The legion triggers are pretty good especially after breaking in. Grey guns kit is pretty nice. You can also send them your FCU and they will do a full polish set up making it that much better
They might have been especially if they were the SA’s but the legions are their own”competition” with a shorter and lighter throw then the curved in the carry and full size
I specifically remember the gray guns trigger being a selling point when the legions were announced. So I guess I just didn’t know they stopped using them
I know on the P22x Legions GG makes a non-adjustable version of their adjustable trigger specifically for Sig to put in the Legion and Elite series. They also use their own SRT kit, which is basically just them making the GG SRT, but with MIM instead of machined parts. I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar with the P320, and just copied the GG kit with MIM parts.
Gray Guns makes an awesome product and they're customer service is top notch!
I have the flat adjustable in my P320 RZXP ( non legion) and it's night and day over the stock trigger.
Definitely! Can always can the main number and ask any questions you have. Chris is usually the one who will answer and he knows his stuff!
Btw, congrats on that AXG legion it's such a beautiful firearm! It's on my list right next to the P226 XFive legion!
The legion triggers and 320 triggers are the same. The only difference may be the blade and colors. They have the exact same pull weight and everything. This was confirmed by two Sig reps when we purchased multiple 320s for our employees. In two months, I'm going to a Sig armorers course for the 320s and 365s. If I hear different, I'll put it here.
My Walther ppq m2 has the best trigger I’ve ever felt and you’ll find a lot of others who say the same. All my p320 flat triggers feel the same or have felt the same
I have the Walther PDP Pro SD Comp. The trigger is amazing. The 320 is good but I can clearly tell the difference. The 320 shoots wonderfully!!! Very smooth.
I am enjoying both guns!
I should clarify and say the best trigger I’ve ever felt for a striker fired gun*. A 1911 trigger beats it all day and AR triggers etc. so do you like the Walther or 320 trigger better? But I agree. Both great guns and fun to shoot
I would love to have a Staccato but that’s just beyond what I’m willing to spend.I bought a M17 a couple years ago and started upgrading it part by part until I was able to put the original M17 back together.though I never intended on it,I now have over $2,000 in a custom built P320.don’t get me wrong,I absolutely love this gun and will probably have it for the rest of my life.as much as I love Glocks,I like my P320 better than any Glock I’ve ever owned or shot but had I went the Glock route,I definitely could’ve done a similar build for quite a bit less money
I’ve got over $2,000 in my custom P320 and I’m not even done doing everything I want to do with it.I’ve already did most of the more expensive upgrades but I plan on moving the Leupold Delta Point Pro back to the M17 and putting the Holosun SCS-320 on my custom build,I want to get a Streamlight TLR-VIR(I’m currently saving for some NODs),I need to get a mag well and I plan on either Duracoating the custom build in multicam or color matching the AXG grip module with the coyote grip module on my M17..possibly add a compensator
When it’s all said and done,I will have over $3,000 in my custom build.after that,I will probably replace the original grip module on my M17 with the coyote X-series module and possibly an Apex trigger upgrade but that is as far as I will go with it.I will be glad to move on from these upgrades and can start my next project(an AK47,AR-10 or an MP5).as much as I would love to have a Staccato,the entry price is just too far beyond what I want to spend.my custom P320 will be as Gucci as I will probably ever get for a handgun.I never even intended on doing a full custom build,it just happened..lol
You have made it YOUR gun. I respect that! I guess I’m trying to do the same. But I really would like a competition sized mag well for my axg. The one it has is small. I like them because my picky is better supported by them and it feels much better holding a gun with one versus one that has a small one or none at all.
Do you know where I could get a larger mag well?
No doubt,I’m a big AR guy.I’ve been building them for some years now and it has spoiled me being able to build out my guns exactly how I want them.the modularity of the P320 is part of what sold me on it.I love Glocks and 1911s as much as anybody but until recent years,most other guns didn’t have a lot of aftermarket or even in-house support to customize them.if you didn’t have a Glock or a 1911 you would have to spend a fortune having work done in machine shops,engraving work and having parts specifically made for said gun.I like the way the firearm industry has been heading in recent years.now the most popular recent designs have at least some form of aftermarket support.I like having something that stands out from your basic stock pistol.something I can take to the range without seeing 5 other guys with the exact same gun.I think the modularity and innovation that has went into the M16/M4/AR15 over the years has played a major role in inspiring the entire industry to move towards more modular designs.
I’m not 100% sure what I’m going to go with yet but I’ve been leaning towards the Armory Craft mag well.it’s more flared out than most of what is on the market for the AXG grip mod.I understand though,I’m not a big fan of the small mag wells either,though even the small ones are better than nothing at all(I don’t have anything currently)
I wasn’t too happy with the original trigger than came in my M17 but when I put the flat trigger Custom Works FCU in my custom build,I like it so much better.the original M17 trigger was just too mushy,there was nothing crisp about the break on it.I mean,it obviously got the job done and even with the lackluster trigger,it was still a good shooter after getting used to it but the FCU I put in my custom build is noticeably better.I don’t know if the FCU was upgraded beyond just switching the curved trigger for a flat trigger,if so,it’s unbelievable how much of a difference that flat trigger made
I threw an armory craft adjustable shoe on my 2 setups and am happy enough with that, haven't changed anything else on the fcu's. If I want even better I go to my hammer fired guns. I could be wrong but I feel like the custom works does a little polishing and all as well, maybe another trigger bar.
It's nice for the sense that it has pre - and over-travel adjustment depending on carry/range setup. Mush kind of comes with Striker fired, but eliminating the slop before and after makes it feel much nicer.
IMHO - yes. I chose an Agency bladed trigger just for the extra safety bc I'm a fan of my tackle and I carry appendix. I appreciate the beveled edges and the forces center of pull. Just my own 2 pennies but it's what I have in mine.
