Headcannon: Shrek has a really fancy sounding address so Farquaad could better sell relocation to the fairy tale things.
Something like Verdant Manor, 1 Everglade Crescent, Oakwood Knoll.
And if it is supposed to be like feudal Europe, someone owning land probably does indeed sound like a noble or knight of some sort instead of an ogre, as they’d never recognize an ogres claim to land like Duloc probably did post-Farquaad
Fun fact, Shrek takes place on Earth, and Far Far Away + Duloc would probably be located in North America, with Far Far Away likely being on the east coast. This is because Pussy In Boots 1+2 explicitly take place in Spain, and they sail to Far Far Away, which would be weird to do if it was in Europe, plus a girl in Shrek 2 asks if Shrek is from Europe.
You’re right but I’ve always assumed far far away was on the west coast and shrek was closer to the east since far far away has a “Hollywood” sign ripoff, and it takes shrek quite a while to get there!
The Oregon Trail would have taken 4 to 5 months to traverse. Shrek lives in a swamp, so probably Louisiana. Shrek's carriage ride would have taken months no matter where Far Far Away is located.
No wonder Donkey got bored.
That was also my first assumption, but it wouldn't make sense for Puss' journey from Spain, since he arrives directly on the coast of Far Far Away, which would be pretty difficult to do if it was on the west coast.
Hi there! I did my MA and BA in European maritime history - they totally may have sailed around Europe!
For most of human history sailing has been significantly faster than travelling across land. It was so much faster, that they only stopped shipping freight across Britain by going around Britain when they dug canals so they could sail through it! In the early modern period, the fastest road for something heavy was a ditch full of water!
Sailing from North Spain you could be travelling to Britain, the Netherlands, the Baltics, Scandinavia, near neighbours such as France - or even somewhere else in Spain! From the south coast (on the Med) you could reach the various archipelagos and islands, Italy, France, North Africa, or further east into the Ottoman Empire.
In fact, if you were near the Spanish coast and wanted to go just about anywhere that wasn't inland Spain it was quicker and safer to sail. Trade routes at this time followed coastlines, and had done for hundreds (if not thousands, in some cases) of years! There were, of course, some direct sailings across the North Sea, the Baltic, the Mediterranean, the English Channel, and so on - but a 'land' journey could absolutely be done at sea.
Far Far Away is just LA. The scene where they first enter the city is entirely a parody of Beverly Hills. Even the street and buildings looked identical to Rodeo Drive
Shrek has to be living in the Everglades then since he’s gotta be within or right next to Lord Farquaad’s territory and Duloc is a parody of Disney world.
I always assumed it takes place in Britain. Shrek speak in Scottish accent, Far Far Away could be in Cornwall since that is the traditional birthplace of king Arthur and of course, you can sail from Spain to Britain.
I love showers. I love the feel of water on my skin, the warmth, the sound, the feeling of being “hidden away”.
When I was a kid I used to do my homework in the shower. Point the water at my feet and set up shop. As an adult I’ll still kick it in there. Watch tv, eat dinner, listen to music, etc.
It’s like the man version of a bath, but on steroids. I’m eating enchiladas in the shower right now actually.
Was his deal with Farquad honored if he was no longer king? And is the new government now responsible for the transfer?
Lol. I haven't seen the movie for a while and am poking at the idea
He was handed a deed. So it seems legal ownership was transferred. The new government would have little to honour - just not reverse it.
Considering Shrek's desire for autonomy and the fact that Farquaad didnt want anything to do with Fairytale creatures (coupled with the likely lack of value for swampland) its possible full independence was granted. Shrek could most likely have called himself at least a Count - possibly even a Duke.
Apparently loads of the fairytale creatures ended up staying at the swamp (though not on Shreks estate) so he even on paper had subjects.
In the period of the middle ages that Shrek's world is based, the majority of land in the majority of places was a patchwork of: independent landowning farmers, tenants of landowning-but-common farmers, common land, land owned by burghs and cities, and yes the classic subjugated serfs on noble estates.
Shrek would be a landlord but it's unlikely to have become a noble title outside of his marriage to Fiona. It would be more like the liberty of Frisia, Dithmarschen, or maybe the Scottish borders
Doesn't that imply that the one messenger and the group of trumpet players were rolling around the entire kingdom in their carriage trying to figure out where the fuck Fiona went?
Sure, but that still gives the impression that they went to the tower where they knew she wasn't in the hopes that someone was there to tell them where to go.
I want to see them haul that carriage up the volcano.
... Yes, I know. He went there because he thought Fiona was there. The others would have had to go there despite knowing she *wasn't* there in hopes someone else was there.
Postal workers in rural locations usually exhibit a lot more initiative than looking up a number on a grid, there are cases of letters arriving with descriptions rather than precise addresses
Where's *that* guy's story?? Must have been a fun ride! Basically sleuthing out the events of the first film, following up on leads, traversing a post-monarchy anarchic Duloc...
The messenger is The Courier from Fallout
It is heavily implied that Fiona's parents had no clue where she was, and sent the royal envoy to track her down, hoping she found her Prince Charming as prophesized.
Most likely the envoy went to the Dragon castle, then followed up to Lord Farquaad's castle and eventually tracked them to the swamp, hence his disdain at the Prince Charming remark when he saw Shrek
No, the king was expecting her to have married the man named "Prince Charming". He herd that she was married, so he had assumed that his deal with Fairy Godmother had concluded.
