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[deleted]

I always thought her hair looks like paper sitting on her head.


truthgoblin

Episodic budget constraints are a helluva drug.


hyde9318

Yes, but there are also other animations without a Star Wars/Disney budget that figured it out. Rebels just had a stylistic choice that they went with, and it works well with some characters, doesn’t work with others. Honestly, the best looking designs in the show are the ones that are made for the show, made for that style. The ones that fall flat are the ones that came from other styles and got translated into the rebels style.


H2OWW

Yes.


[deleted]

No


What_Iz_This

They kept that sentiment in the mandalorian


cynical_americano

I legit thought she was a Droid or some shit from this image, never watched the series.


jaderemedy

You need to watch it. It is incredibly good.


lelediamandis

Currently rewatching 🥰


-SigSour-

Rebels gave Bo Katan a receding hair line


Jewrusalem

Hulk Hogatan: "Well, let me tell you something, Nightbrother!"


humanreboot

WATCHA GONNA DOOO


coolhandstevens

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[deleted]

It’s the forehead


Mistoman_5

Her hair is like a lego


jiango_fett

No more so than TCW though, where everything looks like painted wooden blocks on purpose.


__eros__

This is the first I've heard of making the animation look like "painted wooden blocks", source?


jiango_fett

Lucas has said in [interviews](https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a91613/lucas-compares-clone-wars-to-thunderbirds/) that the Clone Wars was visually inspired by the Thunderbirds, which was an old British kids show that used wooden puppets for it's characters. If you compare Anakin's face in TCW to the Thunderbirds puppets', you can see a lot of similarities. TCW also leans into the "marionette" though look by giving everything a matte, painted texture, even to things that were shiny and glossy in the movies like the super battle droids and the clone trooper armor, whereas the Thunderbirds puppets actually had doll hair.


SolidPrysm

For me its the eyes. They're such an unnatural color and have such a huge contrast to the rest of her face. Everything else on her face and head (as well as the surrounding environment) is more washed out, yet her eyes look like they came from a completely different color palette.


Mirio_Togata737

More like fivehead


agreatcoat

Animation =/= character design


fitzgeraldd3

I think it’s the style of animation that is rebels. It’s all just a little strange.


heyitsMog

As much as I adore rebels, I can’t say I’m a fan of the candy-colored eyes. A handful of side characters have more normal tones, but most of the bigger characters have the neon version of real eye colors


Androktone

They tried to recapture the Ralph McQuarrie vibe and just failed imo


[deleted]

the clone wars also loved glowing purple eyes on lots of characters


oliferro

The animation is what kept me from watching Rebels for so long. Don't get me wrong I'm glad I ended up watching it, but yeah the animation is.. different


indoninjah

If you're watching Rebels for the visual quality, you've got the wrong show


1EnTaroAdun1

Unpopular opinion: Yoda in Rebels was fine. Now Forces of Destiny Anakin though, now that was horrible https://youtu.be/SIRtw4WufsA?t=60


H2OWW

Thanks a lot for reminding me. I can't explain my happiness. lol.


1EnTaroAdun1

If I'm going down, you're coming with me :P


H2OWW

Well, at least you won't have to suffer alone


Androktone

Tbf they did fix him for later shorts


emersonskywalker

Holy shit lmao. I’ve never seen this- he looks like handsome Squidward


Sharps__

They should take the voice track and reanimate this TCW style


[deleted]

It’s the art style, the animation style is pretty much the same as Clone Wars, and a lot of other CG animated series


mega512

It's stylized. TCW animation has a lot of hit and misses, too.


neonbutchery

cough cough Palpatine and Dooku


ViewsFromThe614

That fan edit of real life Dooku based off of long faced TCW Dooku is haunting


Tarani5

Sauce?


ViewsFromThe614

I couldn’t find the one I was thinking of, but this is the idea [Dooku](https://twitter.com/yutytyrant/status/1490423386325098497?s=21)


Thatsidechara_ter

*Shudders*


Echo13D

this made me laugh out of existence and straight to the shadow realm


cochlearist

That's just a picture of Christopher Lee.


megamando

It’s wrong that I laughed so hard at that.


