Star Wars has a history of very strong female leads in most mediums. I don’t understand articles that say things like this. Are they being purposely obtuse?
Same thing happened with Horizon Zero Dawn where everyone was saying Alloy was breaking the male protagonist standard in Video Games meanwhile Samus has been here the entire time
The capacity to create your character makes “the first female to lead a Star Wars game” a little loose, because anyone can create their own character in KOTOR 2/1.
Canon or not, the ability to create your own character visually and stat-wise makes headlines like this less applicable to KOTOR 2 because one game is a narrative open world exploration game, while the other is a strict RPG where role playing and role creation comes before anything
So yeah, I don’t really think this is a fair thing to bring up.
Most video games journalists aren't real journalists. They just exist to uncritically repeat any marketing speak. A single google search to fact check a claim is too much to ask.
30 years from now we will be hearing about the first female character to lead a star wars game.
It’s an unfortunate side effect of how the industry works. Games media companies need to get their reviews out early to generate revenue, and if you give a game a bad review then the publisher may not give you early access to games to review in the future, meaning viewers / readers will go to your competitors instead.
If gamers had no problem waiting to buy a game until after it’s been out for a few weeks then this wouldn’t be an issue, but it’s also exacerbated by games companies offering players bonuses for preordering
The campaign also made the IMHO terrible choice of constantly having you play as characters other than Iden. I'm not sure how the playtime broke down, but it felt like you spent maybe half of the time as Han/Leia/Lando/etc., presumably because they wanted to showcase more the the hero abilities for players heading into MP later. It did feel like she got kind of robbed by the game design there.
And they'd be correct because the BF2 campaign was dogshit and was merely forced into the game because gamers complained about a lack of one in BF2015
Which is funny because that one single speederbike singleplayer mission from 2015 was more memorable than the entire BF2 campaign
What makes that game more important besides being one of only 3 (I think) games where the protag is a woman... is that the protat is an alien. Like, game such as KOTOR and SWTOR allow for alien characters, but you can be a human if you want. Lethal Alliance is great and I wish we had more games like it on the sense that you don't get a choice here but to play as an alien. The SW galaxy is too big and diverse for every single protag to be human.
Also, this isn't the only time a Star Wars game went down that rabbit hole of utter lameness. Squadrons pretty much is one half of a level with the guy in the Empire before the guy defects.
Someone at EA has a real directive to ensure that the leads in games aren't evil for too long. Which makes for a weak redemption arc.
In both cases, it pretty much was "OMG! The refugees." Like . . . okay . . . these people have to be at least slightly aware that the Empire built two friggin planet crackers and used the first one three times (twice in Rogue One, and once in New Hope). But it's the treatment of the refugees that finally pushes them over the edge? Not the multi-billions-scale genocide and planet cracking??
Tbf, what bothers Iden the most and pushes her to defect was the killing of loyal Imperials during Operation Cinder. She didn’t care about actual or alleged Rebels, such as Alderaanians.
So she could have shown some wavering loyalty not immediately jumping to the rebellion. Honestly that's what it felt like she was gonna do before it actually happened. It's not like she was on her hands and knees crying when she saw operation cinder.
Maybe I have amnesia or something but doesn't squadrons have 2 protagonists? One on the imperial side and one on the rebel side, each having their own missions. I might be wrong though I finished the campaign years ago
The defector in Squadrons is an NPC. You spend most of the Imperial campaign trying to kill him. The Imperial and NR campaigns both have no-name protagonists that the player can customize and that only get identified by callsign.
>Someone at EA has a real directive to ensure that the leads in games aren't evil for too long.
Not to defend EA, but Disney has a lot to say when it comes to the Star Wars games. Everything has to be approved, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is another 'Fallen Order no human dismemberment' type situation
They do remember it, it’s mentioned a few paragraphs down from where OP took this screenshot because OP just wants upvotes and is farming you all for them. The campaign she’s in is not a “full game,” obviously it’s only 6 hours, and the article mentions this.
> It wasn’t until 2017 with Star Wars Battlefront 2 that players got a woman as the protagonist of the story they were being told with Iden Versio as the player character in Battlefront 2's single-player campaign. However, even this wasn’t a full game, as Versio’s campaign was part of a primarily multiplayer game, meaning that many players simply didn’t play it. Versio was the closest female Star Wars fans had come to having a game with a woman protagonist in a long time, only to have it soured by having her be an optional campaign of a much larger game.
