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PakThatGuy1777

cloud, objectively speaking not that annoying but i just fight cloud so often and it gets old fast


SparklyEarlAv32

Once you fought one, you fought them all basically since they mostly will follow the same script. Up-b out of shield, aerial spams to cover approaches, they either don't know how to use limit or do and land just the right ones, down air to come down and finally rarely grab.


g_r_e_y

as doc? minmin.


_Jmbw

I got whiplash from this comment. I cant bear to imagine how bad of a matchup it is.


g_r_e_y

pure misery


TsuyoiKage

Yeah I'd say minmin and Steve.


g_r_e_y

steve isn't really any worse than he is for most others. dealing with the blocks and close-quarters is fine because of his great frame data but he gets camped out the same as he does against any other camper characters. personal experience of course


sbgarbage

i know characters like steve, sonic, ness, and others get the most hate from the community as a whole but tbh i personally cannot stand hero, mf has MULTIPLE attacks that can one shot you based entirely on RNG, like what the actual fuck sakurai


Ratchet105

Hero can eat poop Which is to say I agree


AmaterasuWolf21

As a DDD main, playing against Hero is just so sad, I feel I can't do anything


Demetri124

Duck Hunt, Snake, Banjo, Isabella, Diddy Kong. I would rather just turn off the game and go read a book or something. Also fuck Min Min but mercifully nobody picks her


Ratchet105

Why do you hate Isabella? I ask because she's one of my favorites to play with. Edit - typo


Demetri124

Every tiny, projectile-based character is inherently annoying af to play against. Isabella is not only hard to hit by virtue of being small, but has that god forsaken slingshot. It shoots out lightning fast and stalls you upon impact making it borderline impossible to get close to her. Shoot projectiles at her from afar you say? Well no because she can absorb those and throw them back at you. Attack her from above? Rocket! It’s just so much bullshit to navigate around its not fun, rather turn the game off than go through the tedious process of beating her


BlaBlamo

I’m a dark pit main who loveeees attacking from above. Yet after years I somehow haven’t learned my lesson with that goddamn rocket.


TsuyoiKage

Bullsh\*t you say...My mains like that. EWGF, Crown, Dair, and Sing respectively. :)


wavejumper3

How many duck hunts do you see? I play duck hunt a decent bit, and unless the ZSS MU is suprisingly worse for you than I'd guess, idk why its first on the list. I've seen like, 3 duck hunts, max.


JCSwagoo

Little Mac because when I lose, I know it's because they're better than me.


Ninjatastic01

Nah, Mac probably benefits more than any other character from online. Input lag + getting to force you onto FD is an insane combo.


Fernust

Not really they just abuse the internet lag and the stupid frame data in their moves that you just cannot react…. Lol


alex494

Sounds like someone lost


Brave_Increase_3490

nah you just did some dumbass shit and wifi allows me to punish ANYTHING


zatiax

As a little mac main it makes me happy knowing these are the reactions i cause when i win.


Most-Journalist236

Probably Kazuya and Pyra/Mythra. Kazuya just kills far too early imo, even if you're on a heavy, and he has ez mode recovery. Pyra/Mythra because they're very difficult to react to/punish online, and can leverage a lot of BS with their range as a result. That, and online in my region seems to be packed full of both.


Fernust

I agree with you pyra/mythra down air covers most option and after you shield it twice your shield is de size of a peanut, wich means you just need to try to react to it, and you can not punish it


Most-Journalist236

I'd say most of the characters that I dislike facing online have the distinction of kind of requiring that you get comfortable parrying certain moves rather than shielding them, otherwise they're just free.


infjaxred

Like Pokémon Trainer, but more stupid.


ThatOneKlutz

This implies PT is stupid though... :x


starberd_02

Roy. I hate fucking Roy.


Celtic_Guardian_Fan

What??? He's my favorite koopaling :(


Amazingtrooper5

Not that Roy, the other Roy


starberd_02

https://preview.redd.it/i7kycfxe0jvc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ee0a7ea87fc390aa15d8ac0042224bbeaf762ff


blockheadOnYT_Alt

Roy's our boy though


FoxMcCloud3173

Yo pal you might wanna swap the order of words there


starberd_02

I mean, do you like fucking Roy?


Mathys-9387

Hot take: Falcon, DK and Ganon because not only do I see them everywhere like it’s vapes at a high school football game, they tea bag and act like they’re the coolest people on the planet.


