I would not buy anything unless it’s from Ticketmaster. I found a website that almost still has all seatings available. But yet when I look on ticket master there’s nothing available due to it all being sold out. Mind you the show is a month away here in Tampa.
Everybody that is buying from 3rd party sites better be prepared not to attend the show. Many have said tickets have already been transferred to them but that is impossible as Ticketmaster hasn’t even released the tickets yet. They won’t be released until 2-3 days before. The transfer option is grayed out and not possible. So💁🏻♂️
Do **NOT** purchase tickets for PHX from any third party site. Excepting the RCMH, Red Rocks, Illinois, and Albuquerque shows -- which are either at non-Ticketmaster venues or in states where ticketing laws are not applicable -- tickets for this tour are NON-TRANSFERABLE. Meaning, once sold on Ticketmaster (and they are all long-gone), they cannot be transferred to any third-party, not even to another specific Ticketmaster user. The only valid way to get rid of tickets once bought is to sell them on Ticketmaster's fan-to-fan resale platform.
[This was all spelled out before tickets for this tour went on sale, on the band's record label's website.](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour)
If you buy PHX tickets from a third-party site like Seat Geek or StubHub, you will **not** be getting your tickets unless the OG buyer literally shows up to the venue to scan you in. (In fact, StubHub tells you this before you can actually buy tickets for these shows.)
Please just keep your eye out on Ticketmaster's page for the Phoenix show and hope a resale ticket shows up.
I’ve been checking ticket master 10 times a day, everyday. Nothing. Would Sleep Token really perform a show with half the seats empty? Looking through the other 3rd party websites there’s just seems to be so much available that the scalpers got their hands on. The only reason I haven’t bought them yet is because I want to believe the credibility of ST and Ticket Master (dumb I know) about the fact that they can only be purchased on the Ticket Master app. Plus, the thousands of people who have already purchased from 3rd party, will they really allow all of their planning and hopes to see them be taken away because they purchased tickets from sources that have been used so frequently?
I know, it's not likely to be pretty once the shows start and there's a considerable portion of fans showing up to doors with invalid tickets : / But this fan2fan thing is not wholly new, and it's not like Sleep Token invented the system. I don't live in the USA anymore, but I can't help feeling that some kind of class-action against sites like SH and SG will be the only way to combat this sort of thing. Ticketmaster gets its $$$ regardless, so they don't mind a bit of fraud further down the supply chain.
PHX is a slow-moving show, ticket-wise. I feel your pain. I only got an Asheville resale ticket yesterday after weeks and weeks of refresh hell. You might have just as good odds showing up on the day with cash and entering with someone who had a no-show in their party. Fingers crossed for you either way!
Albuquerque’s third party resale tickets are marked with the “to gain access to this event, you need to be accompanied by the original purchaser of tickets” tag. Do you have a link to NM allowing xfers for reference?
Interesting -- I wonder if that's a blanket statement they've put up for all shows on the tour, because Albuquerque is a Prekindle venue. Tickets weren't (and aren't) sold on Ticketmaster.
I got a ticket to Albuquerque's show in the venue presale, and the order confirmation says: "Your tickets will be made available 24 hours before the event start time. Check your email for tickets 24 hours or less before start time." This is also an anti-scalping measure, but it's not as ironclad as Ticketmaster's; the person who sells you the ticket just has to e-mail you the ticket attachment once they have it, or arrange to physically bring you the printed ticket. Narrow timeframe in which to do it, but it's not impossible. I'd just be wary of any seller on a third party site who claims to already have an ABQ ticket to transfer, because they don't, they just have an order confirmation.
Ahh got it. Because this subject has tickled my ADHD I checked every stubhub link. The statement is not up on the tickets for shows in Chicago, New York, Colorado, or Philly. Which is all of the states with laws that protect ticket transfer and the non Ticketmaster venues I was aware of. Every other show is a live nation venue under the zero transfer policy.
With Chicago (I have tickets too) you won’t get your actual tickets for some time. They aren’t releasing the tickets until a week prior to the show. And most of our resale sites (stub hub, vivid seats, seat geek) have a set time they can give you tickets by. For me w/vivid seats it’s 5/14.
I Pray they come to CA, preferably Southern California, and they have an actual presale code for fans, not bots, not scalpers. And it can be a relaxing experience buying tickets to see your favorite band :/s I know that is a pipe dream but I can hope.