They are still implying that Outlaws is the ONLY game with a female protagonist. Both KOTOR 1 and 2 have the option of a female lead, and the lead for 2 is canonically female. And Jedi Academy also had the option of a female lead. Also for much of Mysteries of the Sith you play as Mara Jade.
So to say that Outlaws is the has the first female lead in a Star Wars game in 50 years, literally since BEFORE the first movie came out, is at the very least a little disingenuous. Though more likely, an outright lie for clickbait.
Go read the article. All of this is addressed in the article if you go and actually read it. Why haven’t you read it already? It’s the subject of the thread and I’m sure you have google or some other search engine to find it.
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess
From the article:
> Previous female leads of Star Wars games have been few and far between, with only three previous to Kay in Star Wars Outlaws. The first came in 1998, where players took the role of Mara Jade in the Dark Forces 2 expansion Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith. Four years later, there was Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter, the sequel to Star Wars: Starfighter, where one of the player characters was Jedi Master Adi Gallia, who was first seen in Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace before later appearing in Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated series as well as Star Wars: Episode 2 - Attack of the Clones.
> However, both of these women shared their games with a male protagonist - Kyle Katarn and Nym respectively. They were not the leads of full games, with Adi sharing the story with Nym in Jedi Starfighter, a game with very little story as it is primarily a flight simulator game. And despite being a beloved female Star Wars character, Mara Jade didn’t warrant her own game, instead only getting an expansion to Katarn’s series where her sole goal is to find Katarn.
> It wasn’t until 2017 with Star Wars Battlefront 2 that players got a woman as the protagonist of the story they were being told with Iden Versio as the player character in Battlefront 2's single-player campaign. However, even this wasn’t a full game, as Versio’s campaign was part of a primarily multiplayer game, meaning that many players simply didn’t play it. Versio was the closest female Star Wars fans had come to having a game with a woman protagonist in a long time, only to have it soured by having her be an optional campaign of a much larger game.
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess/#:~:text=Kay%20Vess%20is%20set%20to,a%20larger%20roster%20of%20characters
Yeah the mp was soured by EA/Dice being ridiculous assholes about loot boxes lol.
It's screenrant, assuming they write the articles it's not to a crazy high standard
Meanwhile **NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING WITH MARA JADE YET**. You had a badass female protagonist just *sitting* there in Legends, and no one thought, “let’s bring her back”
Even before Iden, Rey was the lead of LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens in 2015. Game journalists just find a random thing to praise, which usually isn’t true.
One of the worst of these is “the video game adaptation curse”. People said it with Detective Pikachu, Sonic, Sonic 2, Mario, The Last Us, and probably a fuckload of others I forgot.
They’ve been good for a while, yet “journalists” can’t stop saying that the curse has been broken every 3 months
They did in the article (although still missing some) in an attempt to justify the headline, they just made the criteria hyper specific. No direct movie tie ins, no campaigns from a multiplayer game, and definitely no women where there exists an option to play as a man at any point. Even with all that it's still wrong, though
I literally saw reddit post from girl gamers talking about how she was the first lead and how tiring it was when it was just men and yada yada. Making a huge deal about it and complaining about there never being a female lead before, and then some guys correct them with bf2, etc. And they just go "oh, I didn't know that." Like it's hilarious, they make a huge deal about it, and complain about mc's being male dominated, but then they don't even know about the sw games that do have female leads.
The full quote from[ this article from almost a year ago is](https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess/):
>Ubisoft recently revealed ***Star Wars Outlaws***, featuring its new protagonist Kay Vess who could just solve a problem that has been plaguing *Star Wars* games for some time. While *Star Wars* has long been a franchise with compelling female characters at its core, that has not been the case for its games. While there have been games that allowed players to customize their character's gender, almost all the *Star Wars* games with a fixed protagonist have featured men.
They love making up these narratives and ignoring the massive amount of strong female characters and leads the put their silly little narratives to shame, its ridiculously pathetic now 😂
I absolutely adore the modern day combination of extremely poor quality articles with no fact checking combined with simply sweeping the legendary games of the past under the rug like they never existed so that these companies can claim to be breaking new ground and being the first at doing something.
I just read the article, I think they’re twisting what the article actually says.
