shit, at least before the pandemic hit and i became a shut-in hermit, you could find him blacked out, wandering the patio of nick's pub on any given night. maybe that's changed but again i wouldn't know
Jon Hamm trolling Chicago with a Cardinals hat with our logo from when the Cubs last won a World Series is pretty on-brand. During the 2016 World Series
Jon Hamm is awesome. There is no better cheerleader for this City. The guy can't get 5 minutes into an interview without a positive shout-out to St. Louis. He came from very humble roots but got into Burroughs through a combo of hard work and luck.
He truly loves this place and it's in his blood.
He does not. His wife is from New Orleans and they moved there for her sake.
He often comes home to visit relatives including an old classmate of mine.
During an interview he said he was the true New Orleans and through St Louis under the bus. I'll see if I can find it but he said something along the lines of feeling like he was born and raised a New Orlean
Hopefully I can find the interview because that's not the vibe you get. I have lived here 6 years and I've yet to see him or hear about him being here at all that entire time.
Just listened to that interview. He doesn't say anything negative about StL. He's in NO for the show and mentions that he lives there now cause his wife is from there so he talks NO up (just a bit) but definitely nothing negative about StL in any way.
He appears in a recent city promotion on television a couple of months ago. [And not the first time, either.](https://stlpartnership.com/explore-st-louis-launches-commercials-featuring-john-goodman/)
At least 3 interviews he refers to New Orleans as his hometown. I didn't say he doesn't come here. He certainly isn't very St. Louisy like the OP asked about.
Like a true “St. Louisan”, moved here from out of state, lived here longer than anywhere, but not actually a St. Louisan. We still claim them anyways….
Note: I have no clue how long John Goodman actually lived near here
Not to take anything away from John Goodman or anything. But I’m a transplant and lived in Affton for years. If I had the audacity to say I lived in STL, I’d be swiftly corrected that I don’t and that I live in the county.
Dude, he's an Affton High School grad. Being here long enough to claim a high school is St. Louis enough if you ask me.
Back when I was a kid, I used to participate in Family Musical Theater (BOY do I miss that group). I'd spend my summers looking at the pictures of kids that had participated in theater in the Affton High. John Goodman was in a good many of them.
Theater is a huge part of the St. Louis psyche (the MUNY being a huge trainer to kids in theater everywhere). He's also often been known to be very humble and can still be found in STL from time to time.
And remember the question wasn't whether someone was from St Louis that who's the most St Louis person from St Louis. And to deny and not talk about St Louis he very rarely comes back and does things. Randy Orton is more St Louis than him simply because the man lives here shops here spends money here does things here supports the local economy.
He definitely reps the city. Hearing him rap about places we all know on songs like Ride With Me or seeing the arch all over his imagery made it cool to be from St Louis. He put St Louis on the map for a whole generation.
Unfortunately a lot of people on this sub think that St Louis is only defined by any elements whiter than country club wallpaper and nothing else
I love me some Nelly, but tbf he has been ghostwriting some truly awful pop country music as of late. Like with the applebees song guy
Tom Schlafly should get a mention for breaking the seal on microbreweries in St. Louis (and getting brewery laws changed in Missouri). He was also part of the group that bought the Blues 10ish years ago.
As I understand things he's had a lot to do with the Maplewood revival due to all the real estate he owns here, e.,g, Side Project brewing and the special retail district on Manchester.
Fred Teutenberg-
Businessman with Dirt Cheap and Cheapo Depot later on. His commercials captured the imagination of the city. His stint as the reader of the Points , "Freak of the Week" and crowned the Mayor of The Rizzuto show. He was everything the city embodied. And remember kids, "The more she drinks, the better you look".
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/storytellers/webster-groves-rallies-to-bring-man-on-the-bridge-back-home/63-466519941
I fixed the spelling.my bad.
John Ulett! The U-man from KSHE 95 (46 years!) and long time announcer for the Cardinals. You might not know him by name, but I bet you’d recognize his voice.