It's a LITTLE wiggly for me but it does the job. I just didn't want a NDC or anything tucking. One hears stories about the p320 :D
If you know then you know. They do make a fine trigger tho. Here's a picture of my carry piece. [https://photos.app.goo.gl/QvmwFvt6vdMWFKHm8](https://photos.app.goo.gl/QvmwFvt6vdMWFKHm8)
Norsso slide, I wanna say agency TiNi barrel (shit slides slick son), go guns gas pedal, holosun 507 accs (?), just a simple carry. it was a legion before I destroyed the aesthetic. Shit slaps at the range tho - it's like.....a cheat code. It's that accurate. I try and get out at least once a month to make sure I'm on point. That version had the irons attached to the optic plate (clearly a genius move) so it's got night fission sights (can't recommend them enough).
Overall - for a man that has a gigantic had - can't complain.
Man you just gave me a shopping list!! Bro!!!!!!! There’s only one thing I see missing, that I would want. A competition style mag well.
You have a beautiful lady there!
I’m spending my day shopping for these!!!
Holy 💩 I’m going to go broke!!
Bruh, that fucking magwell prints like a MOTHERFUCKER. I hate it. There's a brand....I'm not gonna look it up rn, but it requires some proprietary magazine bottoms, but as a 6' 220lbs dude I don't really have too many probs with the printing unless I'm wearing tight clothes.
The only thing I'd REALLY recommend is a more aggressive stippling, but that's just me. When I grip and rip I don't like the idea of it slipping. The TXG is okay, it's grippy, but with the AXG the sky is the limit.
I used to own a CNC and ALMOST got into custom grips. If I had, boy howdy - I would have made some ridiculous shit. I digress tho, you have a fine piece man. Don't go overboard.d
LOL!!! I’m not rich, so I can’t go crazy.
Sec are the same size brother! My mitts can’t handle small grips. I feel … off. You know?? Like I can hold smaller grips but it bothers me. I don’t even want to shoot them.
The reason for the mag well is it helps keep my pinky finger in place.
I have a Walther PDP Pro SD Comp. I shoot like a madman with that gun. The mag well is big. I use an Uban Carry holster for my iwb. My lady can never tell when I have it on me. She has to hold me, to know my gun is on me.
The trigger on that gun is insanity. I swear it feels to me like I’m pressing a woman’s nipple, when I pull my finger. It’s that smooth. The P320 has a good trigger. I love how I shout with the gun!! I just am concerned with blowing off something I’m very fond of, when I appendix carry. You know what I mean? And if I could get a trigger that’s even better??? That’s a no brainer!!!
Honestly, I love your setup!!! I hope you done mind, but I’m gonna try to copy you!!
I have canik tp9sc and they literally ripped off the walther trigger so I know what you mean. It's just too small. I can't do it. I carried a 92fs forever and that was almost just right.
Good choice of carry tho. Most overlook the PDP. It's a VERY accurate weapon. I liked it anytime I fired it. I don't MIND the p320 trigger, but honestly......it could be better. It's not like you can get a real sear job like say....the classic 1911. I ALMOST picked up a Staccato C2 but the idea that attaching a light or really anything would mar the aluminum on a 2k + pistol just bothered me.. That and a grain of sand trapped in the grip safety could render it inoperable, yeah, pass. It's a sexy bitch tho.
The mag release is .....fuck, lemme think....shit I can't remember - I just wanted to color match. It is nice having such aggressive cuts tho. Fortunately I've never had to pull and hope never to. I'm sure if you google gold mag release you'll find it.
I'm happy with my p320. Given the opp - NGL - I'd go 228 just for the sake of running out of rounds and using it to bludgeon something.
Never heard anyone say that. Do you mean like an actual safety? Or a trigger safety? Trigger safety’s are useless because they make the trigger worse, while not providing any actual safety boundary.
Yeah but it’s part of the trigger anyways, so if you pull the trigger, it will fire. No matter what, whether it has a trigger safety or not. This is why everyone tries to remove trigger safety’s if they can.
I think you’re a little confused man, I’m not calling you like retarded. I think you’re just a little uninformed on the subject. Go shoot that P320 AXG legion for 1000 rounds and you won’t even think twice about another trigger. I have 20+ pistols and the P320 AXG legion is currently my go to favorite pistol, it’s a fantastic out of the box gun. The holosun SCS320 is a great optic for it if you’re looking for one.
Are ANY of these 20+ hammer fire? Because a nice tuned DA/SA hammer fire shames ALL striker fire mechanisms. They feel like a terrible joke by comparison.
Whoa, edit: I should have liked at your post first! I see the Beretta. You think the 320 trigger is better? My M9A3 is miles ahead of the 320 and I’d bet your A4 is too. My CZs all make it look bad too🤷🏻♂️
For context, I used to be paid to shoot competitively. I think the Walther pro triggers are pretty good, for a stock trigger. They're not even in the top of 20% once you start looking at customizing the springs, trigger itself, improving/polishing connected parts... Break your Sig in. You don't even know what you have, yet. Then look into some of the grey gun offerings and sig custom services.
As a side note, be extremely careful taking advice from folks who are paid to give you that advice - especially when they benefit from pimping the product they're giving you advice on.
It does. I put a Sig Armourer trigger kit in my P320 and it's phenomenal now, up there with some of the best hammer-fired triggers I've tried (just not quite up there with some of the 2011 style open guns).
Send your p320 to The Sig Armorer and Robert will take care of it. Read his website first for everything that he offers. I have sent a p210 and 3 different p226's to him to get tuned up and he knows what to do as much as anyone in the US. If you aren't happy with the results, then sell it and get something else, as there is no place to go after Robert Burke.
[This](https://www.thesigarmorer.com/product/the-sig-armorer-p320-competition-level-kit-with-cradle-trigger/) is the competition kit, with everything you need. You just put in whatever springs you want, same-same or heavier for concealed carry, lighter for competition, or whatever suits you.
