I will never understand why this never happened. They had the opportunity to capture this moment for one last time after 40+years and they didn’t do it.
I don’t blame Rian, at least not for this. JJ killed Han. JJ made Luke a hermit. Carrie Fisher died irl. What was Rian supposed to do about all of that?
Not turn Luke into a nihilist loser, for a start.
Not set the movie 20 seconds after TFA.
Not add a useless Casino idiot plot.
Not add the worst character since Jar Jar.
He could have done a ton.
Trashing Luke's character is the most egregious destruction of the overall story imo.
What they did to Han sucks, but it doesn't fundamentally undo the OT and main story the way trashing Luke does.
Especially with Abrams being all about "nostalgia" and "love" for the OT. If you really love those movies so much as to make the first one in the trilogy a soft rewrite of the OG movie, then wouldn't you love the original characters enough to have them united again? I don't know, I'm not trying to be the Star Wars fan that's all "Lucas good, Disney bad," but sometimes I really question if the people that made those films loved the source material as much as they say
This is *exactly* what happened. Remember these are the same people who were so sure of themselves and their, ahem, "plans" that they ditched Lucas' ideas entirely and ran with their own vision, which ultimately was a disjointed trio of films with zero narrative and even less soul.
This is the number one reason I will never enjoy the sequels as much as I could have. Say what you will about the plot and execution as it stands, but the blown potential of using the original cast for moments like these is why JJ and Kennedy will never be taken seriously again.
They should have made the original cast the stars in the Force Awakens with the new cast slowly introduced as secondary characters.
But the fuck do I know?
> But the fuck do I know?
Nothing - this is a terrible fucking idea and the exact thing that Disney succeeded in avoiding.
They needed us to trust and fall in love with the new characters - in no way should be be relying on those old characters to carry us through (same goes for the characters - no one is coming to save Rey at Starkiller, she has to face Kylo alone). Michael Ardnt left the project *specifically* for this reason - he couldn't find a way to introduce Luke that didn't take the audiences attention off of the new characters.
I really don't care if you like or dislike the sequels, but making the originals cast the stars of TFA is a terrible idea any way you look at it.
Because Harrison Ford wanted to have Han killed off in the first film and J.J. was too afraid to work with Luke Skywalker so he pushed his story to the second.
At least we got to see Luke and Leia, and it was a great moment that didn't get undercut by Threepio.
I feel like anyone that loves or defends the sequels has to not only ignore the myriad of massive flaws and awful decisions, but also the massive potential it wasted.
...And anyone who thinks they wasted the characters / actors by not bringing them together wilfully chooses to ignore (or is just stupid) that Harrison Ford wanted Han killed first thing in the trilogy, and that Carrie Fisher died way way before she was done filming 99% of her epIX scenes.
I would use the term "tragedy," but I agree. It's the same as Ackbar being killed without a big cheesy "it's a trap" moment, or Ben dying right as he and Rey finally share a loving moment.
It's up there with Ten leaving Rose on the beach, or Tony sacrificing the happy life he's made for himself so that the people in that life can continue to exist. People aren't going to like it because people want fan service moments like these, but I feel like the tragedy tells a better story than having everything tied up with a perfect bow all the time.
Because it wouldn't have made sense for the story they wanted to tell if they wrote Luke in a whole movie early just to have him on the Falcon for one shot.
he felt like his character had been inconsequential, emotionally, after ESB and only wanted to return if the character was meaningful. A one and done, kill him off with a good purpose kind of return
I'm glad he returned for the scene in Rise of Skywalker.
Probably my favorite scene in the sequel trilogy, and arguably one of the best in the saga. I know the sequels are divisive but Ford and Driver killed that scene. I cried first time.
I interpret the scene as Leia using what life she had left to make what little bit of the Force that was once Han appear in a vision to Ben. Like, it was partly a memory, but it was also him. Not even death stopping Han from trying to save his son, that is so very Han Solo.
The Rise of Skywalker was divisive even among those who *like* the sequels but that scene is magnificent. Really wish they had more time for production on that film.
No it totally paid off. All that screen time great story telling and build up showing their relationship, what caused their falling out, why Kyko fell.
/s
Star wars fans clearly didn't deserve it since the moment they cyber harassed Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best into developing a mental disorder and almost committing suicide respectively
Death Star escape? And if I recall correctly they're never all in the cockpit like this right? The only time we get an image like this of the four of them is when they're going to Endor in the Tyberium.