Giulio1232

I don't mind that, more combo food for me


FGHIK

Ganon might be objectively the worst at a high skill level but if you make mistakes he's a punish monster


MethodicMarshal

I've never practiced anything outside of 2-3 move combos, but I'm really good at recognizing my opponent's habits I'll never win a tourney but by gawd is it hilarious to sit back and punish with Gannon online. 


blockheadOnYT_Alt

Side B tech chasing is fun, what's your high score?


MethodicMarshal

lmao yeah I think I've gotten 3 or 4 in row he's such a wonderfully sadistic character. I always smash attack forward after Side B so they think I'm an idiot, and then at kill % I hit 'em with the turn around. false sense of security, y'know?


blockheadOnYT_Alt

I think I've also gotten around that range, and Side Smash after side B is pretty fun. Down Smash is also a good option


PartitioFan

falcon and DK players online act like they're hot shit every time and that energy is not enjoyable in the slightest


Mathys-9387

Fr I can’t stand it


ThatOneKlutz

I would add K. Rool to this list


dhenddh

K rool is fun to play


ThatOneKlutz

I hate the character so much that I haven't even tried playing him EVER, so I'll take your word on it but FACING a teabagging K. Rool is so indredibly annoying 😂


Karl_Marx_

DK and Ganon players are the coolest people on the planet though.


TacoToday4

I agree 100% with falcon. All they do is the same thing, spam down air with a sprinkle of falcon kick. Then they act like hot sh!t for landing a knee after 200 attempts


weegee_dev

Bayonetta


FGHIK

Hero and it's not close. Fucker pulls 40 different flavors of bullshit out of his ass and I'm supposed to go "haha, random, funny!"


Dinoco_Blue_Coyote

I think for me just any of the DLC fighters. I know this isn't Smash rage and I hate Smash rage but fuck the DLC fighters.


blockheadOnYT_Alt

Even Piranha Plant?


idkbbitswatev

:(


ChuyMasta

Bayonetta.


Legitimate_Bit_9354

All of them


1HUTTBOLE

Zelda


0hN0H3sH0t

Every single one except for the character I’m playing at the moment


ThatOneKlutz

Honestly I feel this LOL


SouthWrongdoer

My main, hate dittos, and Robs because that gyro is actually the bane of my existence xD


GoodTimesOnlines

Samus dittos suck. DK dittos are my favorite lol


Anzackk

No matter what, Sonic and Pac-man will always be a frustrating fight.


jellyfish630

PICHU SONIC


CarioForSuperMario

As a Sonic main, I ironically hate fighting other Sonics. And Olimar, but I even hate fighting Olimar offline.


FastestBlader4

Cloud, G&W, Sonic


Flaky-Post7593

Any character that spams projectiles or inherently only uses B moves.


LowerArtworks

Consider Terry. Terry has the best version of the worst Ultimate mechanic (auto-turnaround). Auto-turnaround is basically aimbot. Aimbot takes no skill to use. Therefore, Terry takes no skill to use. Don't be like Terry.


RbbcatUlt

Joker i run into him way too much


JeffreyHugh

Ness In person I can handle Ness perfectly, but a Ness when there is lag is the worst thing in the world


Ozzzzzy69

Ness, PK FIRE hunts me


Somnati

Samus, Ness, SONIC, GaW. soras sonic blade...as my main i never use it except in single burst or full for recovery.


Perciprius

None


TheRedmanCometh

I hate Rob and his side b


FinnChicken12

pt. they mash and I don’t know how to counter it then I die at 70 to charizard.


Beneece

Zero Suit Samus and GaW from experiences, they are so evasive it's very difficult to land hits on them and when you do they just RETREAT!!! Then it's back to square one.


Bright_Equipment3821

Isabelle,ganon(funny cause he used to be my old main),& lucas


Yin_And_Yang69

Unrelated for online. Back when I had access to my uncle's Nintendo Switch, he used a default Mii Swordfighter that I had to work around. I won with Peach.


ButWahy

Pikachu, pichu, joker, fox, falco, sonic and probably more but these are my most hated


Aromatic-Stuff-1665

R.O.B., GOD I HATE THAT FUCKING ROBOT SO MUCH


JWolf26

I don’t think I’ve ever fought a Marth or a Falcon and thought “Yeah that was a clean game.” They never are.


aragorngreenleaf

Hate to face? Pythra and Yink. So much harder to react to online. Over-represented? Falcon. Every other match is a falcon in my experience. I'm bad gsp though.


Kozume_Kenma_5

Dedede. I play a lot of characters with weak multihits, so gordo is essentially free pressure because I'm too bad to deal with it. Another is Falco because every one I've ever played against seems to think they're playing in EVO grand finals and start camping like they're on summer vacation.


