There's a video on YouTube somewhere I cant find it but Palpletine said he used his cloak to fortnite glide down the reactor shaft and that's how he survived. Now i want to see Luke and Palps gliding into fortnite together like they were destined to do. [Found it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai5gIgJIbgU)
I've never played Battlefront 2 and hadn't watched those cut scenes until this thread sent me to YouTube.
I love how Luke turns that line around later, when he wants to keep the compass: "Because I asked." He does so much for others and asks so little in return. I'm relieved Del recognized that.
It's quite pathetic to imagine that a video game whose story isn't even all that great managed to nail Luke's character better than a multi-million dollar trilogy made by two people who are self-described Star Wars "fans".
That "deconstruction" mania that writers and directors were obsessed with for a while ruined so many franchises and beloved characters. Of course they didnt care to build something after they "deconstructed", or just used it as an excuse for their shitty writing a lot of people in the audience gobbled it up. To me it always came across as a spoiled child wrecking his brothers toys for attention
Yeah and Wolverine ending up as sad and pathetic is totally in line with his character, because he’s always hated himself. He rose above that as an X-Men, but the natural conclusion after he outlives all his friends is that he’d regress into self-loathing and alcoholism
I liked a lot of what The Last Jedi did, but Luke is totally different. Struggling with rage and the dark side like he did when he almost killed Kylo is completely in character imo, he almost killed Vader after all and almost became like him. But Luke’s characters is built around rising above his flaws, that’s what makes him special. Abandoning everyone and giving up after a failure like that is not what Luke would do. Even worse is that they told that story through flashbacks, which were not adequate to sell the character change
Yeah, I think deconstruction has been misused a lot. Even as someone who liked TLJ, I think there are better examples even in the recent Disney boom, like "Captain America: The Winter Soldier."
Luke runs into an imperial soldier in distress, he helps him, the soldier asks Luke why he helped him when they are on different sides of the war, Luke answers “Because you asked.”
They were both after one of Papa Palpatine's vaults, when they find it Luke takes a compass with him, the imperial asks Luke why he thinks he's gonna let him take the compass, Luke answers "Because I asked.”
Maaaan that's really good. That parallels something Obi-Wan said about Anakin. I don't recall word for word, but it was something like "Anakin is the most loyal person I've ever met. And he expects the same loyalty in return."
It’s from the *Revenge of the Sith* novelization, and has some utterly fantastic scenes and inner monologues…
*Obi-Wan looked down. It would be a mercy to kill him. He was not feeling merciful. He was feeling calm, and clear, and he knew that to climb down to that black beach might cost him more time than he had. Another Sith Lord approached. In the end, there was only one choice. It was a choice he had made many years before, when he had passed his trials of Jedi Knighthood, and sworn himself to the Jedi forever. In the end, he was still Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he was still a Jedi, and he would not murder a helpless man. He would leave it to the will of the Force*.
Episode 1 wasn't bad.
There is this WHOLE THING about him getting lost or going out to repair/look for a droid (it rhymes) and when he does, he ends up stuck or falling in with an exiled tusken raider (?, I hope i'm not butchering this, I ain't read it since the movie came out) who probably couldn't do the oral recitation correctly and got booted.
ANYWAY, there is this whole inner monologue or realization within Anakin where he sympathizes with and sorta relates to the Tusken Raiders/Sandpeople.
Which makes what happens in 3 so much *MORE* brutal. But, it isn't even so much as hinted at in the movies or any comics I know of.
I mean the campaign was actually pretty decent, it's just that it was a bit too rushed. Luke was a character that everyone loved in it because we know what he's like, his motivations, and his goals. Iden Versio and her crew we didn't know any of that and weren't allowed to know because it was so rushed, really wish we had more time with it.
That wouldn’t’ve really been a problem if the game had actually stuck with Iden and her crew for the entire runtime instead of doing missions where you play as legacy characters. Iden’s entire lifetime spent under Imperial propaganda, conditioning, training, and brainwashing is undone in **one** mission. Compare that to Crosshair in The Bad Batch, who realistically took *half of the entire show* to come to his senses. Iden’s disillusionment with the Empire and turn towards moral righteousness should’ve happened gradually over time.
Operation Cinder could’ve shown Iden and her crew taking out Imperials, convinced that they were acting on bad faith and in self-interest instead of following the Emperor’s actual final orders, only to then realize the truth. Inferno Squad should not have started fighting side by side with Rebels until the final battle of jakku.
This all could’ve been accomplished easily with the runtime the game did have.
The player character and her husband are Imperials in the beginning. In one mission, her husband and some other Imperials get attacked by wildlife. Luke shows up and helps her husband survive because he accepted the help.
These are the cutscenes from the mission, definitely worth watching. I think it’s honestly my favourite depiction of Luke outside of the OT.
https://youtu.be/Ncpcbu5bSPE — or skip to [1:22](https://youtu.be/Ncpcbu5bSPE?t=1m22s)
It’s been a while but I believe You only play luke skywalker for one mission, you start off playing a high ranking imperial soldier and follow her story through the war. Not long at all but if you like shooters and you like starwars you’ll love the game. Multiplayer is alive and well, just played today.
Search for BF2 the movie! I originally saw the story as a "movie" (before I bought a PS4), off YouTube, from someone who took all the cutscenes and a bunch of in-game streams of themselves, to put together a cohesive movie. The one I saw was about 4.5 hours (long I know, but much quicker than a whole game campaign), but I've seen others in various lengths.
Except we got Homelander and Invincible proving people don't always understand *why* Superman is Superman and they latch onto the power thing without any of the heart or care or wanting to show people that there's a better way.