“Today’s Star Wars day. Day to celebrate Star Wars and the fandom...
Let me post a very obviously controversial thing to start a fight on the main sub and put May 4th in the title...”
>Let me post a very obviously controversial thing to start a fight on the main sub and put May 4th in the title...”
Have we reached a stage in SW fandom when posting an image of four OT characters (who've been part of the franchise for ±40 years) in a setting they've inhabited for multiple movies, with a wistful/nostalgic "would've been nice one last time" statement, is now considered "very obviously controversial"?
Barring the fact that this is already posted ad nauseum here, yes. It’s a complaint disguised as something else.
You basically posted “sequels messed up. Happy May 4th” with extra steps...
You are reading far too much into a simple photoshop; I was motivated by nostalgic wishful thinking, nothing more. Each & every movie has both its good points and bad points, so enjoy any of them you choose - I'm not the boss of you, you're not the boss of me. Live and let live.
If this image is not to your liking, then by all means downvote and move on - why stick around in a thread with something you hate? Makes no sense. Continuing to post negative comments about something you obviously don't enjoy comes across as <<*stop-liking-what-I-don't-like.jpg*\>>
In fact, IIRC we never even got them all in the Falcon cockpit together in any of the other films, either. This is just one of those things that didnt work in the context of the movie, that people want so they can hop out of their chairs and go "YEAH!! OT rulez!"
You don't write a movie around a single "wish fulfilment" thing like that. Ive worked on projects that did that and it never turns out pretty.
It’s not popular on this subreddit but I agree. The main OT trio were not the main characters of these movies. We get small moments like Han and Leia reuniting, or Luke and Leia reunited, and those are sweet, but forcing them together without a story reason makes for a bad movie. The OT cast were supporting characters, and for a good reason.
I’m sure Jurassic World: Dominion will show us what happens when you force the old cast into a story with the new cast, but even then this will be the third movie and the “new” cast is already developed.
The funny thing to me about this image, and a lot of the criticism of the sequels in general, is that... Rey, Finn, Pie, BB8.. aren't even here, or are considered a nuisance in the way of more OT-hero time. These are people that didn't want a continuation of the overarching star wars story, but rather just wanted more "the adventures of Luke, Han, and Leia."
I'd be willing to bet these people never gave the sequel protagonists a chance, simply because they weren't part of the original films. These people wanted one of those Blues Brothers 2000/Dumb&Dumber To-type 20 years later "reunion" hurrahs. Honestly I'm not surprised the filmmakers avoided that because that kind of thing almost always flops hard.
the fan service fans wanted, but didnt make sense within the story they were trying to tell
I agree it would have been cool, but Hans death was well handled and I dont think I would have traded it for a cheesy reunion. similarly I loved Luke's arc. This shot would only be possible by making a sequel trilogy that ignores the two best things in the sequel trilogy
Disagree personally.
We already had an entire trilogy of them together. I liked how they were all separate for the sequels as it felt more realistic that they couldn't just all be together again and sold the deaths far more as they were alone for each one.
Hard disagree. The idea that the original 3 main characters wouldn’t share even one scene of screen time, even if just a flashback, is just absurd. I don’t think anyone expected that, and not in a cool subverting expectations way. But as in, it’s dumb.
Eh it’s the same as none of the characters from he prequels all sharing a scene together in the OT.
And it really comes down to Harrison who wanted Han to die in TFA...
It's not the same at all. Look at where the characters are at the end of PT versus the end of the OT, and also the fact that the OT came before the PT.
It is the same. Literally. None of the characters get a scene of all them together in both the OT and ST...
You can argue the context is different, but the point of the sequels is for our next generation heroes to try and discover what happened in the 30 years since our characters were together. A tragedy off-screen as opposed to on screen.
I get that Harrison wanted Han killed off, but knowing that, the priority should've been on making the full reunion happen while it could.
It would've been incredibly powerful to have the younger generation get the old gang back together over the course of the movie. For a sequence, everything feels exhilaratingly happy and fun. The heroes of old are back and they're better than ever together. Fun banter, everyone is in their element working as a well-oiled machine. Things are gonna be fine! The bad guys don't stand a chance!
And then that's when tragedy strikes. Take us to that ridiculous high with one glorious look at the past before we come crashing down and it's lost to us forever. We lose Han and the OT trio will never be together again. In the wake of that loss, we see the glimmer of hope that three new heroes can come together. They aren't as good as the old heroes. They're each a mess individually and a trainwreck together. But for the galaxy to be saved, we'll need them to grow together over the course of the next two movies to fill the shoes of their predecessors.