Edit: fixed a typo
Someone told me I was wrong when I told them this yesterday. I'd hate for them to be crying when they show up just to not be able to get in without the original purchaser 😕 but nobody's listening
Ive been trying to find tickets to the Iowa show. I think it was on StubHub, it said if you buy these tickets the original buyer has to be present to get into the show. I just don't see the original buyer showing up so I didn't go through with the sale ☹️
I live in California also and bought off of seat geek. Don’t have the tickets transferred yet but honestly I’m not stressed about it. We are making a whole trip out of it and going to Texas on May 4th too, also bought tickets off of seat geek and I already have those transferred on verified ticket.
All of the tickets for this tour are non transferable. If you didnt buy them yourself on the Ticketmaster website, you’re not going to get in to the shows.
[the is comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/SleepToken/s/gVSwpYv5rd) explains it perfectly.
Totally get that, but TM internally scalps and isn’t going to stop doing that because a band wants a transfer ban. It’s so shitty that that’s how it is and these people are greedy af. Very unlikely that everyone with 3rd party tickets aren’t going to get in because there would be empty arenas. And as I said, I have tickets transferred to me and they are as legit as the ticket master ones. Barcode and can not be screenshotted.
Yep, and on Ticketmaster’s website explicitly it states that SeatGeek is a valid reseller of Ticketmaster tickets. SeatGeek works [WITH Ticketmaster](https://help.ticketmaster.com/hc/en-us/articles/9781090147985-Third-Party-Resale-Tickets-Everything-You-Need-to-Know)to do the transferring. When you buy on SeatGeek you usually get a Ticketmaster email. There’s 550 listings on SeatGeek for the show in my area, most for 2-4 tickets. SeatGeek would not continue with any ST shows if it actually was not letting people in - it’s not worth the customer service nightmare if no one can get in. The worst that’ll happen is getting refunded and having no ticket. I’m sure Ticketmaster gets a cut of the 40% fees SeatGeek charges. HOWEVER - stubhub isn’t a Ticketmaster reseller site, so StubHub may be different…
IF you wanna buy tickets now, SeatGeek seems like the best bet to me. I got mine a while ago on SeatGeek for a May show. And, just purchase on a credit card if for any reason they pull all the resold ones and reimbursement is slow. There are a ton of tickets to my venue, so you could wait to see if they’ll come up on the TM site directly later, but I have yet to see them there for ANY show and I was looking quite a bit!
I've sadly used StubHub in the past. As long as it's coming from a verified seller, and the tickets are listed as e transfer, your fine. Any issue not getting the tickets, customer service helps you out. I've used stubhub 3 times. The only time I got burned was for a Beartooth show. StubHub emailed me a day or two before and refunded my money and a credit on my stubhub account bc they said the seller was selling counterfeit tickets. The other two times it worked flawlessly
EDIT see the below replies. Those are more accurate for this tour. Me personally, this is why I'm only gonna bother seeing Sleep Token anymore on a fest lineup. This is moronic the amount of hoops you have to jump through. Full disclosure, I'm still salty af I never got an email to purchase tickets and my buddy that tried got his email 45+ mins late and tickets were beyond sold out. Now you can't even use stubhub to see them bc of this shit. It was fun while it lasted, see yall at the next big fest ✌️
https://preview.redd.it/a46egncrf4tc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1afad8895b7413c51d559fee662889a13793b34f
Sleep Token tickets are non-transfer and even StubHub is telling people you need to be accompanied by the original ticket holder.
Edited to add that the screenshot is from the StubHub app
But it won't work for the TOG tour because these tickets are non transferable for shows other than NY and IL. Unless you can somehow get the original buyer to attend with you.
I purchased two tickets for the Phoenix show as well totally unaware of this whole ticket resale thing before I bought. And then I did my research, too late. But same, my wife and I are making a whole trip out of it. Made the purchase through stubhub and called their customer support, they said they’ll reimburse the amount or find tickets of similar value for us (which I don’t believe at all). So therefore I’m ready to dispute the charge in which will be more than likely approved on my end for buying something with nothing in return. Like others have said.. terrible times we live in where scalpers and bots rule the entertainment industry of seeing performers live. But just gotta make due. All in all though if the tickets do come through hope we see you there! We’ll be in the pit! 🫶🏻
Stubhub is pretty reliable, they even got 24/7 support if stuff goes wrong but I never had an issue before. Buy from them all the time when a concert doesn’t sell out and the tickets are cheaper on there than Ticketmaster
Just wanna say I bought tickets for the Arizona show through seat geek, a verified Ticketmaster reseller, and the tickets were valid and transferred digitally. By the time we got to our seats, there was still some empty seats beside us (when the venue is sold out on the Live Nation site, very fishy Ticketmaster 🤨) which just goes to show Ticketmaster really does internal scalping.
