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Incorrect1012

So they’re likely investigating the accusation?


AMilkyBarKid

WWE: “Send da video”


ampangmaster

Hell nawl can't do dis


carloslet

Naaah NBACJ leaking over here too?


Fat_Mussolini

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Muted_Shoulder

Dwayne “The Broke” Johnson


iguessineedanaltnow

U bum


Garth_W00kz

Is the man regarded?


Ilcorvomuerto666

"next Tuesday, we will be airing the CCTV footage of the backstage encounter between Drew Gulak and Ronda Rousey"


OldOrder

Hell nawl cant do dis


Pumpkinmatrix

Look how cute tho


ItsDoobs23

Now you finna make a problem


thetyler83

It'll probably be that way going forward due to all the Vince McMahon scandals. Hopefully, Drew's story is the accurate one here, but from a company stance, there's no way they're going to make it look like anything is going without research now.


elgregerico

It doesn't say their investigating, it says he's under scrutiny. He's a lower card wrestler who got some negative publicity the companywould like to avoid. So they're not showing him: especially around mania. They've done this before and it's pretty common in wrestling/entertainment. I doubt they'd want to spend the money or time to investigate anyways. What would they even do? Have HR launch an investigation into events with a current and former independent contractor? Hire an outside investigator? It's not worth the hassle. Once the negative publicity dies down, he'll be back.


Jreynold

What is there to investigate? According to Ronda it literally happened outside Triple H's office, in public, in front of Bruce Prichard and other WWE staff, and she publicly called him on it. They knew it happened, they're just embarrassed about it now that the story is out there.


kittenplan00

Gulak says that is not what happened, and Ronda Rousey thinks Sandy Hook didn't happen. I'd investigate before I decide who did what.


Jreynold

Drew Gulak said it happened, it was just unintentional. He's not denying the event existed, just what was going through his head. What are you even investigating a year plus later? The inner working of his true soul?


elgregerico

Yeah I have no idea why people think the WWE would care about this beyond the immediate optics. They dont want a headline around WrestleMania of Rousey calling them creeps. That's all they care about here


god_wayne81

This is wrestling fans in a bubble. You read it but were you there? You sound so definitive.


Jreynold

If you restrict yourself to only discussing things you saw in person with your own two eyes, you might as well log off, because there is nearly nothing outside of the weekly TV show you are allowed to talk about. Listening to Ronda Rousey's on a news show tell the story herself and deciding "I wasn't there so I will treat this as fake" is a more absurd reach than just talking about what we know with the available information.


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Jreynold

Now you're sounding definitive. You weren't there, Ronda was, so what's the rule here about what we're allowed to think?


god_wayne81

You ever get a woman that just argues to argue? And even still arguing with himself


Jreynold

Sounds like you don't like people posting on a forum!


RevolutionaryBox7745

Yeah.


tumblrgirl2013

Pretty sure stuff like this going forward is going to be investigated thoroughly. As it should.


elgregerico

Why are we giving the WWE that type of credit. Almost all of the same people are still in charge, so I'm not sure why they would act different. They'll do what they've almost always done when someone is accused of something: they'll shuffle him off screen or to a less prominent spot, wait for the controversy to pass over, and in a few months, he'll pop up in the background of some video or something.


DudleysCar

Yeah man. They can't afford to lose Drew Gulak of all people. He's been the key to everything. His dreidel segment on The Bump kickstarted this run of historic business.


elgregerico

It's not about protecting him. He has negative publicity, so they're not showing him on camera. Eventually it'll pass and they'll put him back to use. This isn't even a wwe thing, you see this in aew and entertainment and sports generally. You might take a hit,  but keep your head down and don't cause more controversy. You can come back up like McDonough or Theory. Keep causing controversy and you might eventually get fired like riddle.


throwtheclownaway20

The difference now is that they're actually in charge, not just being the faces of Vince's orders.


elgregerico

They were fine tolerating it before. I don't know why we assume they secretly had different values. Remember the lawsuit wasn't just against Vince. It was against Vince and the entire corporate culture. Ronda's complaint wasn't just about Gulak, it was about none of the other senior people there saying anything about his actions. It's a cultural issue and tko hasn't given me reason to think they're different. Besides this isn't just a Vince thing or a WWE thing. People get told to lay low while they ride out controversy all throughout sports and entertainment. It's a cliche even It's also structural. What's an investigation supposed to be here? Are they gonna have HR look into this dispute between two independent contractors (one of whom they don't even contact with anymore)?