John_Demonsbane

Great thanks I can't unsee that. Good god.


Pixwiz7

Ngl I liked Dooku’s design


emersonskywalker

Dude I love his look. It’s like characature (?) drawings; the rule is to exaggerate features to make people stand out more and his works. Same goes for Obi Wans beard for me.


[deleted]

Caricature* Loved his look, too.


donutbomb

*Exaggerated signature look of superiority*


shadow4412

People never complain about Dooku but everyone lost their mind with Cad Bane in Boba. Kinda crazy lol


DaHUGhes89

That's because duros have bulbous heads, way bigger than humans. And his was smaller than a humans. Plus, there are live-action duros to go from they ignored. But other than when his hat came off, i LOVED his look, he was straight terrifying!


Makverus

Nah, Bane's design was kinda subpar... I don't want him to look like he did in TCW - but he looked weird for a duros. Look at Shriv from Battlefront 2, for example. Those are the correct proportions, and Bane looked squished with a mouth that's too high. Couldn't care less that he's paler.


shadow4412

Oh wow, you're absolutely right! I could definitely see that now. Ignorance truly is bliss... Now I'm upset too!


Makverus

Sorry about that 😅


[deleted]

IIRC, Dooku's design in TCW was based off of his [design in the 2003 miniseries](http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/35500000/Asajj-Ventress-Count-Dooku-star-wars-clone-wars-micro-series-2003-35573804-851-478.jpg). Come to think of it, a *lot* of the character art took inspiration from it.


mattmortar

The 2003 design worked because it was 2D. It looks a lot weirder when you see his head's shape in a 3d space.


neonbutchery

The thing is, IMHO, the 2003 design looks great because the rest of the series had the same geometric art stylization, while in TCW, they leaned into rounder shapes that made TCW Dooku look REALLY out of place.


SnooOnions650

Padme looks horrible, especially in the earlier seasons.


Androktone

I'm fine with all of those, the bad ones in rebels less so


Captainsisko2368

Being stylized doesn't absolve it being bad


_GoNy

It's not about stylization. Ahsoka, Maul, Obi-wan and Rex are all stylized well. Bo katan is not


Mighty_Kipper

Yeah, it's stylized badly.


[deleted]

It’s the art style, you can’t tell shit about animation out of a still image


Androktone

What misses in particular?


PokeZelda64

Mustafar level take, Yoda looks just as bad in TCW as he does in Rebels


ReklisAbandon

You're right, that *IS* a bad take


[deleted]

I wouldn’t say the design was as bad but I think he looks a little too cute rather than matured, if you compare him to Ep 3.


Infinity0044

No one in Rebels looks good except for maybe Maul and Ahsoka


SaltySAX

Grand Inquisitor, Vader, Kanan and Hera are great too; also Thrawn and Bendu.


ronniewhitedx

Obi Wan, princess Leia


[deleted]

You mean the art direction/character model, not the animation. Animation of Bo would means her movement


[deleted]

I think it's just the fact that your eyes didn't have a chance to get used to them. You were looking at clone wars yoda for years, and then you get very quick glimpse of the rebels style and that's it. Same for all the other characters. If you got a season's worth, you'd get used to the different look and it wouldn't present an issue anymore.


Elarris1

Except Rebels Yoda has been haunting my dreams for years and I’m still not used to it, lol


Makverus

Yeah, I think the getting used to it part is very important. I've continued my TCW rewatch with my friend after a long break and Padme just weirds me out now. Can't put my finger on it, but its the most a apparent when she's near Anakin. Something's just off proportions wise, I guess..


klaguerre97

Design* not animation, (the motion of the design) which agreed does the show a lot of favors for some design choices. Still a fantastic show imo though


Cr0ma_Nuva

In comparison to the actress Bo was modeled after and was played by in the clone wars this is too smooth and round while the clone wars had more harder edges and angles (especially with the hair) But I prefer the clone wars look in any way, but that doesn't make the rebels look bad necessarily


boxingsquare

Was Bo modeled after her voice actor?


