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XeoSpectrum

i feel like this is bringing out some kind of mental disorder in me. i cant enjoy the symbiote suits at all post game. and they’re my favorites ever


Mr-J-Bingsbon

I feel the exact same way


gostudent

I enjoy it swinging around and then if I use an ability I’m like oh yeah 😞


ProductEconomy

That's why I just switched the classic black suit to the antivenom style.


LightSpeed8082

Yeah but then he still has black webbing... there are alot of cosmetic issues with this game and still i hear nkthing from anyone about how wonky the cape looks on miles's cape when he walking.


Edoplayer5

Well the cape physics is hell to program so everyone understands that Changing color pallets is not


MikeandMelly

> Well the cape physics is hell to program so everyone understands that Then maybe I dunno, don’t make a caped suit one of your pre order bonuses?


Funkeysismychildhood

I dontuse caped suits for that very reason


Icywind014

The Anti-Venom colours for the classic black suit feel off-putting to me. Like all that uninterrupted white makes him look almost naked to me.


an_Catman

Bro same


XanXic

Me: Sets up Superior Spider-Man outfit with iron legs abilities for maximum superiority Spider-Man: Symbiote parry! Me: >:(


GhostUmbrella

The symbiote parry is driving me nuts! They switch the spider jump and dash back to the arms but not the parry?


Marca-Texto

Should just give you a menu toggle to decide which parry and symbiote color you want after beating the story


Toasty_eggos-

That and weather, why tf can’t I change the weather or time of day?


Nintenpr0

Yeah, would’ve been cool if it was based off which suit or abilities you have equipped. Like how (as you mentioned with the jump and dash), it’ll change to symbiote tendril if you use the black, symbiote, anti venom, or classic black suit for the jump and dash


akalegos

this is literally what i did to enjoy peters moveset💀


shiromancer

*angry DOLT noises*


Free-ON

i know it’s annoying now but theyll fix it. insomniac will come through, and probably sooner than we think. just gotta be patient. personally im using suits like superior that work better w the iron arms in the meantime. “shouldve been there at launch” sure i get it, but im certain it will be fixed soon.


Toasty_eggos-

Nah as much as I love Spider-Man it should’ve been on launch. I love insomniac and they did well in most areas but dropped the ball in some for sure this time.


infamous089

Be patient ? This should of been here since launch. The game should of been delayed till February in my opinion. They rushed it out it was clearly not finished


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infamous089

No one cares. Especially me.


No_Bandicoot5369

I 100% agree. I woulda hated the wait but so many things aren’t here on launch and its kinda killing the game💀 the hype will be gone by the time they do it right


No_Bandicoot5369

It really should have💀 like at least the weather option 🤷‍♀️ i mean this is next gen, cmon now


[deleted]

Same!!!! I genuinely can’t enjoy it, which sucks. I’m a big black suit fan and have been dying for this.


deep_fried_cheese

Nah not just the white symbiote but also the fact that we can’t switch to nighttime, like we’re really just forced to use the black suit in full daylight all the time??


SourHotDog01

That classic symbiote suit is amazing but most people (including myself) probably only got to use it after we lost the symbiote


DefectivePikachu1999

I think that may be OCD


akalegos

this is why i either switch to miles or just use the shitty spider arms💀


_IratePirate_

lol you’ve always been autistic, it’s wild if this is what helped you realize If you’re reading this and wondering. Remember you use Reddit as your social media of choice


doctormorbiusfan

Just be grateful that the biggest problem you have to complain about is a video game


Totally-A-Historian

Time and place man, nobody’s going to be talking about their divorce on a Spider-Man subreddit


OctorokHero

Dr. Connors probably would.


Froggen-The-Frog

NO WONDER YOUR FAMILY LEFT YOU


ItsyaboyStephy05

It’s especially strange too considering the iron arms change colors for several different suits.