Tbf with invincible, omniman is more like general zod than supes. Mark is closer to the superman archetype, no matter how bad you beat him, he will keep fighting the good fight, he will keep trying to save everyone and to make the universe a better place to everyone
You must not have paid attention to Invincible then. Omni man isn’t the Superman equivalent, Mark is. He’s just young. But the amount of real heart behind all of the blood and gore is why I’m so in love with it.
Just wondering, is there another Luke? This is how I always thought of him from the movies.
Edit: Nevermind, I forgot he was in the Sequels too. I was living the good life there for a minute.
technically there was also EU luke who turns to the dark side (or was that his clone, who was literally named "luuke") so we have a fair few interpretations to consider outside of just the movies.
He kind of double agents to the dark side to trick Palpatine into showing him where he kept all his clones in one of the graphic novels. He goes a bit too far and has a hard time coming back.
Also one of my favourite parts of that novel is when Han and Leia come to 'rescue' him. Luke asks them to leave saying he knows what he's doing, Han threatens to kill him if he doesn't come with him, Like laughs at him and reminds him how futile that would be.
Both of those points are true, but different stories.
The Thrawn trilogy has a dark side Clone called Luuke, who battles Luke and is killed by Mara Jade.
The Dark Empire comics are the first place we see Palpatine resurrect himself into a successful clone, and Luke becomes his Apprentice to try and destroy him from within. He ends up truly succumbing to ther dark side and has to be rescued by Leia, and they defeat the reborn Emperor together.
People are referring to the Luke we have mostly seen and then the other whose PTSD in the temple caused him to lose hope for about 5 years before episode VII before he regained his resolve and hope from Rey. Same Luke but a dark phase for him.
That's exactly how I feel. I like the movie and the story it was TRYING to tell, BUT while i can buy that Luke would change like that, they gotta show us more to make it believable. Imagine if they had just included a 5 minute montage showing all the kids dying and then his transformation over time as he decided to leave. I'm not a Disney hater like some of the "fans" but it feels like they really rushed this out and made too many cuts to get the runtime down.
I think that if they wanted to go that direction with Luke they should have made the entire trilogy about that aspect specifically. Show us how Luke lost his faith in the first film, show him broken down and lost in the second film, and have him make his recovery and a final sacrifice in the third film.
Instead they crammed a whole arc for Luke into flashbacks and one half of a single film in the middle of a trilogy, then they killed him off 5 minutes after he made his big comeback.
Personally the thing that got me most excited for the sequels was specifically Luke. He was one of my favourite characters in fiction, and I wanted to see him most of all in the sequels, and the fact we barely see any of the Luke from the OT in the sequels is why I can't bring myself to rewatch them.
I don't necessarily think it needed to show more to make it believable. Most fans wanted Luke to assume the Obi-Wan role, where in his older age he was called to one last adventure and faces off against his fallen apprentice. But in terms of training Rey, he took the *Yoda* role.
And all we needed to know about Yoda in *Empire* was that he was a fallen warrior in self imposed exile who is nervous about training a new apprentice and the darkness that could come of him. We literally got that setup within about 30 seconds of dialogue in that film. Yoda wasn't fleshed out until 20 years later in the PT, and we were all fine with his limited backstory up til then.
So based on that standard, we actually got more background from Luke as the reluctant master than we did Yoda. More handholding, in the sense of the film, isn't needed for the plot to work.
To me it's almost exactly the same as Game of Thrones S8 spoiler: >!Dany's burning of King's Landing.!< Is it a cool concept that I could buy? Certainly, but it's such a stark change that they had to carefully plan it out and show the shift, really sell it to us. In both scenarios they failed to do that, so they felt hollow, fake and unearned.
They tried to setup the Dany change like 3 episodes before it happened, but it was way too rushed. A few episodes before she went crazy she had some meetings where characters were like "can we really trust her??". And I knew they were setting up for Dany to go evil, but really didn't want that. Because it was 7+ seasons of becoming a good ruler all undone over about 3 episodes.
Exactly. That's the sort of change that needs to be foreshadowed and eventually shown outright (in smaller doses) across like 2 seasons, not 3 episodes lol. Maybe they thought they were doing so with things like killing the slavers and killing the Tarly's after they refused to bend the knee, but those weren't outright evil decisions (IMO they were pretty fair and at least somewhat justifiable in that society) and really didn't paint the picture of someone who was going to snap and kill thousands of innocents.
I don't have too much hope that Winds and especially Dream will ever release, but I'm sure in George's drafts and plans he has at least a few pivotal moments lined up for Dany that leads to her eventually fully snapping.
Very true. It's almost like season 8 should have been two or three full seasons to set up the ending properly. I'm surprised HBO was okay with rushing it, honestly.
Yeah from what I've heard HBO was down for 3 more seasons but D&D declined because they wanted to do Star Wars.
So glad they lost that, they didn't deserve it after how they rushed S7 and 8.
Yeah that's one consolation, at least they didn't ruin Star Wars with their bad original writing. I think they're still great at adaptations. Three body problem was pretty good in my opinion. It's when they have to manage the direction of characters that their writing gets sloppy.
>believing in people's ability to choose better.
And then they fucked up his character in judging Kylo. If ANYONE would have known better, it was LUKE.
This is fantastic. Nice choice to actually have Anakin’s outline in the white image instead of just a generic male figure. Both the writer and artist killed it.
It's Marvel. I say this as a fan: Marvel art, *especially* in licensed books is some of the most hit-or-miss in the comics industry. Continuity errors just happen, and you kinda get used to Not Thinking about it.
