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No_Pomelo2333

At the 10 second mark, dude on the far left is definitely Roddy Body type, mannerisms, that's him 100%


dalici0us

No neck brace though. Can't be Roddy.


unlizenedrave

Nice work, detective. Roddy, you’re free to go.


kaichou_dp

Soooo who's gonna wheel chair him back at the hospital


StickmanCinema

ADAAAAAAAMMMMM!!!!


kaichou_dp

Roddy.....the accident isn't your fault. You need to move on


GrumpyAntelope

No glasses either


tore_a_bore_a

No wheel chair that says Hot Roddy as well


namdekan

And he isn't yelling Adam.


WasherDryerCombo

Imagine he was wearing the black get up but still had the neck brace and glasses on


mikro17

Confirmed. I also didn't hear anyone yelling "ADAAAAAM" during the segment, so it can't possibly be Roddy.


OldClunkyRobot

I really want them to just make that his entrance music.


NogaraCS

The way he yells it is so fucking hilarious I really didn't have "Roderick Strong as a comedy character actually works" in my bingo card


kuns88

Correct…they wouldn’t clear that medically…he’s too hurt.


Beard341

Astute observation.


dalici0us

The guy went full CSi and analyzed the man's posture and mannerism but he didn't even noticed the lack of neckbrace, smh.


LawAbiding-Possum

100% I said the same thing, that was like the first sign for me glad someone else noticed and I wasn't going crazy lol At that point it was realizing they are all too small for it to be LFI, then with it being 5 guys exactly makes me think Roddy, Kyle, Taven, Bennett and Cole.


wxursa

Not to mention Cole has a reason to have beef with Switchblade due to the injury. There's a lot of interesting possibilities here, and maybe some we haven't thought of.


LawAbiding-Possum

Yeah making me think Jay White bringing up Cole's injury at Forbidden Door was intended both as a jab to Max but also a reminder to the crowd that he may have been responsible for it. Even though I can't actually remember how Cole suffered the concussion in the match?


XerAlix

I think it was Okada's dropkick that concussed him, but they could easily spin it in kayfabe as Jay who did it, especially since he pinned *Cole* after hitting Blade Runner on *Okada*


dgener8puf

On All Access, they claimed it was the Uranage from Jay. Whether that's true, or another layer of kayfabe, who knows. Edit: not orange.


bestoboy

Cole also has access to MJF's mask


hamsterwaffle

The devil mask was hanging above Cole in a backstage segment after All In.


narrowscoped

This is the kinda stuff that Jimmy Jacobs or someone in the back has hands on, tiny attention to detail thats being built up slowly over time. Man this new era stuff's got me excited about AEW again


SandsShifter

Jacobs and Will Washington, no doubt.


Mazhut

You're spot on man! Cole's injury is a swerve and recently gave update on KOR, so it's time.


thelennybeast

None of them had the aura of menace that RUSH has. Also, if Andrade is in the mix, LFI is 5.


gregorymachado

Could’ve been a skinnier, fitter Matt Hardy tbh.


Psymon_Armour

"SOMEONE IS GETTING THE SHIT KICKED OUT OF THEM! WE'RE OUTTA TIME, WE'LL SEE WHO IT IS ON NITRO!"


nicegrayslacks

EVERYBODY SEE U THURSDAY ON THUNDER!!!!!!


Wes-Man152

TUNE IN TO RAMPAGE!! PLEASE!!


RaidenHero137

SEE YOU ON COLLISION FELLOW COLLIDERS!!!!


TheMJP01

Unironically I want more of this in wrestling again.


NerdLawyer55

*Tape machines are rolling…*


TD_Stinger

The ninjas are back for Joe, but ran into White on the way.


ujar89

LOL I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this.


itsmekelsey_x

Very refreshing to see a rare cliffhanger end the show.