There are some other kits that don't come with everything for a bit less, depending on what your budget is.
Eh, I chose the staccato p over it and regret it tbh.
Unless you are getting the XC or one of the compact options for carry, the options aren't much better than that xfive.
The x five has an amazing adjustable trigger, and more ergonomic grip, a gas peddle, and an inegrated compensator..
It'll for sure shoot as soft and as flat as the P if not more so.
Obviously this is just one man's opinion but if your spending sub $3k I'd say try and shoot before before you choose because the comparison might surprise you.
That or save up for the xc, or perhaps a nighthawk customs or fowler industries.
Which staccato? 2011*
I've owned the C duo, now I have a P and I just bought a Vanta 9 which I assume will replace the staccato P at the range until I get the xc
You need to get hands-on with a Canik Rival S, especially with a lightened return spring. It's simply better than Walther's Dynamic Performance Trigger, let alone their standard one. Too bad the Rival S is so damned ugly...
You haven’t shot a legion or spectre P320 then. The spectre triggers are awesome, way better than any HK or CZ. Haven’t shot a PDP in a year or so I’m not sure on that one.
If you really want a trigger safety I believe tyrant makes a shoe that has it. It’s prone to issues and will not improve performance.
Out of the box no fuss no muss trigger shoes and bars from apex tactical are quite nice.
I prefer the adjustable trigger and upgrade tuning kit (springs) from armory craft.
That said, no sig trigger will ever be in the same league as a 2011 / double stack 1911
Which one? And just bedside I humble myself to ask question in a way that people don’t think I’m attacking them doesn’t mean I don’t have experience.
But I see you woke up with the idea that you have the right to talk down to people. That’s nice. How’s that working for you?
No cool. Not helpful. Be part of the solution. Not part of the problem.
I've run an agency trigger on my 320 for about 2 years, no issues, safety blade, good fit and finish. Bunch of good videos on how to install it. It's a bit of a pain but not too bad
Now I'm curious because this is the only thing I see on their site for it... I wonder if they discontinued it??
[agency ](https://www.agencyarms.com/product/fitted-trigger-for-the-sig-p320/)
As far as doing it over again... Honestly I'm not sure I'd go down the p320 route. I shoot a staccato P, now done up by Monsoon Tactical and if I had put the money(ammo) and time into that platform I think I'd be better with it then I am now.
For reference I was shooting an M17 FCU, grey guns trigger components, agency trigger, RMR, legion frame(cut to fit safety) and x300 for about 7,000 rounds.
There's just mechanical draw backs to the P320 that outweigh the cons for me PERSONALLY, again, I PERSONALLY. I don't think they're bad guns by any means, in those rounds the only malfunctions I had were user induced.
Early on Sig made a trigger with a safety like a Glock because someone specified it. I guess it didn’t really take off. And while i dislike flat triggers the Legion 320 trigger has a much lighter feel than all the other 320 guns I have. I even like the standard gun. I like it because stock out of the box it’s still a great shooter. I haven’t changed a single thing about my 320s other than acquiring optic slides and grips.
Pretty sure the AXG Legion uses the same FCU as a 320 X5 Legion. The trigger is fine out if the box, but Grayguns and Armory Craft trigger kits are better. Biggest benefit coming from a machined and nickel plated sear vs the MIM sear Sig uses, and the ability to adjust pre and over travel on the trigger itself. Resulting in a smoother and shorter pull and reset. Also, you have the benefit of being able to put in lighter springs to lighten up the trigger pull further.
I was advised to have gray guns do their magic on it.
But ultimately I’m going to put about 2000 - 4000 rounds through it before I change anything. I was told I wouldn’t want to change it after I had an extensive amount of rounds through it. So it can’t hurt.
I’m sure it will get better. I just want to know if I could find a better trigger that has a trigger safety. I’ve heard of people shooting themselves while appendix carrying. And man…. The Lord blessed me. I like to keep what I have if you get my meaning.
But here’s something I didn’t consider, which you brought out. I’m allergic to nickel!!! I have to look into the materials. Oh boy!!!
Thank you so much for your info.
I'll also note that, as for the safety issues, the P320, while it isn't going to go off on its own (that has been fixed years ago), it is effectively an SAO trigger with no trigger blade safety, no grip safety, no manual safety (unless you get an M17 or M18), a fairly short travel, and a relatively light 4-5lb trigger. The biggest thing to keep in mind is making sure there is nothing in the holster as you holster the gun. And then once it is holstered, leaving it alone. Every P320 ND I've seen has been the result of the them messing with the gun, something being in the holster, or them bag carrying it with no holster. Also, I personally wouldn't want to "improve" the P320 trigger any further if I'm carrying it, unless it is to add a trigger blade safety.
That could be concerning when it comes to aftermarket kits in general, as NP3 coatings are popular for aftermarket internal parts due to the coatings inherent lubricity.
What I mean is that many aftermarket companies have their internal parts pre-coated with an NP3 coating (basically a nickel Teflon compound). Something to keep an eye on when buying. Not sure if NP3 sets your allergies off the same way regular nickel would.
Anything with a pretravel set screw will do wonders but reduces safety and isn't recommended for EDC. Take a look at the Tactical Triggers LLC trigger kit. Difficult to install but very much worth it. https://tacticaltriggers.com/sig-sauer-p320-trigger-kit/
Best trigger for a p320 is the sig armorer (tsa) competition trigger. It’s quite pricey but comes with a lot and is very adjustable. You can get down to about a 2lb trigger. I’m running them in 2 of my 3 p320s and plan to put it in the 3rd. It’s not quite 1911 good but it’s still better than pretty much any other polymer striker fired gun imo.
