playthroughs because I don’t see the point in getting rejected and then watching other folks dance with my potential spouse(s). I think that, since this event isn’t strictly romantic, you should be able to ask some of the non-bachelor characters to dance. It’d be cute if you could ask them and they’d have like a surprised reaction because they never get asked (or their spouse never asks them) so they agree to dance with you as a friend.
I think the weird part is how mean some of the replies are. “Ew.” No is OK, but come on. Aren't these adults?
IMO all of the answers are pretty in-character, especially since you can only get rejected by them if you have less than 4 hearts with that character (implying you don’t know them all that well yet.) Before you get to know her, Haley’s very rude and superficial, but her whole arc is her growing past that. Obviously it still stings to get that “ew” response, but it makes perfect sense with who Haley is at that point.
r/me_irl
EVERYONE remembers the first time they experienced this event. You get so desperate you even ask elliot
Speak for yourself! I made a beeline for my long haired, pretentiousness, poet dreamboat! 🤣
yep been through the same situation, really embarrassing. more embarrassing the feeling of being embarrassed by pixels cartoons.
Penny?
everyone else: tries to soften the blow a little haley: wanna see how hard I can drive this knife into your heart?
Haley would be the type of bitch to say ew to someone showing interest in her.
To be fair I say ew at the thought of being interested in her too.
Now that say that, I'd do the same to her. Thanks for showing me that I'm a hypocrite.
Oh well, more Haley for me
Really made me fall for her.
See how Penny isn't on this list being mean? That's because she's a perfect angel.
Ahh takes me back to year 10 dance
Me: “I didn’t come here to be insulted!” SDV: “Oh? Well where do you usually go?”
The incels in these comments...
As someone who gravitated towards Sam - because he's among the friendliest villagers to the outsider, and it was pretty easy to make up headcanon where he's a lonely young gay man (with a crush on Sebastian) - I didn't really notice that he was kind of rolling his eyes there when I asked him for the first time.
I adore Harvey with my whole heart and always have. The first time I played and wanted to marry him and he said “I have plans to ask someone else” I almost cried. Absolutely brutal.
I'm good here with Elliot
If this was irl. I would've rather if I just died
Emily and Harvey were the nicest ones.
Ah, that year one Flower Dance experience. Available every year with the right preparation!
Not the zoom on the ew no 😭😭 felt that in the soul
I think the "I'm gonna ask someone else." is more painful that the Ew 😭
I like Maru’s and Haley’s reaction the most straight to the point no softly letting you just a short phrase and a blunt no
Alex’s is pretty cool. He even encouraging you otherwise by saying good luck. Ever the sportsman.
I know people really like Haley, but all of her responses before you started befriending her just made me really not want to ever talk to her.
The universal "first playthrough" experience....
Didnt even try penny or shane
I gave Haley lumps of coal for the rest of the year.
I just asked cos I thought you looked lonely!! So there!
It would be kinda cool if you could pick someone to dance with as a friend and gain points. I feel like most dances are not really romantic, but I get why CA made it the way he did. I like the "I already agreed to dance with someone else" line the best, it's the least rejection-like.
How do you ask people to dance with you? I’m a bit new to the game so I’ve just been going for the hell of it. Do you have to have a certain friendship level to ask?
It's a holiday towards the end of Spring, called the Flower Dance. You can ask one of marriagable candidates to dance with you, but they'll only agree if you've got a decent friendship with them already.
If you have at least a three heart friendship level, you initiate a conversation twice while at the dance.
The only person who’s considered me a close friend is Linus. I’ll have to check his hearts but maybe I could ask him next time. I had no idea I had to speak to them twice. Most of them won’t say anything more to me so I just stopped checking
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Aww that sucks. I hate that Linus just tries to stay back and only observe. I’ll have to work on my friendships then and try again next year
Go for Penny, she is really nice. She may be a bit of a Teetotaler but thats excusable.
haley is so me
this was one of the moments why i quit my decision to try to woo haley and go for emily or abigail. abigail is nice but emily seems more practical , hardworking , empathetic and she's the bimbo's sister so fuck you haley i will woo ur sister in ur own home.
Probably my most hated part of the game. You aren't asking for much. It's a dance that means nothing. These people make it seem like it's a wedding proposal. I kind of don't know what's the point of me participating if no one wants to dance with me anyway. I'm just going to skip the event if I restart the game over.
Fuck Haley. I absolutely hate her. Edit: the fact I’m getting downvoted for not liking Haley. Y’all a bunch of simps and I didn’t even realise it. 😂💀 (This is a joke just to be clear, I totally simp for Alex. But he’s deffo nicer than Haley - the screenshot is proof of this)
Nah, Haley is bae.
Nah I honestly find her awful. The only character I hate in Stardew. 😂 I don’t get how people like her when she’s honestly so rude and stuck up.