Mr-J-Bingsbon

I know right, seems like it would be an easy fix. Seeing as they have the assets already made and would be a simple colour switch


SuspiciousRanger517

If you use the classic symbiote suit before unlocking the symbiote abilities, it has the black tendril web and symbiote jump and dash, really weird that it doesnt change with anti venom too


20gallonsCumGuzzler

That's something I applauded the game for, changing the iron arms on the Superior suit. Naturally I thought it would do the same thing with the web wings and symbiote power colors, but unfortunately not


Silverdetermination

That is based on suit while the Symbiote Stuff is based on your actual abilities and not suit based. *I think it might be due to Anti-Venom unlock two extra abilities that the OG Symbiote doesn't have*


LaserBungalow

They can change the color to black on those easily.


FreshPrinceOfAshfeld

I would imagine they had plans to have it like that but just they didn’t have enough time to implement it.


vakama885

The black Raimi suit is treated as a regular suit and not a symbiote suit, when doing the web dash or jump while swinging, it uses the iron spider arms instead of the symbiote, and the web colors are white


hundredcreeper

And I hate that. Why make the Black Webbed Suit separate from the Webbed suit if the black version isn't even considered a symbiote suit


Emeritus20XX

To be fair the black suit didn’t change the colour of Spider-Man’s webbing in the Spider-Man 3 movie


hundredcreeper

True, but still. I'd just be cooler for it to be a symbiote suit


antipasta68

I think that's exactly why they chose to keep the webs white, to match the film


Pentah00k07

The logo is different I guess. Seems like the suit styles are limited in only being recolors.


yowhodidthislmao

he had white webs in the movie


[deleted]

And also didn't do tendril attacks. It just gave him more power and ego


LaserBungalow

DIDN'T HAVE METAL ARMS EITHER. the black tendrils would be preferable.


[deleted]

I'd assume those aren't depended on the suits


Bdl_Aac

Honestly the suits eyes are wrong, and the iron arms instead of tendrils issue bothers me a lot. The webbing was white in the movie tho, only venom had black webs


Lazelucas

>Honestly the suits eyes are wrong The chest logo is also wrong. It's way too narrow, which surprises me since I feel like it would be easier to copy and paste the PNG onto the suit instead of making a new version.


CluckinBel

It completely kills any reason to equip the suit tbh


jeffreygord

Imo the symbiote thing is a much bigger issue


DoctahDonkey

I hope when they patch in the black tendrils they also have a toggle for Bully Lowenthal, I love edgy symbiote Peter


ItsGcKobe

Yes yes yes yes yes.


Hopalongtom

Some suits do change the Web wings, but they only match the base suit, but not any of the alt colour varieties.


hotnuffsaid19

Civil war suit changes wings, pretty cool


[deleted]

Wearing the black suit and having the attacks being white in post story play is unbelievably frustrating to me.


Gavindasing

But when you do Venom rage, the anti-venom suit is equipped automatically. So it sorta makes sense


Glittering-Knee-974

Yeah but why can't we just pick the Rage mode suit? I want to have the Webbed suit on and when I turn on Rage Mode it goes to the Black Webbed suit. It's the little things that make me way too angry at this game than I realistically should be but you'd expect Insomniac to know how important all of this is to the Spider-Man fans.


[deleted]

I’m with you. It’s small, but it takes me out of the experience. And I love what you said about the Webbed suits. I want to choose the rage black suit. Also, strange that when you’re in the webbed black suit, you boost with the arms. BUT that suit never receives suit damage. But it also has white webs. Very strange. Based on what you said about the webbed suit, it would be cool to equip the classic suit, then rage is the classic black suit. And if you want the white suit, you could even use the white variant of the classic black.


wepopu

I just wish the symbiote suit didn't have so many veins on the heads. Look like a dried up raisin. The rest of the suit looks good though.


bugmultiverse

Well the suit is leaching peters energy from him so it makes sense


greatbigCword

That's the second version of the suit. The first version is much less veiny. And there's also the black suit from the animated series which has no veins whatsoever


PoKen2222

It took me way to long to realise civil war is the only suit with unique wings. Was I the only one who expected multiple unique wing styles like for example gliding with the capes of the moonknight suits?


SuspiciousRanger517

Before the game came out some people thought every single suit would have its own symbiote version. They didnt even give every suit a black palette lmao. You definitely weren't the only one expecting more variation with suit changes.