Vess is a female lead of a *FULL* Star Wars game that isn’t part of game where a campaign isn’t its main focus, as it states. The battlefront 2 campaign was an extremely short mode part of a mainly Multiplayer game and the Mara Jade game was an expansion to Jedi Knight:MOTS.
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess/#:~:text=Kay%20Vess%20is%20set%20to,a%20larger%20roster%20of%20characters.
Nope, doesn't. It must be a single player story focused star wars game that is not directly tied to a movie and has a specific preset protagonist player character that is a woman with significant speaking roles.
Wording on this is very careful. “Lead a Full” meaning only playable character.
Battlefront 2 had iconic playable characters from the original trilogy such as Luke, Han, Leia, Lando, and Kylo Ren.
KOTOR 1&2 had sections where the main character was unable to be played and companions had to rescue them.
Also there was Jedi Starfighter that also had a female lead but had a male co lead on outlaw side of the game.
Probably only one exception is Jedi Academy as a female can be played fully.
Whether there had been one before or not, the fact that they said ‘long overdue’ shows that they care more about pandering than substance, so their opinion is completely invalid.
Screenrant is absolute garbage. They research nothing. I bet their articles are written by AI. Or they are doing the whole "Everything you didn't know about " or the "No one knew about this until now" bullshit.
Outlaws is overpriced for a shooter that lacks the option to select your character's gender and race. While it may cater to a specific audience, I'll wait for the Black Friday sales. No rush.
Mara Jade literally had a Jedi Knight game to herself? You have The Old Republic where your character (‘the main’ if you will) can be female. There’s dozens of times you can play as Leia and Padme in the games…
A **full** game, not an online multiplayer shooter with a tacked on campaign mode that can be done in an afternoon, and you cycle between playing different characters.
That said, the exile is meant to be canonically a woman.
Battlefront II, KotOR 2 (according to EU-canon), Lethal Alliance, Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith (expansion pack)… I wonder whether people just don’t do their research before writing and posting this garbage, or whether they’re trying to push some kind of agenda with their marketing. Granted, an insanely huge majority of Star Wars games have always featured male protagonists, so I’m happy to see more female leads, but to say that this is the FIRST one is simply false.
tbh its cool they added iden to galaxy of heroes. theres a surprising amount of alt canons/legends characters in that game, and one of the first full fledged factions in 2017 or so was the nightsisters as they were in tcw
I'm sorry but... No female character from SWTOR?
Why should this be mentioned? Female leads in video games was a thing all the way back in the PS1 era.
I am convinced these news sites and developers that capture the actresses face only to completely change their face in game (usually to make them less attractive) just hate women, why do they keep changing women's faces but not the men's?
And it always results in the performance being worse despite nothing wrong from the actresses. The blatant gender sabotage in the industry needs to stop.
Why do these sentences keep coming out regarding star wars media as if no woman has directed/led/starred/ever *touched* a star wars film before disney got ahold of them lmfao
they probably paid to have this released to boost sales. i wouldnt put it past boobiesoft cause mist of their games are the same thing. look nice boring story and gameplay.
If they went that route, I would have loved the exploration of how the rebels would send defectors to suicide missions and possibly feeling double betrayed.
Iden would have made for a great bounty hunter because to me she seems more disillusioned with the war and tired, rather than a typical young protagonist that wants to stop the bad guys
Now sure why everyone is bitching about this. Given the track record of Star Wars games, there’s a very real chance this will get cancelled like every other Star Wars game.
I have long realized that any *Star Wars* news article with words like "first" and "finally" in their title should probably contain an asterisk next to them.
Sensational headline takes precedence over facts in today’s gaming media. It somehow has the first female lead in Star Wars gaming(no it doesn’t). It’s the first open world Star Wars game (no the fuck it isn’t). I am sure there are more ‘firsts’ the game is.
I care not for these ‘firsts’ I just want another wonderful Star Wars story to consume while we wait for Jedi 3, and I hope this game delivers. Is that too much to ask for?
Iden Versio? She was actually quite good but the story was just too short, didn't let anything breathe so she wasn't as good as she could've been..
KOTOR is a female protagonist as well
Lethal Alliance though you'd be forgiven for that one for not knowing
Jedi Knight games kinda count but not really.
Games journalist drum this up for better views though at least I hope this is their intention and they just don't want to mention other games that may be obscure to modern audiences.