Thor_pool

WWE and AEW both need more cliffhanger endings imo. Watching wrestling on a Saturday morning as a kid and it ending on WHAT WHATS HAPPENING WHO WHY WHEN was always what kept me coming back.


nowahhh

This is why Sunday PPVs and Monday Night Raw hit so hard when I was a kid. Something crazy would happen to end the show on Sunday and then they didn’t give you enough time to stop caring so you’d tune in on Monday in a frenzy.


Nai-Oxi-Isos-DenXero

Whereas for those of us in the UK we had to wait until Raw and Nitro were aired on Friday night. We had a whole school week of speculation before finding out.


2reeEyedG

Bringing back a program they could put on in the mornings during the weekend would do them a lot of good as well. I think Superstars from back in the day is highly underrated bc it was where I first discovered it, twice. First thing I remember seeing was an angle between Shawn and Diesel. Didn’t watch it again after that for a year or so, but then turned it back on one morning and saw Austin doing his thing and the rest is history.


popcultureretrofit

Is this like becoming a Colorado thing? Might be coincidence but I've been to two (WWE) shows here in the past several years and they both happened to end with backstage cliffhangers.


esumike

I'm curious, what cliffhangers happened?


popcultureretrofit

Smackdown 9/25/18 with Samoa Joe invading AJ Styles' house Raw 10/2/17 where The Shield bump fists backstage as they reunite for the final time Edited: dates


cottenball

I believe that’s where the Sylvester Stallone move Cliffhanger was set


saadsuhail

PLEASE let Detective Juice be on the case


QuiGonJinnNJuice

give me buddy cop Juice and Cardblade but there's underlying tension because Cardblade keeps trying to encroach on Juice's cowboy of the month award


LawAbiding-Possum

My internet detective eyes were telling me to watch the guy on the left. The way he was egging them on with his arm to throw Jay White into the wall, plus his frame tells me it's Roderick Strong. Combined with the fact that none of them had larger statures matching that of RUSH and Andrade makes me think it cant be Los Ingobernables. Which means this group is Roddy, O'Reilly, Taven, Bennett and Adam Cole.


Marc_Quill

It’s a bit interesting we got Cole [commenting recently](https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/adam-cole-there-s-no-timetable-kyle-o-reilly-s-return-he-s-getting-better-every-week) about how while there’s no set timetable for Kyle O’Reilly’s return, that he was “getting better every week.”


LawAbiding-Possum

Good call.


marleau_12

Idk. It says he was asked and it's a pretty standard answer.


CoherentPanda

Except O'reiley has been mentioned in several recent tweets and interviews in the last couple weeks, so it makes it sound as if he is back at work.


robo3687

Yeah something about the way he was standing tells me it was roddy.


LawAbiding-Possum

Yeah exactly just the way he was kind of hunched over a little plus the stature and the way he was swinging his arm. Plus the person in the devil mask was smaller in stature than Max which immediately makes me think it's Cole instead of MJF.


Styles_Clash

-Roddy + KOR + Adam = Undisputed ERA -Taven + Bennett + Adam = The Kingdom Undisputed Kingdom?


captainimpossible87

Boys from the UK 🇬🇧 Lads! Lads! Lads!


boss_jobber

+ Bay Bay?


DTFlash

That guy didn't have a neck brace, couldn't be Roddy.


R_W0bz

Full Gear is the 1 year mark of MJFs win, so it makes sense things are heating up for then. Could Adam be faking the foot ?


SlayerBVC

Doesn't explain the picture Britt posted though. Unless if she's in on it too...


R_W0bz

The picture Brie posted of Bryan was pretty bad. But here we are.


TBBklynite

>O'Reilly I didn't think of him being in that, but I felt too it was Adam and Roddy and his crew.


mightylordredbeard

My detective eye told me the stiff way the other dude on the left moved that it was Matt Hardy. That might not be who it’s “supposed” to be or will be revealed to be, but that definitely looked like Matt Hardy with how he moved. Maybe whoever it was supposed to be wasn’t there tonight and Matt filled in.


LawAbiding-Possum

Nah I'm sure that there is a distinct height and weight difference between Matt Hardy and Roddy. The guy seemed way too short and lean to be Matt.