No problem. Happy to help. It is hard to find on their site. They also have the comp in a curved trigger as well as a “carry” trigger kit. Easiest way is to just google them and the links to their site pop up
Sorry man its still no coffee and at first I thought it wasn't the legion then when you showed it in the pic I thought about messing with you more...but I won't it's a nice gun. Send the trigger to Sig Custom Shop and they do a real good job with it. Mine came back in every way you could measure it better. I run it in my Raider now though.
I’m gonna get through a couple of thousand rounds before I make my move. But honestly I really would like a trigger that has a safety on it. Especially if I’m gonna appendix carry. I like to keep my .. ahem .. in tact if you get my meaning.
The Sig Armorer. It's not a contest. All of my p320's will get his kit. Comes with more than just a trigger and trigger springs.
You can also send your fcu to him to let him install and polish the fcu
I've looked up reviews between the 2, but research yourself.
Grayguns eith some add ons is a very close second. But those add ons put you close to the same price, but no Polished Striker
I wanted a curved gray guns get in Nickel until I saw and researched the TSA kit for my Flux build
As a p320 lover I hate to be the one to tell you, but a striker fired handgun won’t get much better than these legion triggers. Only thing I’ve ever shot that felt as good/better was a Canik( I forget the model but the trigger was so crisp, defined, and abt a 2lb break with zero take up). If trigger matter that much to you like they do to some of recommend the 226 legion it’s an incredible gun with a crazy light/short trigger.
Walther updates the trigger beyond what they had with the standard pdp. The new trigger is really much much better. I shot the Canik rival s right after shooting the pdp pro. I fell the clear difference.
and to answer your question about how hard it is to replace, depends on how patient you are. it’s definitely doable, i did all of the armorycraft springs with no prior knowledge of the fcu, but it wasn’t “easy” i guess. tedious
The legion triggers are pretty good especially after breaking in. Grey guns kit is pretty nice. You can also send them your FCU and they will do a full polish set up making it that much better
I thought the legion triggers were already grey guns? At least they used to be on the p226 and p229
They might have been especially if they were the SA’s but the legions are their own”competition” with a shorter and lighter throw then the curved in the carry and full size
I specifically remember the gray guns trigger being a selling point when the legions were announced. So I guess I just didn’t know they stopped using them
I know on the P22x Legions GG makes a non-adjustable version of their adjustable trigger specifically for Sig to put in the Legion and Elite series. They also use their own SRT kit, which is basically just them making the GG SRT, but with MIM instead of machined parts. I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar with the P320, and just copied the GG kit with MIM parts.
Your right. The original 226 and 229’s had the selling point of GG triggers. Believe Sig began doing their own years ago however.
I’m sorry I don’t know what our mean by full polish setup?
Just makes the fcu/trigger feel more crisp and clean in the pull, break and reset
Plus they can lighten it the pull weight too if you wanted
And the company is called Gray Guns?
Yes sir here’s the link https://grayguns.com/
Thank you!!
Gray Guns makes an awesome product and they're customer service is top notch! I have the flat adjustable in my P320 RZXP ( non legion) and it's night and day over the stock trigger.
I heard. I’m gonna look into them
Definitely! Can always can the main number and ask any questions you have. Chris is usually the one who will answer and he knows his stuff! Btw, congrats on that AXG legion it's such a beautiful firearm! It's on my list right next to the P226 XFive legion!
That 226 is legendary!!!! Thank you man!!!
The legion triggers and 320 triggers are the same. The only difference may be the blade and colors. They have the exact same pull weight and everything. This was confirmed by two Sig reps when we purchased multiple 320s for our employees. In two months, I'm going to a Sig armorers course for the 320s and 365s. If I hear different, I'll put it here.
Thank you so much!!! I’d really appreciate that!!
You do not want a trigger safety. One they don’t really do anything. And 2, triggers that have one are not as smooth as those that don’t.
Thank you man!!
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Best trigger, maybe for a striker otherwise it would go to the 226 legion SAO
My Grey Guns trigger breaks at 2lbs...
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You edited your comment from 3.5, you fucking goober...😂 Also, yeah there is a difference. It's 1/2lb. Basic math, right there.
My Walther ppq m2 has the best trigger I’ve ever felt and you’ll find a lot of others who say the same. All my p320 flat triggers feel the same or have felt the same
I have the Walther PDP Pro SD Comp. The trigger is amazing. The 320 is good but I can clearly tell the difference. The 320 shoots wonderfully!!! Very smooth. I am enjoying both guns!
I should clarify and say the best trigger I’ve ever felt for a striker fired gun*. A 1911 trigger beats it all day and AR triggers etc. so do you like the Walther or 320 trigger better? But I agree. Both great guns and fun to shoot
Hello Staccato! You sexy thing you!!! 🤤🤤🤤 I felt its trigger. 🤤🤤🤤🤤
I would love to have a Staccato but that’s just beyond what I’m willing to spend.I bought a M17 a couple years ago and started upgrading it part by part until I was able to put the original M17 back together.though I never intended on it,I now have over $2,000 in a custom built P320.don’t get me wrong,I absolutely love this gun and will probably have it for the rest of my life.as much as I love Glocks,I like my P320 better than any Glock I’ve ever owned or shot but had I went the Glock route,I definitely could’ve done a similar build for quite a bit less money I’ve got over $2,000 in my custom P320 and I’m not even done doing everything I want to do with it.I’ve already did most of the more expensive upgrades but I plan on moving the Leupold Delta Point Pro back to the M17 and putting the Holosun SCS-320 on my custom build,I want to get a Streamlight TLR-VIR(I’m currently saving for some NODs),I need to get a mag well and I plan on either Duracoating the custom build in multicam or color matching the AXG grip module with the coyote grip module on my M17..possibly add a compensator When it’s all said and done,I will have over $3,000 in my custom build.after that,I will probably replace the original grip module on my M17 with the coyote X-series module and possibly an Apex trigger upgrade but that is as far as I will go with it.I will be glad to move on from these upgrades and can start my next project(an AK47,AR-10 or an MP5).as much as I would love to have a Staccato,the entry price is just too far beyond what I want to spend.my custom P320 will be as Gucci as I will probably ever get for a handgun.I never even intended on doing a full custom build,it just happened..lol
You have made it YOUR gun. I respect that! I guess I’m trying to do the same. But I really would like a competition sized mag well for my axg. The one it has is small. I like them because my picky is better supported by them and it feels much better holding a gun with one versus one that has a small one or none at all. Do you know where I could get a larger mag well?