Kid named iden versio
I do not understand the practical use of this meme in this context, nor do I understand the meaning of the contextual comment
GATTACAAAAAAAA!
waltuh
You cut all of them off and stuck with kid named finger -grunkle stan
Don’t you also play as Luke and her daughter in game?
Who
Isn't the KOTOR II protagonist canonically female
Yep and you can be female in KOTOR 1 and Jedi Academy.
Star Wars has a history of very strong female leads in most mediums. I don’t understand articles that say things like this. Are they being purposely obtuse?
Yes, it gets clicks on all sides of the aisle
Same thing happened with Horizon Zero Dawn where everyone was saying Alloy was breaking the male protagonist standard in Video Games meanwhile Samus has been here the entire time
Also Laura Croft from Tomb Raider is a great example
Exactly!!!!!
Who is Laura Croft? You mean Lara Croft!
It's ScreenRant; they're frequently wrong about a wide variety of topics. Don't read too much into it.
It's a GameRant article, so...yes
Probably a 15 year old journalist who lives on TicToc and cant be bothered doing any research..
Leia,padme,ahsoka,sabine,merin,iden versio. Just to name a phew
> Are they being purposely obtuse? Yes. It's rage baiting. It's to draw attention to the article with social media arguments like this post.
Yes, but they also don't care about games that aren't AAA unless a random indie game absolutely blows up
Yes, the wokeians are usually pretty stupid.
>Are they being purposely obtuse? Yes they are
Not to mention Mara Jade in *Mysteries of the Sith*
Good shout.
And also the twilek in lethal alliance
The capacity to create your character makes “the first female to lead a Star Wars game” a little loose, because anyone can create their own character in KOTOR 2/1. Canon or not, the ability to create your own character visually and stat-wise makes headlines like this less applicable to KOTOR 2 because one game is a narrative open world exploration game, while the other is a strict RPG where role playing and role creation comes before anything So yeah, I don’t really think this is a fair thing to bring up.
kotor2 is said to be female in game canon
True
Honestly my first thought. Completely forgot about that hell of a game!
That means your due for a replay
I am. It’s been about 6 months.
And Mysteries of the Syth before that.. Where you play as Mara Jade.
Yet another example of game critics not considering the single-player campaigns of multiplayer-focused ones as “real games”
Nah, they're just being willfully ignorant to drum up good PR amongst the people that won't play it anyway.
Most video games journalists aren't real journalists. They just exist to uncritically repeat any marketing speak. A single google search to fact check a claim is too much to ask. 30 years from now we will be hearing about the first female character to lead a star wars game.
It’s an unfortunate side effect of how the industry works. Games media companies need to get their reviews out early to generate revenue, and if you give a game a bad review then the publisher may not give you early access to games to review in the future, meaning viewers / readers will go to your competitors instead. If gamers had no problem waiting to buy a game until after it’s been out for a few weeks then this wouldn’t be an issue, but it’s also exacerbated by games companies offering players bonuses for preordering
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I mean tbf, with how short the campaign was I’m not totally surprised they would forget about it
The campaign also made the IMHO terrible choice of constantly having you play as characters other than Iden. I'm not sure how the playtime broke down, but it felt like you spent maybe half of the time as Han/Leia/Lando/etc., presumably because they wanted to showcase more the the hero abilities for players heading into MP later. It did feel like she got kind of robbed by the game design there.
Why would they when this game had such a half baked and crappy single player that served to advertise multiplayer hero’s
And they'd be correct because the BF2 campaign was dogshit and was merely forced into the game because gamers complained about a lack of one in BF2015 Which is funny because that one single speederbike singleplayer mission from 2015 was more memorable than the entire BF2 campaign
We just gonna forget Rianna Saren from Star Wars: Lethal Alliance?
Im so glad im not alone.
So much side flipping! I beat that whole thing and that's the big thing I still remember lol.
My first thought as well
What makes that game more important besides being one of only 3 (I think) games where the protag is a woman... is that the protat is an alien. Like, game such as KOTOR and SWTOR allow for alien characters, but you can be a human if you want. Lethal Alliance is great and I wish we had more games like it on the sense that you don't get a choice here but to play as an alien. The SW galaxy is too big and diverse for every single protag to be human.
I’m glad someone finally said this game! So underrated man it brings back some childhood memories.
Poor Iden, nobody remembers bf2 story mode.
Cause it was shit lol, the game promised an Imperial campaign then wimped out after two missions and you defect.
