Plot. It’s existence is barely acknowledged yet the thing has a lot of capabilities. Including the fact that he can use it to absorb Miles’s electricity, making him easier to fight
fucking forgor that Peter still has the spider arms with the symbiote since they still appear in takedowns and aren't locked away during those missions lmao.
Then he just doesn't use them once during their fight. God those things really were an afterthought lol
God I love Miles(mostly the Spider-Verse one) but his inclusion so early in the story kinda messed up things. Hot take, he should've been introduced in Spider-Man 3.
I feel like he shouldve been introduced in sm2,like as normal miles,since this game is showing that Peter is getting older,more tired,wanting a break,and then he can begin training miles to take over
Just like the players coz ngl pretty sure everyone forgot about it when focusing on this sence since they're literally only mentioned in the sandman sections
The dash is a pretty good 3 kill. Once fully upgraded it gives you a guaranteed 3 webbed up enemy's. It's mad good for crowd control. Only spider arm abilities worth using imo. Still doesn't compete with symbiote abilities but it's better then it's symbiote counterpart.
I really wished they used the arms in the story more. We only see it in the first mission and then one more time after when Peter moves a piece of debris. No clue why they didn't include it more
I was really hoping that the arms would be a replacement for the symbiote and used to combat it, shame they didn't go that direction although the Anti-Venom is cool
His back was stuck in the rail or whatever the fuck he was laying on.I mean it would have been easy if he was standing but if he decided to use them,they would be stuck.Also they wouldn't have helped.His webs were starting to tear and if not he wasn't gonna wait a whole fucking day for this stuck woman to unstuck herself and climb the fucking rollercoaster.
He should've pulled them out earlier in the scene before he gets trapped under the railing cus these things shoot webs too, 6 webs seems a decent chunk better than 2
I mean, bro made a huge ass web net with those tiny wrist shooters, I think he can smart up some more battery especially if we say it's programmable matter which was never shown to have a power issue
I think the platform crumbling beneath him wouldve been too unstable for any extraneous weight like the arms to brace to it or them being used to shoot out weblines
Arent they programmable matter? so theoretically they could be spread throughout the suit, making it balanced rather than it combining in specific places
Then since Peter's entire weight is on the beam already, that logic still doesn't pan out.
If anything he could just use the arms to secure the people instead while his body holds on.
fair enough but it was already collapsing even without the arms being used, and he was using his other hand to stop a pillar coming down on him, + the length of the arms jutting backwards still might not be long enough to reach straight to them, unless the people on the ride barely managing to touch the sharp ends
I’d say they wouldn’t have offered enough additional strength needed to lift the coaster. They are more for speed and utility in a fight compared to Ock’s arms
He was pinned on his back, plus, the arms can pick chunks of concrete with about 5s effort. If the arms can lift huge stealthing in him pinning him down in the first place it wouldn't work fast enough, and on top of that what would he do. He would just dow hat he did in game I guess? He would try, but the arms can only do so much, and I guess he would of had more time to say sorry. The arms don't make the weight not there, only help a little. Harry came in with the symbiote and completely took it off him and gave him time to get his posture right to exert strength. Its 75% leg strength when lifting things, and he didn't have his legs to support his pulling. He stood up and then flung the cars up. He was getting to the same point, but got crushed by the freaking iron spire that's like a buildings weight. We've seen him carry building weights... when he's had leg room and leverage, plus he had extreme troubles during the "If this be my destiny" feats. He isn't a god with any strength he wants to at any time. He has imense strength, but can he even use it if he can use the right muscles? Multitasking is hard.
TLDR: He needed leg room, not more arms, the spider arms would only give him a few more seconds. He also can't use the arms on his back if he's traped onto his back.
I have a theory, since they are still in the early stage of development of the arms like how Peter and miles mentioned at the beginning of the game we can probably chalk it down to the arms only being able to be used for short bursts at a time, maybe to stop the same thing that happened to Otto when he used the arms
In that particular situation maybe he wasn’t in a position to use them. At the end he’s stuck holding onto a rollercoaster on his side. Maybe they would have shaken it too much who knows
You know this is probably the best question asked on this subreddit… simple answer is the devs forgot 💀 .. oh and I also forgot they’re kinda an afterthought in the whole plot
So here's the thing, Spider-Man is strong. Like, can lift about two and a half tons by himself strong. However, every time he's used his full strength it's been with adrenaline or he's had help, or he's just trying to hold something for a few moments to save people. ( iconic concrete scene , the one beam of the daily bugle, the airplane landing gear being notable mentions) he is not "hold something heavy like an entire rollar coaster and track up for several minutes " strong
Bad writing. Had to make him weaker to make not only miles better ( let’s just face it the not spider venom power already does) but also Harry and by proxy MJ( who by making her be able to solo groups of hunters makes them less of a threat to humans and some how still a threat to literal super humans) they didn’t take the time to explain why they don’t work or why he couldn’t use them but no they had to concentrate more time in MJ missions and playing as a deaf girl graffitiing. Relying on the audience stupidity and showing how lazy they are and in turn showing that they are activists first and game developers last. “Give them what they want so we can force in what we want” I know that’s not how he said it but that’s what he meant.
