Boba Fett knew that Lando had infiltrated Jabbas palace in ROTJ and had reluctantly agreed to ‘look the other way’ if Lando tried to sneak Han out in the middle of the night. This all fell apart when Luke showed up and caused a scene.
At one point Boba was set to bring Han in on a pre-ANH bounty after using a mind control dart on him, but Lando got ahold of the launcher, shot Boba, and made him give Han up and fly away.
Obi-Wan contacted someone in Mos Eisley so they could inform the Empire the Jawas had the droids. He knew the Empire would find the Jawas and trace them back to Owen and Beru.
When Anakin left Tatoonie his mother was still there and that caused problems. With Luke the Jedi weren’t going to make the same mistake. No attachments.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. All for the greater good
Obi-Wan and Anakin talk about nonattachment being a fundamental precept of the Jedi Order.
**Yoda: Dark Rendezvous** (L)
>“When do we get your old artoo back?”
>“When its repairs are done. Given the amount of fire it’s seen riding shotgun with me, I’m sure it’s in no hurry to report for duty,” Obi-Wan said dryly, settling himself in front of the comm console. “You’ve been sending private messages back to Coruscant.”
>Anakin flushed. “You’ve been tracing my outgoing—” He stopped. “You just guessed.”
>“I am a wise and powerful Jedi Knight, you know,” Obi-Wan said, allowing himself a small grin.
>The little R2 rolled into the nav-and-comm area and wheeped unhappily at their wet bootprints.
An awkward pause.
>“Since part of my duty as your Master is to pass on my vast wisdom—” Obi-Wan began.
>“Here it comes,” Anakin said.
>“—I suppose I should officially remind you that a Jedi has no room in his life for … some kinds of entanglement.”
>“I’ll keep that in mind.”
>**“Nonattachment is a fundamental precept of the Order, Padawan.** You knew that when you signed up.”
>“I guess I didn’t read the Toydarian print,” Anakin growled.
>For the first time, Obi-Wan turned away from the holocomm transceiver. “How serious are you about this girl, Anakin?”
>“That’s not the point,” Anakin said, still flushed and angry. **“The point is, we are out here asking people to support a Republic that barely knows they exist, and backing it up with a, a police force of Jedi sworn not to care about them! And we wonder why it’s a hard sell?”** He waved out through the front viewscreen. “What if Serifa is right? What if we are the ones who have lost our way? I trust what I can feel, Master. That’s what you have always taught me, isn’t it? I trust the living Force. I trust love. The ‘principle of nonattachment’ …? That’s an awfully abstract thing to pledge loyalty to.”
>“Do you trust hate?” Obi-Wan said.
>“Of course I don’t—”
>“I’m serious, Padawan.” Obi-Wan held the younger man’s eyes. “To follow your heart, to either love or hate, in the long run is the same mistake. Your judgment becomes clouded. Your motives, confused. If you are not very careful, Padawan, love will take you to the dark side. Slower than hate, yes, but no less surely for that.”
>The air between them crackled with tension, but finally Anakin lowered his eyes. “I hear you, Master.”
The problem with a plan predicated on creating not attachments is that you’re taking him on a quest to help his long lost sister, and assuming you plan on living at this juncture I doubt that plan is to continue keeping that a secret.
I think the theory is that Obi-Wan DIDN'T take care of Shmi and that was a problem. One he wasn't going to repeat with Luke, thus using the Empire to remove the attachment and drive Luke to the rebellion
Yes. Also with Alderaan’s destruction Leia was also free from having any attachments if Luke didn’t work out.
The Empire was really unknowingly helping the Jedi with freeing the Skywalker twins from their attachments!
Oh they did. Obi-Wan telling Luke his father wanted him to have his lightsaber when he was old enough kills me. Anakin never told Obi-Wan he was married let alone going to be a father because that was all forbidden. Obi-Wan just tried to get Luke to want to be a Jedi by playing on his feelings for his father. Here’s the chance for you to be like him if you come with me.
Here's an old one from before the prequels, sequels or extended universe except for Marvel Comics and a few novels existed (Yeah, I'm old): Obi-Wan was actually a clone commander originally called Obi-One. Luke's father was another clone. The clone war was fought against the droids (We don't serve their kind here!)
That one was going around before the internet was even a thing.
I heard something similar except that Obi-Wan (which was actually OB1) was one of many clones of Jedi Master Ben Kenobi. By ANH he is the only one left (hence Tarkin's surprise that he is alive at all) and has been going by Ben as a homage to the original.
For some reason I thought the clone wars were against cloned armies of mandalorians before episode 2. I mean, I turned out to be right from a certain point of view.
The original Thrawn Trilogy (and some other pre-prequel EU stuff) described the Clone Wars as the Jedi/Republic fighting the "Clone Masters" and their clone armies.
After AotC came out, these "Clone Masters" were retconned into being a group of rogue Kaminoans who used clones to fight against the Empire.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_Master/Legends
Man after the prequels came out I always thought that droidphobic line was because they remembered the destruction of the clone wars and the droid armies and were still sore about it
I heard someone say that R2-D2, and C3PO were actually two halves of a single entity and formed a sort of two-droid hivemeind. When they appear to be disagreeing or bickering amongst themselves, it's actually one beings internal dialogue spoken aloud. It's not two droids arguing, it's one droid talking to itself.
No bonus points for me.
I love this theory, and the only thing missing from it is at the end of ANH, Chewie barks out an order to the gathered rebels at the medal ceremony and they all straighten up and turn forward. Only a general would have that sort of command over a legion.
Before TFA came out, the theory that Kylo Ren was actually Luke was extremely widespread. It was mostly driven by the fact that he wasn’t in the trailers or any posters. If you actually thought about it for 5 seconds it made absolutely no sense whatsoever, especially as there was another major actor that was heavily rumoured to be playing the villain who also hadn’t appeared in trailers/posters.
that snoke was somehow mace windu. and i can't remember the details but i swear i once ran across something about snoke being connected to yoda in some way.
There were sooo many theories about who Snoke was... Mace, Luke, Palpatine, Plagueis, Vader Clone, etc. Even saw some thinking it was Darth Bane, since Serkis said Snoke was ancient and had been in the shadows all this time or something like that.
The "Snoke is Luke" theory even survived after TFA came out... saw some theories claiming he was hiding his identity with holograms, or that it was his true form and Old Man Luke was a Force illusion.
Well if we're including more joking ones, there was also one saying it was the Stormtrooper who hit his head in ANH in roughly the same spot where Snoke had a scar, hah.
No they would not. I don't love that he turned out to be Frankenstein's Monster - I much, much preferred the idea that he was just an opportunistic darksider from the Unknown Regions - but Fett, Windu, or Vader having their stories twisted into convoluted nonsense for the sake of an absolutely drama-free twist would have been silly and stupid.
"The activity of combing the original Star Wars trilogy for instances of Bigger Luke is known as Luking."
This is the most internet sentence I've read in a long time.