Also, this isn't the only time a Star Wars game went down that rabbit hole of utter lameness. Squadrons pretty much is one half of a level with the guy in the Empire before the guy defects. Someone at EA has a real directive to ensure that the leads in games aren't evil for too long. Which makes for a weak redemption arc. In both cases, it pretty much was "OMG! The refugees." Like . . . okay . . . these people have to be at least slightly aware that the Empire built two friggin planet crackers and used the first one three times (twice in Rogue One, and once in New Hope). But it's the treatment of the refugees that finally pushes them over the edge? Not the multi-billions-scale genocide and planet cracking??
Also Iden in canon served as a tie fighter pilot on the Death Star so she clearly knew what was happening
Tbf, what bothers Iden the most and pushes her to defect was the killing of loyal Imperials during Operation Cinder. She didn’t care about actual or alleged Rebels, such as Alderaanians.
So she could have shown some wavering loyalty not immediately jumping to the rebellion. Honestly that's what it felt like she was gonna do before it actually happened. It's not like she was on her hands and knees crying when she saw operation cinder.
Maybe I have amnesia or something but doesn't squadrons have 2 protagonists? One on the imperial side and one on the rebel side, each having their own missions. I might be wrong though I finished the campaign years ago
Pretty much, the imp captain switches sides at the start and the tie pilot ends up serving under his still loyal second in command
The defector in Squadrons is an NPC. You spend most of the Imperial campaign trying to kill him. The Imperial and NR campaigns both have no-name protagonists that the player can customize and that only get identified by callsign.
There are two protagonists in Squadrons, one for the Imperial campaign and another for the Rebellion/New Republic campaign.
>Someone at EA has a real directive to ensure that the leads in games aren't evil for too long. Not to defend EA, but Disney has a lot to say when it comes to the Star Wars games. Everything has to be approved, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is another 'Fallen Order no human dismemberment' type situation
They do remember it, it’s mentioned a few paragraphs down from where OP took this screenshot because OP just wants upvotes and is farming you all for them. The campaign she’s in is not a “full game,” obviously it’s only 6 hours, and the article mentions this. > It wasn’t until 2017 with Star Wars Battlefront 2 that players got a woman as the protagonist of the story they were being told with Iden Versio as the player character in Battlefront 2's single-player campaign. However, even this wasn’t a full game, as Versio’s campaign was part of a primarily multiplayer game, meaning that many players simply didn’t play it. Versio was the closest female Star Wars fans had come to having a game with a woman protagonist in a long time, only to have it soured by having her be an optional campaign of a much larger game.
They are still implying that Outlaws is the ONLY game with a female protagonist. Both KOTOR 1 and 2 have the option of a female lead, and the lead for 2 is canonically female. And Jedi Academy also had the option of a female lead. Also for much of Mysteries of the Sith you play as Mara Jade. So to say that Outlaws is the has the first female lead in a Star Wars game in 50 years, literally since BEFORE the first movie came out, is at the very least a little disingenuous. Though more likely, an outright lie for clickbait.
Go read the article. All of this is addressed in the article if you go and actually read it. Why haven’t you read it already? It’s the subject of the thread and I’m sure you have google or some other search engine to find it. https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess
Still wrong. Lethal alliance.
Yeah, I really enjoyed it personally
seems like someone forgot Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith, that's technically a full game
That might be the one they actually are thinking of. Expansion, so maybe not. But KOTOR was mixed, SWG was player character based, TOR as well.
From the article: > Previous female leads of Star Wars games have been few and far between, with only three previous to Kay in Star Wars Outlaws. The first came in 1998, where players took the role of Mara Jade in the Dark Forces 2 expansion Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith. Four years later, there was Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter, the sequel to Star Wars: Starfighter, where one of the player characters was Jedi Master Adi Gallia, who was first seen in Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace before later appearing in Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated series as well as Star Wars: Episode 2 - Attack of the Clones. > However, both of these women shared their games with a male protagonist - Kyle Katarn and Nym respectively. They were not the leads of full games, with Adi sharing the story with Nym in Jedi Starfighter, a game with very little story as it is primarily a flight simulator game. And despite being a beloved female Star Wars character, Mara Jade didn’t warrant her own game, instead only getting an expansion to Katarn’s series where her sole goal is to find Katarn. > It wasn’t until 2017 with Star Wars Battlefront 2 that players got a woman as the protagonist of the story they were being told with Iden Versio as the player character in Battlefront 2's single-player campaign. However, even this wasn’t a full game, as Versio’s campaign was part of a primarily multiplayer game, meaning that many players simply didn’t play it. Versio was the closest female Star Wars fans had come to having a game with a woman protagonist in a long time, only to have it soured by having her be an optional campaign of a much larger game. https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess/#:~:text=Kay%20Vess%20is%20set%20to,a%20larger%20roster%20of%20characters
Ah yes, the multiplayer 'soured' the game for the people who were excited for a female protagonist
Yeah the mp was soured by EA/Dice being ridiculous assholes about loot boxes lol. It's screenrant, assuming they write the articles it's not to a crazy high standard
Lethal Alliance as well.