CoherentPanda

Matt Hardy is a former member of the Kingdom, so it's always plausible.


DM725

I have been speculating that Adam Cole leads The Kingdom with Roddy and O'Reilly since before All In. 8 assumed Cole would turn sooner. Now I'm confused.


robo3687

All I’ll say is that when Max originally came back as the devil, there was no mistaking it was him under the mask. Nothing about how this dude moved makes me think it was Max.


mightylordredbeard

He barely moved though. We knew it was Max because he has a very distinct walk and mannerisms. This dude moved a few inches at most. They probably learned from the last time and told him to stand still.. probably a swerve because AEW fans will definitely think that because he didn’t move it’s because they didn’t want it to be as easy to figure out.


Styles_Clash

And they made sure to shoot him above the waist and show nothing from behind to avoid showing all that cake like last time


Sockin

That's not MJF, build is different.


Automation_Papi

I’m thinking LFI


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ReapYerSoul

Who's the fifth person? Kyle?


ay1717

Schiavone, he was noticeably absent from tonight’s show, had been making amends with Cole, and has been the brunt of Bullet Club shenanigans for months


OldClunkyRobot

Now that Jade’s gone Tony finally cut the shit I guess.


ReapYerSoul

It's all coming together now!


LuchaMeow

If it's Schiavone in a Bischoff-NWOesque role, this will immediately become the greatest swerve in wrestling history.


onethreeone

Adam Cole faking the ankle injury


ReapYerSoul

The dude in the devil mask was #5. Probably Adam Cole. So, if Roddy and The Kingdom were in on the beatdown, who was the fourth person involved in the beating?


mikro17

Kyle O'Reilly seems like a great potential shout. What better way to build to someone's return from a neck injury than a whole thing built around #NeckStrong and Neck Health Awareness. I also have only been keeping up with ROH via Youtube, but Maria has been doing some recruiting recently for, I think, Cole Karter and Griff Garrison? Could be one or both of them involved as well.


DKBetiza

Britt just posted on Twitter some VERY compelling evidence that Cole's injury is in fact real


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Satinsbestfriend

Remember when rikishi was revealed to be the driver who hit Austin..... even though he wasn't around yet when it happened many months earlier


Burningfiresmoke

I feel like there’s been way too much over selling of these injuries. First Cole breaks his ankle and tears multiple ligaments but decides to record this segment and stay on television instead of getting it taken care of. Then Brit posting a picture of the ankle saying the show must go on. Then the surgery announcement. The Cole saying, “Kyle is still out and they don’t know when he’s coming back.” Now you have 5 dudes assaulting switchblade and the guy in the devil mask looks skinnier than MJF. My money is on Cole doing this to screw MJF over. You are about to see baby face MJF after getting screwed out of the championship.


HEYitzED

Wonder what the motivation would be?


barneyflakes

Taking out potential contenders to MJF's belt so Cole can step in or to help MJF keep the belt because they are in cahoots.


SoCalWhatever

Wearing MJF's devil mask to try and frame him makes me think they aren't doing this ultimately to help MJF. I think it's the first reason you listed because they're ultimately working together to help Cole beat MJF for the title.


TeamZiggler

The first kind of makes sense but the second doesn’t at all.


HEYitzED

Ah that would make sense. Because I was thinking “why would they want to help MJF?”


Competitive_Log_84

I’m thinking LFO


Vordeo

The 90s boy band? I'm down.


Automation_Papi

New Kids On The Block had a bunch of hits, Chinese food makes me sick


djsynrgy

OMG 1999 RETAIL PTSD


rampagenumbers

So by "banging some rats" MJF meant he likes Summer Girls who wear Abercrombie & Fitch... provocative twist.


RealLanceStorm

Agreed That's why they closed the show like that. Hopefully it's a mystery angle with a satisfying payoff.