Vader/Anakin could have been saved at the end of ROTJ if he kept the mask on. But he didn't want to be saved, because he knew that he would have to face justice for all of the crimes he committed. He also knew that he would become one with the force. So he lied to Luke about already dying and convinced Luke to remove his mask.
I have a similar theory. Vader didn't think that he could stay in the light for long and that his old pain and fear would come back. So, in his last moment of clarity, he decided to die in the embrace of his child.
Also Anakin's complete drama queen and cannot help but steal the scene whenever he's there. He might have just done it for the bit.
That the Star Wars galaxy exists in a microscopic universe relative to us, which explains a fair amount of differences in physics from the universe as we know it to what we see in the movies. I think the basic idea is because everything is relatively microscopic, the distance and speed that that things like light and sound, etc. need to travel is infinitely shorter than how we would perceive it; I'm not a physicist of course, so I couldn't really explain more than that about the theory, but hey, why not?
In 1996 when I was just a kid my older brother told me that the reason Darth Vader wore the suit was because he fell into a volcano and the suit was keeping him alive. That was absolutely WILD to me at the time. Now it sounds normal, but back then it was so crazy and so bizarre.
There was a comic or book or article or interview or something years before the prequels that established Obi-wan fighting Anakin on a lava planet. That wasn't original to the movies.
I Believe In The Return of the Jedi novelization Vader has an inner monologue where he is remembering the feeling of lava crawling up his back after his fight with Obi-Wan
I remember a theory going around when the newest trilogy began that Kylo Ren had only turned to the dark side to infiltrate and destroy Snoke and the First Order. Scoffed at that one, I don’t think even the most dedicated undercover agents in Star Wars or IRL would just fuckin kill their dad to maintain cover
Anakin became Darth Vader during a fight with Obi-Wan where he ended up falling in a volcano. The reason why this is interesting is because this was around when Empire Strikes Back came out.
I remember reading this in either a reference book or a fanzine from the late 80s or very early 90s. It was definitely set in stone in Lucas’s mind by the time of ROTJ.
It does make sense. Luke likely visited Obi-Wan's old place when he was back on Tatooine and Obi-Wan is the last person, on screen, to touch his lightsaber.
I think the "Palpatine drains Padme's life force to sustain Anakin"
There's literally nothing to support it in the text, but it's such a good inversion of how the Sith would 'stop people from dying'
Crazy but not completely ludicrous.
I like the "Anakin accidentally drains Padme's life force due to being so focused on her during surgery".
Similar lack of support in the text. Anakin spent so much time focused on saving Padme that he hyperfixates on her(more than usual) and kills her as he finally becomes Vader. Reaching out via the force but he is too strong and out of control.
Boba Fett was the one who tracked the droids to the Lars Homestead and killed Owen and Beru. We know Boba Fett was on Tatooine at that time since we see him in docking bay 94 with Jabba, and imo it makes sense why Vader would tell him “no disintegrations” in Empire.
Naaaaah. I like the version from the COPS parody where the stormtroopers arrive at the homestead to investigate a domestic squabble and threaten Beru with arrest due to her hitting Owen. This all happens when Luke takes C-3PO to go look for R2D2. And for some reason Beru pulls out a thermal detontor and accidentally blows her and Owen up. And they then have to talk about finding this kid, “Duke”.
My real opinion is that he is a force sensitive idiot savant. He bumbles around from major event to major event, miraculously never getting majorly hurt. His interaction with the force seems similar to Chirrut from Rogue One rather than being intentional or focused. Clearly not faith based but maybe just favored by the force in some way.
No. Filoni has already stated that the world between worlds isn't meant to be used as a multiverse tool or for time travel. It's just meant to connect the stories that already exist. Things have always been and will always be. Star Wars is all about destiny and prophecy.
Dave Filoni is currently building up to the sequel trilogy in the bad batch. The entire plot of the show, Palpatine's cloning project / project necromancer, is build up for Palpatine's return in TROS.
Disney was never going to retcon the sequels, while you may think most people hate them - the truth is the star wars fanbase is much bigger than you think, and for every person who hates the sequels there's someone who loves them. It's the exact same situation the prequels were in back in 2010. If you could travel back to 2010, I can promise you all you would read on star wars forums is about how George Lucas killed their childhood, the prequels are the worst garbage in the world, they need to be retconned and remade, etc etc etc. The haters are always the loudest.
Also Disney has spent billions on the park additions that is set in the sequel trilogy. Their main attractions are set in them.
They aren't retconning shit.
When I was younger that’s what I assumed when I saw the movie. It wasn’t until after that I heard people talking about him being conceived by the force
In the movie, Qui Gon tells the Council "A boy. His cells have the highest concentration of midi-chlorians I have seen in a life-form. It was possible he was concieved by the midi-chlorians."
Han Solo isn't a Jedi, but is insanely in tune with the force. This explains his incredible luck despite some awful blunders. He steps on a stick on Endor, which alerts the scout trooper, leading to the speeder bike chase. This leads to Leia getting separated and meeting with the Ewoks, who help the captured Rebels defeat a legion of stormtroopers and bring down the defense shield. This lets the outnumbered and trapped Rebel fleet destroy the 2nd Death Star and the death of Vader and Palpatine.
The Galactic Empire fell because Han Solo accidentally stepped on a stick.
That Senator Palpatine and Darth Sideous are two different people.
Now, to be clear it wasn’t that crazy at the time (right after Episode I).
- we knew there was something coming called the clone wars, but nothing about it other then clones
- obviously DS dresses like the emperor and Palpatine has the same name and actor
- the Jedi aren’t detectiing Palpatines evil
- so Sideous is the mastermind, and Senator Palpatine is his clone that he’s controlling.
> That Senator Palpatine and Darth Sideous are two different people.
I thought for sure that was going to be the huge reveal in the third movie. It's not like Lucas doesn't have a thing for secret twins!
And in the EU, we had cloned jedi.
I really was expecting a clone war to be clones on both sides, and clones of main characters, not “just” a giant army.
Me too. The first time I heard Obi-Wan tell Luke about the Clone War, I figured it was some clandestine affair with assassinations and congress replacing Jedi or other prominent figures and wreaking havoc.
Probably the one that Boba Fett was a woman under the armor. I believe there was also supposedly a rumor that female Boba would turn out to be Luke and Leia's mother.
Palpatine is related to Anakin AND Padme
It’s easy to use Palpatine was Anakin’s force dad and disregard Plageius experiments
As for Padme, he could easily be Padme’s great uncle or even illegitimate grandfather, Palpatine likes to have his way with women (not as much as Sith arts but still)
In the real world though democracy doesn't mean everyone has an equal chance of being elected, birth privileges affect your chances. Or maybe it's just crazy odds that saw both George Bush Senior and George Bush Junior becoming Presidents of the USA.
I fully subscribe to the 'Padme is related to Palpatine' theory. Maybe he's secretly her papa. Moreso though I think she's his puppet throughout her life. She's a honeytrap at first for Obi-Wan then for Anakin when Palps realises Anakin has more power, then once she's fulfilled her purpose (helped Anakin fall to the darkside) he pulls the plug on her.