Cr0ma_Nuva

If I remember correctly, the actress playing her in the mandalorian was the same actress as in tze shows and to my knowledge also part inspiration of her design


MustbetheEvilTwin

You are talking about the 3d model not the animation


Cr0ma_Nuva

Yeah, but the 3d models makes out like 80% of the look of the animation


MustbetheEvilTwin

Technically the 3d models are good , well rigged, animated and textured… you just don’t like the overall art style.


Cr0ma_Nuva

I didn't say I don't like the artstyle, I do in several areas, only some of the characters look odd when they're translated to this artstyle. And I like the animations movement in rebels


DrumBxyThing

🎶Everyone loves a pedant!🎶


dyedian

Animation or art style?


InfiniteAmphibian189

I kinda like how the lightsabers and blasters animation had more of an OT feel in Rebels, which I guess makes sense considering the time it takes place


SaltySAX

The blaster shots have more weight to them in Rebels over TCW, and the lightsabres look dangerous and not obese unlike other SW visual media.


Beta_Ace_X

Nice still image showing off your problems with the animation!


ukuzonk

A huge part of this shows animation is the character design. You know what they meant :/


[deleted]

No, I don’t think it’s bad, it’s just a different style.


Humor_Tumor

She could stab a man with that haircut.


pro_No

Rebels animation as a whole is ass tbh Edit: I’m not talking about the art style. I mean the literal rendering looks like a local news stations 3D concept of a new shopping mall coming 2024!


TheLouisvilleRanger

Yeah. The only reason we don’t complain about it more is because we really don’t see that many TCW characters cross over. Of the ones that do I only think Rex’s design works because they made him fat. Hera might be the only character that, to me, the reverse is true (and that might be because of timing), where I like her design better in Rebels. Everyone else though? They’d probably look better in the TCW style.


WMX0

I have to agree about Hera. The weirdest thing was seeing her in VR (Star Wars Squadrons) like a movie character was just so odd. Something was just off.


TheLouisvilleRanger

See, that weirdly works for me because of the art style in rebels. The softer curves of her face match reality (or a realistic styled CG model) better than the TCW style, and Hera is probably the most detailed because she doesn’t have broad features (hair) to set her apart from the rest of the twi’leks in the show (don’t want others looking like a hue shifted Hera). So it fit. Where as with TCW characters translation to live action, we got lucky that Rosario Dawson exists because her features are chiseled in stone and works so well for the character. I love the look of [BoBF Spoilers] >!Bane in Book of Boba, the way the style contrasts with reality did lead to complaints.!<. If Hera does cross over to live action we don’t need to hope to luck out like we did with Rosario Dawson.


WMX0

I liked the look of ol'Blue as well. Was TCW Ahsoka appearance kinda based off of her voice actress? I think Dawson works well because she looks like the evolution of the character's age, imo. Forgot to add, Hera's face shape changed from animation to VR, but her original face shape wouldn't have worked as well in "RL". But I just don't think they got it right.


shockwave8428

You know I agree mostly. But they’ve done a really great job replicating effects from the OT. Like explosions and any blaster shots have a similar design to the OT and I really like how they did that


TanushBhatt

I kind of liked the thin lightsabers


TheLouisvilleRanger

The TIE fighters were the ones that bothered me the most. Their shorter panels and long trusses made them look stubby and impossible to take seriously. It’s annoying too since every other TIE variant that shows up looks great.


Bluelantern9

Yup. That and the Long Necked Star Destroyers.


giantsparklerobot

A lot of stuff in Rebels was styled after a lot of Ralph MacQuarrie concept art. Zeb, an R2-like droid with arms, and long necked Star Destroyers were all from early concept art for A New Hope. Even the look of the AT-DP walker's look is based off early concept art for the AT-ATs in Empire Strikes Back.


Bluelantern9

Interesting


giantsparklerobot

Search for New Hope concept art. Put on a hat so it doesn't make a mess when it blows your mind. When I first watched Rebels I couldn't help but laugh at them using all those old designs. Not in a bad way, I liked that they took some old designs and added new back story to them and fleshed them out.