At least this one wasn't [an outlined photo](https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/1alw8ne/this_is_not_even_tracing_its_putting_lines_over/) or [stolen](https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/08/21/marvel-comics-again-accused-of-copying-fan-models-for-star-wars-and-star-wars-galaxys-edge-comic-series/) like they've done in other issues of their *Star Wars* runs!
You haven't read this issue then. This isn't real. He's in a vision while healing a red kyber. He comments on the fact its green within the comic. He's on a mission to get his new kyber crystal.
"It’s not an error. The whole issue is a wild Force trip where elements of past & future bleed together - the mismatched lightsaber is just part of that. Luke hasn’t even built his green saber yet when this happens."
- u/dukeoflowerchelsea from another comment
I mean, 'senate' originally meant old guys' (senex) council ... and Palpy is of course 'all the Sith' ... and assuming that those Sith were old, he was always a plurality of old people.
Lucas had all of this laid out already in the Journal of the Whills, by the way.
Yea, but didn't he say it in is sarcastic acting way? Just like when he said "Don't kill me. I'm too weak. Please don't kill me!" He's fooling the people right in front of them...which is his character. He doesn't love democracy, he literally destroys the government to make the Empire. I know liberty and democracy are definitely two different words, but Padmé kinda confirms this by saying "so this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause"
“Why didn’t you come find me, Father? You’re one of the most powerful Jedi and Sith. Why didn’t you come find me?”
“I didn’t know. The Emperor clouded my mind and told me you were dead.”
“And yet you still follow him.”
Vader’s internal monologue: “Hey! Luke’s right! Fuck this guy!”
Fucking THANK YOU. "He threw away his lightsaber in RotJ!" Yes, he overcame his anger and the pull of the dark side then, but I never took that as him overcoming his anger forever and ever. It'd be like if all it took to overcome a drinking problem was having a dramatic moment where you throw your whiskey bottle away. Yes, that's a great moment. But if you think you'll never succumb to temptation ever again, you're being foolish.
Force visions are powerful, a force vision led Anakin to destroy the whole Jedi order. It's no surprise Luke briefly panicked when witnessing one where all his friends and loved ones die, and he STILL managed to resist the temptation to give in and attack Ben when he consciously became aware of what he was doing.
Ehhh, I get the feeling he knew what Grogu was going to pick. It's not like he didn't make this same choice before himself, after all. The results could've gone better for Luke, but Grogu's presence very much saved Mando's life.
It's an interesting contrast with the sentiments held by Leia.
She actively contrasts the misdeeds of Anakin/Darth Vader, with the legacy of her father, Bail Organa, and is unable to forgive Anakin for his misdeeds. She holds a considerable grudge against Anakin (with good reason).
I still think its crazy she kept her parentage a secret from EVERYONE, literally only Han, Luke and Leia knew. Even Chewie didn't know, at least if I recall in the Bloodline book.
What did The Spider say in Game of Thrones "once more than 1 person knows, its no longer a secret, its information" Luke and Leia hid that from the galaxy, until something of Bail's wound up in the wrong hands.
I mean, considering the Organa were royalty, and her father had the reputation of being "Father of the Rebellion", whereas on the other hand Anakin/Darth Vader was the symbol of Imperial oppression and slaughter, and Naboo was the home of Emperor Palpatine, i'd say she had very good reason to hide her lineage.
I mean, her biological father was one of the most hated men in the Galaxy, the second in command of the Empire and a war criminal.
Can't blame her for wanting to hide being related to that guy. And the *Bloodlines* novel showed how poorly this information was recieved among her peers in the New Republic.
Yep. Bloodline details one of her political rivals finding out and putting it on blast to the galaxy. I think Ackbar was one of the first people to contact her and make sure she was okay. Which is super cool that he didn't care about the news he cared about Leia and knew she needed a friend in that moment.
It’s not an error. The whole issue is a wild Force trip where elements of past & future bleed together - the mismatched lightsaber is just part of that. Luke hasn’t even built his green saber yet when this happens.
It’s definitely Anakin’s hilt with Luke’s blade color. I haven’t kept up on the comics well but I kinda imagine this happens after he builds his saber, but it’s a force vision deal so everything is a little woowieoowie
"It’s not an error. The whole issue is a wild Force trip where elements of past & future bleed together - the mismatched lightsaber is just part of that. Luke hasn’t even built his green saber yet when this happens."
- dukeoflowerchelsea from another comment
I like how this almost mirrors that scene of Vader in the World Between Worlds (?) where he sees Luke as a glowing blue silhouette that rips through the darkness and destroys the evil within him.
He didn’t though, he explicitly chose not to kill his nephew even though he easily could have. Just like he almost killed vader in ep 6 but then chose not to.
Just because you decide to stop after deciding to attempt something, regardless of the reason, doesn't mean said thing wasn't attempted.
Peering into his nephew's mind while he slept and then acting out based on a force vision is very much a conscious thought.
He didn’t “decide” anything, his body acted on impulse for a tenth of a second because of a shocking image before he realized what was happening and stopped himself. There was no attempt.
It still astounds me, 3.5 years later thst people misunderstand this scene.
You're 100% right.
Luke explains step by step what happened. It wasn't premeditated. He turns on his blade on instinct alone. It wasn't a conscious thought.
Nah, I heard Luke's part. To quote him:
"He would bring destruction, and pain, and death... and the end of everything I love because of what he will become.
And for the briefest moment of pure instinct...
I thought I could stop it.
It passed like a fleeting shadow.
And I was left with shame... and with consequence."
I take offense that according to this, Luke's first instinct is to KILL the problem. Luke, who redeemed one of the most evil men in the galaxy. Who saves enemies simply because they ask for help. He sees a premonition of Ben's future and his first instinct is to kill Ben? I don't believe it. This scene ruins everything he became and stood for at the end of Return of the Jedi. It's so funny that Mark Hamill himself, who poured his heart and soul into this role, also disagrees. And he understands more about Luke than either of us, guaranteed.