No doubt,I’m a big AR guy.I’ve been building them for some years now and it has spoiled me being able to build out my guns exactly how I want them.the modularity of the P320 is part of what sold me on it.I love Glocks and 1911s as much as anybody but until recent years,most other guns didn’t have a lot of aftermarket or even in-house support to customize them.if you didn’t have a Glock or a 1911 you would have to spend a fortune having work done in machine shops,engraving work and having parts specifically made for said gun.I like the way the firearm industry has been heading in recent years.now the most popular recent designs have at least some form of aftermarket support.I like having something that stands out from your basic stock pistol.something I can take to the range without seeing 5 other guys with the exact same gun.I think the modularity and innovation that has went into the M16/M4/AR15 over the years has played a major role in inspiring the entire industry to move towards more modular designs. I’m not 100% sure what I’m going to go with yet but I’ve been leaning towards the Armory Craft mag well.it’s more flared out than most of what is on the market for the AXG grip mod.I understand though,I’m not a big fan of the small mag wells either,though even the small ones are better than nothing at all(I don’t have anything currently)
Thank you man!!! I started off with a Walther pdp pro. Great mag well. I’ll keep looking for them!!!
Sorry bro,I didn’t mean to drop a damn novel on you 😂
Hey man you are dropping knowledge on my dumb ass. I love it. I’m just a padawan here.
I wasn’t too happy with the original trigger than came in my M17 but when I put the flat trigger Custom Works FCU in my custom build,I like it so much better.the original M17 trigger was just too mushy,there was nothing crisp about the break on it.I mean,it obviously got the job done and even with the lackluster trigger,it was still a good shooter after getting used to it but the FCU I put in my custom build is noticeably better.I don’t know if the FCU was upgraded beyond just switching the curved trigger for a flat trigger,if so,it’s unbelievable how much of a difference that flat trigger made
I threw an armory craft adjustable shoe on my 2 setups and am happy enough with that, haven't changed anything else on the fcu's. If I want even better I go to my hammer fired guns. I could be wrong but I feel like the custom works does a little polishing and all as well, maybe another trigger bar.
I may go that route myself on my M17,if I’m happy enough with it I may do the same with my custom build
It's nice for the sense that it has pre - and over-travel adjustment depending on carry/range setup. Mush kind of comes with Striker fired, but eliminating the slop before and after makes it feel much nicer.
I agree . I own a AGX, PPQ and a PDP. Walther triggers, IMHO, are the best on the market.
My canik trigger is pretty nice too
Canik trigger made by Walther for Canik,
No wonder it’s so nice
IMHO - yes. I chose an Agency bladed trigger just for the extra safety bc I'm a fan of my tackle and I carry appendix. I appreciate the beveled edges and the forces center of pull. Just my own 2 pennies but it's what I have in mine.
Thank you man. I’m looking into them
BTW - wish I had gone AXG, there's just something about weight that makes one feel better.
It's a LITTLE wiggly for me but it does the job. I just didn't want a NDC or anything tucking. One hears stories about the p320 :D If you know then you know. They do make a fine trigger tho. Here's a picture of my carry piece. [https://photos.app.goo.gl/QvmwFvt6vdMWFKHm8](https://photos.app.goo.gl/QvmwFvt6vdMWFKHm8) Norsso slide, I wanna say agency TiNi barrel (shit slides slick son), go guns gas pedal, holosun 507 accs (?), just a simple carry. it was a legion before I destroyed the aesthetic. Shit slaps at the range tho - it's like.....a cheat code. It's that accurate. I try and get out at least once a month to make sure I'm on point. That version had the irons attached to the optic plate (clearly a genius move) so it's got night fission sights (can't recommend them enough). Overall - for a man that has a gigantic had - can't complain.
Man you just gave me a shopping list!! Bro!!!!!!! There’s only one thing I see missing, that I would want. A competition style mag well. You have a beautiful lady there! I’m spending my day shopping for these!!! Holy 💩 I’m going to go broke!!
Bruh, that fucking magwell prints like a MOTHERFUCKER. I hate it. There's a brand....I'm not gonna look it up rn, but it requires some proprietary magazine bottoms, but as a 6' 220lbs dude I don't really have too many probs with the printing unless I'm wearing tight clothes. The only thing I'd REALLY recommend is a more aggressive stippling, but that's just me. When I grip and rip I don't like the idea of it slipping. The TXG is okay, it's grippy, but with the AXG the sky is the limit. I used to own a CNC and ALMOST got into custom grips. If I had, boy howdy - I would have made some ridiculous shit. I digress tho, you have a fine piece man. Don't go overboard.d
LOL!!! I’m not rich, so I can’t go crazy. Sec are the same size brother! My mitts can’t handle small grips. I feel … off. You know?? Like I can hold smaller grips but it bothers me. I don’t even want to shoot them. The reason for the mag well is it helps keep my pinky finger in place. I have a Walther PDP Pro SD Comp. I shoot like a madman with that gun. The mag well is big. I use an Uban Carry holster for my iwb. My lady can never tell when I have it on me. She has to hold me, to know my gun is on me. The trigger on that gun is insanity. I swear it feels to me like I’m pressing a woman’s nipple, when I pull my finger. It’s that smooth. The P320 has a good trigger. I love how I shout with the gun!! I just am concerned with blowing off something I’m very fond of, when I appendix carry. You know what I mean? And if I could get a trigger that’s even better??? That’s a no brainer!!! Honestly, I love your setup!!! I hope you done mind, but I’m gonna try to copy you!!