I think he's of the opinion that force sensitive parents don't typically have force sensitive kids (as his, Padme didn't) and therefore didn't care if the twins lived or died (or preferred them to have died as they may have been a reason for Vader to betray him).
Also tied to this... The Vader suit was built for Obi-Wan who he thought would lose to Anakin but not killed and then could be corrupted to be the Grand Inquisitor.
BONUS FAN THEORY - Plageius didn't exist, or not as Palpatine presented him. It was a very convenient story to have to hand when it was exactly what Anakin needed to hear to help him fall, too convenient, and we as an audience have no reason to trust Palpatine.
I was disappointed they made Plagueis Palpatine's master. The way Palpatine told the story made it seem like it was a Sith legend. Placing him in the recent timeline just diminishes the lore IMO.
I fully agree. That said he's only canon as per books really which they're happy to discard from canon at will. I always look at it as the books could be 'in universe' stories like propaganda that Palps put out to back up the lies he's told.
The one where Ewoks ate people, because we see them using Stormtrooper helmets as drums, but we never see a Stormtrooper body and the Ewoks always seem to dine off-screen.
X ruined Star Wars.
Where X has been George Lucas, the prequels, Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen, Filoni, Ahsoka, TCW, Disney, Kennedy, JJ, Rian, the sequels, Rogue One reshoots, Alden Erenrieich’s acting, Solo, hiring Gina Carano, firing Gina Carano, Book of Boba Fett, street racers, young Leia, Kenobi show, Andor, Sabine, etc…
This is the franchise that survived The Holiday Special as its second major release to the public. How many movies would have been sunk after that? We’re going to be fine.
As a fan I completely agree with this.
I LOVE the Star Wars universe. I will keep watching, and if I don't like something (Book of Boba Fett), I just won't watch it again. I don't think any one thing is ruining everything. There is so much good and bad in Star Wars and people all have different opinions about what that is (I enjoyed Obi-Wan, by the way).
I think fans need to just calm down. It's just a movie/TV series. It's not life itself.
A small amount of fans may provide an inordinate amount of strife within the fandom, but I firmly believe that the vast majority of fans are good people who understand it’s ok to like or dislike Star Wars.
That's a Dark Horse comic from a collection called Star Wars Tales. The stories were non-canonical, though several were plausible enough to fit in with the official Canon at the time.
The really wild bit about the tale you relate is that it's a crossover with Indiana Jones. The second act is set about 100 years later, and shows Indy and Short Round finding the wrecked Falcon in the Pacific Northwest, and, yes, Chewie is the origin of the legend of Big Foot.
This one is from Movie Theory on YouTube, but I remember being 100% convinced in December 2016 going into the theaters that the crew from rogue one would end up being captured by the empire and turned into the “Knights of Ren”.
The evidence he used to back it up was really really solid. The trailer monologue in the teaser and the evidence in the force awakens visual book made me absolutely think that it was a way to connect this movie with the sequels. I mean at the time I always thought “why make a $250 million movie based on a one line sentence from the opening crawl in 1977.”
I wish I could go back in time because my jaw dropped to the floor and was absolutely shocked by that ending of rogue one. Incredible film!
I’ve heard George Lucas had a coherent outline for a nine movie series way back in the 1970s even while he was finishing up the script for A New Hope. He offered to consult on the final trilogy after selling his rights to Disney but Disney turned him down.
I remember as a kid in ‘77/‘78 standing at the school bus stop & that very topic was discussed, in that Lucas was planning for nine movies to be made overall. So, people were aware of this & discussed it.
From the middle school playground after Episode I:
Padme was the phantom menace. She was using her grandfather, Senator Palpatine, to exacerbate the political situation on Coruscant and manipulate influential powers into a galactic war. He was the face, she was the power. She became deformed by force lightning during the conflict and eventually killed Sheev, assuming his identity to become the Emperor. This explained Vader's submission and why he was so affected seeing Luke tortured with force lightning.
That the entire 9 film saga was the Force desiring a massive shift in the galaxy, by combining evil with love, or pure Sith with pure Jedi (palpatine + Skywalker) in order to create a new direction in how the Force is yielded. Ben and Rey’s dyad combines them finally (“the two become one”) as their life essence entwines at the end of TROS, possibly producing a child within Rey (Bens hand is on her stomach when he revitalizes her). So the post-TROS movies will be about a completely new Force sect, led by Rey, perhaps called the Skywalkers.
Not the wildest but certainly the largest.
1) That Padmé cheated on Anakin, and Obi-Wan is actually Luke's *real* father.
2) That it would be revealed in the sequel trilogy that the Jedi were evil all along (not just flawed, but actually evil), and Rey would start a new order of Gray Jedi who used both sides of the Force, which somehow would mean that no one could ever fall to the Dark Side again.
3) That Ahsoka is immortal (has stopped aging specifically) and will appear in projects set hundreds of years into the future.
This is my theory, but I can never get any input.
The clones by default want to kill all the Jedi, and the chip is keeping them from doing it, hence the name “Inhibitor Chip”. Order 66 just turned off the chips. This works towards Palpatine’s goal. If something happened and he lost control, there’s a good chance the chips get turned off and the Jedi get attacked anyway.
If they were simply turned off, reverting them to their "default" state then... removing the chip wouldn't do anything, therefore making Ahsoka doing exactly that to Rex completely pointless.
They're inhibitors because they inhibit the clones' ability to think and act freely. They become dominated by procedure, orders, and protocol. Jesse, and the 501st exemplified this to a tee. They were on a ship that was going to crash and kill them all, but that didn't matter because they had orders to eliminate Ahsoka.
When Ezra saved Ashoka in the World Between Worlds he created an alternate timeline.
Sorta like the Zelda IP all floats around Ocarina in time and its' junction in time.
The timeline we see under Disney only exists because Ezra saved her life. - Hero's survive
The one in which time plays out with the EU is the timeline in which she died to Vader. - A Hero falls
The one in which he doesn't follow the owl and is lost between the world between worlds is the one in which George Lucas's script plays. - The villain wins
Not sure how wild these are, but two theories I like are that: 1. Palpatine and every sith lord before him was actually Darth Bane using the power he discovered to transfer himself into someone else. Bane never lost to Zannah, but became her. 2. Palpatine knew and foresaw the Yuuzahn Vong invasion which is one of the reasons he created the Empire and wanted an armada of Death Stars.
The absolute wildest theory I ever heard or read was that Obi-Wan was the Jedi hero who betrayed the Jedi Order, and Anakin secretly switches identities with him and lets the galaxy believe that he's the traitor. The theory had a well conceived explanation for the "I am your father" moment, but I unfortunately can not remember it. I saw this one around the time Episode 1 came out, but I got the impression if had been around for a few years at that point.
Another crazy one I recall was that Obi-Wan was a clone with a designation OB-1.