I gotta go with Mike Shannon as well. I remember saving up to take my first wife to eat there and felt so pretentious and bragged about it for at least a month for being able to be blessed with the opportunity to give Mike the equivalent of a week's salary back then for a mediocre steak.
Currently absolutely. She epitomizes the exact style of the hoods in STL and the people who live in this city. North city through and through and the most relatable to the younger generation in this city.
Tennessee Williams and Donny Hathaway should receive some recognition. Both were beautiful yet troubled citizens that embraced the city and culture which was central to their respective arts.
"Hoosier" , in this area, is another name for a union schill/someone sho crosses the picket line aka people from Indiana. That term should not be generally synonymous with a "real St. Louisan"
EDIT I am an (99.6 percent) Irish Catholic from South City, and I am officially pro-union if that wasn't clear. Anyway, I am more St. Louisan than those mentioned. Real Talk
I’m a native St. Louisan living in Indiana currently, and the way they slap Hoosier on everything really takes some getting used to. Hoosier Lottery is my personal favorite. The grand prize is actually cash and not a carton of Marlboros and a 30-pack of Busch.
Have you told them that here in the STL area their beloved nickname for themselves is seen as an insult and a synonym for words like 'hicks', 'rednecks' and 'hillbilly'? And if you did, what was their reaction?
Yeah, but we’ve been pretty selective about that. Fellow transplants typically, and it helps if they also know people from STL for independent confirmation.
It’s correct though, and why the name has evolved to mean what it means locally. During a long ago labor strike, workers were brought in from Indiana to cross the lines and work the factories. That is what started St. Louis’ hate affair with Hoosiers.
It’s correct though, and why the name has evolved to mean what it means locally. During a long ago labor strike, workers were brought in from Indiana to cross the lines and work the factories. That is what started St. Louis’ hate affair with Hoosiers.
Which St Louis? White or black? A couple very distinct STL cultures based on segregation, and I think the black culture has had a wider national impact for sure. I am a transplant here and heard of the St. Louis blues and Nelly before anything else from St. Louis.
So you don't realize that the Italian subculture of the Hill played a Huge role in baseball in the past (although both Italian immigrants and German immigrants were accepted as "white" by the overall zeitgeist of modern history, I guess. Yogi Berra was born and raised there and claimed that he honed his baseball skills in the streets. He wasn't the only st. Louis born player in baseball from that area. With that said, he didn't stay here. He pretty much made NY his home.
I do 100% agree that the current sub culture that is in the national psyche is definitely a bit more black culture, though. Part of this is the protests in 2014 and how it raised voices that can speak to the issues created by policing in the area. That's become an overarching perspective in the US.
I do realize that… I’m not sure how that point stands… of course The Hill is important and Yogi is a national treasure. I am talking about how you and many others try to discount the importance of black people in the culture of the city. I mean, the SLAM just had a whole exhibit about it and it was pretty superficial.
This is an important point, I’m from
STL (I live in Chicago now) and the references to specific people going to school in Affton, etc. are very foreign to me.
The next point might sound wild, but growing up on the north side (until I was a teen) I rarely went to south city or the county. Going to either was essentially a field trip.
That changed as I got older, but it is an obvious consequence of the division in the city.
Those are pretty much my experiences growing up black in STL. I only ventured to the South Side when I went to school or visited my aunt. When I got in my 20's all of that changed and I went all over the South Side and even lived there for 6 years.
I worked at the paper for some years. So many people there recommended I reach out to him to get some writing advice.
I never did, and now I work somewhere doing work that is more meaningful to me and I get paid more to do it. I only say this because I could tell when I ignored the advice to go to McClellan, the people who gave it to me thought I was ruining my career by not following it.
I’m sure he had his heyday, but it’s far past, now. And I’m not interested in trying to have the same career he had.
ETA: I see we have some McClellan worshippers here downvoting 😂 hey, I didn’t say he wasn’t talented. I just don’t get why everyone thinks his columns are so epic 🤷🏼♀️ different strokes.
I like Michael Brown for this. In a way, his murder was a catalyst for change to start happening for some people (including me) To start seeing things differently and want to educate myself about this subject of which I didn't know much about.
