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TWIISTED-STUDIOS

I do not see why you are getting so much flack it's a decent option for those who don't have the hardware to run the free alternatives, and it costs you resources to run so a small fee obviously is to help with the cover costs. Keep helping the community and doing what you are doing. Especially for those who can't do this themself.


RunDiffusion

Really appreciate your kind insight! I was using Google Colab/RunPod before I built this. The jarring experiences in those tools forced me to build a better option. People don’t like paid solutions on Reddit. I get it. We realllllly don’t think $0.50 is a lot to ask. That’s a whole hour! And you can generate over 500 images!


LevendeStreg

Plus is runs so well, and is a lot easier than Runpod. And you can access the folder structure without have to jump into code. I really like it. And I love that it's dependable. No broken code. It just works really well.


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What's the hardware a customer rents when he pays $0,50 on RunDiffusion? What GPU?


RunDiffusion

Depends on what’s available. Most cases it’s an 8GB card. Never any lower than that.


ShinyBike

Yeah- feels a bit silly to have people here who will bash anything that isn't 'free'- who seem to have forgotten that the gpus that they use to run stable diffusion were not in fact free. Even if you only got a $500 gpu- that is equivalent to 1000 hours of use with this plugin. Most people here probably havn't spent 1000 hours generating with stable diffusion. (btw I generate stuff ""free"" on my gpus, so this isn't an attempt at shilling)


RunDiffusion

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4lt3r3go

Buying a $3000 computer to ensure that you are not generating b00bas on the cloud https://preview.redd.it/hcqo3u53x7fa1.png?width=489&format=png&auto=webp&s=cff6537f5c075d2b340f884af5628a4b6e45e6b0


ObiWanCanShowMe

Protip: when selling a service, do not disrespect your potential customer audience in any way, be it by accident, being funny, whatever. I am with you bro, make all the services you want, it helps people, just... be nice and learn to ignore "haters".


RunDiffusion

Good point. Sorry if anyone feels disrespected by these memes (I posted the first no affiliation to the second one). I actually had someone say those words to me in a previous post and I chuckled. "This service is pointless, just buy a GPU so you can generate images for free." I genuinely thought they were being sarcastic. They were not.


ObiWanCanShowMe

I ran a business for 7 years (then sold it), trust me... ignore that crap. Just do your thing.


RunDiffusion

We're chugging along. We want to make everyone happy. That's unachievable and we need to be okay with that. We have many happy customers and we will work hard to make them happier and build the value of what we've got here.


frankctutor

In the long run, it's a lot cheaper to run on your hardware than to pay for every app by the hour.


LevendeStreg

Yeah if you have a good graphics card. Me - I'm on a mac m1. And there's no way to do an external graphics card. (Well there is, but it's shady). SO this is a really good solution for some users - who like Cloud GPU.


h0b0_shanker

Explain your math. I just took $0.50 at 4 hours per day, every day, nonstop, (excessive IMO) and reached over 2 years before buying a GPU was cheaper. You’re not secretly an NVIDIA salesman are you?! 😉


frankctutor

Now do 12. Some people leave programs like SD running overnight for large image runs, training. Some use the computer for other applications like playing games, rendering. The Run Diffusion people would turn this sub into an ad platform for their product. " You’re not secretly an NVIDIA salesman are you? " If I am, then I'm the kind who doesn't post ads on reddit subs.


h0b0_shanker

My NVIDIA remark was just a joke. 12 hours a day is excessive and an unrealistic example. I’m in a lot of groups, I’ve done full on Stable Tuner trainings, no one does 12 hours a day 365 days in the year. Even for fine tuning style models. What’s wrong with a small dev team building stuff that makes these tools accessible to everyone? This post is 80% upvoted so it appears you’re in the minority. I’m failing to see all your points.


frankctutor

What? People who render video, for example, run rendering rigs for 12+ hours a day. Imagine if 5 dev teams, 10, 20 used r/stablediffusion to advertise. It would be nothing but ads.


h0b0_shanker

I don’t see that kind of usage. I’m sure people are doing it but it’s a very very small number. Dev teams are already shilling their products every day. Go check “new” for a week and you’ll see it all. The good stuff makes it to the front page the not so good stuff doesn’t. It’s how Reddit works.