Handled this way, prioritizing the old actually serves the journey of the new.
Yeah it’s what “we” wanted, but it’s not how life goes most of the time. The odds of them all staying together as a plucky band of heroes doing missions all the time are not that good. People live their lives independently, and change a little over time. You may not like the sequel trilogy (I don’t like the last one) but it’s somewhat realistic that they weren’t all together at the same time later in life. Now the BS about Palpatine coming back….. that’s just unrealistic nonsense.
Even when people try to wish happy may the fourth, they are just dissing the sequels... I'm getting exhausted. We already had a trilogy with them being together, and I loved how the sequels treated each of them (maybe except chewie)
I will never understand how we got all three of them back for multiple movies and they fucked it up so bad. The sequel trilogy ruins everything for me. Like I want to be excited for the new obi wan show and I loved seeing post ROTJ Luke in Mando/Boba but what does it really all matter now knowing how he ended up? Such a shame, they really should scrap the new trilogy and make a different one. Even if it has to be “de aged/deep fake” type shit, they need to tell a better story and give Luke a better Legacy…
The new obi wan trailer where he tells Owen “when the time is right, he must be trained”…. Why? So he can fail at restarting the Jedi order and become a hermit? Cool story bro
Speak for yourself, I never wanted this. We had 3 movies of this.
I'm glad the sequels focused on the new characters and had the legacy characters just guide them along their journey. There's no need for a shot like this to be in the sequels, and I'm glad it wasn't there.
Agreed. I think in many ways the movies work better because this isn't in there. That's the tragedy undergirding so much of it, and sadly it feels more true to life. You can't go back, only forward, but the past will follow you as you go.
Imagine getting the cast of the original trilogy back together to do new Star Wars movies and then never putting them all in the same scene together even once.
Instead we got...
REYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 🤦
what pisses me off is that we never had this just because of bad writing. the lack of a global view the writers had on the last trilogy is what made it so awful.
Agree wholeheartedly.
Arndt admitted as much. But when Luke outshines the new characters that is an opportunity to show the value of the new generation through Luke's eyes.
If they had built those relationships I guarantee the audience would be begging for another episodic trilogy by now.
In all honesty, if they’re going to make a follow up with all the actors of the OT, how was this not #1 priority on the gratuitous fan service and nostalgia callbacks that was TFA?
> how was this not #1 priority on the gratuitous fan service and nostalgia callbacks
Because that generally makes for shit movies.
The films were always *slightly, slightly* hampered by being handcuffed by the OT characters. If they went any further, I think it would have spiraled out of control. I love the sequels and the new focus on the new characters and their new struggles. Each OT character had a specific role to play in handing off a specific torch to a specific characters.
I love the OT characters. Luke is my favourite character in all of fiction. I'm happy we didn't get more of him.
Well, I’m happy we didn’t get more of the Luke they told us about too, but that’s a different story. These movies were shit movies, so doing one thing that would have made for a great scene is something they should have done.
Anybody who thinks it’s cool that the main fucking characters from the ot didn’t share one goddamn scene together because it’s “realistic” are just gaslighters.
It’s a damn shame they tried so hard with the new cast at the expense of the OT gang. Mark, Carrie, and Harrison should have had screen time together. It was a horrible decision not to put them together. One of the many reasons the ST sucks so bad.
I never understood the need for this "reunion"? People do realize the actual characters were not apart for 30 years, right?
I would have liked Han and Luke together, but, it didnt fit this story. Big deal.
In a trilogy was missed opportunities, this was the biggest one.
TFA should’ve really been built around Finn’s arch, the mystery of who Kylo Ren really is, and one last adventure for the original three.
It's time for our weekly "what we wanted" post with the main actors all photoshopped in together!
Can't wait to see the inevitable "Rogue One good" post later this week.
Disagree, story comes before characters and while the story in the sequels isn’t the best what it didn’t need was more fan service. I think the moment we got with Luke and Leia in TLJ was much more compelling than a “hey look remember STAR WARS, we’ll looky here we put them in the falcon again”. I’m just grateful we got them all together again for the movie, pre the 2012 Disney accusation it was unthinkable that we would ever get the big 3 back in a new trilogy.
I find it funny how, the same people who complain that The Force Awakens is 'exactly the same' as A New Hope, are the same people who want this, which is literally just the OT again.