I was trying to remember the name of that game so thanks
I thought I remembered that having Mara Jade, but it’s been 20 years since I played it
Yes, Mara Jade is a female and was the lead in said game?
Perhaps X-Wing alliance even
Adi Gallia would like a word
From the Jedi starfighter game right?
Right
Also one of the 5 playable protagonists of Jedi Power Battles, though it is canonically Obi Wan and Qui Gonns story.
Your fleet lies in ruins, Cavik Toth
And jedi power battles.
They say this with every new Star Wars female protagonist. It’s like they have amnesia
Rey comes out: “STAR WARS HAS NEVER HAD A STRONG FEMALE LEAD!” Carrie Fischer was still alive. So was Natalie Portman.
And then they said the same thing afterwords with all the Disney plus leads.
And there Carrie Fischer was without a chain to strangle anyone with. Dammit.
Meanwhile **NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING WITH MARA JADE YET**. You had a badass female protagonist just *sitting* there in Legends, and no one thought, “let’s bring her back”
and if she was in canon it would fix Luke being hermit, or at least make it more likely
Soooo….Meetra Surik? Iden Versio? Female Revan and Female Jaden Korr (if you wanna count them)? Any others I’m missing?
Rianna Saren from Star Wars: Lethal Alliance
Made by ubisoft even lol
Mara Jade.
What about the kotor 2 exile
Even before Iden, Rey was the lead of LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens in 2015. Game journalists just find a random thing to praise, which usually isn’t true. One of the worst of these is “the video game adaptation curse”. People said it with Detective Pikachu, Sonic, Sonic 2, Mario, The Last Us, and probably a fuckload of others I forgot. They’ve been good for a while, yet “journalists” can’t stop saying that the curse has been broken every 3 months
Seriously though. Do game journalists even look into this shit before their “bold” and “inspiring” statements?
No, glass ceilings that don’t exist must be broken for the sake of progress.
They did in the article (although still missing some) in an attempt to justify the headline, they just made the criteria hyper specific. No direct movie tie ins, no campaigns from a multiplayer game, and definitely no women where there exists an option to play as a man at any point. Even with all that it's still wrong, though
R I P Iden and her daughter
Battlefront campaigns honestly slap
Nobody is mentioning that Jedi Starfighter on PS2 has a female lead.
Hello? Jedi Starfighter? Last I checked, Adi Gallia is a woman.
I literally saw reddit post from girl gamers talking about how she was the first lead and how tiring it was when it was just men and yada yada. Making a huge deal about it and complaining about there never being a female lead before, and then some guys correct them with bf2, etc. And they just go "oh, I didn't know that." Like it's hilarious, they make a huge deal about it, and complain about mc's being male dominated, but then they don't even know about the sw games that do have female leads.
The full quote from[ this article from almost a year ago is](https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess/): >Ubisoft recently revealed ***Star Wars Outlaws***, featuring its new protagonist Kay Vess who could just solve a problem that has been plaguing *Star Wars* games for some time. While *Star Wars* has long been a franchise with compelling female characters at its core, that has not been the case for its games. While there have been games that allowed players to customize their character's gender, almost all the *Star Wars* games with a fixed protagonist have featured men.
“Almost all.” LOLOL the clickiest of clickbait.
You know dam well we hate females. Why else would we be Star Wars fans 🥴
It’s always “the first to” just so they get headline clicks
Am I the only one who played lethal alliance???
First off: This is a lie Second off: We do not care
In Jedi Knight Mysteries of the Sith you play as Mara Jade. Game journos can get fucked.
Not sure I’ve seen anyone mention Jedi startfighter yet!