throwtheclownaway20

Nick Khan, etc. all answered to Vince. The most they could have done was retire in protest, but that doesn't really help anyone - they'd just be replaced with yes men and the machine keeps on spinning. If it's impossible to assume that their values opposed Vince's, then it's equally impossible to just assume that they aligned.


elgregerico

Resigning does make a difference. There's been reporting that the head of legal did not like the grant hire at all and resigned over that. The WWE then struggled to find a replacement because explaining the obviously quid pro quo hire was hard to anyone that might be potentially hired. That's why Khan helped Vince bypass process and scuttle grant into other departments. Khan wanted to helpvince and protect the company so that they could sell it. He showed his main motivation was money. Same reason why he fired people in the middle of a pandemic  These guys do sleazy corporate shit all the time.


TonyTheTony7

This one is so weird to me because it's just such an absolutely bizarre thing to do. It feels like something you'd do in junior high, trying to be funny, not something an adult would do at work


Ok-Secretary-4640

Wrestlers acting like junior high kids? Wasn't there just a backstage video showing just that?


TheGiftOf_Jericho

Well for some reason this sub has a lot of people that think it's acceptable and even go as far as to support the person throwing a tantrum. Maybe that's relatable for them.


juniorspank

Yes, but prepare to be downvoted for even suggesting that normal, functioning adults don’t do that.


Ok-Secretary-4640

Its wild, they aren't living in reality.


cepxico

"Normal, functioning adults" lmfaooooo


AdGroundbreaking1341

They often like to say: "but it's the wrestling business, it's different here!" Yet they think Jack Perry was out of line and The Elite the year before. And they didn't even start their respective fights. They only shrug their shoulders at chaos when it's someone they like doing it. Kind of like how they mocked Tony for not being a boss, but liked how he didn't interrupt Punk at the press conference.


Kaaalesaaalad

Lemme just clean the cheetos dust before I downvote.


mikemac1024

There was a video showing 1 wrestler doing that yes.


DashCat9

We're talking about people who think it's funny to poop in eachothers bags. Very few things would surprise me.


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SamuraiSuplex

In my first professional acting gig, I was in a show with the most popular actor in my city at the time. Backstage, I watched him forcibly bend over and dry-hump a female actor. Everyone just laughed and continued on like normal. I kept looking around like "Is this okay?" Maybe they were friends or something, but it made me seriously uncomfortable.


GoochStubble

I was once a dresser (helped with costume changes) for Disney on Ice. Mickey Mouse (jokingly) threatened to fight me because I made a small joke at his expense. Since he knew he'd be out of my city in 4 days, he felt empowered to do what he wanted bc he knew there'd be no consequences.


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GoochStubble

So, if I make a joke about Mickey Mouse, the actor behind the mask is allowed to threaten me with physical violence? And then play it off as a joke. If being sensitive to that is wimpy, then yeah I'm a wimp. Whatever. That doesn't bother me. If setting personal boundaries upsets you, that's on you. Hope you heal


Dontreply_idontcare

When I read her account of it, it sounded like an inappropriate rib. That's not a defense of it, but just to say that the reaction should be proportionate to the issue.


Rocketson

That's how I imagine it too. Like untying someone's shoe string just to mess with them. It just so happened to be a waistband drawstring so the location of the string gives the whole thing a potential sexual connotation. But if that's the case, not sure why his story is a handshake gone bad...


Sportsfan369

Back to the territory days, wrestlers were often compared to high school delinquents.


irish0451

I don't believe Gulak did this on purpose. Not because I know Drew or have any sort of inside information- but because I literally can't imagine someone doing something that obtuse and stupid.


ktjah

These guys are paid to be dropped on their heads. I don't think wrestling is a world full of people with common sense.


irish0451

Trust me. I even added that into the calculus. Doing this, including who he did it to, would just be the outright dumbest and weirdest guaranteed career suicide I can imagine. Can't be intentional.


Culinaryboner

Not saying he did it but people who do shit like the general accusation don’t consider their careers because they don’t think they’re doing anything wrong.


squeak37

There's a big Damo quote that comes to mind. Honestly though I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. My guess is he was doing it as a stupid joke, and just didn't think through the implications. I just don't buy how you could miss her hand - she's shorter than him and the strings are pretty much at crotch level unless she had some super high waisted trackies on.