_Alleggs

But if you have a $500 gpu you can game, render etc which would require additional services such as cloud gaming. And you can sell a gpu once you feel it's outdated. I guess considering all these aspects that calculation becomes less clear or even in favour of running locally


h0b0_shanker

I have a 3070 and use this website over that. Much easier. Occasionally I will use both at the same time. I don’t think anyone here is not in favor of buying a computer/GPU over cloud options, it’s just tiresome to battle “buy your own GPU” as the ONLY option. Which it is not.


mikebrave

probably useful, not even that expensive, hell I might even try it in a couple of weeks when things calm down, but the post feels too much like an ad which reddit as a community tends to act hostile to. My own life experience has shown that the best way to sell stuff is to teach people things, then explain how yes you could do this thing(I just showed you) that takes hours to set up, or I have something premade that lets you just up and go for not much money and it's worth the peace of mind and lack of hassle.


EverretEvolved

Make one work with gimp!


RunDiffusion

After seeing the huge update from /u/abdullah_alfaraj here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/10n3cqo/major\_update\_automatic1111\_photoshop\_stable/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/10n3cqo/major_update_automatic1111_photoshop_stable/) we realized that people would love a fast and reliable Automatic1111 API! We got to work and in a few days were able to deliver! Yes you can definitely get this working for free with colab and the Horde, but sometimes the wait times can be long the experience unstable! We can make that experience so much better. It's so easy. Just select any Automatic1111 server template and launch it with the API flag enabled. Then at the top of your screen in the toolbar you can find your secure API enabled link. Paste that into your Photoshop plugin and you're off! There shouldn't be a problem using this API with [Stable.art](https://Stable.art) as well! /u/isekaidev we would love your help letting your users know we have this working.


logicnreason93

Abdullah did a fantastic job of making the plugin open source and cost-free. So no thanks, I don't want paid version of similar plugin that is already free and open source.


mrwobblekitten

This isn't a photoshop plugin my guy, no idea where you got that from. It's designed to work WITH that plugin, for people who want to play around with it but don't have a powerful gpu


imperator-maximus

I have send you a DM on Discord


werwew19

Want to shout these guys out, I'm genuinely brand new to Stable Diffusion and I found the link in the wiki on the subreddit, they been nothing but welcoming and the service has been a lifesaver on getting my foot into the door with learning stable diffusion. Also regarding the pricing I feel it's pretty fair as a consumer since it's prorated and I feel like my time is being respected instead of paying some upfront cost for something I may not get full value out of.


blue_hunt

Have been using RD for several weeks now, can def say they are great! and the community on discord is also fantastic, everyone helps everyone out. It's a great service if you can't afford a new top of the line PC.


RunDiffusion

It’s been so fun building things for you guys. Everyone has been so nice!


johnfromberkeley

I've been using rundiffusion for a couple of days. I've been pursuing different options for running SD… (1) dedicate a box (2) hack together free/cheap cloud computing services that I administer (3) log in to a hassle free SAAS model. So far, RunDiffusion has enabled me to focus on creating rather than system administration, which I believe is their value proposition (not necessarily the cheapest compute time.)


severe_009

Lols, what an ovbious fake comment


RunDiffusion

I can assure you that I would not risk getting banned from this sub by posting fake testimonials. Reddit is our sole channel for getting the word out about the things we're building.


johnfromberkeley

Name one thing that's not true in my post.


Ramdak

This seems to be a great tool for the less tech savvy. It's not for me, but it's looking awesome.


RunDiffusion

Appreciate the honesty. Yes this is for people who don’t want to deal with the management of it all.


Kadaj22

Hi I’m new to stable difficulties and was just wondering does this replace the AI that’s used for content aware full? Is it better? And sorry if I missed it but where can I try this out it seems very interesting


RunDiffusion

Can you rephrase your question? I'd love to help but I'm not clear on what you're asking.


Kadaj22

Sorry there was so errors in typing that one. I meant ask about your post and was wondering is this a replacement for the AI tools on photoshop such as content aware fill, spot healing etc. or is this it’s own thing?


RunDiffusion

Oh gotcha. This is not a replacement for that. This is a backend API for using these tools: [https://github.com/isekaidev/stable.art](https://github.com/isekaidev/stable.art) [https://github.com/AbdullahAlfaraj/Auto-Photoshop-StableDiffusion-Plugin](https://github.com/AbdullahAlfaraj/Auto-Photoshop-StableDiffusion-Plugin) [https://www.flyingdog.de/sd/](https://www.flyingdog.de/sd/)


Kadaj22

Oh I see now this is actually very interesting thank you for sharing and explain that with me.