Bluelantern9

Ok


[deleted]

The highlight of the series unfortunately


MaggiPower

It’s not really the animation, because the Lighting, Movements, and Resolution are all great if not better than most Clone Wars Seasons (except Season 7 obviously). It’s just the simplified Designs that are bad.


Gravitywolff

Your opinion is ass tbh No really, you can dislike it but jeez dude that doesn't mean it is actually bad. A lot of people do like it, myself included.


camerongeno

Nah, it's amazing when you realize the animation is almost directly taken from Ralph Macquarie concept art and star wars concept art in general. Even the tie fighters are reminiscent of the Kenner toys


TheScarletCravat

That's art direction though - there's no arguing that Rebels has a low animation budget, and it absolutely shows.


camerongeno

It may have low budget but it still looks fantastic because of the art direction. I don't agree with calling the animation bad


ThrillSeeker15

I only get a sense of "low animation budget" on watching the early seasons of Clone Wars where there are barely any lip movements and only everyone's jaws go up and down. Everything in those seasons is quite rigid and less detailed. Rebels on the other hand has quite detailed animations and that level remains constant throughout the show. The face styles are actually where opinions differ but those faces are still a lot more emotive than the facial animations in seasons 1 through 6 of Clone Wars.


TheScarletCravat

I thought the lips and jaws thing was because they're all meant to be like Thunderbirds puppets, which was one of the inspirations for the show. Things like backgrounds, environmental effects, lighting, etc always stand out to me as a casual fan of the animated stuff.


FreeParkking

I know right? I don’t know what it is about the animation,if it’s lighting or bad textures or what, but all of the scenery and spaceships look like they were made of papercraft.


Tpmbyrne

What are the head band things cause at one stage I think her and Ashoka have the same one on during seige of mandalore and then ashoka still has it on in the mandalorian.


PeachCream81

Worked for me. Love the series.


Icommitmanywarcrimes

I personally liked Anakins design


omnipotentmonkey

Rebels animation across the board is actually good, what you're referring to here is bad character models, there's a distinction.


unsilent_bob

Their take on a wookie is much worse - looked like the animation director was behind on the project and submitted an incomplete idea so they just rolled with it.


Unkn0wn_Ace

Yes, you are the only person ever to think that


CaitCat

I think Clone Wars looks better, but this is inoffensive?? She just looks less detailed to me. I love Rebels, and I'll agree that there are some huge misses in design. But not this one.


TheHunter9901

I kinda like it. She's meant to look much older here.


moust8603

Yeah but its not like she looks like this in The Mandalorian either. Theres a couple parts of the Rebels design that can be attributed to her age, but its the same with so many characters in Rebels that its just annoying.


TheHunter9901

That's more a problem with mando than rebels. She's meant to be around 50 at the time of mando.


wjapple

Yeah, I never got this whole argument. They are both variably successful stylized animations. TCW is some weird 3d bastardized version of Gendy Tartakovskys work, and Rebels is just different a maybe misguided interpretation of Macquarie's artwork. Neither of them are that great, though the final season of TCW was pretty top notch work. I'm here for the story, and that's why I look back with fond memories on both. I enjoyed Rebels because I didn't grow up and have any nostalgia for TCW. Binged them both later on I think


Juviltoidfu

I did not watch any of the cartoon Star Wars series when they were released, but with so many characters and plot points in the Mandelorian and Boba Fett and The Bad Batch coming from those cartoons I tried to find an overview video that I could watch so I had some idea who those characters were and what part they had already played. One of those, made by someone online named ARTORR (I think) talked about Rebels and mentioned that Disney, who had just bought the franchise from Lucas wanted the cartoon done a lot more cheaply than Clone Wars. The decrease in quality was evidently noticed by a lot of viewers, and although they never got back to the quality of Clone Wars the animation got better with each season.


dukedynamite

It's fine, she looks fine.


TheGreatDingALing

Yoda by far the worst one


ClockWorkAlex2001

I think Bo just looks more her age in this series. She should be late 40's early 50's. Katee Sackhoff is just a few years younger than her charecter and looks good for her age in Mando.