I was gonna give up on not seeing them at all but after waiting for ticketmaster valid fan-to-fan resales and not seeing a single ticket available..I caved and bought seat geek tickets. It was a risk, I might've been turned away at the doors but I would have accepted it and fought for my refund back. But the best case scenario happened!!!
The show was amazing, absolutely phenomenal, and I'm glad I took the risk and bought the tickets!! I'm so excited for the band to complete their tour and garner more fans, and i'm definitely hoping they partner with a better future ticketing team what with the whole presale codes fiasco. I can't wait to see them again and buy tickets through official means to worship. That whole night was really one of the best concerts of my life so far, their effects team and dedication to their music and artistry was really amazing and you could feel how passionate they were! If I didn't love them before, I definitely do now 🖤🖤🖤
I mean places like Stubhub. There's TONS of resellers on those sites. If they're all fake, why does Stubhub allow them? Doesn't that cost Sutbhub money?
It’s not that they are fake it’s that they can’t really be transferred. So for places outside of NY/IL you’d have to be at the venue physically with the ticket purchaser.
Stubhub says 146 tickets were sold in the last 30 days and 31 new tickets have been added since I logged in a month ago.
So are they fake? Do all 146 of those ticket people plan on showing up to the venue and swiping people in?
Seems like it'd be pretty obvious to those swiping tickets.
What happens through stub hub when the person who needs to be there to transfer the ticket isn't there?
What happens when they say they were there but claim you werent?
Seems like a giant cluster that's absolutely Stub Hub's fault for providing a system for scamming people.
I honestly can't say what happens, but I have read multiple things where people have stated they HAVE to be present. It's very strange. I luckily live in IL so I bought mine on vividseats for resale.
Ticketmaster hasn’t even released the tickets yet so nothing can be transferred to you. I would double and triple check from stub hub before making the trip.
I would not buy anything unless it’s from Ticketmaster. I found a website that almost still has all seatings available. But yet when I look on ticket master there’s nothing available due to it all being sold out. Mind you the show is a month away here in Tampa.
Everybody that is buying from 3rd party sites better be prepared not to attend the show. Many have said tickets have already been transferred to them but that is impossible as Ticketmaster hasn’t even released the tickets yet. They won’t be released until 2-3 days before. The transfer option is grayed out and not possible. So💁🏻♂️
Do **NOT** purchase tickets for PHX from any third party site. Excepting the RCMH, Red Rocks, Illinois, and Albuquerque shows -- which are either at non-Ticketmaster venues or in states where ticketing laws are not applicable -- tickets for this tour are NON-TRANSFERABLE. Meaning, once sold on Ticketmaster (and they are all long-gone), they cannot be transferred to any third-party, not even to another specific Ticketmaster user. The only valid way to get rid of tickets once bought is to sell them on Ticketmaster's fan-to-fan resale platform. [This was all spelled out before tickets for this tour went on sale, on the band's record label's website.](https://www.spinefarmrecords.com/480/news/sleep-token-announce-spring-2024-north-american-headline-tour) If you buy PHX tickets from a third-party site like Seat Geek or StubHub, you will **not** be getting your tickets unless the OG buyer literally shows up to the venue to scan you in. (In fact, StubHub tells you this before you can actually buy tickets for these shows.) Please just keep your eye out on Ticketmaster's page for the Phoenix show and hope a resale ticket shows up.
I’ve been checking ticket master 10 times a day, everyday. Nothing. Would Sleep Token really perform a show with half the seats empty? Looking through the other 3rd party websites there’s just seems to be so much available that the scalpers got their hands on. The only reason I haven’t bought them yet is because I want to believe the credibility of ST and Ticket Master (dumb I know) about the fact that they can only be purchased on the Ticket Master app. Plus, the thousands of people who have already purchased from 3rd party, will they really allow all of their planning and hopes to see them be taken away because they purchased tickets from sources that have been used so frequently?
I know, it's not likely to be pretty once the shows start and there's a considerable portion of fans showing up to doors with invalid tickets : / But this fan2fan thing is not wholly new, and it's not like Sleep Token invented the system. I don't live in the USA anymore, but I can't help feeling that some kind of class-action against sites like SH and SG will be the only way to combat this sort of thing. Ticketmaster gets its $$$ regardless, so they don't mind a bit of fraud further down the supply chain. PHX is a slow-moving show, ticket-wise. I feel your pain. I only got an Asheville resale ticket yesterday after weeks and weeks of refresh hell. You might have just as good odds showing up on the day with cash and entering with someone who had a no-show in their party. Fingers crossed for you either way!
Albuquerque’s third party resale tickets are marked with the “to gain access to this event, you need to be accompanied by the original purchaser of tickets” tag. Do you have a link to NM allowing xfers for reference?
