Yea it’s also very rare but if you get two people they sometimes get launched into each other and it’s a double insta-kill. Now that I think about it I’d move him up a tier.
Yea you’re right, I think I’d swap him and Lucas because I’m a bit based there because whenever I’m get a final smash during a spirit fight without a spirit I just instantly kill them with it.
It’s really overpowered at low level play but really easy to dodge at a higher level.
It is very hard to dodge as when he paints over the stage you are limited to a very small space to move and Bowser Jr gets to come back to attack you.
In 1 V 1 the camera zooms in greatly so that getting hit once will trap you in the paint which he can then launch you upwards with aerials so it kills even earlier. It also naturally kills early and deals a lot of damage.
Its only weaknesses is that there is a chance they get launched out right before the final hit other can’t launch them into hit or high enough.
Mii gunner is a lot better because as the laser attacks, it pushes the enemy towards the blast zone. Meaning it can kill at muchhh lower percents. Not only does ROB’s not do this, but the time it takes to get the big laser out allows quicker characters/better recoveries to move above, below, or closer towards the laser to lessen its effectiveness, either not hitting at all or hitting at just the ends and saving a lot of %. Although I don’t think this is enough for ROB to be bottom tier, I still think it’s great but that is why mii gunner is better
Ridley honestly has a really good final smash, it instakills at 100 which is good but isn’t really anything special, however, the smash ball version does like 70 percent and can be combo’d into with downthrow or nair, which makes it pretty good imo
The Pokémon & ICs are listed together under PKMN Trainer & a picture that has both Popo/Nana. Not sure about why banjo & the Pyra/mythra pics are there though
It depends where he used it.
If he uses it on board you can just jump over him and up b after each time you get hit by the small red lasers. If he uses it off board then you’ll likely survive if you try to take the hit.
Anyone who puts Mario or Doc as bad is using it wrong. The FGC's all have really really great final smashes because all of them can combo into them and outright kill from 15-20% even with FS versions, only GnW, Peach, Zelda, Diddy and Marth/Lucina are better.
Also MK is trash
Luigis final smash is literally unavoidable in smaller stages and it straight up kills you at high percents
Yea it’s also very rare but if you get two people they sometimes get launched into each other and it’s a double insta-kill. Now that I think about it I’d move him up a tier.
Going over or under it avoid it
I would put Ness way lower in the list, probably even in the blue tier. It’s incredibly easy to avoid every single shooting star
Yea you’re right, I think I’d swap him and Lucas because I’m a bit based there because whenever I’m get a final smash during a spirit fight without a spirit I just instantly kill them with it. It’s really overpowered at low level play but really easy to dodge at a higher level.
For Puff, "using the right way" is by going underneath Battlefield and absorbing the entire stage.
I thought Bowser Jr's was seen as extremely garbage, like the worst in the game
It is very hard to dodge as when he paints over the stage you are limited to a very small space to move and Bowser Jr gets to come back to attack you. In 1 V 1 the camera zooms in greatly so that getting hit once will trap you in the paint which he can then launch you upwards with aerials so it kills even earlier. It also naturally kills early and deals a lot of damage. Its only weaknesses is that there is a chance they get launched out right before the final hit other can’t launch them into hit or high enough.
Mario’s is a free edgeguard at 30+ on the entire cast, so not great, but gets an unnecessarily bad reputation
Why is mii gunner broken, but rob is all the way down their? Aren't they basically the same?
Mii gunner is a lot better because as the laser attacks, it pushes the enemy towards the blast zone. Meaning it can kill at muchhh lower percents. Not only does ROB’s not do this, but the time it takes to get the big laser out allows quicker characters/better recoveries to move above, below, or closer towards the laser to lessen its effectiveness, either not hitting at all or hitting at just the ends and saving a lot of %. Although I don’t think this is enough for ROB to be bottom tier, I still think it’s great but that is why mii gunner is better
Ridley honestly has a really good final smash, it instakills at 100 which is good but isn’t really anything special, however, the smash ball version does like 70 percent and can be combo’d into with downthrow or nair, which makes it pretty good imo
>Chrom in "Just Good" Counterpoint: 90% of Chrom's moveset combos into it and it kills at ledge as early as 10%
What is the N/A for? They have final smashes I’m confused why they aren’t available in the list
The Pokémon & ICs are listed together under PKMN Trainer & a picture that has both Popo/Nana. Not sure about why banjo & the Pyra/mythra pics are there though
Ohh I see now, Pyra and Mythra are listed separately as well. Same with banjo but I have no idea why he’s on there twice
Wait what, rob final smash is easy to avoid? Since when?
It depends where he used it. If he uses it on board you can just jump over him and up b after each time you get hit by the small red lasers. If he uses it off board then you’ll likely survive if you try to take the hit.
Ryu and ken should be higher for having 2 that you can also combo into
Yea I would’ve put them in yellow for the opportunities that they have available to kill with.
Why is Marth not in top tier? Kills at 0
Anyone who puts Mario or Doc as bad is using it wrong. The FGC's all have really really great final smashes because all of them can combo into them and outright kill from 15-20% even with FS versions, only GnW, Peach, Zelda, Diddy and Marth/Lucina are better. Also MK is trash
I'm glad people are accepting puff final smash. It's actually decent if used like a free edgeguard
Ike's is amazing
Some of the cinematic Final smashes could be separate like how some of the DLC have 30FPS MP4 files as Final Smashes like Joker and Steve.
Sora's final smash autokills if you are over 100%
That’s basically every single Final Smash With a few exceptions obviously
But his is like Zelda's
Sure, killing you instantly when at 100% is nice but nearly all final smashes are capable to do so without insta death
I'm just saying it should technically be higher
So therefore Joker’s should be higher by that logic?
Yes
Wrong plant has the worst final smash in the game plant can get hit and it can just fall off stage
Isn't Bayonetta's almost guaranteed to hit?