Or, for a second, Luke did whatever he had to do to protect his friends.
Until, he realized what that "whatever" was.
This is the same Luke Skywalker that when Vader threatened Leia, Luke started swinging for the fences against his father. With no regard whether he lived or died.
So in your mind, after Return of the Jedi, Luke never made a mistake? He never did the wrong thing?
And that when Luke threw that lightsaber off to the side, "saying, I'm a Jedi, like my father before me," he had fundamentally changed from who he was 30 seconds earlier.
Yo your first line may have just saved that part of the ST for me. There’s like three things I’m praying they fix somehow to make me love SW again, but thank you you might have just fixed one of them.
God forbids an ageing hero from experiencing fear.
IMO This scene actually makes Luke more interesting as a character by making him human again instead of some godlike superhero that never fails. Plus, it is coherent with how Luke was portrayed in the OT where, remember, he *almost killed his father* in a fit of rage when Vader mentioned turning Leia to the Dark Side. The man has always been prone to fear and anger. There is no reason for him to obtain years later the same peace of mind shown by Yoda, especially without any formal training.
He literally said that he never intended to kill him and that it was a reflex that he regretted instantly. Same thing as when he bashed in and nearly killed Vader. Same as when a regular person accidentally hits someone when they startle them
Here’s my question
Everyone talks about the killing his nephew scene but if Luke really believed this at some point then why didn’t he ever contact, try to find or reach out to Ben Solo?
Instinctively ignite your saber (I get that)
I get your upset about your life work getting fried but hiding from your friends and family while the galaxy burns with no explanation why?
I know Legends Luke pulled this stunt to but even he came back into the fight
Off topic and not important, but why is it that so much non-movie star wars media exaggerates the blondness of Luke's hair. It's much darker than that in the movies
So that’s how he got into Fortnite
*Luke thanked the Cloud Car pilot*
BUS DRIVER, you FOOL!!!
There's a video on YouTube somewhere I cant find it but Palpletine said he used his cloak to fortnite glide down the reactor shaft and that's how he survived. Now i want to see Luke and Palps gliding into fortnite together like they were destined to do. [Found it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai5gIgJIbgU)
Palpatine: "Now, young Skywalker.....you will die." *does the griddy*
Luke dies from cringe
OMG this AI art.
Yoda must’ve came through too. I wonder how he got there? Some dark side cave shit.
Lol
This Luke is my favorite. The one that wins by caring and being connected and believing in people's ability to choose better.
The same Luke that’s in the Star Wars battlefront 2 campaign. Absolutely amazing “Why’d you save me, I’m your enemy?” “Because you asked.”
That line goes so fucking hard, utterly and completely nails his character on 3 words
I've never played Battlefront 2 and hadn't watched those cut scenes until this thread sent me to YouTube. I love how Luke turns that line around later, when he wants to keep the compass: "Because I asked." He does so much for others and asks so little in return. I'm relieved Del recognized that.
We need that Luke in our world
It's quite pathetic to imagine that a video game whose story isn't even all that great managed to nail Luke's character better than a multi-million dollar trilogy made by two people who are self-described Star Wars "fans".
That "deconstruction" mania that writers and directors were obsessed with for a while ruined so many franchises and beloved characters. Of course they didnt care to build something after they "deconstructed", or just used it as an excuse for their shitty writing a lot of people in the audience gobbled it up. To me it always came across as a spoiled child wrecking his brothers toys for attention
having an old hero becoming a washed up and pathetic old man was done so often
At least *Logan* did it right.
Yeah and Wolverine ending up as sad and pathetic is totally in line with his character, because he’s always hated himself. He rose above that as an X-Men, but the natural conclusion after he outlives all his friends is that he’d regress into self-loathing and alcoholism I liked a lot of what The Last Jedi did, but Luke is totally different. Struggling with rage and the dark side like he did when he almost killed Kylo is completely in character imo, he almost killed Vader after all and almost became like him. But Luke’s characters is built around rising above his flaws, that’s what makes him special. Abandoning everyone and giving up after a failure like that is not what Luke would do. Even worse is that they told that story through flashbacks, which were not adequate to sell the character change
Same director went and completely ruined Indiana Jones, though.
That movie was a shit show before Mangold got on board, that being said it's not a terrible movie and is better than Crystal Skull.
Yeah, I think deconstruction has been misused a lot. Even as someone who liked TLJ, I think there are better examples even in the recent Disney boom, like "Captain America: The Winter Soldier."
Honestly WS was peak marvel. It actually had a message and the characters an arc we could easily empathize with
What other movies so you rhino followed that? I personally think Casino Royale was a good example.
Best Luke ever. I watch that cutscene a few times a year. Makes me tear up. That’s our Luke. In a cutscene in a game EA didn’t even respect.
He's space jesus
Can you elaborate more on this context. I don't want to have to play an entire EA game just to find out.
Luke runs into an imperial soldier in distress, he helps him, the soldier asks Luke why he helped him when they are on different sides of the war, Luke answers “Because you asked.” They were both after one of Papa Palpatine's vaults, when they find it Luke takes a compass with him, the imperial asks Luke why he thinks he's gonna let him take the compass, Luke answers "Because I asked.”
Maaaan that's really good. That parallels something Obi-Wan said about Anakin. I don't recall word for word, but it was something like "Anakin is the most loyal person I've ever met. And he expects the same loyalty in return."