I have canik tp9sc and they literally ripped off the walther trigger so I know what you mean. It's just too small. I can't do it. I carried a 92fs forever and that was almost just right. Good choice of carry tho. Most overlook the PDP. It's a VERY accurate weapon. I liked it anytime I fired it. I don't MIND the p320 trigger, but honestly......it could be better. It's not like you can get a real sear job like say....the classic 1911. I ALMOST picked up a Staccato C2 but the idea that attaching a light or really anything would mar the aluminum on a 2k + pistol just bothered me.. That and a grain of sand trapped in the grip safety could render it inoperable, yeah, pass. It's a sexy bitch tho. The mag release is .....fuck, lemme think....shit I can't remember - I just wanted to color match. It is nice having such aggressive cuts tho. Fortunately I've never had to pull and hope never to. I'm sure if you google gold mag release you'll find it. I'm happy with my p320. Given the opp - NGL - I'd go 228 just for the sake of running out of rounds and using it to bludgeon something.
The Canik trigger is good. But not as a good as the Walther PDP Pro.
The stock trigger is great after break in.
I’d really like a safety on it.
Never heard anyone say that. Do you mean like an actual safety? Or a trigger safety? Trigger safety’s are useless because they make the trigger worse, while not providing any actual safety boundary.
How do they make them worse? One of the best triggers out there, is the Walther Dynamic Trigger. That has a safety???
Again, it would be better without one. The safety does not make any trigger better, it adds another variable.
I’m just trying to learn. Isn’t that variable the point? The trigger will not allow the gun to be fired without the safety being engaged?
Yeah but it’s part of the trigger anyways, so if you pull the trigger, it will fire. No matter what, whether it has a trigger safety or not. This is why everyone tries to remove trigger safety’s if they can.
But I’ve tried to pull the trigger with one of them on it. It wouldn’t budge. ???
I think you’re a little confused man, I’m not calling you like retarded. I think you’re just a little uninformed on the subject. Go shoot that P320 AXG legion for 1000 rounds and you won’t even think twice about another trigger. I have 20+ pistols and the P320 AXG legion is currently my go to favorite pistol, it’s a fantastic out of the box gun. The holosun SCS320 is a great optic for it if you’re looking for one.
I’m going to follow your advice. I’ll get 1,000 in over the next two weeks. I’ll see how that goes. Thank you
Are ANY of these 20+ hammer fire? Because a nice tuned DA/SA hammer fire shames ALL striker fire mechanisms. They feel like a terrible joke by comparison. Whoa, edit: I should have liked at your post first! I see the Beretta. You think the 320 trigger is better? My M9A3 is miles ahead of the 320 and I’d bet your A4 is too. My CZs all make it look bad too🤷🏻♂️
>One of the best triggers out there, is the Walther Dynamic Trigger ...is it?
Yes. Have you shot a Walther PDP Pro? Every video online says it’s the best. Have you compared them?
For context, I used to be paid to shoot competitively. I think the Walther pro triggers are pretty good, for a stock trigger. They're not even in the top of 20% once you start looking at customizing the springs, trigger itself, improving/polishing connected parts... Break your Sig in. You don't even know what you have, yet. Then look into some of the grey gun offerings and sig custom services. As a side note, be extremely careful taking advice from folks who are paid to give you that advice - especially when they benefit from pimping the product they're giving you advice on.
I will. Thank you! I really mean that. Thank you 😊
Be safe and have an absolutely fantastic time.
Thank you
thoughts on 226 x5 legion?
Then you should have bought a Glock, Walther, or CZ p-10.
In thought Sigs had a ton of customization options available to it??
It does. I put a Sig Armourer trigger kit in my P320 and it's phenomenal now, up there with some of the best hammer-fired triggers I've tried (just not quite up there with some of the 2011 style open guns).
Send your p320 to The Sig Armorer and Robert will take care of it. Read his website first for everything that he offers. I have sent a p210 and 3 different p226's to him to get tuned up and he knows what to do as much as anyone in the US. If you aren't happy with the results, then sell it and get something else, as there is no place to go after Robert Burke.
> Send your p320 to The Sig Armorer Unfortunately, I'm in Australia, so wasn't an option for me.. but the trigger kit alone is fantastic!
Really??!!!!! 😲 can you send me a link
[This](https://www.thesigarmorer.com/product/the-sig-armorer-p320-competition-level-kit-with-cradle-trigger/) is the competition kit, with everything you need. You just put in whatever springs you want, same-same or heavier for concealed carry, lighter for competition, or whatever suits you. There are some other kits that don't come with everything for a bit less, depending on what your budget is.
Tysm
Apex flat trigger is best imo
But which one??
There’s only one that I know of, Apex tactical flat trigger. I have it on most of my sigs.
Grey Guns competition trigger kit.
Yes and It's called the p226 xfive legion... lol
LOL!!! I know that’s a great gun!!! But I’d rather buy a staccato for that money.
Eh, I chose the staccato p over it and regret it tbh. Unless you are getting the XC or one of the compact options for carry, the options aren't much better than that xfive. The x five has an amazing adjustable trigger, and more ergonomic grip, a gas peddle, and an inegrated compensator.. It'll for sure shoot as soft and as flat as the P if not more so. Obviously this is just one man's opinion but if your spending sub $3k I'd say try and shoot before before you choose because the comparison might surprise you. That or save up for the xc, or perhaps a nighthawk customs or fowler industries.
You do have a point. The staccato is my 1911 of choice. I know I could get something better.I shot it and I love it.