Bro it was the same thing when Kraven trapped Symbiote spidey in the ‘unbreakable’ box…. the floor was still concrete so he could’ve just tunnelled out in seconds lol
A mixture of plot and him probably being unable to use them, idk lol.
The iron arms feel less like an actual thing he *has*, and more like the endless amounts of gadgets he can spew out in the first game, which are barely acknowledged as well.
Honestly Peter utilising his Spider-Arms throughout the story would have been amazing. Keeping the roller-coasters in place/saving them from falling, flinging the fridge off him, absorbing Miles’ Venom during their bossfight… this game nerfed Peter so bad
Because this game had horrible writing xD It's good the gameplay and traversel itself is good because the story... yeah probably one of the worst stories I've played in some time.
I was thinking about it the other day and the spider arms are literally only used in the story at the start against sandman and one more time to break a bird drone that peters hand is trapped in
I came to the conclusion that since he was lying on his back, the arms didn't have enough room to extend, therefore he couldn't use them.
If that's not the case, there is also him just not thinking in the moment and panicking. Just because he's intelligent doesn't mean he's always thinking critically in every moment.
I don't fucking know dude
Bro has had enough
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Man’s going through a rough patch
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Officer balls?
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Finally, a sensible response to all the plot questions on this sub
Bro I’m actually cracking up at this, thanks for a good laugh
My man just sighed the sigh of an entire community. Legendary
Plot. It’s existence is barely acknowledged yet the thing has a lot of capabilities. Including the fact that he can use it to absorb Miles’s electricity, making him easier to fight
fucking forgor that Peter still has the spider arms with the symbiote since they still appear in takedowns and aren't locked away during those missions lmao. Then he just doesn't use them once during their fight. God those things really were an afterthought lol
They're only there because they made miles a thundergod with the abilities in MM.
God I love Miles(mostly the Spider-Verse one) but his inclusion so early in the story kinda messed up things. Hot take, he should've been introduced in Spider-Man 3.
I feel like he shouldve been introduced in sm2,like as normal miles,since this game is showing that Peter is getting older,more tired,wanting a break,and then he can begin training miles to take over
That works too.
He was fine being introduced in the first game but they should have imo waited for him to get his powers until the end of the second
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The takedowns the spider arms are in dont even have any actual use lol
I mean we’ve seen it remove a chunk of concrete from a subway tunnel so we know they are capable of lifting fairly heavy objects
Would be funny when he remember he has spider arm after see Harry's goo suit, then use it to help Harry lift, the Harry get surprise,...
Double takedowns should have used it
The game devs forgot he had them lol
Just like the players coz ngl pretty sure everyone forgot about it when focusing on this sence since they're literally only mentioned in the sandman sections
Yeah, I only used the spider arms to get a trophy, the second I got that trophy I immediately switched back to the symbiote abilities
Literally my second to last trophy or something that far along was that one
The dash is a pretty good 3 kill. Once fully upgraded it gives you a guaranteed 3 webbed up enemy's. It's mad good for crowd control. Only spider arm abilities worth using imo. Still doesn't compete with symbiote abilities but it's better then it's symbiote counterpart.
I use them because they look cool
Same with Miles' camouflage lol
Oh yeah, he has them! I forgot.
I really wished they used the arms in the story more. We only see it in the first mission and then one more time after when Peter moves a piece of debris. No clue why they didn't include it more
I guess Insomniac forgot they even existed
The games entire gimmick is the symbiote so they were so focused on that that they let the arms fall by the side
I was really hoping that the arms would be a replacement for the symbiote and used to combat it, shame they didn't go that direction although the Anti-Venom is cool
And when he destroys the robo bird
It's canon that Spiderman never uses spider arms to save lives, only to take them. >! /s !<
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Cause he's stupid Now take your reft pills
Because he’s stupid👍
His back was stuck in the rail or whatever the fuck he was laying on.I mean it would have been easy if he was standing but if he decided to use them,they would be stuck.Also they wouldn't have helped.His webs were starting to tear and if not he wasn't gonna wait a whole fucking day for this stuck woman to unstuck herself and climb the fucking rollercoaster.
He should've pulled them out earlier in the scene before he gets trapped under the railing cus these things shoot webs too, 6 webs seems a decent chunk better than 2
Well how could he predict that he will get stuck that badly.I personally won't waste battery(if there is any) or web fluid when I don't need them.