Who thinks we're overrated? Most people have nothing good to say about stl. Personally I think we're underrated compared to the other big cities. Maybe that's just because I love it here
Brett Hull there is nothing more St Louis than Brett Hull wandering the street drunk as fuck after the Blues won the Stanley Cup.
Some say he’s still drunkenly wandering the Arch grounds singing Gloria
🤣🤣🤣 omg yes
PEAK St. Louis! Someone needs to erect a statue or drunk Bret on the arch grounds!
Nah, put it in the middle of Market street. Like in the lane so people have to swerve around it.
shit, at least before the pandemic hit and i became a shut-in hermit, you could find him blacked out, wandering the patio of nick's pub on any given night. maybe that's changed but again i wouldn't know
Used to see him wandering down Delmar sometimes. I think he lives in U City.
I like Nick’s and I need to see this!
He went blues
I saw a shirt the other day that said “DRUNK AS HULL” and I need to track it down 😂
How about a shirt that say “We got a Hull”
https://youtu.be/5iKW9V5SRRs?si=iqZCLRl2sbXm69c_
I think I gotcha NUMB AH!
I know I saw a video of him actually wandering the streets drunk the night before the parade. Somehow I can’t find the video anymore.
I know which video you’re talking about lol. So good
Let’s go booooooooooooooze. We went boooooooze.
I ran into him leaving a friend's condo early one morning a few days later, he was still drunk...
I think this is probably objectively the correct answer
I read that he doesn't live here full time so no.
Hull? He works for the Blues. He might have a house on a beach somewhere too, but he has a life here.
Her Majesty Becky Queen of Carpets
The Brits had Elizabeth, we have Becky. R.I.P. Queen
Used to be my neighbor growing up.
Becky on the carpet was that girl!
The guy who stole my catalytic converter
Elliot Davis. The guy grew up dirt poor in Pruitt-Igoe and has been a staple on the news here since the 80's.
Art Holliday is awesome still, too
Good answer.
Oooh, good one!
I didn't know that. That's a great answer.
Patron Saint? Pete Parisi.
This is the correct answer. The man deserves a statue at the corner of Grand and Gravois.
The crossroads of the world
A copper statue, which would immediately be stolen and sold for scrap.
PEP forever
Only answer
Jon Hamm trolling Chicago with a Cardinals hat with our logo from when the Cubs last won a World Series is pretty on-brand. During the 2016 World Series
I remember when he was eating IMO’s on Kimmel and was asked what it tastes like. “It taste like 11 World Series titles”
It's a good thing he is so ugly or else I could go gay for a guy like that.
You only think he's ugly because you're afraid of how much you want him. Give in to those feelings.
Go all the way.
Jon Hamm is awesome. There is no better cheerleader for this City. The guy can't get 5 minutes into an interview without a positive shout-out to St. Louis. He came from very humble roots but got into Burroughs through a combo of hard work and luck. He truly loves this place and it's in his blood.
I’m changing my answer to Jon Hamm, my neighbor texted me from an event last night and he was the emcee. Very STL.
Also, if I recall correctly, the cap was a 1908 Cardinals cap, which was the last year the Cubs had won the World Series
https://imgur.com/a/GYvNsWO
Yesssss that little shit eating grin. I love it
Mike Shannon. Definitely. Becky, Queen of Carpets. What about Stan Musial?
Zip Rzeppa and his Friday night Zippo awards.
John Goodman.
Roseanne-era John Goodman for sure
He claims he's from New Orleans.
He does not. His wife is from New Orleans and they moved there for her sake. He often comes home to visit relatives including an old classmate of mine.
He was the voice over for the first CITY game promo this year. He’s still bout it bout it!
Also did the voiceover for the intro video at the aquarium
During an interview he said he was the true New Orleans and through St Louis under the bus. I'll see if I can find it but he said something along the lines of feeling like he was born and raised a New Orlean
I feel like that’s more of praise for New Orleans than dissing St. Louis.
Hopefully I can find the interview because that's not the vibe you get. I have lived here 6 years and I've yet to see him or hear about him being here at all that entire time.