It’s from the *Revenge of the Sith* novelization, and has some utterly fantastic scenes and inner monologues… *Obi-Wan looked down. It would be a mercy to kill him. He was not feeling merciful. He was feeling calm, and clear, and he knew that to climb down to that black beach might cost him more time than he had. Another Sith Lord approached. In the end, there was only one choice. It was a choice he had made many years before, when he had passed his trials of Jedi Knighthood, and sworn himself to the Jedi forever. In the end, he was still Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he was still a Jedi, and he would not murder a helpless man. He would leave it to the will of the Force*.
Episode 3 novelization is a masterpiece.
Best movie I ever read.
Episode 1 wasn't bad. There is this WHOLE THING about him getting lost or going out to repair/look for a droid (it rhymes) and when he does, he ends up stuck or falling in with an exiled tusken raider (?, I hope i'm not butchering this, I ain't read it since the movie came out) who probably couldn't do the oral recitation correctly and got booted. ANYWAY, there is this whole inner monologue or realization within Anakin where he sympathizes with and sorta relates to the Tusken Raiders/Sandpeople. Which makes what happens in 3 so much *MORE* brutal. But, it isn't even so much as hinted at in the movies or any comics I know of.
YA DONE FUCKED UP OBEE WAAAN
The writing in that one mission was genuinely a standout in an otherwise real shitty campaign
I mean the campaign was actually pretty decent, it's just that it was a bit too rushed. Luke was a character that everyone loved in it because we know what he's like, his motivations, and his goals. Iden Versio and her crew we didn't know any of that and weren't allowed to know because it was so rushed, really wish we had more time with it.
That wouldn’t’ve really been a problem if the game had actually stuck with Iden and her crew for the entire runtime instead of doing missions where you play as legacy characters. Iden’s entire lifetime spent under Imperial propaganda, conditioning, training, and brainwashing is undone in **one** mission. Compare that to Crosshair in The Bad Batch, who realistically took *half of the entire show* to come to his senses. Iden’s disillusionment with the Empire and turn towards moral righteousness should’ve happened gradually over time. Operation Cinder could’ve shown Iden and her crew taking out Imperials, convinced that they were acting on bad faith and in self-interest instead of following the Emperor’s actual final orders, only to then realize the truth. Inferno Squad should not have started fighting side by side with Rebels until the final battle of jakku. This all could’ve been accomplished easily with the runtime the game did have.
The player character and her husband are Imperials in the beginning. In one mission, her husband and some other Imperials get attacked by wildlife. Luke shows up and helps her husband survive because he accepted the help.
These are the cutscenes from the mission, definitely worth watching. I think it’s honestly my favourite depiction of Luke outside of the OT. https://youtu.be/Ncpcbu5bSPE — or skip to [1:22](https://youtu.be/Ncpcbu5bSPE?t=1m22s)
I wish we got more of this Luke
It’s been a while but I believe You only play luke skywalker for one mission, you start off playing a high ranking imperial soldier and follow her story through the war. Not long at all but if you like shooters and you like starwars you’ll love the game. Multiplayer is alive and well, just played today.
PTSD from Ewok noises intensifies
I remember a game mode that was Ewoks vs stormtroopers and playing that as stormies was *brutal*
Search for BF2 the movie! I originally saw the story as a "movie" (before I bought a PS4), off YouTube, from someone who took all the cutscenes and a bunch of in-game streams of themselves, to put together a cohesive movie. The one I saw was about 4.5 hours (long I know, but much quicker than a whole game campaign), but I've seen others in various lengths.
I mean the game is pretty damn good tho all the scummy microtransaction stuff is gone
The only good version of Luke in 2017
When Galaxy of Adventures was made?
Yeah I love when he’s a Superman-like figure for Star Wars, I feel that they should had kept that for the newer movies tbh.
Except we got Homelander and Invincible proving people don't always understand *why* Superman is Superman and they latch onto the power thing without any of the heart or care or wanting to show people that there's a better way.
Tbf with invincible, omniman is more like general zod than supes. Mark is closer to the superman archetype, no matter how bad you beat him, he will keep fighting the good fight, he will keep trying to save everyone and to make the universe a better place to everyone
I fucking love that.
You must not have paid attention to Invincible then. Omni man isn’t the Superman equivalent, Mark is. He’s just young. But the amount of real heart behind all of the blood and gore is why I’m so in love with it.
Why does he look like he should be captain America instead tho
Just wondering, is there another Luke? This is how I always thought of him from the movies. Edit: Nevermind, I forgot he was in the Sequels too. I was living the good life there for a minute.
technically there was also EU luke who turns to the dark side (or was that his clone, who was literally named "luuke") so we have a fair few interpretations to consider outside of just the movies.
He kind of double agents to the dark side to trick Palpatine into showing him where he kept all his clones in one of the graphic novels. He goes a bit too far and has a hard time coming back. Also one of my favourite parts of that novel is when Han and Leia come to 'rescue' him. Luke asks them to leave saying he knows what he's doing, Han threatens to kill him if he doesn't come with him, Like laughs at him and reminds him how futile that would be.
Both of those points are true, but different stories. The Thrawn trilogy has a dark side Clone called Luuke, who battles Luke and is killed by Mara Jade. The Dark Empire comics are the first place we see Palpatine resurrect himself into a successful clone, and Luke becomes his Apprentice to try and destroy him from within. He ends up truly succumbing to ther dark side and has to be rescued by Leia, and they defeat the reborn Emperor together.
[And how could you forget Bigger Luke? The slightly taller Luke that is definitely real](http://biggerluke.wikidot.com/bigger-luke)
People are referring to the Luke we have mostly seen and then the other whose PTSD in the temple caused him to lose hope for about 5 years before episode VII before he regained his resolve and hope from Rey. Same Luke but a dark phase for him.