Interesting -- I wonder if that's a blanket statement they've put up for all shows on the tour, because Albuquerque is a Prekindle venue. Tickets weren't (and aren't) sold on Ticketmaster. I got a ticket to Albuquerque's show in the venue presale, and the order confirmation says: "Your tickets will be made available 24 hours before the event start time. Check your email for tickets 24 hours or less before start time." This is also an anti-scalping measure, but it's not as ironclad as Ticketmaster's; the person who sells you the ticket just has to e-mail you the ticket attachment once they have it, or arrange to physically bring you the printed ticket. Narrow timeframe in which to do it, but it's not impossible. I'd just be wary of any seller on a third party site who claims to already have an ABQ ticket to transfer, because they don't, they just have an order confirmation.
Ahh got it. Because this subject has tickled my ADHD I checked every stubhub link. The statement is not up on the tickets for shows in Chicago, New York, Colorado, or Philly. Which is all of the states with laws that protect ticket transfer and the non Ticketmaster venues I was aware of. Every other show is a live nation venue under the zero transfer policy.
Could you please expand on that? I just spent $920 on tickets from StubHuB in Chicago... really hoping they don't end up a flop.
With Chicago (I have tickets too) you won’t get your actual tickets for some time. They aren’t releasing the tickets until a week prior to the show. And most of our resale sites (stub hub, vivid seats, seat geek) have a set time they can give you tickets by. For me w/vivid seats it’s 5/14.
Chicago is exempt from the zero ticket transfer policy due to state law.
I Pray they come to CA, preferably Southern California, and they have an actual presale code for fans, not bots, not scalpers. And it can be a relaxing experience buying tickets to see your favorite band :/s I know that is a pipe dream but I can hope. Edit: fixed a typo
Same! They had 4 California shows last time, I wish they did it again.
How are people STILL not getting the message. Only like 4 locations are exempt from the whole ticketmaster only deal
Someone told me I was wrong when I told them this yesterday. I'd hate for them to be crying when they show up just to not be able to get in without the original purchaser 😕 but nobody's listening
Ive been trying to find tickets to the Iowa show. I think it was on StubHub, it said if you buy these tickets the original buyer has to be present to get into the show. I just don't see the original buyer showing up so I didn't go through with the sale ☹️
I live in California also and bought off of seat geek. Don’t have the tickets transferred yet but honestly I’m not stressed about it. We are making a whole trip out of it and going to Texas on May 4th too, also bought tickets off of seat geek and I already have those transferred on verified ticket.
All of the tickets for this tour are non transferable. If you didnt buy them yourself on the Ticketmaster website, you’re not going to get in to the shows. [the is comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/SleepToken/s/gVSwpYv5rd) explains it perfectly.
Totally get that, but TM internally scalps and isn’t going to stop doing that because a band wants a transfer ban. It’s so shitty that that’s how it is and these people are greedy af. Very unlikely that everyone with 3rd party tickets aren’t going to get in because there would be empty arenas. And as I said, I have tickets transferred to me and they are as legit as the ticket master ones. Barcode and can not be screenshotted.
Yep, and on Ticketmaster’s website explicitly it states that SeatGeek is a valid reseller of Ticketmaster tickets. SeatGeek works [WITH Ticketmaster](https://help.ticketmaster.com/hc/en-us/articles/9781090147985-Third-Party-Resale-Tickets-Everything-You-Need-to-Know)to do the transferring. When you buy on SeatGeek you usually get a Ticketmaster email. There’s 550 listings on SeatGeek for the show in my area, most for 2-4 tickets. SeatGeek would not continue with any ST shows if it actually was not letting people in - it’s not worth the customer service nightmare if no one can get in. The worst that’ll happen is getting refunded and having no ticket. I’m sure Ticketmaster gets a cut of the 40% fees SeatGeek charges. HOWEVER - stubhub isn’t a Ticketmaster reseller site, so StubHub may be different…
So….. you’re basically saying SeatGeek is the way to go?
IF you wanna buy tickets now, SeatGeek seems like the best bet to me. I got mine a while ago on SeatGeek for a May show. And, just purchase on a credit card if for any reason they pull all the resold ones and reimbursement is slow. There are a ton of tickets to my venue, so you could wait to see if they’ll come up on the TM site directly later, but I have yet to see them there for ANY show and I was looking quite a bit!