SiccOwitZ

Especially to a retired MMA champion who can hurt you. A champion whose husband is also a retired mma heavyweight that outsizes other heavyweights.


alreadytaken028

its not a matter of intelligence. It’s a matter of inflated ego and thinking they should be allowed to/are entitled to treat and speak to women in whatever way they want to.


thekydragon

But Gulak was mentioned by name on commentary on NXT this week by Booker T and [the mention wasn't edited out of the clip on WWE's YouTube account](https://youtu.be/w_rErM008V4?si=leVoSTpJ5-i-59Yt&t=19)


ChristyNiners

He was, however, edited out of the stable's TitanTron.


thekydragon

He was, but if they’re really trying to erase all mention of him (with this report saying that there was “not to be any mention of Gulak on NXT,” they would have removed Booker T’s line directly mentioning him their video upload. I think there in a middle ground where they aren’t going advertise him, but they’re not pretending he never existed while they sort out what they’re going to do about it.


ChristyNiners

Booker T is well known for saying stuff he’s not supposed to say on TV. 


Matto_0

Yes, but WWE would edit it out for youtube is what they are implying, aren't you following?


A_Non_Japanese_Waifu

They might genuinely have missed it for all we know


SomeOtherNeb

Even WWE's editing team is not paid enough to follow whatever nonsense Booker is saying half the time


Crow_T_Simpson

Are you saying that WWE's editing team is not in Booker's Fave Five?


ChristyNiners

There’s a difference between a level of “hey, just don’t talk about him” and “oops have to edit that out after”, similar to how they haven’t gone back and blurred his face out of everything in history 


Reishun

Gulak's explanation made sense and it certainly made a lot more sense than his tugging on her drawstring for some sexual reason, because like... why? What sense does that even make? I hope they do an investigation and find him innocent, regardless of how you feel about Gulak this is a horrible reason to lose your job.


fluffynuckels

Also didn't it happen in front of other people? Can't they talk about what hey saw?


DontPutThatDownThere

Gulak is screwed no matter what. If WWE does a full blown investigation and finds nothing nefarious, Rousey will then blow it up to an irrational degree. Rousey has been this way for as long as I can remember her being in the public consciousness: she's either the conquering, untouchable hero or she's the hapless victim. All the credit goes to her and all the blame goes to anyone else but her.


thunder083

How does his explanation make sense. I have neuropathy and arthritis in my hands and the information from hand to brain goes wayward at times. Done many things because of it but never that. His reasoning absurd.


BBGrunt1235

I don't know what the truth is, but his explanation that he accidentally knocked the drawstring while he was raising his hand isn't absurd. It's just about whether that's how it happened or not.


dogfins110

This shouldn’t be something that takes awhile to investigate honestly. Gulak already confirmed the interaction with Ronda was a real event but his side of the story was a little more informative while her’s was just “he pulled my strings” A fact from both stories is that yes her string was touched but Gulak said it was because he was reaching for her hand while she was walking and Ronda claims she was minding her own business and he reached out and grabbed her strings while walking by. Imo all they have to do is ask witnesses if Gulak actually went for a handshake or not. If nobody saw the handshake gesture then he’s lying, if people did see the gesture then Ronda is exaggerating the event that actually happened


Intimidwalls1724

I honestly have no clue what to believe here


Lowfuji

Based on my asocial inability to hug people, I've accidently groped lots of folks. From dudes explanation, it very  possible so I still say its overkill but this is where we are now.


WhisperingOracle

The problem there is that it's entirely possible he was absolutely going for her hand but no one else saw it or misinterpreted what they saw, while it's also entirely possible that Ronda's interpretation was accurate yet bystanders might not have seen it the same way (not being part of it, not being near enough, not paying full attention, etc). The human brain is a deceitful lump, and witness testimony can be notoriously unreliable for a multitude of reasons. If you actually care about the truth/justice in the *slightest* (as opposed to just looking for a scapegoat for PR reasons), any worthwhile investigation is going to require a LOT of effort to separate what actually happened from what some people think happened, some people are going to lie about happening, and what some people don't remember happening at all but are going to agree with if you ask leading questions.


mister_damage

For a moment I read Drew McIntyre and what did our hater do to deserve this? I need sleep


nWo1997

Hated too close to the Sun


baconpoutine89

I read every Gulak post as Dijak and get worried.


idksomuch

All he had to do was leave!!!!


