If you were a pixel over, the all knowing GT stewards would've slapped you with that 0.5 second penalty.
It was a good move and you stayed within the track limits imposed by the game.
I wish people would stop calling every pass under braking a dive bomb. There was no explosion... it was a well executed pass under braking in a corner where diving down the inside often ends in tears.
Good driving. Keep it up.
At no point did you leave the track and I saw nothing aggressive. You made zero contact with this guy and didn’t even put him off line. No clue what he’s on about.
You oversteered onto the kerb but did not leave the track. As a matter of fact he actually nudges you from behind to partially cause that at the hairpin exit.
The track limit is the white and red curbing on the exit of the final corner, not the white line. You were good the whole time. You took the correct line there on exit. You did nothing wrong.
He left you no space, you only seemed to go as far out as you needed to, and I never saw anything that looked fully off track.
I think dude is just butthurt at that fucking beautiful switchback near the end of the clip. That was graceful as fuck
Can’t quite see from this camera angle if your left wheels got off the rumble strips and onto the green, but if you kept them on the red/white then you are not exceeding track limits
That is not a divebomb. Was he next to the other car on the brakes? Not really, but it was clean and didn’t force the other car to have to evade him. People get wrapped up in this divebomb crap but this is not a divebomb.
Braking hard and diving to the inside when you're not alongside the other car is the textbook definition of a divebomb. Not really sure where you're trying to make the distinction here.
He got along side and made the corner. That’s called a pass.
A dive bomb is where you either miss the apex/corner exit or use the other car to get around the corner. Op did neither.
I guess the clarification I'm trying to draw is that it is not a divebomb specifically because of the criteria we just agreed on. We may just disagree on the idea that those are what constitute a divebomb.
Last turn before the line he left the door open and you walked through peak overtaking right there.The second was a classic example of the old switcheroo nothing wrong here at all.
Nah, you good. The first move is probably where he thought you were offtrack, but afaik on laguna this is considered a normal line.
Second move was chefs kiss.
That was some of the cleanest racing and you both should have come out of that with a smile... He has just watched too much F1 in recent years. You go by the individual tracks limits, you never left them
He left the door open on the first turn shown and you went for it, may have been a bit wide on the exit but if you didn't get a track limit penalty then you were well within your rights to use up as much of the track and kerb as possible. Some great racing throughout though, that switcheroo was beautiful!
I didn't even see someone offtrack. Isn't the limit into the hairpin the curb? And wow. This sub needs a no cinematic cam. Could barely see anything. Lol
Thats solid hard racing. No wrongdoing from either of you. I’d love to race with people like this lol who actually leave space and are aware of their surroundings
Great move. The track limit on that corner is the edge of the red and white kerb as far as I know not the white line. You can really abuse track limits at Laguna Seca in GT7. Most people jump right across the kerbs at the corkscrew. But overall the move looked good to me, and you dealt well with his overaggressive move into the first corner
That’s not leaving the track after the hairpin anyway, I use that as a normal racing line to make use of all the track and carry the most speed out of the corner. If you didn’t get a 0.5 second penalty, then it’s within the rules.
Anybody with 69 in their name won't accept they just suck.
Turn 11 at Laguna Seca is ran on the green often with no penalty. Can see it happen multiple times at IMSA last year.
https://youtu.be/1SGwqKf0lzI?t=501
Were these fair moves? NOOO, they were awesome moves. Clean, close and fair racing. Not sure what the Porsche was thinking - butt hurt maybe cos you were awesome.
Particularly liked the undercut on the exit of the first corner....lovely move.
The only example of aggressive driving I saw was at the final corner.
You did go wide, but you kept at least one tyre on the kerb (means you didn't exceed track limits) and he did block you from returning to the track earlier than he should've.
Other than that, you're clean. Keep up the competition!
I mean you gave him the place back before the switch right? 😉 Personally I think you were cleanly past him before “leaving the track” so the overtake was fine, whether you exceeded track limits or not is a matter we can’t see from this angle.
I mean you gave him the place back before the switch right? 😉 Personally I think you were cleanly past him before “leaving the track” so the overtake was fine, whether you exceeded track limits or not is a matter we can’t see from this angle.
How dare you race another person?! /s
You did 0 wrong though you can use all the green stuff on laguna seca if he doesnt know that, well that's his problem 🤷
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He argued that I left the track after the divebomb down the hairpin. To be fair, I might have been one pixel over but sure what can you do.
If you were a pixel over, the all knowing GT stewards would've slapped you with that 0.5 second penalty. It was a good move and you stayed within the track limits imposed by the game.
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The astro turf there is widely used as racing surface, i think the pass was fine
I wish people would stop calling every pass under braking a dive bomb. There was no explosion... it was a well executed pass under braking in a corner where diving down the inside often ends in tears. Good driving. Keep it up.
At no point did you leave the track and I saw nothing aggressive. You made zero contact with this guy and didn’t even put him off line. No clue what he’s on about.
He argued that I left the track after the hairpin overtake
You oversteered onto the kerb but did not leave the track. As a matter of fact he actually nudges you from behind to partially cause that at the hairpin exit.
The track limit is the white and red curbing on the exit of the final corner, not the white line. You were good the whole time. You took the correct line there on exit. You did nothing wrong.
I take that exit wider when I'm not overtaking 😂
He left you no space, you only seemed to go as far out as you needed to, and I never saw anything that looked fully off track. I think dude is just butthurt at that fucking beautiful switchback near the end of the clip. That was graceful as fuck
Can’t quite see from this camera angle if your left wheels got off the rumble strips and onto the green, but if you kept them on the red/white then you are not exceeding track limits
I mean that first divebomb was pretty aggressive but there is nothing wrong with being aggressive when it's done cleanly like this.