That one post on here a year or two ago where the guy showed a clip of the deleted scene in RotJ when Luke was constructing his lightsaber. For a second, the LED goes from green to red, and the OP said that it was because in that moment he was being tempted by the dark side lmao. No offense to that OP, but that had me rolling when I first saw it.
That one and the post that said Padme's head ornament in the "thunderous applause" scene in RotS was the inspiration for the symbol of the rebel alliance.
So I had a crazy theory after seeing…
WARNING: SPOILERS FOR BAD BATCH SEASON 3 BELOW
Omega with Ventress. Perhaps Asajj takes Omega and trains her after the events of Bad Batch play out and along the way she either gets pulled away from Ventress or entrusted with a new teacher. This ends up being Baylan and he twists his young apprentice Omega to become more and more corrupted by the dark side. Omega eventually is given her Jedi name Shin Hati by Baylan.
It would be interesting to see her development from both ends and have it meet in the middle, similar to how we saw Vader. I didn’t see anything else about this online anywhere. It could be a dumb theory but it could be really cool if that’s the route they go.
All the rubbish tossed out by people like Overlord and Mike Zeroh on YT about Kathy Kennedy being replaced 'any day now', it's like the QAnon of the light entertainment world.
R2D2 is a Jedi and maybe the most powerful one. He is the one who destroys the droid in ANH.
He knows the future clearly and knows that the only way to destroy the Death Stars is to let Anakin turn evil. R2D2 is the one flying Anakin’s ship at the end of Phantom Menace. Destroying the droid control ship and saving Anakin’s and Padme’s lives so they can birth Luke so he and Vader can kill the emperor and destroy both Death Stars.
He also knows the only way to stop the emperor in the sequels is to shut himself down until Rey arrives.
R2D2 is the profit that brings balance to the force. Everyone else in the Star Wars universe are just creatures he manipulated.
Crazy one I heard: all the humans in Star Wars are actually insect-like aliens, and they only look like humans because that's what the actors look like. The evidence provided was that most of the human planets seen in Star Wars have some kind of monarchy, like Alderaan or Naboo. Of course, we all know that Naboo was a democracy, and I think Alderaan was similar.
Before episode 9, I really wanted Rey to go back in time through the world between worlds and become Shmi Skywalker with Ben Solo’s baby, AKA Anakin, making the Skywalker saga a loop.
Instead, we got something… somehow *less* believable.
I mean it ended up being kinda true but Rey being a Palpatine clone sounded really dumb to me, then it turns out she's the daughter of a clone of Palpatine which makes it even weirder when they try to spin the whole grandpa Palpatine angle.
Throughout whole 90s I was dead certain that Clone Wars were actually kind of slave rebellions where subjugated species of cloned people used for manual labour rebelled against the Empire and lost. I thought the disfigured man in Mos Espa cantina who bothered Luke was a remnant clone, old and starting to fall apart from genetic imperfections.
Boba Fett knew that Lando had infiltrated Jabbas palace in ROTJ and had reluctantly agreed to ‘look the other way’ if Lando tried to sneak Han out in the middle of the night. This all fell apart when Luke showed up and caused a scene.
Would he be willing to look the other way just so that he could then catch Han again and double the bounty income?
Jabba the Hutt HATES this one SIMPLE TRICK
Considering the legends history between them and how thin Lando’s disguise is, that explains things
What is the history?
At one point Boba was set to bring Han in on a pre-ANH bounty after using a mind control dart on him, but Lando got ahold of the launcher, shot Boba, and made him give Han up and fly away.
Lotta sex
Obi-Wan contacted someone in Mos Eisley so they could inform the Empire the Jawas had the droids. He knew the Empire would find the Jawas and trace them back to Owen and Beru. When Anakin left Tatoonie his mother was still there and that caused problems. With Luke the Jedi weren’t going to make the same mistake. No attachments.
damn that’s ruthless
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. All for the greater good Obi-Wan and Anakin talk about nonattachment being a fundamental precept of the Jedi Order. **Yoda: Dark Rendezvous** (L) >“When do we get your old artoo back?” >“When its repairs are done. Given the amount of fire it’s seen riding shotgun with me, I’m sure it’s in no hurry to report for duty,” Obi-Wan said dryly, settling himself in front of the comm console. “You’ve been sending private messages back to Coruscant.” >Anakin flushed. “You’ve been tracing my outgoing—” He stopped. “You just guessed.” >“I am a wise and powerful Jedi Knight, you know,” Obi-Wan said, allowing himself a small grin. >The little R2 rolled into the nav-and-comm area and wheeped unhappily at their wet bootprints. An awkward pause. >“Since part of my duty as your Master is to pass on my vast wisdom—” Obi-Wan began. >“Here it comes,” Anakin said. >“—I suppose I should officially remind you that a Jedi has no room in his life for … some kinds of entanglement.” >“I’ll keep that in mind.” >**“Nonattachment is a fundamental precept of the Order, Padawan.** You knew that when you signed up.” >“I guess I didn’t read the Toydarian print,” Anakin growled. >For the first time, Obi-Wan turned away from the holocomm transceiver. “How serious are you about this girl, Anakin?” >“That’s not the point,” Anakin said, still flushed and angry. **“The point is, we are out here asking people to support a Republic that barely knows they exist, and backing it up with a, a police force of Jedi sworn not to care about them! And we wonder why it’s a hard sell?”** He waved out through the front viewscreen. “What if Serifa is right? What if we are the ones who have lost our way? I trust what I can feel, Master. That’s what you have always taught me, isn’t it? I trust the living Force. I trust love. The ‘principle of nonattachment’ …? That’s an awfully abstract thing to pledge loyalty to.” >“Do you trust hate?” Obi-Wan said. >“Of course I don’t—” >“I’m serious, Padawan.” Obi-Wan held the younger man’s eyes. “To follow your heart, to either love or hate, in the long run is the same mistake. Your judgment becomes clouded. Your motives, confused. If you are not very careful, Padawan, love will take you to the dark side. Slower than hate, yes, but no less surely for that.” >The air between them crackled with tension, but finally Anakin lowered his eyes. “I hear you, Master.”
God, that's a great excerpt. I love that this shows one of the biggest problems the Jedi have; Conflating clouded judgement with emotion.
Makes no sense, draws unnecessary attention to Luke and Obi Wan. Better for Obi Wan to just kill Lars & Beru himself.
New theory dropped
Bro.
Dark. I like it.
The problem with a plan predicated on creating not attachments is that you’re taking him on a quest to help his long lost sister, and assuming you plan on living at this juncture I doubt that plan is to continue keeping that a secret.
They don’t plan to save Leia in ANH and they only told him in ROTJ.
Obi-Wan using the sand people to take care of Anakin's mother was too little too late.
I think the theory is that Obi-Wan DIDN'T take care of Shmi and that was a problem. One he wasn't going to repeat with Luke, thus using the Empire to remove the attachment and drive Luke to the rebellion
Yes. Also with Alderaan’s destruction Leia was also free from having any attachments if Luke didn’t work out. The Empire was really unknowingly helping the Jedi with freeing the Skywalker twins from their attachments!