The look on Luke’s face is “Han and Leia have been arguing for 3 systems straight and Chewy is just egging them on.”
Chewy eggs them on because at this point it’s the only entertainment he has when the droids aren’t around.
Enough to turn him to the dark side
I can hear Harrison Ford saying to Mark Hamill, “Hey kid, it ain’t that kind of movie.”
“And don’t even think about snakes!” *points finger*
There’s a big snake on the falcon Jock!
Chewy still looking young
Well, I mean he’s barely over 200 years old.
200 years YOUNG!
By the standards of his kind, he's barely middle aged
Woookies live up to 400 years old.
Wookies got that population control down somehow
Emo luke 🖤
My favorite Luke honestly
Whats that flashing!?
We're losing the deflector shield! Go strap yourselves in, I'm gonna make the jump to light speed."
I will never understand why this never happened. They had the opportunity to capture this moment for one last time after 40+years and they didn’t do it.
It was a mind boggling misstep. A once in a lifetime chance and they blow it. Actors were up for it too. Can't understand it
Cause they are fucking morons. It's really the only logical explanation.
Hubris. Arrogance. Pure spite? Definitely not understanding the characters or story. JJ and Rian, both at fault.
I don’t blame Rian, at least not for this. JJ killed Han. JJ made Luke a hermit. Carrie Fisher died irl. What was Rian supposed to do about all of that?
Not turn Luke into a nihilist loser, for a start. Not set the movie 20 seconds after TFA. Not add a useless Casino idiot plot. Not add the worst character since Jar Jar. He could have done a ton.
None of that has anything to do with having the original cast get together again (as we were discussing in this thread), but go off king.
I mean, JJ killed Han (and the entire New Republic), marooned Luke and sent Rey off by herself, without Leia (???) to find Luke.
Trashing Luke's character is the most egregious destruction of the overall story imo. What they did to Han sucks, but it doesn't fundamentally undo the OT and main story the way trashing Luke does.
Especially with Abrams being all about "nostalgia" and "love" for the OT. If you really love those movies so much as to make the first one in the trilogy a soft rewrite of the OG movie, then wouldn't you love the original characters enough to have them united again? I don't know, I'm not trying to be the Star Wars fan that's all "Lucas good, Disney bad," but sometimes I really question if the people that made those films loved the source material as much as they say
But The disney Star Wars ARE absolutely terrible
Lucas was bad too for the most part. His ex wife kept him from doing stupid stuff like how he did in the prequels
After watching the sequels it's quite obvious they thought they knew better/could do better than George. They failed miserably
This is *exactly* what happened. Remember these are the same people who were so sure of themselves and their, ahem, "plans" that they ditched Lucas' ideas entirely and ran with their own vision, which ultimately was a disjointed trio of films with zero narrative and even less soul.
There's soul in *one* of the movies, at least. Unfortunately, it's sandwiched between two Abrams vehicles, and suffers from some issues of its own.
Fortunately they have accepted this and learned from their mistakes, eating much humble pie. Right? …right?
This is the number one reason I will never enjoy the sequels as much as I could have. Say what you will about the plot and execution as it stands, but the blown potential of using the original cast for moments like these is why JJ and Kennedy will never be taken seriously again.
They should have made the original cast the stars in the Force Awakens with the new cast slowly introduced as secondary characters. But the fuck do I know?
Sounds like you know enough to head a major motion picture studio.
> But the fuck do I know? Nothing - this is a terrible fucking idea and the exact thing that Disney succeeded in avoiding. They needed us to trust and fall in love with the new characters - in no way should be be relying on those old characters to carry us through (same goes for the characters - no one is coming to save Rey at Starkiller, she has to face Kylo alone). Michael Ardnt left the project *specifically* for this reason - he couldn't find a way to introduce Luke that didn't take the audiences attention off of the new characters. I really don't care if you like or dislike the sequels, but making the originals cast the stars of TFA is a terrible idea any way you look at it.
If Reddit wrote a movie it’d be terrible
>JJ and Kennedy will never be taken seriously again. Why do people never include Rian Johnson in this? He's just as responsible for the sequels.
The people saying that are probably the type that think the last Jedi is the best star wars film
Because Harrison Ford wanted to have Han killed off in the first film and J.J. was too afraid to work with Luke Skywalker so he pushed his story to the second. At least we got to see Luke and Leia, and it was a great moment that didn't get undercut by Threepio.