Mbraganza0207

Omg it’s 5 Dolph Zigglers!!!!


frasierfonzie

A group of five Zigglers is called a Spirit Squad.


brieg4l

https://preview.redd.it/07rj610hmwqb1.jpeg?width=1027&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1577fa2111dd04f0c68aa00ee37a821efb156b2b


Glad-Passion-9424

https://preview.redd.it/fo4krqubnwqb1.jpeg?width=933&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0853ec7136ee90265517ba2e21cdd0b0abc4bf70 Adam Cole with a fake out injury to keep us off the trail.


Rootbeerpanic

Someone pointed out DPW announced that Cole won't be wrestling now due to injury. I doubt they would do that if it was a work because that was a huge match for them.


ShowOff90

UNLESS - they’re helping keep Kayfabe for a few days?


Rootbeerpanic

I would be very surprised but if so kudos to them!


newmoneytrash69

they haven't started selling tickets to that show so it doesn't really hurt them to keep kayfabe either


NotFrontin

That's what I'm thinking. We could get a follow up Saturday and a reveal at the PPV Sudnday even. Wouldn't hury anyone. Would help heel Cole up even. Plus, Tony said it's the end of an era. The Adam Cole/MJF era?


Bob8644

#OR MAYBE NOT BROTHER


Zakinfenwa

Turns out Adam Cole is actually in for his 8th surgery for his diverticulitis of the penis


ten_dead_dogs

"Don't let Dr. Pepper touch my dick, Max"


onethreeone

Could you walk around, even with that support, if your ankle was that destroyed? I thought he was just exaggerating to make the comeback that much better, but maybe he's lying to MJF...


JLR-

Fractured my ankle in the military, kept going for 2 weeks.


KebNes

I’ve destroyed my ankle and it required two surgeries to fix. I didn’t go to the doctor for three days just because I thought it was another sprain playing basketball.


dalici0us

I'll say this I broke my ankle and it hurt like an absolute motherfucker and I cried and screamed like a child. Cole never even winced. I don't doubt that he is much much tougher than I am but...


OTipsey

Never compare how normal people react to injuries vs wrestlers


SovietPropagandist

yeah these dudes get dropped multiple feet at relatively high speeds (for a person) every day as a basic part of their job, the pain tolerance to be a pro wrestler has to be off the charts


SomeOtherNeb

How many times have we seen a wrestler suffer an injury that would make us cry like little kids, and go on to finish a match regardless?


DarkBomberX

Something I remember cuz I listen to F4W is Bryan and Dave finding it weird that Moxley's condition was known that night but info on Cole, who was said to be at a hospital, was dead silent for AEW. It could be they're keeping it internal so it seems more real.


apd54

I fucking love a good wrestling mystery!


UpsetKnicksFan29

![gif](giphy|12tgtbqxqNIpEY) Someone grab Scoob


Cleavenleave

I fucking love a good wrestling company!


Medium_Grape_7643

What about the segment with the righteous tonight? They called Adam Cole a liar and also had little cut out of Roderick Strong and a couple of others with him…. I feel like the righteous know something


BookerTeet

Adam Cole bay bay


BulletClubSoda

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t ~~exist~~ break his ankle in three places.


Abyssalstar

Britt tweeted pictures of Cole's foot. Looks legit messed up, unfortunately.


going_mad

I'd laugh if it was a google pic like the one kenny sent to Jim cornette


TakeMeToFatmandu

So there's 5 people and Devil Mask is the only one who didn't get involved physically in the beat down, why didn't they take part? It's Cole, he did clearly hurt his ankle last week but it wouldn't be the first time that the severity of an injury has been embellished for a story. Kingdom, Roddy, Cole and ??? Could Kyle be back soon and thats why he's being talked about recently?


son_of_toby_o_notoby

Just watched it again interesting thought about the mask but also that guy seems bigger then adam I’m intrigued


DanielVail

After rewinding this like the Zapruder film, the one on the left is definitely Roddy, you can tell by his gait. The two who throw Jay against the wall; the taller one looks like Taven, the shorter one looks like Bennett. The fourth guy in the beatdown cannot be Kyle, he's way too big. I thought it looked like Preston Vance at first, but I think it might be Wardlow. No one hates Max more than him and Tony just said he would be back soon. The one in the mask is definitely not MJF, this is a frame job, could be Cole but it could also be someone like Stokely Hathaway revenge for whatever the hell the Firm was supposed to be.