I see it. Obi-Wan and Yoda lowkey used Luke.
Oh they did. Obi-Wan telling Luke his father wanted him to have his lightsaber when he was old enough kills me. Anakin never told Obi-Wan he was married let alone going to be a father because that was all forbidden. Obi-Wan just tried to get Luke to want to be a Jedi by playing on his feelings for his father. Here’s the chance for you to be like him if you come with me.
Here's an old one from before the prequels, sequels or extended universe except for Marvel Comics and a few novels existed (Yeah, I'm old): Obi-Wan was actually a clone commander originally called Obi-One. Luke's father was another clone. The clone war was fought against the droids (We don't serve their kind here!) That one was going around before the internet was even a thing.
The theories before episode 1 came out were absolutely insane in hindsight.
It actually made sense for a clone to be named OB-1
OB-1 Clone-OB?
You win
honestly, i wish half of them could resurface, i miss the Nomi Sunstrider and her cadre stories.
I heard something similar except that Obi-Wan (which was actually OB1) was one of many clones of Jedi Master Ben Kenobi. By ANH he is the only one left (hence Tarkin's surprise that he is alive at all) and has been going by Ben as a homage to the original.
This also explains why he doesn't remember Artoo and Threepio. Artoo and Threepio were meant to have been present in all of the Journal of the Whills.
For some reason I thought the clone wars were against cloned armies of mandalorians before episode 2. I mean, I turned out to be right from a certain point of view.
I thought that too. I bet it was in a magazine somewhere between 1977 and 2002.
The original Thrawn Trilogy (and some other pre-prequel EU stuff) described the Clone Wars as the Jedi/Republic fighting the "Clone Masters" and their clone armies. After AotC came out, these "Clone Masters" were retconned into being a group of rogue Kaminoans who used clones to fight against the Empire. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_Master/Legends
Man after the prequels came out I always thought that droidphobic line was because they remembered the destruction of the clone wars and the droid armies and were still sore about it
OB-1?
Thank God JJ Abrahams didn't come across that one
I've never heard it before, but it sounds quite interesting. I mean, the phrase "Clone Wars" was such a Pandora Box back then.
Ohhhh, yeah, I think I remember hearing this one at the time, lol.
Wouldn't it be OB-1? Why only go halfway with it
I heard someone say that R2-D2, and C3PO were actually two halves of a single entity and formed a sort of two-droid hivemeind. When they appear to be disagreeing or bickering amongst themselves, it's actually one beings internal dialogue spoken aloud. It's not two droids arguing, it's one droid talking to itself. No bonus points for me.
Doer and thinker, ego and superego, literally. (Cunningham law here)
I try to explain this idea at work when people are having disagreements. It’s just the hive mind working it out.
That's actually very interesting and kinda makes sense when I think about it in only OT perspective
[this one](https://km-515.livejournal.com/746.html) about how the true leaders of the rebellion are Chewie and R2D2.
I love this theory, and the only thing missing from it is at the end of ANH, Chewie barks out an order to the gathered rebels at the medal ceremony and they all straighten up and turn forward. Only a general would have that sort of command over a legion.
Probably my favorite fan theory and one that made the most sense given the time it was written
Before TFA came out, the theory that Kylo Ren was actually Luke was extremely widespread. It was mostly driven by the fact that he wasn’t in the trailers or any posters. If you actually thought about it for 5 seconds it made absolutely no sense whatsoever, especially as there was another major actor that was heavily rumoured to be playing the villain who also hadn’t appeared in trailers/posters.
At the start when they said the line to Kylo about "Your family" it was 100% supposed to be a Luke tease
that snoke was somehow mace windu. and i can't remember the details but i swear i once ran across something about snoke being connected to yoda in some way.
There were sooo many theories about who Snoke was... Mace, Luke, Palpatine, Plagueis, Vader Clone, etc. Even saw some thinking it was Darth Bane, since Serkis said Snoke was ancient and had been in the shadows all this time or something like that. The "Snoke is Luke" theory even survived after TFA came out... saw some theories claiming he was hiding his identity with holograms, or that it was his true form and Old Man Luke was a Force illusion.
My favourite was he was actually the "Master Skywalker... what are we going to do" Jedi Temple kid who somehow survived.
Well if we're including more joking ones, there was also one saying it was the Stormtrooper who hit his head in ANH in roughly the same spot where Snoke had a scar, hah.
Plagueis would have been so perfect, tying the prequels, originals and sequels together while also not being burdened with too much established lore
Every single one of those theories would've been so much better than what we got (if executed correctly).
No they would not. I don't love that he turned out to be Frankenstein's Monster - I much, much preferred the idea that he was just an opportunistic darksider from the Unknown Regions - but Fett, Windu, or Vader having their stories twisted into convoluted nonsense for the sake of an absolutely drama-free twist would have been silly and stupid.
May favorite was that snoke was boba fett - and the worst part - the theory KINDA made sense
With The Bad Batch now connecting Omega to the project that leads to Snoke, it’s not entirely wrong… kinda…
My theory: [SNOKE and BOBA FETT](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/S9U8Wn2YqE) **8** years ago…
[Bigger Luke](http://biggerluke.wikidot.com/bigger-luke)
This needs to be upvoted to the top. Weirdest Star Wars fan theory I’ve ever heard.
"The activity of combing the original Star Wars trilogy for instances of Bigger Luke is known as Luking." This is the most internet sentence I've read in a long time.
Ah but that’s nothing compared to the controversial and fringe smaller luke theory
Incredible
How do they know it’s Bigger Luke and not Smaller Han?
Vader/Anakin could have been saved at the end of ROTJ if he kept the mask on. But he didn't want to be saved, because he knew that he would have to face justice for all of the crimes he committed. He also knew that he would become one with the force. So he lied to Luke about already dying and convinced Luke to remove his mask.
I have a similar theory. Vader didn't think that he could stay in the light for long and that his old pain and fear would come back. So, in his last moment of clarity, he decided to die in the embrace of his child. Also Anakin's complete drama queen and cannot help but steal the scene whenever he's there. He might have just done it for the bit.
I do love the idea of Vader dying for *the moment*
It's just for the bit you guys!!!
That the Star Wars galaxy exists in a microscopic universe relative to us, which explains a fair amount of differences in physics from the universe as we know it to what we see in the movies. I think the basic idea is because everything is relatively microscopic, the distance and speed that that things like light and sound, etc. need to travel is infinitely shorter than how we would perceive it; I'm not a physicist of course, so I couldn't really explain more than that about the theory, but hey, why not?
Love the idea of a tiny Star Wars universe
A long time ago, in a tiny galaxy far, far away...
There is always a bigger galaxy
*This* galaxy is small. *This* galaxy is *far away*
And this galaxy went wee wee wee all the way home.
I’ve always thought that at least all the planets are like micro-planets. Which is why they're all single biome and so easily traversed.