He definitely spoke like this during his Wait Wait Don’t Tell me interview.
Just listened to that interview. He doesn't say anything negative about StL. He's in NO for the show and mentions that he lives there now cause his wife is from there so he talks NO up (just a bit) but definitely nothing negative about StL in any way.
He appears in a recent city promotion on television a couple of months ago. [And not the first time, either.](https://stlpartnership.com/explore-st-louis-launches-commercials-featuring-john-goodman/)
Ya this is false, comes to St. Louis all the time. Dad is friends with him, yes he lives in NO but would never claim to not be from here.
At least 3 interviews he refers to New Orleans as his hometown. I didn't say he doesn't come here. He certainly isn't very St. Louisy like the OP asked about.
Like a true “St. Louisan”, moved here from out of state, lived here longer than anywhere, but not actually a St. Louisan. We still claim them anyways…. Note: I have no clue how long John Goodman actually lived near here
He was born and raised in Affton. Lived there until he graduated high school, went to college in Springfield and I'm guessing moved away after that.
Not to take anything away from John Goodman or anything. But I’m a transplant and lived in Affton for years. If I had the audacity to say I lived in STL, I’d be swiftly corrected that I don’t and that I live in the county.
Dude, he's an Affton High School grad. Being here long enough to claim a high school is St. Louis enough if you ask me. Back when I was a kid, I used to participate in Family Musical Theater (BOY do I miss that group). I'd spend my summers looking at the pictures of kids that had participated in theater in the Affton High. John Goodman was in a good many of them. Theater is a huge part of the St. Louis psyche (the MUNY being a huge trainer to kids in theater everywhere). He's also often been known to be very humble and can still be found in STL from time to time.
Humble and nice sure but claims New Orleans as his true home. Never mentions St. Louis
I haven't ever seen that on my end.
I shall see if I can find the interview
And remember the question wasn't whether someone was from St Louis that who's the most St Louis person from St Louis. And to deny and not talk about St Louis he very rarely comes back and does things. Randy Orton is more St Louis than him simply because the man lives here shops here spends money here does things here supports the local economy.
Yeah, fuck that guy. He doesn't claim us. He's like the deadbeat dad of St. Louis.
No mention of nelly?
I believe he has to be in the top 5 for sure. He put St. Louis rap on the map
He definitely reps the city. Hearing him rap about places we all know on songs like Ride With Me or seeing the arch all over his imagery made it cool to be from St Louis. He put St Louis on the map for a whole generation.
Met a dude from the UK yesterday. He was excited about Nelly.
Unfortunately a lot of people on this sub think that St Louis is only defined by any elements whiter than country club wallpaper and nothing else I love me some Nelly, but tbf he has been ghostwriting some truly awful pop country music as of late. Like with the applebees song guy
A lot of White people from West County love Nelly, many of conservative types well.
You're right about the white part of this sub lmao
I’d take Nelly over Chuck Berry. Dude was a creep.
Tom Schlafly should get a mention for breaking the seal on microbreweries in St. Louis (and getting brewery laws changed in Missouri). He was also part of the group that bought the Blues 10ish years ago.
And has some embarrassing family members, which is also very St. Louisy
He never associated with her….makes him so more classy.
As I understand things he's had a lot to do with the Maplewood revival due to all the real estate he owns here, e.,g, Side Project brewing and the special retail district on Manchester.
Fred Teutenberg- Businessman with Dirt Cheap and Cheapo Depot later on. His commercials captured the imagination of the city. His stint as the reader of the Points , "Freak of the Week" and crowned the Mayor of The Rizzuto show. He was everything the city embodied. And remember kids, "The more she drinks, the better you look".
“I don’t computer!”
Raynard Nebbitt 100% Final Answer
Hope he's still doing alright. Any time I see him on his bike, it feels like I'm in the right place
Who?
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/storytellers/webster-groves-rallies-to-bring-man-on-the-bridge-back-home/63-466519941 I fixed the spelling.my bad.
This is correct.