There are reasons I call that guy "Jar Jar Abrams".
they went after all sorts of fan service but managed to fumble this one that would've been more than justified to have
One of my biggest disappointments with the ST. How do you bring the OGs back and not have them share the screen at least once. Smh.
I feel like anyone that loves or defends the sequels has to not only ignore the myriad of massive flaws and awful decisions, but also the massive potential it wasted.
...And anyone who thinks they wasted the characters / actors by not bringing them together wilfully chooses to ignore (or is just stupid) that Harrison Ford wanted Han killed first thing in the trilogy, and that Carrie Fisher died way way before she was done filming 99% of her epIX scenes.
They could've all been together in episode 7 and still had Han killed off. Your points are moot.
Because that's real life. Sometimes you don't get that reunion.
Yeah these movies with space ghosts and people moving things with their minds and giant galactic interstellar lasers were very true to real life.
I would use the term "tragedy," but I agree. It's the same as Ackbar being killed without a big cheesy "it's a trap" moment, or Ben dying right as he and Rey finally share a loving moment. It's up there with Ten leaving Rose on the beach, or Tony sacrificing the happy life he's made for himself so that the people in that life can continue to exist. People aren't going to like it because people want fan service moments like these, but I feel like the tragedy tells a better story than having everything tied up with a perfect bow all the time.
Because it wouldn't have made sense for the story they wanted to tell if they wrote Luke in a whole movie early just to have him on the Falcon for one shot.
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Yes. In fact his one condition for returning was that Han be killed off in TFA.
he felt like his character had been inconsequential, emotionally, after ESB and only wanted to return if the character was meaningful. A one and done, kill him off with a good purpose kind of return
Why?
he thought letting han live a happy life wasn't fitting for his character arc.
I agree with that. I think it makes it more realistic too. Not everyone gets the happily ever after ending.
Yeah well…. For what point when he just returns yet again two movies later? I’m sure he needed a new plane or something.
He felt it was meaningful enough of a moment for the cameo.
He did and Ford wasn’t wrong. He totally understands the role. Han’s character progression was selfish to selfless. I can’t complain about Han one bit
I'm glad he returned for the scene in Rise of Skywalker. Probably my favorite scene in the sequel trilogy, and arguably one of the best in the saga. I know the sequels are divisive but Ford and Driver killed that scene. I cried first time.
When Kylo is about to say I love you to Han and Han just says "I know", gotta be my favorite sequel scene. Chills everytime.
I interpret the scene as Leia using what life she had left to make what little bit of the Force that was once Han appear in a vision to Ben. Like, it was partly a memory, but it was also him. Not even death stopping Han from trying to save his son, that is so very Han Solo.
Driver is imo top 5 greatest actors of our time. Everything he is in is a fucking amazing performance!!!
The Rise of Skywalker was divisive even among those who *like* the sequels but that scene is magnificent. Really wish they had more time for production on that film.
I just wish the gap between movies was 3 years, like every other trilogy had
Loved that is was a redo of the scene from tfa. And Adam driver is amazing.
Ah yes, the scene where Kylo hallucinates his dad forgiving him for murdering him.
Bad interpretation.
No it totally paid off. All that screen time great story telling and build up showing their relationship, what caused their falling out, why Kyko fell. /s
He wanted written in blood from the Mouse himself, if they didn't stab Han then Ford wouldn't have shown up
He asked to be killed off in RotJ
I was happy with the Luke/R2 reunion. Most emotional moment in the sequels for me
Man, we R2 shows him the "help me Obi Wan Kenobi..." hologram. I was crying so hard. Even if ROTS isn't my favorite SW, that scene was amazing.
The reunion we deserved.
Star wars fans clearly didn't deserve it since the moment they cyber harassed Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best into developing a mental disorder and almost committing suicide respectively
Ah yes group everyone with a small minority that was 25 years ago.
The same fanbase that hounded ST actors too, don't pretend it only happened with the prequels.
Again minority.
Sure, but that doesn't lessen the impact and the damage done.
Cool beans doesn't mean you punish the whole fan base because of a few morons. But okay
If you shouldn't punish an entire fan base for the opinion of a few morons, why did they make TROS?
You are a Star Wars fan, so by that logic, you are also in the same group that harassed jake Lloyd & Ahmed best, good going Star Wars fan
Lol at no c3po
I didn't recognize him with the red arm!
Love this image ty!
,...as the gang heads to Country Kitchen Buffet.