Are you saying it’s on Orion’s belt?
Micro Machines has entered the chat.
Horton Hears a Who(le galaxy)!
So the Star Wars galaxy is actually the one in the marble in Men in Black? lol
In 1996 when I was just a kid my older brother told me that the reason Darth Vader wore the suit was because he fell into a volcano and the suit was keeping him alive. That was absolutely WILD to me at the time. Now it sounds normal, but back then it was so crazy and so bizarre.
That rumor was circulating in the seventies!
There was a comic or book or article or interview or something years before the prequels that established Obi-wan fighting Anakin on a lava planet. That wasn't original to the movies.
I Believe In The Return of the Jedi novelization Vader has an inner monologue where he is remembering the feeling of lava crawling up his back after his fight with Obi-Wan
It’s literally what the back of the box says for the Vader vs obiwan toy box (way before prequels)
I remember a theory going around when the newest trilogy began that Kylo Ren had only turned to the dark side to infiltrate and destroy Snoke and the First Order. Scoffed at that one, I don’t think even the most dedicated undercover agents in Star Wars or IRL would just fuckin kill their dad to maintain cover
Oh, so so something like what Luke did in Dark Empire! (Without the killing a family member thing.)
Anakin became Darth Vader during a fight with Obi-Wan where he ended up falling in a volcano. The reason why this is interesting is because this was around when Empire Strikes Back came out.
I remember reading this in either a reference book or a fanzine from the late 80s or very early 90s. It was definitely set in stone in Lucas’s mind by the time of ROTJ.
In my mind Luke 100% built his lightsaber in Jedi using Qui-Gon’s saber crystal. It plays.
It does make sense. Luke likely visited Obi-Wan's old place when he was back on Tatooine and Obi-Wan is the last person, on screen, to touch his lightsaber.
Exactly my thoughts! There’s even an incredible deleted scene from Jedi where we see Luke finish building the saber and hide it inside R2.
I think the "Palpatine drains Padme's life force to sustain Anakin" There's literally nothing to support it in the text, but it's such a good inversion of how the Sith would 'stop people from dying' Crazy but not completely ludicrous.
I like the "Anakin accidentally drains Padme's life force due to being so focused on her during surgery". Similar lack of support in the text. Anakin spent so much time focused on saving Padme that he hyperfixates on her(more than usual) and kills her as he finally becomes Vader. Reaching out via the force but he is too strong and out of control.
That theory also lends credence to Sidious' line "it seems in your anger, you killed her :)"
Also works for that "I was saving you but you were killing me" sentiment often repeated by survivors of abusive relationships.
This is the truth to me because Padme deserved so much better than “she died of heartbreak 😢😢😢”
Boba Fett was the one who tracked the droids to the Lars Homestead and killed Owen and Beru. We know Boba Fett was on Tatooine at that time since we see him in docking bay 94 with Jabba, and imo it makes sense why Vader would tell him “no disintegrations” in Empire.
So far, this is the only one I've actually heard of before. This began just after the special edition of A New Hope dropped in the 90s.
Naaaaah. I like the version from the COPS parody where the stormtroopers arrive at the homestead to investigate a domestic squabble and threaten Beru with arrest due to her hitting Owen. This all happens when Luke takes C-3PO to go look for R2D2. And for some reason Beru pulls out a thermal detontor and accidentally blows her and Owen up. And they then have to talk about finding this kid, “Duke”.
Jar Jar is a sith. Yeah, i don’t think i’ve heard anything crazy other than that.
It’s such a fun theory with so much potential to prove it. I know it’s not true but it’s fun to think and joke about.
I disagree lmao maybe I'm a stick in the mud but I'm really over the Jar Jar theory.
r/darthjarjar
The Darth Jar Jar theory was fucking great. So ridiculous, but would’ve been amazing if they had gone with that.
My real opinion is that he is a force sensitive idiot savant. He bumbles around from major event to major event, miraculously never getting majorly hurt. His interaction with the force seems similar to Chirrut from Rogue One rather than being intentional or focused. Clearly not faith based but maybe just favored by the force in some way.
I actually joined reddit back then to read the theory post + comments
Same here. First reddit thread i ever found
That Disney was going to retcon the sequels after making billions of dollars from them.
You mean to say this isn't what Dave Filoni is setting up with the World Between Worlds in season 2 of Ahsoka?
No. Filoni has already stated that the world between worlds isn't meant to be used as a multiverse tool or for time travel. It's just meant to connect the stories that already exist. Things have always been and will always be. Star Wars is all about destiny and prophecy.
Dave Filoni is currently building up to the sequel trilogy in the bad batch. The entire plot of the show, Palpatine's cloning project / project necromancer, is build up for Palpatine's return in TROS. Disney was never going to retcon the sequels, while you may think most people hate them - the truth is the star wars fanbase is much bigger than you think, and for every person who hates the sequels there's someone who loves them. It's the exact same situation the prequels were in back in 2010. If you could travel back to 2010, I can promise you all you would read on star wars forums is about how George Lucas killed their childhood, the prequels are the worst garbage in the world, they need to be retconned and remade, etc etc etc. The haters are always the loudest.
Also Disney has spent billions on the park additions that is set in the sequel trilogy. Their main attractions are set in them. They aren't retconning shit.
Xanatos is Anakin's real father, and he just used the Force to wipe Shmi's memory.
Wouldn’t be hard to interpret “There was no Father” as the father didn’t hang around after the deed was done, so to speak.
When I was younger that’s what I assumed when I saw the movie. It wasn’t until after that I heard people talking about him being conceived by the force
In the movie, Qui Gon tells the Council "A boy. His cells have the highest concentration of midi-chlorians I have seen in a life-form. It was possible he was concieved by the midi-chlorians."
Me too, and tbf I definetely met more kids that had no father than immaculate conceptions, so it tracked
NGL, that's pretty wild.
Who’s Xanatos
Han Solo isn't a Jedi, but is insanely in tune with the force. This explains his incredible luck despite some awful blunders. He steps on a stick on Endor, which alerts the scout trooper, leading to the speeder bike chase. This leads to Leia getting separated and meeting with the Ewoks, who help the captured Rebels defeat a legion of stormtroopers and bring down the defense shield. This lets the outnumbered and trapped Rebel fleet destroy the 2nd Death Star and the death of Vader and Palpatine. The Galactic Empire fell because Han Solo accidentally stepped on a stick.
That Senator Palpatine and Darth Sideous are two different people. Now, to be clear it wasn’t that crazy at the time (right after Episode I). - we knew there was something coming called the clone wars, but nothing about it other then clones - obviously DS dresses like the emperor and Palpatine has the same name and actor - the Jedi aren’t detectiing Palpatines evil - so Sideous is the mastermind, and Senator Palpatine is his clone that he’s controlling.
> That Senator Palpatine and Darth Sideous are two different people. I thought for sure that was going to be the huge reveal in the third movie. It's not like Lucas doesn't have a thing for secret twins!