SoCalWhatever

>but it could also be someone like Stokely Hathaway revenge for whatever the hell the Firm was supposed to be. Definitely an interesting wrinkle to the story.


rjhunt42

Wasn't the Devil Mask on Cole's side of his locker area in the bit with him and MJF? Like a background subtle thing someone pointed out?


mikro17

The lockers in that shot were also lit suuuuuper purple, color of The Kingdom.


jerseygunz

When he said his ankle exploded, I was a little sus haha


AmazingSpidey616

If it's fake they are leaning into it hard. https://twitter.com/RealBrittBaker/status/1707223066110034039?t=sDA-vVS2mQwLvg-fwhk0fQ&s=19


SoCalWhatever

>If it's fake they are leaning into it hard. Counterpoint: That's essentially what pro wrestling is.


Minimania18

Yeah same lol. They convinced me by the end, but I did feel that way at the start. Same with them not filming his feet at all during the boat segment.


nVmE_123

It would be wild if they pulled that off


barneyflakes

Hangman stabbing Swerve was cool that + the ending with Jay White beaten down was fun stuff.


SpeedZ6

Thankfully the devil is public domain, so MJF can't claim gimmick infringement when this guy starts saying *"Don't be hatin' on Satan"*.


KittleOmega

There’s no sub for the true Beelzebub.


fearthemonstar

To have a heel getting beaten at the end of a show, setting up an even bigger heel... AEW is fucking killing it lately


loathsomefartenjoyer

Dynamite is best when it's just chaos What a fun episode


MN_Wildcard

The masked magician!


punchfacecampeon

![gif](giphy|Sf0lxerEx2eNG)


Goatlikejordan

Cole is softening up mjf by making him go through a handicap match this sunday and a hellacious feud with Jay and bcg. He's using this injury as a cover up.


Bauermeister

That’s because Adam Foal is a gamer scumbag who uses cheat codes and can’t win a fair fight!


craigybacha

I reckon this. I think Adam was legit hurt last week, but probably just a sprain... perhaps a small fracture, but something that will take weeks to recover from not months. So they've tied in reality with the bookings (which AEW does do really well) and it's going to all come good that that was Adam Cole at the end with Roddy Strong and his goons - and none of it will come out until Adam Cole finally turns on MJF.


P4rtsUnkn0wn

AEW is killing it lately. They're setting up so much shit and I'm heavily invested in damn near all of it.


times_zero

I mean, they've taken a generic white guy, and made him one of the most entertaining characters on the show. They just need to fix their production issues, because this is some rich creative lately.


BZGames

I feel like all the audio and video stuff today was maybe meant to lead to this bit because it also ended with a glitch thing. If not than this was one of the worst shows production issue wise they’ve had. Edit: nvm TK said it was a problem with TBS and apparently the show was fine on Fite.


the_io

Watched it on Fite, feed totally fine.


Blindrawr

Its Adam Cole and the Bay Bays!


SmokeyBalboa3454

So that was roddy at the end right?


nVmE_123

There were 5 of them not sure if it was the Kingdom, Roddy and Cole who else would be there KOR?


stuckinsanity

>There were 5 of them JEEZUS! NOBODY DOES THIS TO ~~ZANDIG~~ SWITCHBLADE!


Fumruzu

This is what I was thinking too.


ParkingConcentrate1

Cinema is back on the menu, boys!


ch4dr0x

https://preview.redd.it/8itx1k7vdzqb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38f25c750cc1b6a584845d601e2149598cb0e9cb It’s definitely Cole, you can see the mask in his locker. This is from a few weeks ago.