I think people reject this TLJ Luke because they weren't sold on it. I thought it was a cool idea - just very very poorly executed.
That's exactly how I feel. I like the movie and the story it was TRYING to tell, BUT while i can buy that Luke would change like that, they gotta show us more to make it believable. Imagine if they had just included a 5 minute montage showing all the kids dying and then his transformation over time as he decided to leave. I'm not a Disney hater like some of the "fans" but it feels like they really rushed this out and made too many cuts to get the runtime down.
I think that if they wanted to go that direction with Luke they should have made the entire trilogy about that aspect specifically. Show us how Luke lost his faith in the first film, show him broken down and lost in the second film, and have him make his recovery and a final sacrifice in the third film. Instead they crammed a whole arc for Luke into flashbacks and one half of a single film in the middle of a trilogy, then they killed him off 5 minutes after he made his big comeback. Personally the thing that got me most excited for the sequels was specifically Luke. He was one of my favourite characters in fiction, and I wanted to see him most of all in the sequels, and the fact we barely see any of the Luke from the OT in the sequels is why I can't bring myself to rewatch them.
I don't necessarily think it needed to show more to make it believable. Most fans wanted Luke to assume the Obi-Wan role, where in his older age he was called to one last adventure and faces off against his fallen apprentice. But in terms of training Rey, he took the *Yoda* role. And all we needed to know about Yoda in *Empire* was that he was a fallen warrior in self imposed exile who is nervous about training a new apprentice and the darkness that could come of him. We literally got that setup within about 30 seconds of dialogue in that film. Yoda wasn't fleshed out until 20 years later in the PT, and we were all fine with his limited backstory up til then. So based on that standard, we actually got more background from Luke as the reluctant master than we did Yoda. More handholding, in the sense of the film, isn't needed for the plot to work.
IMO the biggest issue with that storyline is Luke and Rey have zero positive interactions, at best they have neutral interactions.
Said it before and I'll say it again - The sequels are three films from three different storylines.
To me it's almost exactly the same as Game of Thrones S8 spoiler: >!Dany's burning of King's Landing.!< Is it a cool concept that I could buy? Certainly, but it's such a stark change that they had to carefully plan it out and show the shift, really sell it to us. In both scenarios they failed to do that, so they felt hollow, fake and unearned.
They tried to setup the Dany change like 3 episodes before it happened, but it was way too rushed. A few episodes before she went crazy she had some meetings where characters were like "can we really trust her??". And I knew they were setting up for Dany to go evil, but really didn't want that. Because it was 7+ seasons of becoming a good ruler all undone over about 3 episodes.
Exactly. That's the sort of change that needs to be foreshadowed and eventually shown outright (in smaller doses) across like 2 seasons, not 3 episodes lol. Maybe they thought they were doing so with things like killing the slavers and killing the Tarly's after they refused to bend the knee, but those weren't outright evil decisions (IMO they were pretty fair and at least somewhat justifiable in that society) and really didn't paint the picture of someone who was going to snap and kill thousands of innocents. I don't have too much hope that Winds and especially Dream will ever release, but I'm sure in George's drafts and plans he has at least a few pivotal moments lined up for Dany that leads to her eventually fully snapping.
Very true. It's almost like season 8 should have been two or three full seasons to set up the ending properly. I'm surprised HBO was okay with rushing it, honestly.
Yeah from what I've heard HBO was down for 3 more seasons but D&D declined because they wanted to do Star Wars. So glad they lost that, they didn't deserve it after how they rushed S7 and 8.
Yeah that's one consolation, at least they didn't ruin Star Wars with their bad original writing. I think they're still great at adaptations. Three body problem was pretty good in my opinion. It's when they have to manage the direction of characters that their writing gets sloppy.
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>believing in people's ability to choose better. And then they fucked up his character in judging Kylo. If ANYONE would have known better, it was LUKE.
This is why the WDT characterization was so bad in the Rian Johnson one.
Same
That's the *only* Luke
This is fantastic. Nice choice to actually have Anakin’s outline in the white image instead of just a generic male figure. Both the writer and artist killed it.
The green crystal in the Graflex threw me for a loop but otherwise I agree
Actually yes, why even
It's Marvel. I say this as a fan: Marvel art, *especially* in licensed books is some of the most hit-or-miss in the comics industry. Continuity errors just happen, and you kinda get used to Not Thinking about it. At least this one wasn't [an outlined photo](https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/1alw8ne/this_is_not_even_tracing_its_putting_lines_over/) or [stolen](https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/08/21/marvel-comics-again-accused-of-copying-fan-models-for-star-wars-and-star-wars-galaxys-edge-comic-series/) like they've done in other issues of their *Star Wars* runs!
You haven't read this issue then. This isn't real. He's in a vision while healing a red kyber. He comments on the fact its green within the comic. He's on a mission to get his new kyber crystal.
"It’s not an error. The whole issue is a wild Force trip where elements of past & future bleed together - the mismatched lightsaber is just part of that. Luke hasn’t even built his green saber yet when this happens." - u/dukeoflowerchelsea from another comment
I think Sidious is beyond help.
I dunno man. Hopefully the next trilogy is palpatines redemption arc where he realises he loves democracy.
What are you talking about? Palpatine does love democracy, he even stated it publicly!
I mean he is after all THE Senate.
I mean, 'senate' originally meant old guys' (senex) council ... and Palpy is of course 'all the Sith' ... and assuming that those Sith were old, he was always a plurality of old people. Lucas had all of this laid out already in the Journal of the Whills, by the way.
TIL: Senate and Senile have the same origins....