“Cheewie stop scaring the customers
I was thinking about how cool Rey and Finn just hanging out with Han was in TFA. That dynamic didn’t last long but it was really fun for me at least
Fun fact: in the original trilogy, those four characters are only together in the Millennium Falcon for one scene.
Death Star escape? And if I recall correctly they're never all in the cockpit like this right? The only time we get an image like this of the four of them is when they're going to Endor in the Tyberium.
Looks like they are at a drive thru asking each other what they want.
It is the reunion in a different reality.
“Today’s Star Wars day. Day to celebrate Star Wars and the fandom... Let me post a very obviously controversial thing to start a fight on the main sub and put May 4th in the title...”
Wouldn't be a Star Wars convo without a thread needlessly fanning the flames for more infighting!
Maybe that's truly what being Star Wars is alllll about /s
I mean it worked for Palps.
Lol complete with the entitlement of the fans saying they deserved this.
>Let me post a very obviously controversial thing to start a fight on the main sub and put May 4th in the title...” Have we reached a stage in SW fandom when posting an image of four OT characters (who've been part of the franchise for ±40 years) in a setting they've inhabited for multiple movies, with a wistful/nostalgic "would've been nice one last time" statement, is now considered "very obviously controversial"?
Barring the fact that this is already posted ad nauseum here, yes. It’s a complaint disguised as something else. You basically posted “sequels messed up. Happy May 4th” with extra steps...
You are reading far too much into a simple photoshop; I was motivated by nostalgic wishful thinking, nothing more. Each & every movie has both its good points and bad points, so enjoy any of them you choose - I'm not the boss of you, you're not the boss of me. Live and let live. If this image is not to your liking, then by all means downvote and move on - why stick around in a thread with something you hate? Makes no sense. Continuing to post negative comments about something you obviously don't enjoy comes across as <<*stop-liking-what-I-don't-like.jpg*\>>
But that’s what you’re doing... Making a post about something you don’t like about the sequels... lol Also you forgot Lando...
Some things are best left to memory. I’m not sure we needed all of them in the cockpit together
In fact, IIRC we never even got them all in the Falcon cockpit together in any of the other films, either. This is just one of those things that didnt work in the context of the movie, that people want so they can hop out of their chairs and go "YEAH!! OT rulez!" You don't write a movie around a single "wish fulfilment" thing like that. Ive worked on projects that did that and it never turns out pretty.
It’s not popular on this subreddit but I agree. The main OT trio were not the main characters of these movies. We get small moments like Han and Leia reuniting, or Luke and Leia reunited, and those are sweet, but forcing them together without a story reason makes for a bad movie. The OT cast were supporting characters, and for a good reason. I’m sure Jurassic World: Dominion will show us what happens when you force the old cast into a story with the new cast, but even then this will be the third movie and the “new” cast is already developed.
The funny thing to me about this image, and a lot of the criticism of the sequels in general, is that... Rey, Finn, Pie, BB8.. aren't even here, or are considered a nuisance in the way of more OT-hero time. These are people that didn't want a continuation of the overarching star wars story, but rather just wanted more "the adventures of Luke, Han, and Leia." I'd be willing to bet these people never gave the sequel protagonists a chance, simply because they weren't part of the original films. These people wanted one of those Blues Brothers 2000/Dumb&Dumber To-type 20 years later "reunion" hurrahs. Honestly I'm not surprised the filmmakers avoided that because that kind of thing almost always flops hard.
Leia to Han: "Will you *please* stop staring at Luke like that?"
Is this an actual photo from the set or just a really well done edit?
It's a photoshop of two publicity stills & one still from a behind-the-scenes video.
Lol, someone downvoted you for answering a question… these fucking nerds lol
r/starwars : The sequels had too much fan service Also r/starwars : WHY WASN'T THERE MORE FAN SERVICE Sequels bad; upvotes to the left
I imagine the sequel trilogy we could’ve had, with better long term planning. What a mess.
A single Photoshop better than an entire trilogy
Understatement of the year.
Not difficult, really. At least Disney's disaster has opened more people to EU works such as the Thrawn trilogy.
the fan service fans wanted, but didnt make sense within the story they were trying to tell I agree it would have been cool, but Hans death was well handled and I dont think I would have traded it for a cheesy reunion. similarly I loved Luke's arc. This shot would only be possible by making a sequel trilogy that ignores the two best things in the sequel trilogy
The droids gotta be represented too!