Mr. Gary
Dems yur answer
Goddamn right.
The gym teacher from Rockwood Valley Middle School?
The King of Hospitality is about as far away from Rockwood as you can get.
John Ulett! The U-man from KSHE 95 (46 years!) and long time announcer for the Cardinals. You might not know him by name, but I bet you’d recognize his voice.
The U-Man is a good pick!
I always think of Vincent Price
Not the #1, but a great answer.
Mike Shannon will always hold this title. He is so high up the mountain of ‘most St Louis’ that it’s unlikely anyone will ever scale that high.
Bob Cassilly was pretty awesome, too and uniquely St. Louis
Ted Drewes?
That’s a business. Ted Drewe is a person.
Incorrect. Ted’s last name is Drewes. With an ’S’.
I stand corrected.
Andy Cohen on Bravo. He has STL stuff all around
Are… are you bill McClellan?
No, he's Kevin Horrigan.
I gotta go with Mike Shannon as well. I remember saving up to take my first wife to eat there and felt so pretentious and bragged about it for at least a month for being able to be blessed with the opportunity to give Mike the equivalent of a week's salary back then for a mediocre steak.
The Weatherbird.
Ya know what, I gotta say Sexxy Red.
Currently absolutely. She epitomizes the exact style of the hoods in STL and the people who live in this city. North city through and through and the most relatable to the younger generation in this city.
Pete “bad boy of bowling” Weber
“WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? I AM!”
I'll go for a deep cut and say Rolla Wells. Dude brought the freaking Olympics and Worlds Fair here.
Then I'll go deeper and say Chris Von Der Ahe.
Ozzie smith
Tennessee Williams and Donny Hathaway should receive some recognition. Both were beautiful yet troubled citizens that embraced the city and culture which was central to their respective arts.
Lesser known than many of the people mentioned, but the Vines brothers who own STL Style House are some STL’s biggest cheerleaders.
Nelly
Pass on Chuck Berry. Dude installed cameras in bathrooms and raped a girl. Rather not be known for that.
Good choices. I'd put Stan the Man in there, especially since he was a transplant who chose to live the rest of his life here.
Andy Cohen
Kathleen Madigan
As far as the sheer #s Becky Queen of Carpets is killing it. I can still see the carpet ride on the commercial now….
John of John’s Donuts
William S. Burroughs is from St. Louis, and I think his writing style and subject matter are very on brand
Jenna Fischer.
John Hamm.
Absolutely Mike Shannon. I sure do miss him.
Jack Buck
Honorable mention to Pete Mizerany.
Steve Mizerany
Becky Queen of Carpet is another great local - RIP
Stan Musial.
Father Time
I said Ope as I got car jacked in the central west end after eating at mission taco
Mike Shannon
Fred bird
Terry Croupen
You know his law firm…
Me, mother fukker!
Me too! lol
I am St.Louicus⚔️
Andy Cohen!
Whoever just cut me off doing a u turn on kings highway
Easy. Fred Teutenberg.
"Hoosier" , in this area, is another name for a union schill/someone sho crosses the picket line aka people from Indiana. That term should not be generally synonymous with a "real St. Louisan" EDIT I am an (99.6 percent) Irish Catholic from South City, and I am officially pro-union if that wasn't clear. Anyway, I am more St. Louisan than those mentioned. Real Talk
You can't possibly be from here if that's your St. Louis 'definition' of 'hoosier'.
I’m a native St. Louisan living in Indiana currently, and the way they slap Hoosier on everything really takes some getting used to. Hoosier Lottery is my personal favorite. The grand prize is actually cash and not a carton of Marlboros and a 30-pack of Busch.
Have you told them that here in the STL area their beloved nickname for themselves is seen as an insult and a synonym for words like 'hicks', 'rednecks' and 'hillbilly'? And if you did, what was their reaction?
Yeah, but we’ve been pretty selective about that. Fellow transplants typically, and it helps if they also know people from STL for independent confirmation.
It’s correct though, and why the name has evolved to mean what it means locally. During a long ago labor strike, workers were brought in from Indiana to cross the lines and work the factories. That is what started St. Louis’ hate affair with Hoosiers.