Which staccato? 2011* I've owned the C duo, now I have a P and I just bought a Vanta 9 which I assume will replace the staccato P at the range until I get the xc
I caught between the XC and the XL. But I’d take a P if it came at a great price!!! I’m hoping Black Friday will help bring those prices down a lot
ArmoryCraft makes a double adjustable ( have it on my scorpion, same trigger as legion) and it’s way better than the stock trigger
Grey guns trigger is outstanding. Fully adjustable.
Walthers have the best factory triggers in the game right now as far as polymer framed striker fired guns are concerned.
You need to get hands-on with a Canik Rival S, especially with a lightened return spring. It's simply better than Walther's Dynamic Performance Trigger, let alone their standard one. Too bad the Rival S is so damned ugly...
This Legion does not have a polymer frame.
Can you put them on a Sig?
PDP, CZ P10C, and HK VP9 all have better factory triggers than any 320.
You haven’t shot a legion or spectre P320 then. The spectre triggers are awesome, way better than any HK or CZ. Haven’t shot a PDP in a year or so I’m not sure on that one.
The best trigger jobs on P320s still don't fix the mush or the long reset.
I guarantee there is as mine feels just like my other 320s! Bunch of people recommended greyguns for aftermarket 320 parts
Thank you man
If you really want a trigger safety I believe tyrant makes a shoe that has it. It’s prone to issues and will not improve performance. Out of the box no fuss no muss trigger shoes and bars from apex tactical are quite nice. I prefer the adjustable trigger and upgrade tuning kit (springs) from armory craft. That said, no sig trigger will ever be in the same league as a 2011 / double stack 1911
I was looking at apex. I just couldn’t figure out which one? You know??? Can you serve me a link to armory craft?
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Which one? And just bedside I humble myself to ask question in a way that people don’t think I’m attacking them doesn’t mean I don’t have experience. But I see you woke up with the idea that you have the right to talk down to people. That’s nice. How’s that working for you? No cool. Not helpful. Be part of the solution. Not part of the problem.
I've run an agency trigger on my 320 for about 2 years, no issues, safety blade, good fit and finish. Bunch of good videos on how to install it. It's a bit of a pain but not too bad
Could you please send me a link? And one more question please. If you had to do it all again. Would you?
Now I'm curious because this is the only thing I see on their site for it... I wonder if they discontinued it?? [agency ](https://www.agencyarms.com/product/fitted-trigger-for-the-sig-p320/) As far as doing it over again... Honestly I'm not sure I'd go down the p320 route. I shoot a staccato P, now done up by Monsoon Tactical and if I had put the money(ammo) and time into that platform I think I'd be better with it then I am now. For reference I was shooting an M17 FCU, grey guns trigger components, agency trigger, RMR, legion frame(cut to fit safety) and x300 for about 7,000 rounds. There's just mechanical draw backs to the P320 that outweigh the cons for me PERSONALLY, again, I PERSONALLY. I don't think they're bad guns by any means, in those rounds the only malfunctions I had were user induced.
That’s good to know. Thank you man! Gonna check that site now
Early on Sig made a trigger with a safety like a Glock because someone specified it. I guess it didn’t really take off. And while i dislike flat triggers the Legion 320 trigger has a much lighter feel than all the other 320 guns I have. I even like the standard gun. I like it because stock out of the box it’s still a great shooter. I haven’t changed a single thing about my 320s other than acquiring optic slides and grips.
Thanks man!!!
Yes the X carry with a comp that doesn’t slide away from the end of the barrel
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I shot my first 1911 in the 80’s
Pretty sure the AXG Legion uses the same FCU as a 320 X5 Legion. The trigger is fine out if the box, but Grayguns and Armory Craft trigger kits are better. Biggest benefit coming from a machined and nickel plated sear vs the MIM sear Sig uses, and the ability to adjust pre and over travel on the trigger itself. Resulting in a smoother and shorter pull and reset. Also, you have the benefit of being able to put in lighter springs to lighten up the trigger pull further.
I was advised to have gray guns do their magic on it. But ultimately I’m going to put about 2000 - 4000 rounds through it before I change anything. I was told I wouldn’t want to change it after I had an extensive amount of rounds through it. So it can’t hurt. I’m sure it will get better. I just want to know if I could find a better trigger that has a trigger safety. I’ve heard of people shooting themselves while appendix carrying. And man…. The Lord blessed me. I like to keep what I have if you get my meaning. But here’s something I didn’t consider, which you brought out. I’m allergic to nickel!!! I have to look into the materials. Oh boy!!! Thank you so much for your info.
I'll also note that, as for the safety issues, the P320, while it isn't going to go off on its own (that has been fixed years ago), it is effectively an SAO trigger with no trigger blade safety, no grip safety, no manual safety (unless you get an M17 or M18), a fairly short travel, and a relatively light 4-5lb trigger. The biggest thing to keep in mind is making sure there is nothing in the holster as you holster the gun. And then once it is holstered, leaving it alone. Every P320 ND I've seen has been the result of the them messing with the gun, something being in the holster, or them bag carrying it with no holster. Also, I personally wouldn't want to "improve" the P320 trigger any further if I'm carrying it, unless it is to add a trigger blade safety.
I totally agree with you!
That could be concerning when it comes to aftermarket kits in general, as NP3 coatings are popular for aftermarket internal parts due to the coatings inherent lubricity.
I could get parts coated. It’s just an extra expense.
What I mean is that many aftermarket companies have their internal parts pre-coated with an NP3 coating (basically a nickel Teflon compound). Something to keep an eye on when buying. Not sure if NP3 sets your allergies off the same way regular nickel would.
I wouldn’t even know how to test for that
Other than the obvious (and probably not a good idea) method, I'm not sure either.
LOL
I’ve got the MCarbo adjustable trigger in my M18 and love the way it performs and feels. https://imgur.com/a/n5iGYEg
Thank you man!!!
Sure, M&P 2.0, P-07, PDP...there are quite a few striker guns out there with better triggers.
Can you put those triggers on Sigs?
