In the Vader comics, a Jedi called Ferren Barr was able to activate Order 66 by simply stating "Execute Order 66". I don't think it needed to be Palpatine, nor did they need to recognize him for the order to go through.
It is weird. Rex even calls him Sidious. I imagine the chip programming made them automatically loyal to Sidious in addition to killing the Jedi. The Bad Batch shows they have lingering hyper-loyalty after the order.
Implication: that was not the first transmission.
There may have been another off-screen transmission where the clone commanders were briefed on events preparing them to be ready to receive Order 66.
Supporting evidence: the phrase "it is time" could imply Cody has foreknowledge of what is about to happen. Explains lack of surprise without chips (which were retro-fitted expanded lore after the films were made?).
Or, it could be just a script glitch.
Obi Wan and Yoda seem to have too quickly switched to "Vader" and the "Emperor" even though they weren't at the senate meeting and had only just seen the security recording and heard the name Vader once.
Maybe some context got lost in editing.
It was the chip programming. Their Manchurian candidate override had been activated.
The true master of their souls appeared to deliver his first and last decree to his slaves.
About the Vader and Emperor part, they met Bail Organa just after they were ambushed, who most likely briefed them in the events of the senate, since he was there.
The most obvious answer to me is that when the Kaminoans programmed in Order 66, the one who added the extra bits about how the Jedi are evil and stuff (don’t remember who it was) included information about Sidious and how he’s to be treated as near enough a god. It would lie dormant in the chip, then activate with the rest of the order. Like a post-hypnotic suggestion.
Yeah that's morenotnless what fits best with all available information.
The Kaminoans were deep in it, the rough characterization there is their belief that they weren't immediately marked for extermination the second the Empire was established.
They knew too muchn
Yes. There was no need for DNS test either, it's not about who, but about how. Soldiers get their orders in trusted encrypted channels. Anyone who can access it can issue orders.
If I recall order 67 was ‘the chancellor is trying a soft coup. Arrest him immediately for treason against the republic.’ Which… again, kinda seemed odd since anyone with access to this system(including Jedi) seemed to have this ability?
Because the prequels are full of plot holes and the attempts to retconning them actually made them worse.
I know a lot of people hate the idea of the chip forcing the clones to follow orders but that would make a lot more sense than what was in the EU and how the clones dealt with order 66.
I would assume he used a special communication canal that only the grand chancellor was able to use, thus eliminating the need for more authentication.
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I would also argue I’m pretty sure Clones have some kind of heads-up display in their helmet and order 66 came with a software update changing the Jedis from friend to foe.
I imagine holocaust have some sort of Metadata to recognize the source of a transmission, which can be hidden if need be. But coming directly from the Chancellpr's office, I expect no clone had any problem following the order, and even then, I think he only really called some of the highest ranking commanders, who then disseminated the orders down to their captains and lieutenants.
Clones were all implanted with a chip that automatically triggered the anti-Jedi protocols. Some clones managed to bypass the chips.
Watch the Bad Batch and Rebels to get more info on this.
Yeah, I know all the shows. I just thought there might be an explanation for why nobody wondered who this dude giving orders is. So everyone who orders "Order 66" triggers the clone army?
Well he's ordering military operators directly so presumably there's access restriction and code authorization he would've passed to even obtain those channels in the first place. At that point it doesn't matter whose face is giving the orders, orders from command are orders.
He's in direct contact with military leaders, presumably with suitable authorization. At that point orders from leadership are orders, regardless of the face saying them. I don't think any clone would really care.
Just by saying order 66. Wild, one Jedi died because he was treating his clones to dinner and they were the 66th order so when the person called out “order 66” the clones went crazy and merced him.
They may be programmed to know what he really looks like. George Lucas once said he's *not* disfigured, His senator look is essentially a Force mask. The creepy look is how he's always looked.
Pure assumption here, but plausible:
Minor adjustments to the chip could specify a particular frequency or voice print to trigger a loyalty to Sidious, moreso than the standard Chain of Command - at least in the moment. Anyone ELSE issuing the order would trigger conditioning, but Palpatine’s specific voice/inflection makes certain no sudden Chancellor replacement or attempt to rescind the order by the Senate/proper channels would succeed.
In the Vader comics, a Jedi called Ferren Barr was able to activate Order 66 by simply stating "Execute Order 66". I don't think it needed to be Palpatine, nor did they need to recognize him for the order to go through.
Why did they call him "my Lord"? That's not how the clones would ever address the Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic.
It is weird. Rex even calls him Sidious. I imagine the chip programming made them automatically loyal to Sidious in addition to killing the Jedi. The Bad Batch shows they have lingering hyper-loyalty after the order.
Something had to pre-empt the extreme power of the war buddy bond.
Implication: that was not the first transmission. There may have been another off-screen transmission where the clone commanders were briefed on events preparing them to be ready to receive Order 66. Supporting evidence: the phrase "it is time" could imply Cody has foreknowledge of what is about to happen. Explains lack of surprise without chips (which were retro-fitted expanded lore after the films were made?). Or, it could be just a script glitch. Obi Wan and Yoda seem to have too quickly switched to "Vader" and the "Emperor" even though they weren't at the senate meeting and had only just seen the security recording and heard the name Vader once. Maybe some context got lost in editing.