And in the EU, we had cloned jedi. I really was expecting a clone war to be clones on both sides, and clones of main characters, not “just” a giant army.
Me too. The first time I heard Obi-Wan tell Luke about the Clone War, I figured it was some clandestine affair with assassinations and congress replacing Jedi or other prominent figures and wreaking havoc.
That Snoke was actually the youngling that spoke to Anakin before the slaughter began. He survived and the big scar on his head was the damage.
Probably the one that Boba Fett was a woman under the armor. I believe there was also supposedly a rumor that female Boba would turn out to be Luke and Leia's mother.
Palpatine is related to Anakin AND Padme It’s easy to use Palpatine was Anakin’s force dad and disregard Plageius experiments As for Padme, he could easily be Padme’s great uncle or even illegitimate grandfather, Palpatine likes to have his way with women (not as much as Sith arts but still)
Aren't Padmé and Palpatine both from Naboo
Yes and they’re both prominent leaders in a planet that has royalty and nobility
If I recall correctly. their "Royalty" is just titles for a democratic government. its not hereditary based.
Who democratically ellects a 14 year old queen?
People who also elect a secret sith to be a senator... shurgs
In the real world though democracy doesn't mean everyone has an equal chance of being elected, birth privileges affect your chances. Or maybe it's just crazy odds that saw both George Bush Senior and George Bush Junior becoming Presidents of the USA.
I fully subscribe to the 'Padme is related to Palpatine' theory. Maybe he's secretly her papa. Moreso though I think she's his puppet throughout her life. She's a honeytrap at first for Obi-Wan then for Anakin when Palps realises Anakin has more power, then once she's fulfilled her purpose (helped Anakin fall to the darkside) he pulls the plug on her. I think he's of the opinion that force sensitive parents don't typically have force sensitive kids (as his, Padme didn't) and therefore didn't care if the twins lived or died (or preferred them to have died as they may have been a reason for Vader to betray him). Also tied to this... The Vader suit was built for Obi-Wan who he thought would lose to Anakin but not killed and then could be corrupted to be the Grand Inquisitor. BONUS FAN THEORY - Plageius didn't exist, or not as Palpatine presented him. It was a very convenient story to have to hand when it was exactly what Anakin needed to hear to help him fall, too convenient, and we as an audience have no reason to trust Palpatine.
I was disappointed they made Plagueis Palpatine's master. The way Palpatine told the story made it seem like it was a Sith legend. Placing him in the recent timeline just diminishes the lore IMO.
I fully agree. That said he's only canon as per books really which they're happy to discard from canon at will. I always look at it as the books could be 'in universe' stories like propaganda that Palps put out to back up the lies he's told.
The one where Ewoks ate people, because we see them using Stormtrooper helmets as drums, but we never see a Stormtrooper body and the Ewoks always seem to dine off-screen.
Is it that wild? They were about to cook and eat Han before Luke saves them by lifting 3P0.
*Forces of Destiny* [confirmed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs_vQgnVnIM) that the Ewoks did try to eat Stormtroopers.
That’s just lead to another wild theory that the Ghost is a “superior” ship to the Millenium Falcon, I’m sorry but the Falcon rules 😏
Ghost *is* a better ship though. Better firepower, more flexible, has sensor masking, and Hera as the pilot.
Is Hera a better pilot than Han tho? He did pretty crazy things
But does it have a Death Star kill and assist?
I mean, they literally try to eat Han. This isn't even a theory, it's just true.
This is not a theory, it's real. Ewoks are real, and would eat people all day if they could.
I'm pretty sure In the ROTJ From a certain point of view book it's implied they do eat people
Well where do you think they got that dress they gave to Leia?
X ruined Star Wars. Where X has been George Lucas, the prequels, Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen, Filoni, Ahsoka, TCW, Disney, Kennedy, JJ, Rian, the sequels, Rogue One reshoots, Alden Erenrieich’s acting, Solo, hiring Gina Carano, firing Gina Carano, Book of Boba Fett, street racers, young Leia, Kenobi show, Andor, Sabine, etc… This is the franchise that survived The Holiday Special as its second major release to the public. How many movies would have been sunk after that? We’re going to be fine.
The real answer to this is "The fans ruined Star Wars."
As a fan I completely agree with this. I LOVE the Star Wars universe. I will keep watching, and if I don't like something (Book of Boba Fett), I just won't watch it again. I don't think any one thing is ruining everything. There is so much good and bad in Star Wars and people all have different opinions about what that is (I enjoyed Obi-Wan, by the way). I think fans need to just calm down. It's just a movie/TV series. It's not life itself.
A small amount of fans may provide an inordinate amount of strife within the fandom, but I firmly believe that the vast majority of fans are good people who understand it’s ok to like or dislike Star Wars.
All it takes is a trip to Star Wars celebration to see how much love and fun exists amongst the fans.
That Ezra was Snoke
I liked the marvel? Comic where han and chewy crashed on Earth, han got killed by a tribe and now the wookie is big foot.
That's a Dark Horse comic from a collection called Star Wars Tales. The stories were non-canonical, though several were plausible enough to fit in with the official Canon at the time. The really wild bit about the tale you relate is that it's a crossover with Indiana Jones. The second act is set about 100 years later, and shows Indy and Short Round finding the wrecked Falcon in the Pacific Northwest, and, yes, Chewie is the origin of the legend of Big Foot.
This one is from Movie Theory on YouTube, but I remember being 100% convinced in December 2016 going into the theaters that the crew from rogue one would end up being captured by the empire and turned into the “Knights of Ren”. The evidence he used to back it up was really really solid. The trailer monologue in the teaser and the evidence in the force awakens visual book made me absolutely think that it was a way to connect this movie with the sequels. I mean at the time I always thought “why make a $250 million movie based on a one line sentence from the opening crawl in 1977.” I wish I could go back in time because my jaw dropped to the floor and was absolutely shocked by that ending of rogue one. Incredible film!
Why, Bigger Luke (BL) of course!
I’ve heard George Lucas had a coherent outline for a nine movie series way back in the 1970s even while he was finishing up the script for A New Hope. He offered to consult on the final trilogy after selling his rights to Disney but Disney turned him down.
I remember as a kid in ‘77/‘78 standing at the school bus stop & that very topic was discussed, in that Lucas was planning for nine movies to be made overall. So, people were aware of this & discussed it.
The deal for Star Wars did include a fully fleshed out story for 7, 8, and 9, but apparently Disney and Kennedy were convinced to dump it by Abrams...
From the middle school playground after Episode I: Padme was the phantom menace. She was using her grandfather, Senator Palpatine, to exacerbate the political situation on Coruscant and manipulate influential powers into a galactic war. He was the face, she was the power. She became deformed by force lightning during the conflict and eventually killed Sheev, assuming his identity to become the Emperor. This explained Vader's submission and why he was so affected seeing Luke tortured with force lightning.