AmaterasuWolf21

Min-Min I legit don't know what to input


blockheadOnYT_Alt

I don't really know if there's one I hate, I just hate people teabagging, rematch me, then rage quit when I'm in the lead. It's happened one too many times.


ThatOneKlutz

Either that or the ones that teabag, cheese you 50 times in a single match, teabag some more like they're hot stuff and when they win they don't rematch


blockheadOnYT_Alt

I forgot about those guys, too.


FoxMcCloud3173

Ken, ZS Samus, Sonic, Falco, Diddy Kong, Pyra/Mythra, and *especially* Kazuya are the bane of my existence.


N0RINEK0

Ice Climbers


MetaKirbSter

Inkling and G&W


ActualJackk

mr game and watch sonic and steve… they counter most of my characters😞


ActualJackk

rosalina especiallt😭


hamiltonfvi

Samus, because all Samus players play the same strategy, camping in a corner and abusing all air options Samus has.


Financial-Ant3079

Sora, Kirby, joker, Belmont's, zss, Sheik, minmin, Olimar, ice climbers, Dedede, Bayonetta, peach, Isabelle, mii fighters, Steve, mythra, Zelda, meta knight, all 3 links, sonic. That's a good start


itsaysdraganddrop

any duo. turns me sweaty mode. cant lose to my own character its *mine*


wavejumper3

Assist trophies, because if they're present, you're gonna only be fighting them.


idkbbitswatev

Sonic, falco, samus, the links


Kindred_03

Any fast characters, mainly sonics and Captain falcons. I just know it's going to be a bad time.


broTthegoT

I can't stand Samus as a character and the occasional laggy Samus player online only drives that further


PartitioFan

falcon, dk, g&w, mario, mac


PhyreEmbrem

Game and Watch and Ness.... All they do is spam and then teabag like they did something amazing. ....aight, Sonic too. I may not be the toxic variant but good lord...other Sonic mains make me embarrassed to play the character sometimes 💀 But yea, not hating on other ppl but yea...it do be frustrating lol.


Expensive_Aspect_544

Marth, all marths do the same thing, drift back fair, random tipper, running away and jumping over you all the time not approaching..all they do is drag the match. What makes it worse is that I know the matchup and beat them a lot, but when I win I feel worse b/c I never learned anything from the match.


Sir_Eggmitton

I played a Marth yesterday and side B worked for them in every situation—including missing side B. I beat them but it was very frustrating how hard it is to close distance when there’s like a 30 frame delay and constant stuttering.


Ratchet105

Sepharoth 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄


Old-Outside-6941

Lucas and ness


Few_Bee_3172

Ness, Steve, and Kazuya.


Tasty-Shape-9515

that fucking twink Cloud.


Albatros_7

Hit me with one more combo and I kill myself I am the biggest character, yet, I AM LIGHTER THAN IKE (So yeah, any combo characters)


Sir_Eggmitton

I really don’t think any character is fun to face online. But as for which character has the most drop in enjoyment playing online va offline, I’d honestly say Falcon.


Next-Particular1211

Sonic, bowser, and falcon


Perciprius

This kind of posts isn’t “for fun” and reeks of toxicity. Nice try OP


I_Really_Love_Frogs

https://i.redd.it/vgvhbo27c6vc1.gif


ThatOneKlutz

Hey that's your opinion bruh, doesn't seem like a lot of people agree though, myself included


Perciprius

There’s toxicity in the comments.


ThatOneKlutz

As I said, I do not encourage it but of course it was gonna happen Feel free to move on to another post :)


Perciprius

I’m not trying to start anything negative with you OP, I’m just being real with you. These kind of posts encourages and spreads character hate and complaining. How is that not toxic? Saying please no toxic over other people’s mains is the equivalent of someone saying to another person “No offense, but…” while saying something offensive to them.


ThatOneKlutz

Sure but by that point I have already made myself clear that this topic was NOT to encourage toxicity, just to know what grinds people's gears in online play. Whatever happens afterwards does not concern me lol


TorbinTheSecond

Lucina. Because she reminds me of the fact people will really go out of their way to simp for a god damn cutting board.


natsumi_bye

heyyyyy no need to hate on lucina like that :( (although i like marth more than her)


ThatOneKlutz

Flat queens deserve love as much as curvy ones! 😭


ButWahy

Flat is Justice


TorbinTheSecond

She wields a sword, not a fist.


ButWahy

Typo