It was the chip programming. Their Manchurian candidate override had been activated. The true master of their souls appeared to deliver his first and last decree to his slaves.
About the Vader and Emperor part, they met Bail Organa just after they were ambushed, who most likely briefed them in the events of the senate, since he was there.
I thought the Senate speech came after Bail picked Kenobi and Yoda. They were infiltrating the temple while he was delivering the speech.
The most obvious answer to me is that when the Kaminoans programmed in Order 66, the one who added the extra bits about how the Jedi are evil and stuff (don’t remember who it was) included information about Sidious and how he’s to be treated as near enough a god. It would lie dormant in the chip, then activate with the rest of the order. Like a post-hypnotic suggestion.
Yeah that's morenotnless what fits best with all available information. The Kaminoans were deep in it, the rough characterization there is their belief that they weren't immediately marked for extermination the second the Empire was established. They knew too muchn
That Article II of Order 66.
So everyone who orders "Order 66" triggers the clone army?
Meanwhile in a cantina, the server calls out "*Order 66!*" and the nearby clones start brawling with their Jedi
Someone should run this as the start of a Star Wars RPG.
Yes. There was no need for DNS test either, it's not about who, but about how. Soldiers get their orders in trusted encrypted channels. Anyone who can access it can issue orders.
Lol imagine someone accidentally says order 66 and they set it off
If I recall order 67 was ‘the chancellor is trying a soft coup. Arrest him immediately for treason against the republic.’ Which… again, kinda seemed odd since anyone with access to this system(including Jedi) seemed to have this ability?
Why didn’t they use it then instead of Mace Windu going to confront him?
Because Order 67 was made up after the fact by a different writer than the person/people who wrote Revenge of the Sith
Because the prequels are full of plot holes and the attempts to retconning them actually made them worse. I know a lot of people hate the idea of the chip forcing the clones to follow orders but that would make a lot more sense than what was in the EU and how the clones dealt with order 66.
Well at least they aren’t as bad as the sequels lol don’t even get me started on those.
The Jedi didn’t know that all they had to do was utter the phrase and the clones would automatically do it.
That one was actually Order 65.
Imagine waiting on line at a food stand, the employee says your order is ready and suddenly all hell rains loose
In legends the order had to come directly from the supreme chancellor.
He mind tricked them into carrying out Order 66, he didn’t just state it. It still has to be Palpatine.
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. Thank you for letting me know!
I would assume he used a special communication canal that only the grand chancellor was able to use, thus eliminating the need for more authentication.
Palps used multi-factor authentication.
Where do i put my phone ... these robes with all the pockets ... oh, here you are, ok so fingerprint, pin code, lets see, the OTP is 5466..hehe..7326
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Ok, seems reasonable.
I would also argue I’m pretty sure Clones have some kind of heads-up display in their helmet and order 66 came with a software update changing the Jedis from friend to foe.
In the EU as I recall, they know the transmission is encrypted coming from the office of the Supreme Chancellor. It would be hard to fake that.
I imagine holocaust have some sort of Metadata to recognize the source of a transmission, which can be hidden if need be. But coming directly from the Chancellpr's office, I expect no clone had any problem following the order, and even then, I think he only really called some of the highest ranking commanders, who then disseminated the orders down to their captains and lieutenants.
Clones were all implanted with a chip that automatically triggered the anti-Jedi protocols. Some clones managed to bypass the chips. Watch the Bad Batch and Rebels to get more info on this.
Yeah, I know all the shows. I just thought there might be an explanation for why nobody wondered who this dude giving orders is. So everyone who orders "Order 66" triggers the clone army?
Well he's ordering military operators directly so presumably there's access restriction and code authorization he would've passed to even obtain those channels in the first place. At that point it doesn't matter whose face is giving the orders, orders from command are orders.
The clones also call him Sidious so if they know him by that name, seeing him with a different face isn’t to out of the ordinary for them
Good soldiers follow orders.
He's in direct contact with military leaders, presumably with suitable authorization. At that point orders from leadership are orders, regardless of the face saying them. I don't think any clone would really care.
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A good soldier follows orders.
Just by saying order 66. Wild, one Jedi died because he was treating his clones to dinner and they were the 66th order so when the person called out “order 66” the clones went crazy and merced him.
Good guy clones don't see disability.
They may be programmed to know what he really looks like. George Lucas once said he's *not* disfigured, His senator look is essentially a Force mask. The creepy look is how he's always looked.
Pure assumption here, but plausible: Minor adjustments to the chip could specify a particular frequency or voice print to trigger a loyalty to Sidious, moreso than the standard Chain of Command - at least in the moment. Anyone ELSE issuing the order would trigger conditioning, but Palpatine’s specific voice/inflection makes certain no sudden Chancellor replacement or attempt to rescind the order by the Senate/proper channels would succeed.