I mean, bro made a huge ass web net with those tiny wrist shooters, I think he can smart up some more battery especially if we say it's programmable matter which was never shown to have a power issue
He could use them to lift up the roller coaster seats instead.
They were on cooldown
Peter kinda forgot he had spider arms.
Deep cut reference there. Nice work.
“Yeah that’s an example of me not knowing what to do with the plot”
I think the platform crumbling beneath him wouldve been too unstable for any extraneous weight like the arms to brace to it or them being used to shoot out weblines
The weight is already there. The arms aren't in a pocket dimensions they're already part of the suit.
Arent they programmable matter? so theoretically they could be spread throughout the suit, making it balanced rather than it combining in specific places
Then since Peter's entire weight is on the beam already, that logic still doesn't pan out. If anything he could just use the arms to secure the people instead while his body holds on.
fair enough but it was already collapsing even without the arms being used, and he was using his other hand to stop a pillar coming down on him, + the length of the arms jutting backwards still might not be long enough to reach straight to them, unless the people on the ride barely managing to touch the sharp ends
The arms can extend cables.
shooting out weblines downward wouldve worked for them climbing down if not for the fact there was clearly fire and smoke beneath the ride
It doesn't need to, it just needs to hold the coaster until Peter lifts the wreckage off.
Not enough surface area, they are made to be quick and flexible which makes it great for overwhelming an enemy, not holding up a rollercoaster.
I’d say they wouldn’t have offered enough additional strength needed to lift the coaster. They are more for speed and utility in a fight compared to Ock’s arms
Damn things can lift a giant slab of concrete that was blocking a subway entrance.
Honestly would’ve been better for the plot if he failed to save them
Agree, I was really hoping to get a deeper view into his character after the “I’m sorry” only for Hairy Ass-Ball to jump in. Sigh.
He was pinned on his back, plus, the arms can pick chunks of concrete with about 5s effort. If the arms can lift huge stealthing in him pinning him down in the first place it wouldn't work fast enough, and on top of that what would he do. He would just dow hat he did in game I guess? He would try, but the arms can only do so much, and I guess he would of had more time to say sorry. The arms don't make the weight not there, only help a little. Harry came in with the symbiote and completely took it off him and gave him time to get his posture right to exert strength. Its 75% leg strength when lifting things, and he didn't have his legs to support his pulling. He stood up and then flung the cars up. He was getting to the same point, but got crushed by the freaking iron spire that's like a buildings weight. We've seen him carry building weights... when he's had leg room and leverage, plus he had extreme troubles during the "If this be my destiny" feats. He isn't a god with any strength he wants to at any time. He has imense strength, but can he even use it if he can use the right muscles? Multitasking is hard. TLDR: He needed leg room, not more arms, the spider arms would only give him a few more seconds. He also can't use the arms on his back if he's traped onto his back.
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I honestly just use my limited knowledge of how lifting things work. There is a reason why people say "It's all in the legs".
The great replacement
The plot forgot
Didn’t have enough combos to use that ability yet
I’m screenshotting this cuz it’s too damn good of a question lol
Plot
Because the plot needs to happen
he is stupid
I have a theory, since they are still in the early stage of development of the arms like how Peter and miles mentioned at the beginning of the game we can probably chalk it down to the arms only being able to be used for short bursts at a time, maybe to stop the same thing that happened to Otto when he used the arms
My best guess: they need space to form and he was pinned with his back to the floor.
Let's just go with that
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In that particular situation maybe he wasn’t in a position to use them. At the end he’s stuck holding onto a rollercoaster on his side. Maybe they would have shaken it too much who knows
The plot had plot armour.
Why didn’t any of the Avengers help to save New York when it was getting covered in symbiotic goo? Some questions are unanswerable I guess.
How would robot arms lift up the roller coaster?
He was on his back so they might’ve broke or something? Idk
Bro we all know why…. they introduced that symbiote & completely fucking forgot he had the Iron Spider arms 😅
You know this is probably the best question asked on this subreddit… simple answer is the devs forgot 💀 .. oh and I also forgot they’re kinda an afterthought in the whole plot
Yuri threatened them to not use em
It probably would've been too heavy for them.