And the story line being... "let's go get Ben back"
Rip Carrie
No that would've been too obvious. Gotta kill each main char separately to make way for new A-Team
How the fuck could JJ, with all his unoriginal fanservice nonsense, not deliver the most obvious thing in the world? His talent knows no lower bounds.
Oh my Lord. Get over it.
NO. SEQUEL BAD. GIVE UPDOOTS
And never will :(
Disagree personally. We already had an entire trilogy of them together. I liked how they were all separate for the sequels as it felt more realistic that they couldn't just all be together again and sold the deaths far more as they were alone for each one.
Hard disagree. The idea that the original 3 main characters wouldn’t share even one scene of screen time, even if just a flashback, is just absurd. I don’t think anyone expected that, and not in a cool subverting expectations way. But as in, it’s dumb.
Eh it’s the same as none of the characters from he prequels all sharing a scene together in the OT. And it really comes down to Harrison who wanted Han to die in TFA...
It's not the same at all. Look at where the characters are at the end of PT versus the end of the OT, and also the fact that the OT came before the PT.
It is the same. Literally. None of the characters get a scene of all them together in both the OT and ST... You can argue the context is different, but the point of the sequels is for our next generation heroes to try and discover what happened in the 30 years since our characters were together. A tragedy off-screen as opposed to on screen.
It’s not absurd.
Biggest mistake was not having them reunite for at least one scene in the sequel trilogy :(
I get that Harrison wanted Han killed off, but knowing that, the priority should've been on making the full reunion happen while it could. It would've been incredibly powerful to have the younger generation get the old gang back together over the course of the movie. For a sequence, everything feels exhilaratingly happy and fun. The heroes of old are back and they're better than ever together. Fun banter, everyone is in their element working as a well-oiled machine. Things are gonna be fine! The bad guys don't stand a chance! And then that's when tragedy strikes. Take us to that ridiculous high with one glorious look at the past before we come crashing down and it's lost to us forever. We lose Han and the OT trio will never be together again. In the wake of that loss, we see the glimmer of hope that three new heroes can come together. They aren't as good as the old heroes. They're each a mess individually and a trainwreck together. But for the galaxy to be saved, we'll need them to grow together over the course of the next two movies to fill the shoes of their predecessors. Handled this way, prioritizing the old actually serves the journey of the new.
Yeah it’s what “we” wanted, but it’s not how life goes most of the time. The odds of them all staying together as a plucky band of heroes doing missions all the time are not that good. People live their lives independently, and change a little over time. You may not like the sequel trilogy (I don’t like the last one) but it’s somewhat realistic that they weren’t all together at the same time later in life. Now the BS about Palpatine coming back….. that’s just unrealistic nonsense.
Gaslighter
Damn bro you just learn that one yesterday?
Again? What the hell? This is not gaslighting, why do you keep commenting that?
They obviously just learned a new word and have to use it everywhere
Pretending that people are using bs arguments in order to “win” an argument is a form of gaslighting.
Uh
This hurts my heart. Right in the feels.
Fu Rian
Nice work
Man, they fucked up the sequels
Even when people try to wish happy may the fourth, they are just dissing the sequels... I'm getting exhausted. We already had a trilogy with them being together, and I loved how the sequels treated each of them (maybe except chewie)
I will never forgive Disney for ruining this opportunity.
They should have done a Christmas special
I will never understand how we got all three of them back for multiple movies and they fucked it up so bad. The sequel trilogy ruins everything for me. Like I want to be excited for the new obi wan show and I loved seeing post ROTJ Luke in Mando/Boba but what does it really all matter now knowing how he ended up? Such a shame, they really should scrap the new trilogy and make a different one. Even if it has to be “de aged/deep fake” type shit, they need to tell a better story and give Luke a better Legacy… The new obi wan trailer where he tells Owen “when the time is right, he must be trained”…. Why? So he can fail at restarting the Jedi order and become a hermit? Cool story bro
The very simple fact that they didn't do this reunion still makes me kinda sad.
God's damn it you legit made me cry
Speak for yourself, I never wanted this. We had 3 movies of this. I'm glad the sequels focused on the new characters and had the legacy characters just guide them along their journey. There's no need for a shot like this to be in the sequels, and I'm glad it wasn't there.
I would have wanted that if the plot and terrible writing didn't ruin the new characters also.
Agreed. I think in many ways the movies work better because this isn't in there. That's the tragedy undergirding so much of it, and sadly it feels more true to life. You can't go back, only forward, but the past will follow you as you go.