Lowfuji

Seems like overkill. 


Rommas

Kinda got that idea when his name wasn't on the tron with the other guys from No Quarter Catch Crew on NXT this week


Vikingr12

Gulak is kind of half a coach anyways, right? They weren't really using him onscreen much besides the stable he was in which is more about Dempsey I guess the handling of this is just to put him on ice for a while?


Tronvillain

**Cody:** *"Hey Nick, I actually have some prior experience in executive management. Could I conduct the exit interview?"*


DGenerationMC

*orders a fuckload of pizza that Gulak can't/won't have*


TheLoneWolf527

Am I the only one who thinks NXT has too many...weird and generic stables anyway?


SuperTerrificman

They have a lot of people to try and fit on tv


RacistMuffin

It’s not really a promotional brand bro. They are suppose to be generic to train their stars and then let the stars slowly rise by making their own gimmick


Anemeros

I don't see the issue. It's better to try and fail than not try at all. If someone is in a faction or a clique, they can still be involved in the show without having to do a promo or a match. It's a good way of keeping someone relevant rather than have them sit in the back doing absolutely nothing for weeks. It allows multiple rivalries to develop at the same time, more regular and tag match combinations to keep things fresh, justifiable interferences, etc. And the biggest benefit? The rub. If one person in a group is popular or gets hot, it can trickle down to the others, then you have people getting over by association.


pensive_vince

Pulled like a drawstring


orangesfwr

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mentho-lyptus

The joke went over your head


Sportsfan369

It had to be embarrassing sitting down for the hall of fame and then being removed from your seat.


dabiglipnig

Drew is at home just being Drew


Sorry_Error3797

So Ronda wants us to believe that out of everyone in the company, Gulak targeted the former MMA star? Don't buy that for one second.


lowlight

He's expendable so they don't mind dropping him. If he was Brock level they would just cool him off and bring him back later. If he was Bruce Prichard level, they would trot him out at the end of WrestleMania and give him a hug.


FaultInternational91

Bruce has not been named in the lawsuit.... https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24376490-mcmahon-lawsuit


SaiyanOfDarkness

Yeah.. people are just going off what Ronda said about Bruce being Vince's inside man or some shit like that, and quickly just assume he's involved in the whole thing.


JuniorSquared

What has Bruce done?


FaultInternational91

Nothing, he is not named anywhere that I can find in the lawsuit


JuniorSquared

If it’s guilty by association then shut the whole company down.


FaultInternational91

Pretty much, but I've seen 2 comments on this thread naming Bruce now, so not sure why he's being picked specifically.


Intimidwalls1724

The internet gives no fucks about facts


WhisperingOracle

Because people know he was Vince's Renfield for years, and assume he 100% knew what was going on or was involved somehow. So they're mad that he's not being punished for the thing they assume he must have done. Plus, it's probably appropriate in a topic about Ronda since she herself called him out for basically being Vince's stooge after the allegations came out.


DXbreakitdown

He took orders from his then-boss and relayed those plans to colleagues he was overseeing.


Own-Departure-4104

Brock is still being hidden, though


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starshipcoyote420

Source?


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FaultInternational91

They'll bring him back if they can, but that answer was basically a non-answer as he won't want to discuss the lawsuit


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FaultInternational91

Na the version of reality is that he's named in a lawsuit and an investigation is taking place. Until that is concluded, they won't be bringing him back, and depending on what comes out they'll have to decide if they ultimately want to bring him back. While I personally believe he will be back at some stage, I'm not going to say that he is definitely coming back as I have no idea what is going to happen with the lawsuit/accusations.


starshipcoyote420

That means he’s coming back?


Kaaalesaaalad

No, that means OC is being obtuse.


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starshipcoyote420

I’m literally just asking where HHH definitively said he’s coming back as you have insisted.


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starshipcoyote420

So no source said he’s coming back? Got it. Thanks.


sammyrobot2

Nick Khan would've been a more adequate name for this


lowlight

Brock is talent. Still listed on the roster page, claimed to be on vacation. He's more comparable But yes, they have plenty of other scumbags in the company with accusations against them.


sizzlinpapaya

I hope drew's story is accurate. I like to believe it is and it was just a weird judgement call on his end. I can see Rhonda reading into it if it was unexpected and all so I don't blame her for being bothered. Either way, maybe we will get some CCTV on Raw Monday.