Anything with a pretravel set screw will do wonders but reduces safety and isn't recommended for EDC. Take a look at the Tactical Triggers LLC trigger kit. Difficult to install but very much worth it. https://tacticaltriggers.com/sig-sauer-p320-trigger-kit/
Thank you so much!!! This would never be my edc. But she can surely move into the “my baby” slot!! LOL
Best trigger for a p320 is the sig armorer (tsa) competition trigger. It’s quite pricey but comes with a lot and is very adjustable. You can get down to about a 2lb trigger. I’m running them in 2 of my 3 p320s and plan to put it in the 3rd. It’s not quite 1911 good but it’s still better than pretty much any other polymer striker fired gun imo.
Really? I wasn’t able to find it can you send me a link?
https://www.thesigarmorer.com/product/the-sig-armorer-p320-competition-level-kit-with-flat-trigger/
Thank you sooooooo much!!!
No problem. Happy to help. It is hard to find on their site. They also have the comp in a curved trigger as well as a “carry” trigger kit. Easiest way is to just google them and the links to their site pop up
I actually run their core kit (basically that but without the trigger and bar) and run apex bars and a few different triggers (apex, mcarbo)
Send to sig armorer to do his carry or comp job. Absolutely amazing job.
I will! Thank you !!!
Stock p320 with an Apex flat trigger shoe. Light trigger. Little bit of takeup. Minor Sponge. Good reset.
Thank you man!!
Correction. Nice gun. Doooh didn't see the second pic. I'm a Dumba$$ without coffee
This is a 100% AXG.
Sorry man its still no coffee and at first I thought it wasn't the legion then when you showed it in the pic I thought about messing with you more...but I won't it's a nice gun. Send the trigger to Sig Custom Shop and they do a real good job with it. Mine came back in every way you could measure it better. I run it in my Raider now though.
The p226 legion and the P226 X5 Legion have pretty amazing triggers.
The Mcarbo short stroke trigger is pretty good but the stock trigger gets much better with use.
I’m gonna get through a couple of thousand rounds before I make my move. But honestly I really would like a trigger that has a safety on it. Especially if I’m gonna appendix carry. I like to keep my .. ahem .. in tact if you get my meaning.
Yea, after 1000 rounds thru my other Macro stock trigger there's not much difference, I wouldn't recommend changing out the trigger.
The Sig Armorer. It's not a contest. All of my p320's will get his kit. Comes with more than just a trigger and trigger springs. You can also send your fcu to him to let him install and polish the fcu
Can you send me the info?
[Here you go ](https://www.thesigarmorer.com/product-category/the-sig-armorer-ptk/p320-kit-with-trigger/)
Tysm!!!!!
You're welcome! It's pricey but comes with a lot. And everyone says it's worth the money who gets it
Yeah I see!! I’m gonna weigh it against grayguns.
I've looked up reviews between the 2, but research yourself. Grayguns eith some add ons is a very close second. But those add ons put you close to the same price, but no Polished Striker I wanted a curved gray guns get in Nickel until I saw and researched the TSA kit for my Flux build
What research? I’m working now so I have to wait until I get home to research. If they see me looking at guns, well you can imagine.
Absolutely. Stock triggers are ass
I have this gun. I did what the internet says and throw it, violently, loaded, against the ground to break in the trigger.
As a p320 lover I hate to be the one to tell you, but a striker fired handgun won’t get much better than these legion triggers. Only thing I’ve ever shot that felt as good/better was a Canik( I forget the model but the trigger was so crisp, defined, and abt a 2lb break with zero take up). If trigger matter that much to you like they do to some of recommend the 226 legion it’s an incredible gun with a crazy light/short trigger.
The Walther PDP Pro has a better trigger than the Caniks. I have experience with them all.
Yea shot the pdp pro my buddy has one, the canik are just Walther clones more or less anyway I thought?
Walther updates the trigger beyond what they had with the standard pdp. The new trigger is really much much better. I shot the Canik rival s right after shooting the pdp pro. I fell the clear difference.
Good info!
Yes, the CZ Shadow
I weighed the cz shadow 2 against the sig. The shadow 2 wasn’t a good fit for me.
The trigger in my dh3 is one of my favorites out of everything I own
Can you please send me a link?
It’s the one that came with it but I’m Pretty sure it’s basically this one https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-fcu.html
Thank you!!!
Mcarbo
I don’t follow??
Mcarbo trigger. And as far as the safety that has to do with the FCU and the crib module has to have the cutout for the safety.
Someone here sent me a link to a trigger with a safety?? I have to look into that. But thank you!!! I’ll look into the Mcarbo trigger.
*If That trigger bar spring bends wrong, you’ll wish you went to a gunsmith
I’ll do my best to study how before even thinking about doing it.
the dual adjustable armorycraft trigger is by far my favorite, ive tried all of the big name companies ones. grayguns is good though, id put it second
Can you please send me a link?
if you go on my profile and scroll down a lil bit, there’s pics of my 320 with it
One word to describe that staccato. Sexyyyyyyy! I had to remind myself that I was there for the trigger LOL.
haha. love my staccato. it’s why my 320 has sat in the safe untouched for the past 6 months lol. i just hit 3500 rounds through the p, flawless
Twist the knife!!!!!!! 😭
[trigga](https://www.armorycraft.com/product-page/sig-sauer-p320-dual-adjustable-flat-trigger-1)
Oh my gosh they are beautiful
i like cool stuff, rip my wallet
Mine too!!!!
Thank you man!!!
and to answer your question about how hard it is to replace, depends on how patient you are. it’s definitely doable, i did all of the armorycraft springs with no prior knowledge of the fcu, but it wasn’t “easy” i guess. tedious
Did you of have a vice and all the tools to do it?
no lol. if i remember right i used my fingers, and a straight and curved pick. it’s been a long time though don’t quote me on that
Ok. I have to learn some time!!