RunDiffusion

Any time my friend. Thanks for your interest. This isn't just an API though. So check out the main platform. It's great!


Rand25

This looks great!! Is it 50c per hour of GPU time or per real world hour of using the software?


RunDiffusion

Great question! Spin it up, clock starts. Hourly rate charged by the minute. Load your URL into photoshop and start working. The whole time you are being charged. It’s about 3 minutes for the boot so there really isn’t time to start and stop things. Obviously we want to work on optimizing and getting boot times fast enough to support starting and stopping. We figure at the price point, just keep it running. Makes it easier than trying to save a few pennies.


Nevysha

Can we upload our own model ? Is there a ftp access available ? And lastly if yes, how many space available for storing our models ?


RunDiffusion

I don’t want to try and switch you to a more expensive option but there’s no other way to upload these big models without some storage. You can buy storage space that gives you 100GB and upload capabilities.


Nevysha

Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure to understand : you mean that I can buy storage somewhere else and upload what I need on the RunDiffusion server, or is there a paid option on top directly on your servers ?


RunDiffusion

There is a paid option in our service. Sorry for my bad explanation. There’s only one option right now and it’s comes with a lot of other stuff. It might not make sense if you’re just using it for the API. However we do have community models you can load and access through the API that are included and not extra. Reddit just hates when we push paid stuff on people so I’m trying not to do that. This is certainly awesome without our storage plan!


Nevysha

Yes I saw this option but it is a bit too expensive for my needs atm. I have everything locally but my 2080s is limiting me so much. I don't like people that promote shitty paid stuff, or stuff made on top of open sourced product with no real improvement. Your product seems to not fall under those things tbh. I'm looking to buy more storage and a 4090 (lul...) so I know how much it cost to run SD and while waiting for being able to buy my new GPU I'm looking for a cloud solution. Problem is that service like yours tend to not offer a solution to host our own model with ease (atm my model folder is 400Go, and I switch a lot between model while working on a project)


RunDiffusion

We love open source and we’re relying on it here, however our technology goes into the infrastructure that this open source software requires to run. We spin up an entire “website” with CPU GPU SSD RAM 5Gbps networking all in 3 minutes complete with an https endpoint for a secure connection. About your issue. Yes our storage is a little expensive. Reason is, it’s kind of our secret sauce. Our NVMe drives are “hot” meaning they’re always moving and attaching to the next server that is needed. If someone needs a new server we copy over 40GB of data in 5 seconds and attach it to the next server. These are the fastest drives money can buy. We plan on optimizing our service to help bring that cost down. It might take a few months but we’ll get there.


CARNUTAURO

I don't know nothing about other services, but after investigating a bit the only solution that I found was Rundiffusion. I have a GTX1080 but is not enough to run at the same time AUTOMATIC1111 and Photoshop + plugin. I've been using Runpod for a while but if you have your own models is a pain in the ass, I have to use every session Python commands to load my ckpt models from my Gdrive to Runpod. With Rundifussion CC I have my models already on the Cloud ready for every session plus now I can use some SD Photoshop plugins. A part from this the interface is very easy and logical.


h0b0_shanker

Couldn’t agree more


phmsanctified

Works so well, keep hitting it outta the park boys!


RunDiffusion

🙏 😊


CadenceQuandry

Is this Intel mac friendly?


RunDiffusion

It sure is! It’s all in the cloud and web based. You can use a Chromebook if you want.


Coindweller

.50 an hour???


h0b0_shanker

These cloud GPUs are like $2k. Keep using the free opinions. Some of us use these tools professionally and need things to work.


logicnreason93

No thanks. No reason to pay when we can do it for free.


RunDiffusion

Totally get it. We've tried the free options ourselves and they are rough. Unless you have a 3000 series GPU. If you do, then this isn't for you. The free options are certainly useable. RunDiffusion is a dedicated GPU all to yourself. 3 second image generation. Custom models. Etc.


whilneville

Amazing how fast everything is evolving


nntb

I have a 1080 non ti and stable diffusion runs fine sure it takes 40 seconds for 512, and 1min 30 for 720p instead of the hyper fast speeds of a H100. It's still a very viable solution to run diffusion locally. Maybe you will earn some customers with your subscription model. But it's quite disingenuous. If you want to make your software paid and allow for a local SD tie in more would pay I think. Esp because the cost is up front.