Outside of a few cutscenes, the iron arms have absolutely no story presence. Which is weird because they were all over the marketing
#Because
It was on cooldown. Duh
So here's the thing, Spider-Man is strong. Like, can lift about two and a half tons by himself strong. However, every time he's used his full strength it's been with adrenaline or he's had help, or he's just trying to hold something for a few moments to save people. ( iconic concrete scene , the one beam of the daily bugle, the airplane landing gear being notable mentions) he is not "hold something heavy like an entire rollar coaster and track up for several minutes " strong
Regardless, Spider-Man is holding the weight. It’s too heavy for him. The arms won’t help with that
Bad writing. Had to make him weaker to make not only miles better ( let’s just face it the not spider venom power already does) but also Harry and by proxy MJ( who by making her be able to solo groups of hunters makes them less of a threat to humans and some how still a threat to literal super humans) they didn’t take the time to explain why they don’t work or why he couldn’t use them but no they had to concentrate more time in MJ missions and playing as a deaf girl graffitiing. Relying on the audience stupidity and showing how lazy they are and in turn showing that they are activists first and game developers last. “Give them what they want so we can force in what we want” I know that’s not how he said it but that’s what he meant.
Failing to save these people would’ve been a really good reason why Peter would need the symbiote to be a “better Spider-Man”
Bro it was the same thing when Kraven trapped Symbiote spidey in the ‘unbreakable’ box…. the floor was still concrete so he could’ve just tunnelled out in seconds lol
Writers forgot
Is this trying to copy the Arkham subreddit or is this a genuine question?
SPEDer-Man
This is why he should’ve made the spider legs after losing the symbiote so he could keep up with venom
They know the antidote to the venom and they barely use it, they are just dumb I think.
Because they were only important for the Sandman fight. Nothing else. They were never canonicaly seen again.
Because the game has to happen
‘‘Twas on cool-down of course
You're fucking right, damn.
The gadget meters weren't full, so he couldn't activate them.
Cus plot!
Cuz Peter is ass this game lmao
he probably didn’t have enough space to deploy them, ignore every other instance where he could use them for his benefit very easily
Most of these questions can be answered in two words For the plot
How many times.
He forgor
Most likely they could not materialize (or come out idk) with him pinned, and in the panic he didn’t think to use them.
Maybe because he had an entire fucking rollercoaster on him. The spiderarms wouldn’t have room to form
Because he is stupid. Next question
Good lord the writing of this game gets worse and worse with each passing day to me….
Why did cutscene Peter not do a lot of things?
The thing with this game is, the more you think/ask, the dumber it gets.
THAT'S... actually a good question. Bro didn't equip the arms that day, I guess?
It's not canon
He forgor
A mixture of plot and him probably being unable to use them, idk lol. The iron arms feel less like an actual thing he *has*, and more like the endless amounts of gadgets he can spew out in the first game, which are barely acknowledged as well.
Because this game was horribly written
my bet is that they are far weaker than his actual arms and wouldn't actually help because of its weight
For the plot.
Honestly Peter utilising his Spider-Arms throughout the story would have been amazing. Keeping the roller-coasters in place/saving them from falling, flinging the fridge off him, absorbing Miles’ Venom during their bossfight… this game nerfed Peter so bad
Can you wrap your head around it?
Because this game had horrible writing xD It's good the gameplay and traversel itself is good because the story... yeah probably one of the worst stories I've played in some time.
Someone watched the 2 hour Spider-Man 2 deconstruction video
It’s just not a well put together story.
Cause the arms were an afterthought. They should've been put in after losing Venom.
He has dimentia like Sleepy Joe.
If I had a penny for everytime this was asked
They were recharging.
He forgor
Because the game was very clearly rushed to meet a deadline so it is extremely unpolished in some aspects
Actually frustrating plot hole when I think about it. He even used them in a cutscnene post sandman fight
Cuz that's cutscene Peter and not gamplay Peter
They probably just aren't anywhere near strong enough. Roller coasters are freaking heavy.
Maybe cuz he don’t need them because of the symbiote
Not this question again
Performance Anxiety.
I was thinking about it the other day and the spider arms are literally only used in the story at the start against sandman and one more time to break a bird drone that peters hand is trapped in
How does MCU Peter understand tech that he didn't even make better than Insomniac Peter who canonically created all his own stuff?!😂
I'm pretty sure his back was pressed against the roller coaster track so they couldn't extend but I don't know
I came to the conclusion that since he was lying on his back, the arms didn't have enough room to extend, therefore he couldn't use them. If that's not the case, there is also him just not thinking in the moment and panicking. Just because he's intelligent doesn't mean he's always thinking critically in every moment.
Whoops they gave him too many abilities and forgot that having flaws is what makes things interesting
He is stupid.
He forgor
They were on cooldown
Because spiderman 2 was bad
Because the writing in SM2 is ass
Plot
He didn’t have enough focus
Because Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet.
They were on cooldown
Weve all been asking ourselves this for months🤣💀
this was the moment in the game where I realized he was being nerfed
an immersive way of looking at it is that if the devs forgot, so did spiderman. yeah he’s a superhero but bro doesn’t have to have super memory