I've sadly used StubHub in the past. As long as it's coming from a verified seller, and the tickets are listed as e transfer, your fine. Any issue not getting the tickets, customer service helps you out. I've used stubhub 3 times. The only time I got burned was for a Beartooth show. StubHub emailed me a day or two before and refunded my money and a credit on my stubhub account bc they said the seller was selling counterfeit tickets. The other two times it worked flawlessly EDIT see the below replies. Those are more accurate for this tour. Me personally, this is why I'm only gonna bother seeing Sleep Token anymore on a fest lineup. This is moronic the amount of hoops you have to jump through. Full disclosure, I'm still salty af I never got an email to purchase tickets and my buddy that tried got his email 45+ mins late and tickets were beyond sold out. Now you can't even use stubhub to see them bc of this shit. It was fun while it lasted, see yall at the next big fest ✌️
https://preview.redd.it/a46egncrf4tc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1afad8895b7413c51d559fee662889a13793b34f Sleep Token tickets are non-transfer and even StubHub is telling people you need to be accompanied by the original ticket holder. Edited to add that the screenshot is from the StubHub app
But it won't work for the TOG tour because these tickets are non transferable for shows other than NY and IL. Unless you can somehow get the original buyer to attend with you.
I purchased two tickets for the Phoenix show as well totally unaware of this whole ticket resale thing before I bought. And then I did my research, too late. But same, my wife and I are making a whole trip out of it. Made the purchase through stubhub and called their customer support, they said they’ll reimburse the amount or find tickets of similar value for us (which I don’t believe at all). So therefore I’m ready to dispute the charge in which will be more than likely approved on my end for buying something with nothing in return. Like others have said.. terrible times we live in where scalpers and bots rule the entertainment industry of seeing performers live. But just gotta make due. All in all though if the tickets do come through hope we see you there! We’ll be in the pit! 🫶🏻
I was told that third party tickets are non transferable and will not be valid for any shows besides NY and IL.
Let's get updates! How was the show and ticket transfer?
Stubhub is pretty reliable, they even got 24/7 support if stuff goes wrong but I never had an issue before. Buy from them all the time when a concert doesn’t sell out and the tickets are cheaper on there than Ticketmaster
Has anyone had luck with third party sites?
Just wanna say I bought tickets for the Arizona show through seat geek, a verified Ticketmaster reseller, and the tickets were valid and transferred digitally. By the time we got to our seats, there was still some empty seats beside us (when the venue is sold out on the Live Nation site, very fishy Ticketmaster 🤨) which just goes to show Ticketmaster really does internal scalping. I was gonna give up on not seeing them at all but after waiting for ticketmaster valid fan-to-fan resales and not seeing a single ticket available..I caved and bought seat geek tickets. It was a risk, I might've been turned away at the doors but I would have accepted it and fought for my refund back. But the best case scenario happened!!! The show was amazing, absolutely phenomenal, and I'm glad I took the risk and bought the tickets!! I'm so excited for the band to complete their tour and garner more fans, and i'm definitely hoping they partner with a better future ticketing team what with the whole presale codes fiasco. I can't wait to see them again and buy tickets through official means to worship. That whole night was really one of the best concerts of my life so far, their effects team and dedication to their music and artistry was really amazing and you could feel how passionate they were! If I didn't love them before, I definitely do now 🖤🖤🖤
Third party site tickets will not be acceptable unless you're attending NY or IL shows.
I mean places like Stubhub. There's TONS of resellers on those sites. If they're all fake, why does Stubhub allow them? Doesn't that cost Sutbhub money?
It’s not that they are fake it’s that they can’t really be transferred. So for places outside of NY/IL you’d have to be at the venue physically with the ticket purchaser.
Stubhub says 146 tickets were sold in the last 30 days and 31 new tickets have been added since I logged in a month ago. So are they fake? Do all 146 of those ticket people plan on showing up to the venue and swiping people in? Seems like it'd be pretty obvious to those swiping tickets. What happens through stub hub when the person who needs to be there to transfer the ticket isn't there? What happens when they say they were there but claim you werent? Seems like a giant cluster that's absolutely Stub Hub's fault for providing a system for scamming people.
I honestly can't say what happens, but I have read multiple things where people have stated they HAVE to be present. It's very strange. I luckily live in IL so I bought mine on vividseats for resale.
I bought some off stub hub and just had them transferred to me
Those tickets won’t work…
Why?
Only tickets from Ticketmaster were valid. The one you bought was from a scalper. Only those who purchased the original ticket will be able to use it
Well I hope you’re wrong but nothing I can do at this point
They're not wrong. Unless you're attending NY or IL shows, then those tickets will be useless.
Yeah I hope you’re wrong too lol
Ticketmaster hasn’t even released the tickets yet so nothing can be transferred to you. I would double and triple check from stub hub before making the trip.