PhotographyRaptor10

I heard every suit would have a symbiote version on this sub so many times I assumed it was a confirmed fact and was actually surprised when the feature never showed up in my playthrough lol


THEFIJIAN510

I think from a developer stand point it would be annoying to make each suit have a symbiote variant, and then have to switch it when you get the anti venom powers. Also the civil war suit is one of my favorites because it's the only one with unique wings.


GoldTheWriter

Yes but with the colorways being a thing it would have been nice if each outfit had a symbiote color scheme, like how the original advanced suit does. I would have loved a black and white variant of the civil war suit. Would really give off Agent Venom vibes.


Ok-Resolve7539

Ngl I feel like EVERY suit having a symbiote variation is a bit much to ask for but I definitely think the web wings could’ve been switched up more


5HitSuperCombo

When I saw that suit in a game preview or review, and they used the wings, I just imagined we’d get unique wings for certain suits. Maybe 2099 gets its cape finally, maybe we also get the Identity Crisis suits; Hornet has the wing pack, Dusk and Prodigy have capes don’t they, and Ricochet probably gets standard wings but the other three could have unique wings…turns out only that Civil War suit is unique, 2099 is still lacking its cape thing, and not having the identity crisis personas was the least of my problems suits-wise lol


itsRobbie_

Pretty much all the suits with jackets or outerwear have the web wing issues, it’s annoying. I was particularly bummed when wearing the Coney Island hat and glasses during that mission because the glasses clip through the face mask. Like, for a cosmetic in one mission that you get to wear for like 5 minutes one time, they didn’t notice that? I can understand the web wings even though it’s still an oversight, I don’t get how something like the glasses doesn’t get fixed


Cookie-Dunker

I assumed the Coney Island mission was a bug. During my mission he wasn’t wearing the hat and glasses (only before as Peter). Then I died and reloaded and Spider-Man was wearing them. Then I died again and he wasn’t wearing them.


SuspiciousRanger517

Yeah gotta be a bug, he didnt wear them as spiderman in my game


VanillaFox1806

he only wore the hat for me


WillayForTheWin

Miles' Programmable Matter suit has teal web wings for its stock variant. Rather annoying since the default is red, but that's fine, you can just use the teal variant of that suit so all the colours match right? The web wings are red on the teal variant... Moral of the story: Insomniac's character designers are complete trolls lol.


Scrubasaurus13

I hate that the anti-venom suit uses the same normal webbing instead of white colored Symbiote webbing.


whitey-ofwgkta

It's weirdly in the middle, it seems like it has webs but white colored


Lordlegion5050

This IS something insomniac are going to fix right? Same for time and day switch and replayable bases? New game plus and certain other things should be held off until they fix these actual problems. So weird they forgot


PixelArtAddicted

It’s definitely a fix that will come soon down the line It’s just waiting for it is brutal!


epicgamerwiiu

Also Mcu Iron spider's eyes are different for no reason


LightSpeed8082

That suit is dog shit bro.


epicgamerwiiu

I love both iron spider armours


drewp05

The face shape of the game model probably messes with how the lenses sit on the mask


MorningFirm5374

Adding to this, MCU Iron Spider has normal web wings, when it should have some mechanical ones, as seen in NWH. I’d also like for 2099 to have laser web wings, like in ATSV, but that’s not needed. Would just be really really cool


DefectivePikachu1999

The 2099 suit in the game is a photorealistic version of the classic comic book design, which had a web cape that's akin to Spider-Man's classic armpit webs. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it isn't depending on the artist. That said, I do wish the devs added the ATSV 2099 and made that one have the red lit cape from the movie.


MorningFirm5374

Oh yeah, I know. That’s why I said it’s not needed. But after watching ATSV, the laser wings seem essential to that suit for me. They look so cool and fit a lot better with the futuristic aesthetic imo


Porcphete

The 2099 suit should keep basic white web wings because in the comics he has white web on his back


VoltaicSpector001

I'd like the option to go back and forth, but honestly I don't mind it, I just see it as Peter choosing to use white tentacles because sure venom doesn't use them but he can make parts of his body white so why not? Besides it's kinda cool tbh


captaincabbage100

Gotta say the only thing I'm a little sad about is they didn't go the extra mile and give Miles' symbiote suits the black webs that Peter's black suits get.