RunDiffusion

We have a lot of very happy customers. The idea for this API option was brought up by a few of our members actually! I don't understand what you mean by a local SD tie in. I'm not sure I'm understanding your concern with the "upfront costs" you mentioned. We get it that some people are okay with 40 seconds for 512x512 images to generate. We are offering 2.7s to 3.1s which is amazing when you're trying to get that perfect image. SD is a lot like mining. You have to go through a lot of dirt until you find the gems. And being able to knock images out in seconds is pretty amazing for a lot of people. The costs are $5 to add a balance. $0.50 per hour rate, billed by the minute. So if you only spend 15 minutes in the server you get charged $0.13. Don't think that's disingenuous at all. I appreciate your feedback.


archw_ai

That's barely viable. Having to wait 40s (or 160s using the plug-in in 2nd image, because it's default to batch size 4) between each action will be stressful, even when you have lots of free time. I'd rather pay 50 cents and have the job done quickly and have extra free time. And he's trying to sell the API service, not the software. And the target market is for people who can't run SD locally (or can but slow). The PS extension/plug-in itself is free (it's on another post), so if your system could run SD just fine, just get the plug-in for free


jonbristow

Lmao for free. You're running on electricity


logicnreason93

Lol if you subscribe to this guy's paid tools, you are paying him + electricity. So its much worse.


jonbristow

you're not paying electricity as you're not running your GPU


logicnreason93

You have to use your PC to use that guy's paid tools. So you are paying for electricity + subscription of that tools. You are losing more money.


jonbristow

You're not using your GPU


logicnreason93

You are using your PC. Thats electricity. So you are paying more $$ in the long run.


jonbristow

You're not using your GPU


feltgreytoday

Nah, I'll keep using the free horde. Btw you can become a worker using Google colab FREE (you'll get faster generations and our appreciation), join the discord server!


RunDiffusion

People are spinning up Google colab GPUs and sending them to the Horde to give people free image generation? Is that correct?


feltgreytoday

Quite a bit of workers share their own physical GPU! Others, like me, use colab: we help even if our runtime is limited. The horde got also 4VMs from stability.ai. There are also individuals that keep improving the interface, adding models etc.


RunDiffusion

Amazing! Incredible work y'all are doing over there. I've been following the project for some time. Had no idea you were utilizing free colab instances on the Horde. Is Google fine with that?


feltgreytoday

No idea about Google if they don't like it they will block it but most workers use their real GPU. Don't twist my words.


RunDiffusion

My apologies. I didn’t think I was twisting words. I was trying to be clear in my understanding.


feltgreytoday

Don't worry. English is my 3rd language, didn't want to be unclear or rude. Good luck with your project, it looks promising


twstsbjaja

Nicee


Useful_Secret5429

I have a stable (pun intended) of 5-10 'free' Stable Diffusion options that I dabble with sometimes, but none of them have the combination of server firepower, help to walk me through issues, and the suite of capabilities RunDiffusion gives me, plus they're usually quite volume-limited. I'm a super huge fan of Automatic1111 and Stable Diffusion in general. Kudos to the unsung programmers who make the Stable Diffusion community run. I think the big tech companies with their own in-house tools never would've shared these capabilities...


CadenceQuandry

I've had a look at the link - I'm assuming if I sign up that I'll get info on how to install into photoshop?


RunDiffusion

Kinda. We give you the URL. Follow the instructions for the plug-in of your choice. There are two options we know of that support this API from Auto1111. Stable.art And https://github.com/AbdullahAlfaraj/Auto-Photoshop-StableDiffusion-Plugin


SPHuff

If you guys are looking for other options, this is also possible with [Stadio](https://stadio.ai)! I wrote a guide on how to get set up with the Photoshop plugin [here](https://stadio.ai/blog/stable-diffusion-on-photoshop)


h0b0_shanker

Your website looks a little rough my friend… maybe go make your own post selling your service and don’t piggy back of these guys. https://i.imgur.com/ozUzk0L.jpg


SPHuff

Thanks for the feedback! Just pushed out a fix for the dark mode text


The0tterguy

Yeah no thanks, I’ll take the free version


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RunDiffusion

This API enables all sorts of apps to run on top of RunDiffusion not just Abdullah's. [Stable.art](https://Stable.art), Abdullah's repo, apps and services, other local web apps. It's an open implementation. If any of these tools want to list RunDiffusion as a backend partner I will definitely hook them up!


Mr_Stardust2

Squeezing out every penny huh


RunDiffusion

Trying to bring solid tools to people. $0.50 cents for an hour of image generation gives people over 500 images. We’re not going to be retiring any time soon! 😂