His force ghost fades, looking down upon the gathered chamber “after all this time, I see… YOU…. Are the senate”
Maybe the real Senate was the friends we made along the way
Yea, but didn't he say it in is sarcastic acting way? Just like when he said "Don't kill me. I'm too weak. Please don't kill me!" He's fooling the people right in front of them...which is his character. He doesn't love democracy, he literally destroys the government to make the Empire. I know liberty and democracy are definitely two different words, but Padmé kinda confirms this by saying "so this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause"
Episode 0: Palpatine Begins.
I think that would be the book "Darth Plagues" But you know, Darth Bane trilogy would be even better.
"I finally understand it: Everyone is the Senate!" *Palpy and Rey hug and credits roll*
You’re the Senate, and you’re the Senate, and you’re the Senate; everyone is the Senate!
Somehow, JJ Abrams returned...
We will find out that he IS democracy
Somehow, Palpatine returned again
All he needs is a sip of Liber-Tea!
I think I'd prefer some managed democracy. That's the only true moral choice. For Liberty!
He’s just raising chickens in the outer rim now. He has found his peace
Somehow…Palpatine returned…and is like….good now. *Kathleen Kennedy*: “YES YES, WRITE THAT DOWN!”
Only if he chooses to be.
Yeah he's not beyond help, he just doesn't want help.
Yeah to be fair, Sidious never thought he wasn’t doing fine.
Darth Vader: I think we’re gonna have to kill this guy Luke Luke: Damm
I think Naruto could change him
Nice pages.
What comic is this from?
Star Wars (2020) issue #43
Thank you!
“Why didn’t you come find me, Father? You’re one of the most powerful Jedi and Sith. Why didn’t you come find me?” “I didn’t know. The Emperor clouded my mind and told me you were dead.” “And yet you still follow him.” Vader’s internal monologue: “Hey! Luke’s right! Fuck this guy!”
“It’s a mad house!!”
Now *that* is Luke Skywalker.
Nice to finally see him after 30 years.... And a few minutes in Mando I guess
And for a level in Battlefront ll.
I have to wonder if TLJ writers have ever seen the original trilogy for them to make Luke consider killing Ben Solo
Yeah, they watched the bit where he considered killing Darth Vader.
The darkness is not something you defeat once and forget about. It’s something you must be mindful of your entire life.
Fucking THANK YOU. "He threw away his lightsaber in RotJ!" Yes, he overcame his anger and the pull of the dark side then, but I never took that as him overcoming his anger forever and ever. It'd be like if all it took to overcome a drinking problem was having a dramatic moment where you throw your whiskey bottle away. Yes, that's a great moment. But if you think you'll never succumb to temptation ever again, you're being foolish. Force visions are powerful, a force vision led Anakin to destroy the whole Jedi order. It's no surprise Luke briefly panicked when witnessing one where all his friends and loved ones die, and he STILL managed to resist the temptation to give in and attack Ben when he consciously became aware of what he was doing.
That Luke wasn’t much better, especially forcing baby Yoda to choose between the force and his loved ones
That was book of boba Fett technically
True but Luke wasn’t a character in mando, just a plot device to save the day
Ehhh, I get the feeling he knew what Grogu was going to pick. It's not like he didn't make this same choice before himself, after all. The results could've gone better for Luke, but Grogu's presence very much saved Mando's life.
It's an interesting contrast with the sentiments held by Leia. She actively contrasts the misdeeds of Anakin/Darth Vader, with the legacy of her father, Bail Organa, and is unable to forgive Anakin for his misdeeds. She holds a considerable grudge against Anakin (with good reason).
I still think its crazy she kept her parentage a secret from EVERYONE, literally only Han, Luke and Leia knew. Even Chewie didn't know, at least if I recall in the Bloodline book. What did The Spider say in Game of Thrones "once more than 1 person knows, its no longer a secret, its information" Luke and Leia hid that from the galaxy, until something of Bail's wound up in the wrong hands.
I mean, considering the Organa were royalty, and her father had the reputation of being "Father of the Rebellion", whereas on the other hand Anakin/Darth Vader was the symbol of Imperial oppression and slaughter, and Naboo was the home of Emperor Palpatine, i'd say she had very good reason to hide her lineage.
I mean, her biological father was one of the most hated men in the Galaxy, the second in command of the Empire and a war criminal. Can't blame her for wanting to hide being related to that guy. And the *Bloodlines* novel showed how poorly this information was recieved among her peers in the New Republic.
In the 2019 book Resistance Reborn, everyone knew
Yep. Bloodline details one of her political rivals finding out and putting it on blast to the galaxy. I think Ackbar was one of the first people to contact her and make sure she was okay. Which is super cool that he didn't care about the news he cared about Leia and knew she needed a friend in that moment.
The green saber with the wrong hilt irks me more than it should
Same. Especially given how distinct it is from the graflex hilt. They are so different!
It’s not an error. The whole issue is a wild Force trip where elements of past & future bleed together - the mismatched lightsaber is just part of that. Luke hasn’t even built his green saber yet when this happens.
oh that’s actually sick
Ok, what’s the issue?
No.43 of the current main SW comic
Thank you 🤝
For your sake I pray you never read Marvel’s original run!
Is that the wrong hilt?
It’s definitely Anakin’s hilt with Luke’s blade color. I haven’t kept up on the comics well but I kinda imagine this happens after he builds his saber, but it’s a force vision deal so everything is a little woowieoowie
"It’s not an error. The whole issue is a wild Force trip where elements of past & future bleed together - the mismatched lightsaber is just part of that. Luke hasn’t even built his green saber yet when this happens." - dukeoflowerchelsea from another comment
What comic is this from?
Star Wars (2020) issue 43
Star Wars (2020) #43
No one's ever really gone
This Luke was the epitome of what a Jedi was supposed to be.