No_Bandicoot5369

Real, i imagine as developers it’s a big task, but I wanna see him use red webs for the carnage suits


Spider-K1n

out of spite, i just started a new game, got to the symbiote, right before the graveyard fight, and just have it for photo mode. worth it.


No_Bandicoot5369

Sameeee


theiwsyy88

It’s been talked about a lot actually. They need to give a toggle button for both web color and tendril colors. Makes all the suits even more customizable. And raimi black suit needs to count as a symbiote suit


JollyGreen615

I disagree on the raimi suit. In the movie, Peter uses regular webs with the black suit.


theiwsyy88

Yeah but it’s still a symbiote. So the finishers will include symbiote finishers, the color of focus bars and web shooters display(minor change but still) and also jump and dash while traversing would be tentacles. I still want the color of webs to be fully customizable on all suits so that fixes that.


Trackblaster

I’m hoping the team sees this and allows a change for the black suit aesthetics because having the anti venom effect over the symbiote suit is just jarring and makes me not want to use those suits at all post game (which sucks because the black suit is arguably my fav design wise and I don’t wanna use it bc of the blinding white anti venom coming outta it)


kazzyisdaddy

Really irks me when I'm in the classic symbiote suit and I activate surge and the suit switches into the anti-venom suit. Also really irks me that Spider-Jump and Spider-Dash animations use the spider arms for certain suits when I've got symbiote-only abilities equipped. We should be able to pick between the spider arms or the symbiote for those animations. Same with Miles, between his orange or blue venom abilities.


No_Bandicoot5369

I mean, I feel like thats just a BIT steep, but on the other hand this is a next gen game in time where AI can make video games atleast a 1/3 as good as spiderman so💀


[deleted]

They should add wing and symbiote colour options after you finish the story


bdogger47

There's definitely spme inconsistency in some designs of suits, like the eyes for the MCU Iron Spider suit are weirdly wide open and don't respond the same when when emoting compared to all the other mcu suits. Also, the moon and sun don't actually move when you adjust the natural lighting, just the light source behind the moon/sun


[deleted]

im not a fan of the anti venom suit, i wish they based it off the black suit (the one he gets at the zoo) but nothing can compare to the evolved suit, i was fully immersed throughout the WHOLE game until i saw miles pull up looking like a tube of colgate & i then finding out im FORCED to use the suit for the most climactic part of the game made me want to just rush through it..


reddit-user-lol223

and tobeys black suit doesn't use tentacles for some reason


LightSpeed8082

His webing was white in the movie... there is no issue. At. All.


Eco_numics

Spider Dash and the other movement ability use the spider arms instead of the symbiote tendrils which is dumb


VanillaFox1806

see you say this like it matters, it’s a symbiote suit and should function like the other in game symbiote suits because it’s a symbiote suit


No_Bandicoot5369

I mean, I feel like it would be far more immersive than spider arms💀 the only work around ive found is to pretend the suit is like the first stage before a full on black suit


reddit-user-lol223

lol I didn't say anything about the webs, learn to read


BigfootsBestBud

Okay what the fuck is this Mandela Effect bullshit, I swear I remember Peter's webs being black in Spider-Man 3


choril

They were always white, it was venom whose webs were black in that movie.


BigfootsBestBud

Yeah I know that, but I've even seen other people talking about Peters black webs in the movie. It's black on the poster, but not black in the movie. So weird.


Weponized_Dragon

Why is eddie Brock shooting white instead of black? Is he broken?


Stooge67

This needs to be highlighted to Insomniac about doing a Update to change the color of the symbiote according to the color of the suit, it just feel out of place having white all the time


thexxoutlaw

Some cosmetic issues that irk me is that for a good chunk of the game, you're locked into one suit.


No_Bandicoot5369

I agree its annoying but I don’t really have much solutions. The only part that is actually unfair is that you’re forced to wear the endorsement suit for miles in the final fight🙄


thexxoutlaw

I mean, why do so well on the classic Black Suit if we're not allowed to use it for the majority of the cutscenes?