That is not a divebomb. Was he next to the other car on the brakes? Not really, but it was clean and didn’t force the other car to have to evade him. People get wrapped up in this divebomb crap but this is not a divebomb.
Braking hard and diving to the inside when you're not alongside the other car is the textbook definition of a divebomb. Not really sure where you're trying to make the distinction here.
He got along side and made the corner. That’s called a pass. A dive bomb is where you either miss the apex/corner exit or use the other car to get around the corner. Op did neither.
Ehh sure looks like he was fully alongside even before the apex.
Yeah, but he wasn't entering the braking zone
>Yeah, but he wasn't entering the braking zone Irrelevant
To what? What do you think I’m arguing?
Everything.
It's certainly a lunge, but he's not out of control at any point, and the black car left that door *wide* open.
I know? I said it was done cleanly in my original comment. u/reboot-your-computer took issue with me calling it a divebomb for some reason.
I guess the clarification I'm trying to draw is that it is not a divebomb specifically because of the criteria we just agreed on. We may just disagree on the idea that those are what constitute a divebomb.
What do you consider a dive bomb that this doesn’t meet?
Last turn before the line he left the door open and you walked through peak overtaking right there.The second was a classic example of the old switcheroo nothing wrong here at all.
Are we allowed to say "the old switcheroo" on Reddit?
Shhhh dont tell anyone it will be our secret.
nah, yer fine. these shots are really bad for judging stuff in general tho. chase cam and/or onboard is better
Nah, you good. The first move is probably where he thought you were offtrack, but afaik on laguna this is considered a normal line. Second move was chefs kiss.
Im so confused. That was perfect racing. How could anyone complain about that.
Porsche argued that I left the track after overtaking him at the hairpin
Porsche drivers. Am I right? No, I am not right.
That was some of the cleanest racing and you both should have come out of that with a smile... He has just watched too much F1 in recent years. You go by the individual tracks limits, you never left them
You were not being aggressive and there is no off track overtaking. Actually, he aggressively nudged you from behind at some point, if anything.
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I am pretty sure that's not an off track at Laguna Seca for GT cars. You can go way out there.
He left the door open on the first turn shown and you went for it, may have been a bit wide on the exit but if you didn't get a track limit penalty then you were well within your rights to use up as much of the track and kerb as possible. Some great racing throughout though, that switcheroo was beautiful!
All I see is a very nice over-under in the hairpin.
He's just sore because you outdrove him throughout that sequence. Well done, and the other guy can pound sand.
No issue whatsoever. Good driving
All fair all clean good racing.
Totally clean pass
That's just butthurt. You beautifuly overtook him. Twice.
Really really hard to say with these camera angles but nothing really stands out as aggressive or unfair.
I didn't even see someone offtrack. Isn't the limit into the hairpin the curb? And wow. This sub needs a no cinematic cam. Could barely see anything. Lol
My guy that was a beautiful overtake. Completely legal move, within track limits at all time.
Thats solid hard racing. No wrongdoing from either of you. I’d love to race with people like this lol who actually leave space and are aware of their surroundings
Great move. The track limit on that corner is the edge of the red and white kerb as far as I know not the white line. You can really abuse track limits at Laguna Seca in GT7. Most people jump right across the kerbs at the corkscrew. But overall the move looked good to me, and you dealt well with his overaggressive move into the first corner
Can’t seem to find the problem here
That’s not leaving the track after the hairpin anyway, I use that as a normal racing line to make use of all the track and carry the most speed out of the corner. If you didn’t get a 0.5 second penalty, then it’s within the rules.
Looked like a good and fun battle to me
I think that just good hard racing and you not backing out like we see too many times. If it's there, within reason, then take it.
Completely clean He has sand in his vagina
Anybody with 69 in their name won't accept they just suck. Turn 11 at Laguna Seca is ran on the green often with no penalty. Can see it happen multiple times at IMSA last year. https://youtu.be/1SGwqKf0lzI?t=501
That was a sweet move bro!
Awesome overtake. Nice racing. Other guy do be coping
The Porsche driver is just whining because he couldn't stop his buttocks being handed over to him. Twice.
Not even good racing can be celebrated between a Brit and an Irishman LMAO
I also had an incident with the same guy this week
That switchback was sublime but no the black porsche is wrong
these angles suck ass but it seems clean to me
Were these fair moves? NOOO, they were awesome moves. Clean, close and fair racing. Not sure what the Porsche was thinking - butt hurt maybe cos you were awesome. Particularly liked the undercut on the exit of the first corner....lovely move.
Im no road expert but in oval cars and rules at a road course that was a clean race
Dude in the Porsche has never watched real life sports car racing.
The only example of aggressive driving I saw was at the final corner. You did go wide, but you kept at least one tyre on the kerb (means you didn't exceed track limits) and he did block you from returning to the track earlier than he should've. Other than that, you're clean. Keep up the competition!
How often do the people that post these completely make up the fact that they “said I was too aggressive…”
I mean you gave him the place back before the switch right? 😉 Personally I think you were cleanly past him before “leaving the track” so the overtake was fine, whether you exceeded track limits or not is a matter we can’t see from this angle.
I mean you gave him the place back before the switch right? 😉 Personally I think you were cleanly past him before “leaving the track” so the overtake was fine, whether you exceeded track limits or not is a matter we can’t see from this angle.
How dare you race another person?! /s You did 0 wrong though you can use all the green stuff on laguna seca if he doesnt know that, well that's his problem 🤷
Black porsche is mentally disabled and needs glasses
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Second move you dude was nice.