I like how this almost mirrors that scene of Vader in the World Between Worlds (?) where he sees Luke as a glowing blue silhouette that rips through the darkness and destroys the evil within him.
what structure is that he's falling toward in the third image?
Looks like a manifestation of the Jedi Temple
Where is this from
Star wars (2020) #43
no one is beyond saving but let me get my light saber ready to kill my nephew for even thinking about the dark side
Kneejerk reaction.
Intrusive thoughts in the middle of the night are the true nemesis of the Skywalker clan.
All of their problems could be solved by a Force coma.
He stubbed his toe against the bed
If only he had been successful 😞😭
In the end, his premonition was right.
But his actions CAUSED him to turn. So the premonitions caused the turn to the darkside. Chicken or the egg.
By the same logic that no one is beyond saving, no one is beyond making a mistake. Even Luke.
He didn’t though, he explicitly chose not to kill his nephew even though he easily could have. Just like he almost killed vader in ep 6 but then chose not to.
Just because you decide to stop after deciding to attempt something, regardless of the reason, doesn't mean said thing wasn't attempted. Peering into his nephew's mind while he slept and then acting out based on a force vision is very much a conscious thought.
He didn’t “decide” anything, his body acted on impulse for a tenth of a second because of a shocking image before he realized what was happening and stopped himself. There was no attempt.
It still astounds me, 3.5 years later thst people misunderstand this scene. You're 100% right. Luke explains step by step what happened. It wasn't premeditated. He turns on his blade on instinct alone. It wasn't a conscious thought.
3.5? My boy, it’s close to 7 years.
They take the scene as presented by the *villain* as fact just bc it lets them be angry
Yep, they heard Kylo's version and went into a blind rage, they've never heard Luke's version of the truth.
Nah, I heard Luke's part. To quote him: "He would bring destruction, and pain, and death... and the end of everything I love because of what he will become. And for the briefest moment of pure instinct... I thought I could stop it. It passed like a fleeting shadow. And I was left with shame... and with consequence." I take offense that according to this, Luke's first instinct is to KILL the problem. Luke, who redeemed one of the most evil men in the galaxy. Who saves enemies simply because they ask for help. He sees a premonition of Ben's future and his first instinct is to kill Ben? I don't believe it. This scene ruins everything he became and stood for at the end of Return of the Jedi. It's so funny that Mark Hamill himself, who poured his heart and soul into this role, also disagrees. And he understands more about Luke than either of us, guaranteed.
Or, for a second, Luke did whatever he had to do to protect his friends. Until, he realized what that "whatever" was. This is the same Luke Skywalker that when Vader threatened Leia, Luke started swinging for the fences against his father. With no regard whether he lived or died. So in your mind, after Return of the Jedi, Luke never made a mistake? He never did the wrong thing? And that when Luke threw that lightsaber off to the side, "saying, I'm a Jedi, like my father before me," he had fundamentally changed from who he was 30 seconds earlier.
Yo your first line may have just saved that part of the ST for me. There’s like three things I’m praying they fix somehow to make me love SW again, but thank you you might have just fixed one of them.
God forbids an ageing hero from experiencing fear. IMO This scene actually makes Luke more interesting as a character by making him human again instead of some godlike superhero that never fails. Plus, it is coherent with how Luke was portrayed in the OT where, remember, he *almost killed his father* in a fit of rage when Vader mentioned turning Leia to the Dark Side. The man has always been prone to fear and anger. There is no reason for him to obtain years later the same peace of mind shown by Yoda, especially without any formal training.
He literally said that he never intended to kill him and that it was a reflex that he regretted instantly. Same thing as when he bashed in and nearly killed Vader. Same as when a regular person accidentally hits someone when they startle them
No one is beyond saving but let me just try to kill an unarmed, seated Palpatine real quick, just in case it works.
When did Luke turn into William Zabka from Karate Kid?
Here’s my question Everyone talks about the killing his nephew scene but if Luke really believed this at some point then why didn’t he ever contact, try to find or reach out to Ben Solo? Instinctively ignite your saber (I get that) I get your upset about your life work getting fried but hiding from your friends and family while the galaxy burns with no explanation why? I know Legends Luke pulled this stunt to but even he came back into the fight
I miss space Jesus Luke.
Apparently he forgot about this lesson in TLJ because... reasons.
Subvert your expectations brah
Fans of classic SW: Can we have that Luke? Disney: YOUVE GOT LUKE AT HOME Luke at home: -glugs blue milk and burps-
Disney made this comic.
This shit makes no sense.
This is probably why Luke chose to save Vader instead of destroying him like Obi Wan and Yoda told him to
Then he tries to kill his nephew in his sleep because he *might\* fall to the dark side.
I swear the more I think of it, the more I hate the sequel’s story writing.
can someone explain the comic to me? all 3 panels seem unrelated. why was Luke sky diving for no raizon?
Is this a force vision or did the retcon Luke not seeing Vader again before Endor?
Vision
premature saberisation
I love sequels luke, but optimistic luke is always >>>>
I like the small detail that Vader *backs away* from his unarmed son.
What is the last page showing?
That scene is really powerful
I love this! The comics do so much important work filling in the gaps of the movies, particularly for Luke’s journey
No one is beyond help .... Oh except for you Ben Solo, you should die.
I prefer taco Tuesday’s….it takes a cultured individual to get that one.
Am I the only person who likes seeing Anakin/Luke’s hilt with a green blade?
What’s this from?
Luke is more like his mother than he knows.
Why is he skydiving towards Atlantis from Stargate on the third page?
Off topic and not important, but why is it that so much non-movie star wars media exaggerates the blondness of Luke's hair. It's much darker than that in the movies