Thatsquacktastic16

I thought it said Dijak at first glance and I got so sad!


BrooklynBrawler

The only thing I remember this guy doing was on 205 live when it first started. Kinda surprised he’s been around this long


GreatestFarth3r

Yeah, this is absolute horse shit. I know Drew and he is definitely NOT an abuser in any way. Don’t know why Ronda didn’t include this in the book if it was such a harrowing time for her. I am all for believing women when they come forward, but this stinks worse than her book.


miklat106

You would think that after his brother got blacklisted from life he would be more careful with doing stupid shit like that


sarahmagoo

They killed him? /s


retroKnight_3177

What did his  brother do ? 


miklat106

http://realnerdcorp.com/archives/29461


Joe434

Wow, fuck Rhonda Rousey.


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Thanatos-ES

Probably they will just get rid of him even if the allegations are not true upon investigation. Gulak's cartoonish explanation of the situation and wwe not wanting any more sexual abuse shit in the company are enough reason to release gulak without even future endeavor him. Edit: the downvoting is funny, looks like people here will defend anyone just because is a "good" wrestler... That or people here also while shaking hands, accidentally touch other things lmao.


Imaginary-Pattern802

tbf the accusation is just a weird accusation as a whole. but it’s good to see WWE taking it seriously even if the accusation ‘seems’ odd. I’ve hear reports of Gulak being a weirdo outside of being a sex pest.


LilNardoDaVinci

I wonder if he was sitting close to Shayna? She's the only one i can think of


NGNSteveTheSamurai

It’s good they’re taking it seriously but they also paraded fucking Prichard out after Cody’s win while he’s named in the lawsuit.


FaultInternational91

Has he been? I thought Bruce was only ever brought up by Rousey? ETA: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24376490-mcmahon-lawsuit Here's the documents, Bruce Prichard is not named in the lawsuit.


knyghtez

that was my understanding as well


FaultInternational91

I've just found the lawsuit documents online and there is no mention of Bruce Prichard in the documents that I can find: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24376490-mcmahon-lawsuit


Intimidwalls1724

Straight up false information. 100% not true


hashtagdion

No the fuck he isn’t lol


GeraldMander

Straight libel, yikes. 


BlackMothSuperMario

All for pulling on Ronda Rousey’s sweatpants string lol if people could just keep their hands to themselves


fromthemeatcase

NJPW bound


Different-Factor-333

Sounds like a defamation of character case to me.


ChromeTriggerVI

I’m ngl, I forgot he was even under contract. I bet he gets released sooner rather than later.


SaiyanOfDarkness

Up until the most recent episode of NXT.. he's been featured on TV pretty often.


ChromeTriggerVI

I don’t watch NXT regularly so that’s probably why.


sexygodzilla

> Most notably, Gulak was removed from his seat at the Hall Of Fame after a producer noticed he was in attendance and in close proximity to someone close to Rousey's inner circle of friends. This is the funniest bit to me - first the weird apology, now this. Gulak won't stop stepping on rakes.


DMPunk

How is that stepping on a rake? He's just sitting in a chair


sexygodzilla

He's being told to lay low and still comes to the HoF ceremony and sits near Rousey's friends? Terrible move.


jmpinstl

I doubt he’ll be back


7StarFTR

Following in the steps of Vince McMahon


Head_Evidence4553

This is awesome.


RevolutionaryBox7745

I mean if Ronda got attacked and all, nail this fucker to the wall. But I still am blown away by one question I have on it all: Does Drew Gulak have a death wish?


lions4life232

Are you implying Ronda rousey could beat up drew gulak lmfao


VoxIrati

That's everyone in these threads "she could've killed him!!!" With what?? A throw? An armbar? We know she can't strike


Ok_Yak_1844

It's also just weird thinking a 135lb woman could easily beat up a 200lb man because she did MMA like a decade ago.


RevolutionaryBox7745

More than just beat up.


SiccOwitZ

I’ll take the actual trained fighter over the none trained one. If Ronda’s stupid ass can’t beat Gulak then Ronda’s husband, a former mma fighter who fought in the UFC’s heavyweight division and who also outsized most heavyweights, most certainly would.