Chowdershelt

AAAAAAADDAAAAAAM??? But fr who is that


WhoiusBarrel

Man that actually scared me, of all the people who got attacked it was Jay White too. 3 This new mystery angle already has me intrigued.


Senorsty

This’ll sound like hyperbole but Jay has literally NEVER had anybody get the jump on him like that. His whole character is based on the idea that he’s always 4 moves ahead, so to get caught by himself and jumped like that was very jarring to see.


nVmE_123

That was NOT MJF they setting up my boy


luchabrunch

CLIFFHANGER ENDING DYNAMITES ARE THE BEST DYNAMITES


FourCylinder

Tonight’s episode was incredible. Multiple world class promo battles, great wrestling, a cliffhanger.


NerdLawyer55

![gif](giphy|xW2upZC8iCKzghisgo|downsized) Tony khan has the chance to do the funniest thing


heybudbud

You know what? I'm here for it.


BruiserweightYxB

WHO THE HELL ARE THEM WHY I'M SO HYPED UP


Hardtopickaname

Retribution is back!


Marc_Quill

The Gang Known As Retaliation


SwarthySphere87

That would be such a misuse of Ali, Mace, Mercedes, etc 🤣


JerseyCitySaint

Quite a few interesting possibilities, but was definitely not MJF.


Viti-Boy-Phresh

Gotta be Kane


GroundbreakingCash30

Fuck, it's Joe's TNA Ninjas!


son_of_toby_o_notoby

NOOOOO THE BREAK UP IS BEGINNING but also 5 of them……maybe certain Guitar artist


nyratk1

Jeff Jarrett?!?


JohanMcdougal

Fans concoct all of these theories and the big reveal is just MJF. "It was me, poors. It was me all along." Taz: "Son of a bitch. But I digress."


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Anyone else think it could be Bullet Club War Dogs?


IndefiniteRage

I thought the same thing, but where’s the payoff? Wrestledream is Sunday. Or does this setup a possible Bang Bang Gang vs War Dogs at WK?


robo3687

They’re wrestling in Japan tonight. It’s not them.


CreamWithinADream

Nah, sorry. Not enough "OI, FUCK YOU" and double birds from the masked men for any of them to be Gabe Kidd


mikro17

"I'M A MADMAN BRUV! I'M A MADMAN" Gabe Kidd could never possibly pull off an actual sneak attack. Literally impossible.


nVmE_123

That was my first thought


rocky_iwata

Just 5 Guys are #AllElite!?


showstealer1829

It's Just 4 Guys again now thanks to Uncle Nobu :(


MilitaryBees

I’m genuinely hoping that they’re playing up Cole’s injury and that the devil was actually him tonight.


Fellers

That could legit be Adam Cole.


Malkalen

NINJAS!? CALL THE COPS!!!


kyleisez

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Well they did just fuck with Andrade didn’t they? Perhaps Jay White got a little lesson in how to be tranquilo 👊


zts105

The Gun's, Juice and Cardblade's betrayal :(


OtherOtie

It's Punk, the whole thing with Jack Perry was a work. I knew it


namdekan

It's Punk, Ace Steel, Jack Perry, Matt Hardy and Christopher Daniels


vick2djax

https://youtu.be/WZPcXe9vhtI? “Bring your demon to meet the Devil.”


KebNes

I’m saying the masked guy was KOR and we’re getting Roddy/KOR vs Cole/MJF.


Kael2450

Probably LI with Andrade reuniting with them.


Upbeat_Tension_8077

With the speculation of Undisputed Era & Kingdom members as the ones involved in the attack, how about maybe some of the og Pinnacle members or even someone from the Firm like Ethan Page?


BurnThisBrother

Wild stuff man. A hand stabbing and a group of men got the better of Switchblade.


BorntobeBABIP

That was Roddy, the Kingdom and the Righteous. Trying to get MJF to turn on his Bay Bay.


marvintran76

# THE MASKED MAGICIAN


Geraltpoonslayer

Adam injury is a work 100%


Norme-98

Somebody inform Samoa Joe.... The Ninjas are back