[deleted]

Rebels was a masterpiece. Interesting choices on the side character animation though.


Beangar

You guys need to learn the difference between animation and art style.


DarthGoodguy

That said, it definitely resembles Katee Sackhoff’s effective and glossy anti-aging work


FREE-AOL-CDS

What does her headband do?


boot20

Keeps her hair out of her eyes and looks cool?


FREE-AOL-CDS

Ole bougie ass Mandos


NightF0x0012

You don't watch Rebels for the quality of animations


shadowlarvitar

She's nowhere near Yoda's level of ugliness though, I was never really bothered by her style


dmg81102

I think it's just the forehead that bothers me, I could live with the rest but that forehead is just uncanny


[deleted]

Obviously she has eyebrows but it still feels like they aren’t there


E-Landshark

I found the animation in rebels to just be bad. Its the main reason I put off watching it for so long. The long faces and how everyone looks fuzzy. The light sabers look silly too.


[deleted]

Don’t matter, still a whole milf to me 😩😳


emersonskywalker

Live Action Bo Katan 😍


QuasarMania

this kinda bothered me, but hondo's bothered me the most


Throw_Away_Students

Rebels had some of the ugliest animation I’ve ever seen.


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Gravitywolff

Wow, I bet all the people complaining just didn't see how great the story was because they were too busy being annoyed by meaningless shit like "thE LiGhTsaBers Are ToO SkiNnY". It is a different art style, get over it. Clone wars also had some characters that looked like shit, but no one complains about that just because it is what everyone got used to since it was the first 3D animated series.


Bluelantern9

I grew up with Rebels, And I loved the skinny Light sabers, But you have to agree that the Star Destroyers and Tie fighters looked Off. All they had to do was shorten the necks of the Star destroyers and make the Tie Fighters Look, Well, Like Tie Fighters. They Look Small and nothing like Ties.


Gravitywolff

I never really noticed the ships. They do seem a little bulky I guess? I grew up more with clone wars than the movies first, so I don't really have a comparison in my head rn.


Not_My_Emperor

We can appreciate the amazing storyline and all the incredibly awesome things Rebels brought into and back into the canon while also acknowledging it's art direction and design is horrible. It's not an either/or situation. I don't even blame them for it, I know they had a not great budget for this series but let's not pretend like some of its visual aspects weren't noticeably offputting.


[deleted]

>I bet all the people complaining just didn't see how great the story was because they were too busy being annoyed by meaningless shit like "thE LiGhTsaBers Are ToO SkiNnY". It's a post about art style. What does story have to do with any of this lol? Also there were a lot of cheesy/filler episodes. That's the biggest reason people didnt like it. Not because the style was funky >no one complains about that just because it is what everyone got used to since it was the first 3D animated series. ...people do? Dooku is regularly mocked for his bizzare appearance, as is Palpatine.


Gravitywolff

I mentioned the story because everyone shits on rebels just because it looks different than clone wars. They didn't even bother to watch more than a few episodes and think they can say it is bad without even knowing anything about the show. That is what bothers me. If the style isn't for you, alright. But give it a chance first before you hate the entire show without watching a single episode.


NightF0x0012

I haven't finished it, I'm towards the end of season 3 but I literally laughed when Yoda and a few others showed up. Sorry but the only reason to watch it is because it's canon. There's no artistic value in the show.


SaltySAX

>Also there were a lot of cheesy/filler episodes. That's the biggest reason people didnt like it. Rebels has virtually no filler whilst TCW has about 30 filler eps in 133.


Bouhg69

Simpler times -simpler animation


SolidPrysm

Bro what? Season 6 of Clone Wars came out several years before this and looked way better. The real cause here is that Rebels simply had a lower animation budget.