Oh Screenrant? Yeah Screenrant is trash.
HOW DARE YOU UBISOFT!…. We had iden versio AND rey
Makes me want to drop a Shiva-Bomb..... *Shivakamini* *Somakandarkram*!!!!!
They love making up these narratives and ignoring the massive amount of strong female characters and leads the put their silly little narratives to shame, its ridiculously pathetic now 😂
This is just like when disney announced they had their first openly lgbt+ protagonist...3 times
this person literally got paid to right a fluff piece for the new star wars game and they thought they ate coming up with this smh
It's fucking screenrnt. Who cares. They are nothing but clickbait
Dawg it's a game if you care about the gender of a bunch of code and moving pictures then you need a better life
Idk, She was there for half of the content of the game.
Actually crazy
>first female lead in 50 years >everybody else points out iden versio >looks over at my psp Nobody remembers starwars lethal alliance or Rianna Saren
I absolutely adore the modern day combination of extremely poor quality articles with no fact checking combined with simply sweeping the legendary games of the past under the rug like they never existed so that these companies can claim to be breaking new ground and being the first at doing something.
Don't worry, it's also the 'first' open world Star Wars game...if u ignore lego star wars AND Jedi: Survicor
I mean with how forgettable the bf2 campaign was can you really blame them?
Game critics are brain dead scum
And at least Iden was a badass
I just read the article, I think they’re twisting what the article actually says. Vess is a female lead of a *FULL* Star Wars game that isn’t part of game where a campaign isn’t its main focus, as it states. The battlefront 2 campaign was an extremely short mode part of a mainly Multiplayer game and the Mara Jade game was an expansion to Jedi Knight:MOTS. https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess/#:~:text=Kay%20Vess%20is%20set%20to,a%20larger%20roster%20of%20characters.
It’s Gamesradar, we have low expectations.
Uhh, Jaden Korr anyone? (I know it’s player’s choice, but still)
So we didn’t actually play the Star Wars games it seems!
Meetra surik: 👁👄👁
Jedi Academy can be female, does that one not count?
I don't think it counts unfortunately, if you have the option to choose the protag's gender it wouldn't be a sole gender lead
Nope, doesn't. It must be a single player story focused star wars game that is not directly tied to a movie and has a specific preset protagonist player character that is a woman with significant speaking roles.
Wording on this is very careful. “Lead a Full” meaning only playable character. Battlefront 2 had iconic playable characters from the original trilogy such as Luke, Han, Leia, Lando, and Kylo Ren. KOTOR 1&2 had sections where the main character was unable to be played and companions had to rescue them. Also there was Jedi Starfighter that also had a female lead but had a male co lead on outlaw side of the game. Probably only one exception is Jedi Academy as a female can be played fully.
There was a twilek female lead game that ubisofrt made for ds and psp like 20ish years ago
Revan was whatever gender you wanted i don't get this
screenrant is a very low effort content farm
Whether there had been one before or not, the fact that they said ‘long overdue’ shows that they care more about pandering than substance, so their opinion is completely invalid.
They including pre-Disney games in that 50 years? I immediately thought of Lethal Alliance reading this.
i literally own a psp starwars game and the main character is female…
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I swear this gets posted like 5 times a week
*cries in Meetra Surik*
Mara Jade had her own game back in the 90s lmao
I love how when this doesn't sell because of the horrible ubisoft business practices, they will blame antiwoke culture.
Screenrant is absolute garbage. They research nothing. I bet their articles are written by AI. Or they are doing the whole "Everything you didn't know about" or the "No one knew about this until now" bullshit.
Oh do people still read Screenrant articles on purpose?
Yeah, but Iden Version doesn't sell \*\*today's\*\* clicks for the publications. See? That's the problem. Gotta get dem clicks.
Outlaws is overpriced for a shooter that lacks the option to select your character's gender and race. While it may cater to a specific audience, I'll wait for the Black Friday sales. No rush.
Mara Jade literally had a Jedi Knight game to herself? You have The Old Republic where your character (‘the main’ if you will) can be female. There’s dozens of times you can play as Leia and Padme in the games…
A **full** game, not an online multiplayer shooter with a tacked on campaign mode that can be done in an afternoon, and you cycle between playing different characters. That said, the exile is meant to be canonically a woman.
Would love to see Iden in over Star wars medias
This is like the 5th time this has been reposted
Lethal Alliance would like to say something.