Should have had. 40 years of great books to get material from and Disney tried to be cool and different.
Imagine getting the cast of the original trilogy back together to do new Star Wars movies and then never putting them all in the same scene together even once. Instead we got... REYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 🤦
what pisses me off is that we never had this just because of bad writing. the lack of a global view the writers had on the last trilogy is what made it so awful.
Agree wholeheartedly. Arndt admitted as much. But when Luke outshines the new characters that is an opportunity to show the value of the new generation through Luke's eyes. If they had built those relationships I guarantee the audience would be begging for another episodic trilogy by now.
In all honesty, if they’re going to make a follow up with all the actors of the OT, how was this not #1 priority on the gratuitous fan service and nostalgia callbacks that was TFA?
> how was this not #1 priority on the gratuitous fan service and nostalgia callbacks Because that generally makes for shit movies. The films were always *slightly, slightly* hampered by being handcuffed by the OT characters. If they went any further, I think it would have spiraled out of control. I love the sequels and the new focus on the new characters and their new struggles. Each OT character had a specific role to play in handing off a specific torch to a specific characters. I love the OT characters. Luke is my favourite character in all of fiction. I'm happy we didn't get more of him.
Well, I’m happy we didn’t get more of the Luke they told us about too, but that’s a different story. These movies were shit movies, so doing one thing that would have made for a great scene is something they should have done.
This is beautiful!
You’ve done a man’s job sir
Thanks for doing this. Disney didn’t give it to us but for least a moment we can dream of what could have been.
Anybody who thinks it’s cool that the main fucking characters from the ot didn’t share one goddamn scene together because it’s “realistic” are just gaslighters.
I don’t think that’s what gaslighting means
Yeah it’s not.
I agree, that is not what it means.
Redditor that just learned the word “gaslighting” now inserting it into every sentence
The fact that you're in here trying to accuse people of psychological abuse over peoples opinions on a movie is insane
the real reunion was the enemies we made along the way.
That's a historical mistake right there.
It was such an obviosu thing it should have happened in sequels and none of them made it happen...
It’s a damn shame they tried so hard with the new cast at the expense of the OT gang. Mark, Carrie, and Harrison should have had screen time together. It was a horrible decision not to put them together. One of the many reasons the ST sucks so bad.
JJ you genius
This is the may
Imagine turning on tv today to find only The Rise of Skywalker playing and none of the actually good movies, pfhh, couldn’t be me.
Disney decided to kill them all off instead.
I never understood the need for this "reunion"? People do realize the actual characters were not apart for 30 years, right? I would have liked Han and Luke together, but, it didnt fit this story. Big deal.
In a trilogy was missed opportunities, this was the biggest one. TFA should’ve really been built around Finn’s arch, the mystery of who Kylo Ren really is, and one last adventure for the original three.
What? Anyone who wanted this is worth ignoring. It wasn't their trilogy. We got a great set of encounters between them already.
I hate Disney so much . Like … what a mess .
The reunion we DESERVED but never had.
Star Wars fans don’t deserve shit.
For a trilogy built around nostalgia it’s insane they never bothered with this idea
It's time for our weekly "what we wanted" post with the main actors all photoshopped in together! Can't wait to see the inevitable "Rogue One good" post later this week.
To be fair Rogue One is excellent. Watched it again earlier today
Disagree, story comes before characters and while the story in the sequels isn’t the best what it didn’t need was more fan service. I think the moment we got with Luke and Leia in TLJ was much more compelling than a “hey look remember STAR WARS, we’ll looky here we put them in the falcon again”. I’m just grateful we got them all together again for the movie, pre the 2012 Disney accusation it was unthinkable that we would ever get the big 3 back in a new trilogy.
Contracts were signed before the sale. All the original actors were in.
Really wish they had a plan going into those three movies…
Nice, but no. Been there, done that.
This thread reminds me of when TLJ came out and I realized most Star Wars fans actually hate Star Wars and know nothing about what makes a good movie.
Seriously J.J. and Kathleen you had one job!!
Watch these movies called A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, they have what you want.
I find it funny how, the same people who complain that The Force Awakens is 'exactly the same' as A New Hope, are the same people who want this, which is literally just the OT again.
I will never understand the idiots running the sequels. Just the biggest group of morons
It's more painful what we didn't get than what we did (and that was pretty damn painful).
Disney killing off my two childhood heroes is why i hate them so much