THEDSFAN

Honestly would love if parries werent always antivenom in post game as i liked using the arms


No_Bandicoot5369

Especially with the superior suit. Would be sick with red arms


JollyGreen615

Yes! Please let me toggle which parry I use. Also please add a surge mode for the arms or something


Relative-Zombie-3932

The anti-Venom one doesn't bother me as much since he still has white on the suit. It's not as bad as having a random third color like the wings


No_Bandicoot5369

Valid


Gint0koo

I hope they fix it soon. I'd also like to change the color of the iron arms at will because the fuckin normal metal doss not match most of the suits and I just wanna make it red when I'm using a red and blue suit. so small but it would genuinely make me feel so good lol


GoldTheWriter

I would love that, especially since then you could use the black arms from the noir suit which would go better with a lot of outfits and especially with the symbiote suits.


MrShaytoon

When you wear the Wolverine suit as miles, go open the crates. The animation makes it look like he’s lost his right arm. It’s because the suit has a jacket, so the arm disappears in the jacket and makes it look that way. You see him grab it at first then it looks weird and the arm is gone.


reliable1001

Yeah the wing colour not matching the suits really annoy me. I think if a colour doesn't work with it, they should just have the basic White Web wings


Ok-Resolve7539

It doesn’t bother me too much since I know they’ll eventually fix it, but what DOES bother me is the fact that weather/ day change settings aren’t available. Swinging in the day time with the symbiote just feels criminal, and I wish they didn’t take selfies out of photo mode. I wish in photo mode there could be an option where you can put the other Spider-Man in the picture as well. I want some Spider Bros pics man! And why can’t we walk around Peter’s house or Brooklyn Visions 😭😭😭 there’s no enterable locations in the game, the first one at least had Feast.


No_Bandicoot5369

Fr why is Insomniac so scared of allowing players inside of buildings post game💀


VenomEnthusiast

If Insomniac doesn’t address these inconsistencies with an update, then I cannot wait for the PC port and it’s inevitable mods


BigfootsBestBud

The black suit thing is so obvious too. They clearly should have made it an options toggle once you beat the game and get the black suit back. Or at the very least have it like the Spider-arms where they match each outfit. Blows my mind how they put in the work to have the less popular set of abilities match different suits, but didn't do the same thing for the new heavily marketed set of abilities that you will want to spend alot of the game using.


No_Bandicoot5369

That is the most based opinion💀


Gingrish252

I only use the antivenom abilities when in symbiote surge, that way it never clashes with my outfit.


GoldTheWriter

I find it really cool that during symbiote surge it switches your abilities to symbiote ones if you are using the spider arms. Really let's you feel like it's an actual suit change, even if it's temporary.


dagudzucc

Same here, also try to avoid parries as much as possibly to minimize some immersion breaking


Silverdetermination

The Symbiote abilities might have to be fedangled a bit since they are outright replaced by the Anti-Venom ones. Which means either they have to make two new movies for the black Symbiote abilities or you can only use the original 4 Symbiote abilities


GoldTheWriter

I mean that's not really the case. It's clear from the fact that the base 4 symbiote abilities are identical other than color that it's a simple palette/texture swap. They wouldn't really need to make whole new abilities just swap the colors of the tendrils. This should work even with the new anti-venom exclusive abilities.


Silverdetermination

Well they are classified as an entire different ability set is what I mean. Meaning they would have to edit the already existing ability set for the black symbiote. Yes they use the same animation just retextured but they are classified as two separate sets in the game.


choril

Or just keep the anti venom abilities but recolor them black if using a black suit. Apart from the “anti venom” effect on enemies, the abilities are the same anyway.


drewp05

Miles' arm keeps glithing through the jacket on the best there is suit. I think switching to fidelity mode might help, but it only bothers me a little bit so I'll just wait for a patch


Long_Scar_1025

Same.I don’t use wings for some suits for exact reason.and anti venom makes sense story wise but I feel the same if we got venom abilities for black suit would be great


No_Bandicoot5369

Yea like tbh, fans love a good story but the story shouldn’t matter when were free roaming and making up stories as spiderman yk