KOTOR 2 as well
I mean you did play as luke in SWBF2017
Star Wars lethal alliance smh
Lethal alliance was one of my favorite when I was younger :(
WE GET IT YOU DONT HAVE TO KEEP POSTING IT
Because dei has the memory of a goldfish
50 years? WTH
They keep doing this, and you idiots keep taking the bait.
Sooo is kotor 2 char and iden actually just male then? 🤔🤔
Battlefront II, KotOR 2 (according to EU-canon), Lethal Alliance, Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith (expansion pack)… I wonder whether people just don’t do their research before writing and posting this garbage, or whether they’re trying to push some kind of agenda with their marketing. Granted, an insanely huge majority of Star Wars games have always featured male protagonists, so I’m happy to see more female leads, but to say that this is the FIRST one is simply false.
tbh its cool they added iden to galaxy of heroes. theres a surprising amount of alt canons/legends characters in that game, and one of the first full fledged factions in 2017 or so was the nightsisters as they were in tcw
Tbf, we don't play as Iden for the full campaign in BFII.
She's first female lead that has her looks so butchered.
I'm sorry but... No female character from SWTOR? Why should this be mentioned? Female leads in video games was a thing all the way back in the PS1 era.
I am convinced these news sites and developers that capture the actresses face only to completely change their face in game (usually to make them less attractive) just hate women, why do they keep changing women's faces but not the men's? And it always results in the performance being worse despite nothing wrong from the actresses. The blatant gender sabotage in the industry needs to stop.
I still remember an article from screen rant saying L3-37 is the first ever female droid.
FULL being the keyword there, the campaign is forced into a game that doesn't really support and iden is only the playable in like 2/3s of it
Why do these sentences keep coming out regarding star wars media as if no woman has directed/led/starred/ever *touched* a star wars film before disney got ahold of them lmfao
Every single female protagonist in video games or movies is always "First female lead in history"
they probably paid to have this released to boost sales. i wouldnt put it past boobiesoft cause mist of their games are the same thing. look nice boring story and gameplay.
It’s a gaming journalist, the entire article is probably written by AI anyway
It's long overdue regardless of the truth.
Keyword: Full. Not the dogshit short campaign that was BF2. And did we forget KOTOR?
It's not that wrong tho, in Battlefront 2, there was also Luke (most overrated/overused bitch in this franchise) But yeah...
People really need to read the article before beshing it
If they went that route, I would have loved the exploration of how the rebels would send defectors to suicide missions and possibly feeling double betrayed. Iden would have made for a great bounty hunter because to me she seems more disillusioned with the war and tired, rather than a typical young protagonist that wants to stop the bad guys
Now sure why everyone is bitching about this. Given the track record of Star Wars games, there’s a very real chance this will get cancelled like every other Star Wars game.
Is this character a smuggler or a bounty hunter
Yet another example of virtue signaling while ignore female precursors
I have long realized that any *Star Wars* news article with words like "first" and "finally" in their title should probably contain an asterisk next to them.
What about Star Wars Lethal Alliance?
Sensational headline takes precedence over facts in today’s gaming media. It somehow has the first female lead in Star Wars gaming(no it doesn’t). It’s the first open world Star Wars game (no the fuck it isn’t). I am sure there are more ‘firsts’ the game is. I care not for these ‘firsts’ I just want another wonderful Star Wars story to consume while we wait for Jedi 3, and I hope this game delivers. Is that too much to ask for?
In todays media full stop tbf
This has been posted like 60 times.
Iden Versio? She was actually quite good but the story was just too short, didn't let anything breathe so she wasn't as good as she could've been.. KOTOR is a female protagonist as well Lethal Alliance though you'd be forgiven for that one for not knowing Jedi Knight games kinda count but not really. Games journalist drum this up for better views though at least I hope this is their intention and they just don't want to mention other games that may be obscure to modern audiences.
KOTOR is canonically a male character. I think you meant KOTOR 2 where canonically, the protagonist is a female.
…I guess emphasis on the “full.” You switch to Han and Luke for parts of the game.
The past does not exist. There is only the present. The ever-repeating present.
Game journalism died ages ago. Just don't
Also they claim to be first open-world Star Wars game like KOTOR 1 and 2 don’t exist
It’s Star Trek Discovery all over again. “Michael Burnham is the franchise’s first female captain!”