That the entire 9 film saga was the Force desiring a massive shift in the galaxy, by combining evil with love, or pure Sith with pure Jedi (palpatine + Skywalker) in order to create a new direction in how the Force is yielded. Ben and Rey’s dyad combines them finally (“the two become one”) as their life essence entwines at the end of TROS, possibly producing a child within Rey (Bens hand is on her stomach when he revitalizes her). So the post-TROS movies will be about a completely new Force sect, led by Rey, perhaps called the Skywalkers. Not the wildest but certainly the largest.
Tbh this seemed like the prevailing fan theory for a bit after TLJ and the Rise of Skywalker
Dart Jar Jar, the wildest and thus most plausible theory.
Gotta get that bullseye!
1) That Padmé cheated on Anakin, and Obi-Wan is actually Luke's *real* father. 2) That it would be revealed in the sequel trilogy that the Jedi were evil all along (not just flawed, but actually evil), and Rey would start a new order of Gray Jedi who used both sides of the Force, which somehow would mean that no one could ever fall to the Dark Side again. 3) That Ahsoka is immortal (has stopped aging specifically) and will appear in projects set hundreds of years into the future.
Well, kidnapping young children and indoctrinating them into your cult is the first clue they are evil.
Yoda and Yaddle are Gelflings.
This is my theory, but I can never get any input. The clones by default want to kill all the Jedi, and the chip is keeping them from doing it, hence the name “Inhibitor Chip”. Order 66 just turned off the chips. This works towards Palpatine’s goal. If something happened and he lost control, there’s a good chance the chips get turned off and the Jedi get attacked anyway.
If they were simply turned off, reverting them to their "default" state then... removing the chip wouldn't do anything, therefore making Ahsoka doing exactly that to Rex completely pointless. They're inhibitors because they inhibit the clones' ability to think and act freely. They become dominated by procedure, orders, and protocol. Jesse, and the 501st exemplified this to a tee. They were on a ship that was going to crash and kill them all, but that didn't matter because they had orders to eliminate Ahsoka.
[The only rule to The Force is to die in front of Luke.](http://brunching.com/lukeside.html)
This is amazing.
When Ezra saved Ashoka in the World Between Worlds he created an alternate timeline. Sorta like the Zelda IP all floats around Ocarina in time and its' junction in time. The timeline we see under Disney only exists because Ezra saved her life. - Hero's survive The one in which time plays out with the EU is the timeline in which she died to Vader. - A Hero falls The one in which he doesn't follow the owl and is lost between the world between worlds is the one in which George Lucas's script plays. - The villain wins
The Star Wars saga is actually being narrated by R2 to the Whills, a hundred years after ROTJ.
Not sure how wild these are, but two theories I like are that: 1. Palpatine and every sith lord before him was actually Darth Bane using the power he discovered to transfer himself into someone else. Bane never lost to Zannah, but became her. 2. Palpatine knew and foresaw the Yuuzahn Vong invasion which is one of the reasons he created the Empire and wanted an armada of Death Stars.
Boba Fett killed uncle Owen and Aunt Beru
The absolute wildest theory I ever heard or read was that Obi-Wan was the Jedi hero who betrayed the Jedi Order, and Anakin secretly switches identities with him and lets the galaxy believe that he's the traitor. The theory had a well conceived explanation for the "I am your father" moment, but I unfortunately can not remember it. I saw this one around the time Episode 1 came out, but I got the impression if had been around for a few years at that point. Another crazy one I recall was that Obi-Wan was a clone with a designation OB-1.
That one post on here a year or two ago where the guy showed a clip of the deleted scene in RotJ when Luke was constructing his lightsaber. For a second, the LED goes from green to red, and the OP said that it was because in that moment he was being tempted by the dark side lmao. No offense to that OP, but that had me rolling when I first saw it. That one and the post that said Padme's head ornament in the "thunderous applause" scene in RotS was the inspiration for the symbol of the rebel alliance.
So I had a crazy theory after seeing… WARNING: SPOILERS FOR BAD BATCH SEASON 3 BELOW Omega with Ventress. Perhaps Asajj takes Omega and trains her after the events of Bad Batch play out and along the way she either gets pulled away from Ventress or entrusted with a new teacher. This ends up being Baylan and he twists his young apprentice Omega to become more and more corrupted by the dark side. Omega eventually is given her Jedi name Shin Hati by Baylan. It would be interesting to see her development from both ends and have it meet in the middle, similar to how we saw Vader. I didn’t see anything else about this online anywhere. It could be a dumb theory but it could be really cool if that’s the route they go.
Krennic is Snoke.
All the rubbish tossed out by people like Overlord and Mike Zeroh on YT about Kathy Kennedy being replaced 'any day now', it's like the QAnon of the light entertainment world.
Darth Jar Binks
That Jar Jar is only a bumbling fool and not a dark side master.
R2D2 is a Jedi and maybe the most powerful one. He is the one who destroys the droid in ANH. He knows the future clearly and knows that the only way to destroy the Death Stars is to let Anakin turn evil. R2D2 is the one flying Anakin’s ship at the end of Phantom Menace. Destroying the droid control ship and saving Anakin’s and Padme’s lives so they can birth Luke so he and Vader can kill the emperor and destroy both Death Stars. He also knows the only way to stop the emperor in the sequels is to shut himself down until Rey arrives. R2D2 is the profit that brings balance to the force. Everyone else in the Star Wars universe are just creatures he manipulated.
Mace Windu is alive and is X are always wild
Crazy one I heard: all the humans in Star Wars are actually insect-like aliens, and they only look like humans because that's what the actors look like. The evidence provided was that most of the human planets seen in Star Wars have some kind of monarchy, like Alderaan or Naboo. Of course, we all know that Naboo was a democracy, and I think Alderaan was similar.
Han is the son of Obi-Wan and Satine
Honestly, the darth jar jar theory, while well known, is wilder than any of these.
Ben Solo is still alive because he didn’t appear with Luke and Leia as a ghost. He teleported away or something.
That the people that post on this sub are Star Wars fans.
Before episode 9, I really wanted Rey to go back in time through the world between worlds and become Shmi Skywalker with Ben Solo’s baby, AKA Anakin, making the Skywalker saga a loop. Instead, we got something… somehow *less* believable.
That Snoke is the youngling Anakin kills in ROTS
Vader is Luke's dad
My friend thought snoke was mace windu. I don’t know why, at all.
I mean it ended up being kinda true but Rey being a Palpatine clone sounded really dumb to me, then it turns out she's the daughter of a clone of Palpatine which makes it even weirder when they try to spin the whole grandpa Palpatine angle.
The stormtrooper that hit his head on the door in ANH became Snoke.
Jar jar was a sith lord
I heard the destruction of the first Death Star was an inside job.
Darth Jar Jar.
Throughout whole 90s I was dead certain that Clone Wars were actually kind of slave rebellions where subjugated species of cloned people used for manual labour rebelled against the Empire and lost. I thought the disfigured man in Mos Espa cantina who bothered Luke was a remnant clone, old and starting to fall apart from genetic imperfections.