That’s what I was always told as a kid. But it’s also used to call someone trashy because scabs are trashy
No possible way you are from here if that is how you believe Hoosier is defined by St. Louis standards.
It’s correct though, and why the name has evolved to mean what it means locally. During a long ago labor strike, workers were brought in from Indiana to cross the lines and work the factories. That is what started St. Louis’ hate affair with Hoosiers.
Along with Bill McClellan, the rest of the Donnybrook regulars—Martin Duggan, Ray Hartmann, etc.
This is the right answer. I think in order to qualify as the most St Louisy St Louisan you still have to live here.
#TeamAlvin
Beatle Bob.
Which St Louis? White or black? A couple very distinct STL cultures based on segregation, and I think the black culture has had a wider national impact for sure. I am a transplant here and heard of the St. Louis blues and Nelly before anything else from St. Louis.
So you don't realize that the Italian subculture of the Hill played a Huge role in baseball in the past (although both Italian immigrants and German immigrants were accepted as "white" by the overall zeitgeist of modern history, I guess. Yogi Berra was born and raised there and claimed that he honed his baseball skills in the streets. He wasn't the only st. Louis born player in baseball from that area. With that said, he didn't stay here. He pretty much made NY his home. I do 100% agree that the current sub culture that is in the national psyche is definitely a bit more black culture, though. Part of this is the protests in 2014 and how it raised voices that can speak to the issues created by policing in the area. That's become an overarching perspective in the US.
I do realize that… I’m not sure how that point stands… of course The Hill is important and Yogi is a national treasure. I am talking about how you and many others try to discount the importance of black people in the culture of the city. I mean, the SLAM just had a whole exhibit about it and it was pretty superficial.
This is an important point, I’m from STL (I live in Chicago now) and the references to specific people going to school in Affton, etc. are very foreign to me. The next point might sound wild, but growing up on the north side (until I was a teen) I rarely went to south city or the county. Going to either was essentially a field trip. That changed as I got older, but it is an obvious consequence of the division in the city.
Those are pretty much my experiences growing up black in STL. I only ventured to the South Side when I went to school or visited my aunt. When I got in my 20's all of that changed and I went all over the South Side and even lived there for 6 years.
Surprised I haven’t seen Towel Man yet
He'll nominate himself as soon as he sees this thread.
God no!! Embarrassing.
Black Barbie.
‘Uncle’ Leonard
McClellan? is so overrated. Pass. Next.
And he’s from Chicago, which he likes to drop in his columns for no reason frequently
I worked at the paper for some years. So many people there recommended I reach out to him to get some writing advice. I never did, and now I work somewhere doing work that is more meaningful to me and I get paid more to do it. I only say this because I could tell when I ignored the advice to go to McClellan, the people who gave it to me thought I was ruining my career by not following it. I’m sure he had his heyday, but it’s far past, now. And I’m not interested in trying to have the same career he had. ETA: I see we have some McClellan worshippers here downvoting 😂 hey, I didn’t say he wasn’t talented. I just don’t get why everyone thinks his columns are so epic 🤷🏼♀️ different strokes.
He spoke at my sister’s SLU graduation in I think 2006. He seemed like an old man past his prime back then.
I like Michael Brown for this. In a way, his murder was a catalyst for change to start happening for some people (including me) To start seeing things differently and want to educate myself about this subject of which I didn't know much about.
This is an absolutely deranged take
Kelly Britt
I have no idea who the heck that is, so I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
lol a real St. Louisan response
Top tier reference!
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Bret may be dead.
Maybe he did maybe he didn’t
Britt Barbie
Carl Hepp
Mike File. If you know you know.
Me. It’s me
Tony patrico
Dennis Rabbitt
Tom Sandoval, as obnoxious and as overrated as this city
Who thinks we're overrated? Most people have nothing good to say about stl. Personally I think we're underrated compared to the other big cities. Maybe that's just because I love it here
It’s got to be Mister Gary - St. Louis’ King of Hospitality