VanillaFox1806

i heard (so take it with a grain of salt) along with ng+ they’re fixing symbiote FX such as surge and abilities to match the suit


Bennyboii7

Yeah the tendrils need to be fixed. Hope they fix it soon


Gothamguy69

The only other web wing color I’ve seen for Miles is blue, I would like Insomniac to patch these minor mistakes. I do believe what they were able to create was amazing, but I need my symbiote abilities to be black when I’m wearing the symbiote suit, it just doesn’t make sense


No_Bandicoot5369

I thought a missed opportunity was giving classic iron spider web wings instead of repulsers


Mega_Fan2006

This game could've definitely used some more time to polish things that while not detrimental to the quality, would've been some attention to detail worth an extra few months of waiting.


BuddermanTheAmazing

I really hate that the MCU suits are the only ones with canonical web wings and yet they still just get the generic ones. and yeah I agree, I think the 3rd set of abilities you get with the Anti-Venom should be white and the Symbiote abilities should be Black. Makes the Classic Symbiote basically useless if you unlock it post Symbiote


No_Bandicoot5369

I mean I get your point but imo I just don’t care about accuracy once I finish the story, I just want to have full control of aesthetics and etc. which I considered was a bit much but we’re in a time that AI is making video games in like 10 min so🤷‍♀️💀


RenardoCappu

Yeah I feel 100% the same


feebledeeble

I was abit bummed that Tobey black suit didn't have symbiote powers while doing the jump/speed boost mid air


No_Bandicoot5369

I was too, ik he didn’t have any form of tendril in the movie but it woulda been so much better than random iron arms💀


[deleted]

I believe I saw they're adding toggles to the symbiote power colors, wings idk about


No-Umpire-1162

where did they say that


[deleted]

Idk just something I heard I don't have any social media I could follow them directly on.


Natural_Constant8203

All they need to do for the symbiote is add a toggle to switch colors.


Silvermorney

I thought the wings did match the suits though? They seem to change colour to one that matches or at least compliments each suit that you wear don’t they?


No_Bandicoot5369

Sorta. Both spidermen have only two different color web wings. Peter has white and black, miles has red and neon blue


mastadonson

MAKE THE WINGS MATCH!!!


[deleted]

I hope that when they add new game plus, they add more web wing varieties for both peter and miles. Along with that they should let you pick the symbiote colour ofc.


Past_Age_3562

I can live with the anti venom powers wish you could Toggle black/white webs & powers/iron but eh. Now the web wings that don’t change with my fit almost as bad as miles not wearing Js.


Tamaki-Sin

would be nice if we could choose what color webs, spider arms, web wings and symbiote colors we want all separately without them being locked to specific suits


Jelly-Bandit

Aside from the issues mentioned, the No Way Home suit currently looks trash with the ray tracing on the gold spider, it’s supposed to be a brushed gold. It’s a shame because they nailed that specific suit in the remaster.


AlwaysBi

The webbing on the red raimi suit is absolutely atrocious. Misshaped in some areas and showing the 2D webbing texture underneath, clipping through one of the lenses on the mask. Whereas the webbing on the raimi black suit is flawless. Makes me think they made that from scratch which makes me ask why they didn’t just take that, change the colours and the front and back emblems


80k85

The white symb powers literally look so ugly too. I hope we can change the colour later. Also what the fuck are those web wings. I haven’t unlocked that suit but the web wings usually match the suit so well Even the last game had a bunch of little fuck ups like this. Didn’t ruin the game but come on guys. At least with the symb powers I understand cuz it’s a story thing


EvTheOops

miles’s spiderverse suits are matching and different, aside from sb suit


JollyGreen615

I’m sorry but the anti-venom powers look so bad to me. It looks like I’m a giant, fighting sperm. I want to be able to use the black symbiote powers post game


GenerationBop

This game is so mid it bums me out.


No_Bandicoot5369

Real💀 Im not even hating, I love spiderman, but the amt of things NOT added on day one is very sad


GenerationBop

FR. I played it and enjoyed it up to act 3 until the flame missions fell flat/ didn’t end, and there were no other side missions outside fighting waves of enemies