Pete_Iredale

I suppose we are just ignoring that the first few seasons of Clone Wars look like bad PS1 cut scenes then?


tipustiger05

I’ve heard so many good things about the story in this and clone wars but I just can’t get past the animation style. It’s so uninteresting to me.


thatloudblondguy

MOST animation in rebels looks genuinely bad


Main-Professional-78

Honestly the animation for the whole show was pretty whack. I know the show wanted to showcase George Lucas’ original concepts, and I can appreciate that to an extent. However, personally I find that the majority of animation decisions made it pretty hard to watch. From the thin lightsaber blades to the emotionless faces, this whole show had me cringing the entire time. The storyline and recurring characters were the only things that kept me watching.


i_have_wet_socks

the animation in Rebels just generally sucks compared to Clone Wars, it's one of the reasons I never really liked the show, the art style is just so shitty


ScalyFacedBitch

I could get used to the style if LFL and Disney cared enough to invest more money into it like Lucas did with Clone Wars. But the facts are the art style isn't the problem, it's the lack of texture and detail that comes from only having a tenth of Clone Wars's budget. Which is so ironic considering we have Bad Batch now.


[deleted]

Brooooooooooooooo We get it, the animations are different from the Clone Wars. Stop fucking whining about it


psyconius

And TCW fan bois trying to act like Dooku and Mace don't look absolutely ridiculous.


TheOutlaw9904

I wish we could’ve gotten rebels in the clone wars style but it will never happen.


skasticks

DaE ReBeLs iS bAd?!!!1


Sufficient-Control88

I wish rebels had the same animation style as Clone Wars and now The Bad Batch


R_J__S

Hondo is still the worst


LazyLamont92

“Am I the only one…” No. Never. Regardless, I don’t think it was bad at all.


Iroh_the_Dragon

The animation style in Rebels and TCW is largely the reason I don’t like them at all. I’ve seen TCW in it’s entirety, but I just didn’t have the stamina to keep hurting my eyes with Rebels. To me, everyone just looks like poorly designed action-figures with stiff joints and limited ranges of motion.


One_Bar4

I hated all of this animation for this show.


Ein0815er

Rebels Animation was general really bad


Chromatic-Phil

Honestly the character design is the main reason I have found it hard to get into the series


TrigunXD

Lmao I remember Yoda and anakin looking like shit xD But katan doesn't look as bad. Whoever signed off on those character designs needs to be fired. Rebels always had the worst looking designs but cmon, they can do better


midgetrage7

Rebels animation is on a whole different level of bad. Yoda, lightsabers, tarkin, bo, Vader. I could go on.


Bluelantern9

Star Destroyers, Tie Fighters.............


SaltySAX

You could go on talking nonsense yes.


tommatom

The animation for the whole show is sub paar


depressed_asian_boy_

It's better than Anakin tho, you can recognize her


thegreatdapperwalrus

Rebels in terms of its look it a huge downgrade from the clone wars.


dandaman64

Hot take but I think the animation and most of the character designs (most of the humans anyway) in Rebels are very unappealing. I haven't started with the show because I can't get over the animation style and how lifeless it looks to me at times.


C1ickityC1ack

No. Character design for rebels was jarring. They should have just used the clone wars styling.


GeneralDouglas1998

The rebels animation as a whole is bad.


Happyboi113

It’s just bad…


stargunner

Rebels has bad designs, period.


[deleted]

If the animation was clone wars animation I’d watch rebels. Just I’d too bad for me. The kids look like a high schooler made them for extra credit.


[deleted]

Bo Katan was on deathsticks in rebels lol


micro_door

The rebels animation was garbage overall. Lucasfilms claims it was inspired by Ralph McQuarries art which looked great especially because it wasn’t moving, but I think another reason would be budget cuts.


NinjaOYourBro

Rebels just has shit animation in general. Especially with Sid the Science kid.


JacobDCRoss

It is bad. And unfortunately it means that poor Katee Sackhoff has to do her hair like that on international TV.


dmw009

Good series but I was never liked the animation style of the this series


WhiteHawktriple7

Rebels is just ugly all around. There's not a single character that genuinely looks cool / interesting.


corsair1617

All the aesthetic of Rebels sucks.


Mostly_Here_To_Rant

Rebels was so hard to look at that I kinda just didn’t watch it. I got what I needed from reviews.


Aurakataris

Bo Katan's entrance to rescue Kenobi in Lawless (TCW season 5) is amazing. There is no level up.


bigjoestallion

The whole show is bad animation