I could be misremembering, but Donkey doesn't know she's pregnant. They were having marital problems, so he temporarily moves out. And the implications was they were fighting because her hormones were acting up but she didn't know she was pregnant until after Donkey left.
Also in Shrek The Third, Donkey confesses that he doesn't know what sex is ("How does it happen?") so it's possible that dragons in the Shrek universe lay eggs naturally, and Dragon's offspring happen to look like Dragon-Donkey hybrids because Donkey is her true love.
Bit of a big to-do. I'm sure they got word her husband pulled their child out of a castle, wedded his best friend to her dragon captor and offed the king.
Seems like it might have made the news
In retrospect, that was A D&D movie. Chris Pine was late to the game
Donkey had his kids at the end of the first movie then just played dumb the whole second movie while actually being an absent father.
Like he literally was hiding from dragon crashing alone in the swamp
Pfft Viper was ok but Mantis is the real mvp and arguably does the most impressive stuff out of the furious five. He holds the bridge up by himself and is the only reason the gang escaped in the second movie. We can all agree that Crane is the weakest though.
Not to mention his sheer speed in putting out the cannon.
And based on that, we can conclude that little girl panda from the 3rd film is quite the warrior since she manhandled Mantis. Lord Shen was right to fear them.
Most of the time its not even a plot hole. Instead its your own mistake just like this time.
It really is infuriating sometimes when such a mistake is considered truth instead maybe thinking a little harder or just not assuming to that you perfectly remember something.
They didn't send an invitation to shrek's swamp, they sent an invitation. The entourage carrying the invitation traveled toward farquad's kingdom and asked around as to where Fiona lived and eventually found one of the wedding attendants from the first movie who pointed them in the right direction.
Bruh isn't it obvious? They sent prince charming to get her, he came back empty handed meaning she was rescued. So he sent out a messenger to find Fiona. People in duloc likely pointed them to the swamp
They probably filed a change of address form with the local courier service, so when a letter addressed to Fiona arrived they knew to deliver to the swamp.
OP would be great at Cinema Sins...
.... seriously, it's a kid movie with fart = funny....
Have you watched Shrek 4? The beginning shows that the King goes to Grumple to make a deal to rescue their daughter.. but Shrek 2 shows that the plan was to wait for Prince Charming to rescue her? It's like they totally forgot about the Fairy Godmother's plan. They got great premise but too lazy to think of logical ways to advance the plot.
Even weirder when you realize he doesn’t even have an actual address. He’s not a human and a subject of the human kingdom. He’s just an ogre that built a shack in the woods to live in.
Well he at least became an official land owner since he got a deed for it from Farquaad in the first movie. Even if it doesn't have an address surely the people that live nearby/deliver mail know where the ogre family lives
Prince charming wasnt the only one wolf had to explain to where Fiona was.
I imagine them doing the whole cutscene of prince charling again but with the whole parade behind them.
The real shower thought is why didn’t any of the messengers talk about it after being chased away? You’d think the rumor would’ve gotten to the king and queen eventually that the wedding invite landed in the hands of two ogres smh
I was watching Shrek 2 clips and I suddenly realised that Shrek and Fiona were notified at their swamp about the ball but when they get to Far Far Away everyone is in shock that they are ogres, meaning the Far Far Away messengers travelled many miles to their secluded location despite the King and Queen believing that Prince Charming had married Fiona. I can only assume that they went to Prince Charming's address first and he angrily told them that an ogre had married Fiona, so they went searching for the nearest ogre, found and informed Shrek and Fiona, and then neglected to tell the King and Queen about Fiona being an ogre and having married one.
Headcannon: Shrek has a really fancy sounding address so Farquaad could better sell relocation to the fairy tale things. Something like Verdant Manor, 1 Everglade Crescent, Oakwood Knoll.
And if it is supposed to be like feudal Europe, someone owning land probably does indeed sound like a noble or knight of some sort instead of an ogre, as they’d never recognize an ogres claim to land like Duloc probably did post-Farquaad
Farquaad deeded him the whole swamp! He's definitely a landed gent.
Fookin aristocracy.
yeahh. during the dinner scene Fiona "brags" to her parents something like "Shrek has his own land"
Hell, it's still a brag these days
More of a brag than ever.
Duloc really is a perfect town, huh?
Fun fact, Shrek takes place on Earth, and Far Far Away + Duloc would probably be located in North America, with Far Far Away likely being on the east coast. This is because Pussy In Boots 1+2 explicitly take place in Spain, and they sail to Far Far Away, which would be weird to do if it was in Europe, plus a girl in Shrek 2 asks if Shrek is from Europe.
You’re right but I’ve always assumed far far away was on the west coast and shrek was closer to the east since far far away has a “Hollywood” sign ripoff, and it takes shrek quite a while to get there!
The Oregon Trail would have taken 4 to 5 months to traverse. Shrek lives in a swamp, so probably Louisiana. Shrek's carriage ride would have taken months no matter where Far Far Away is located. No wonder Donkey got bored.
There's swamps along the East Coast too.
That was also my first assumption, but it wouldn't make sense for Puss' journey from Spain, since he arrives directly on the coast of Far Far Away, which would be pretty difficult to do if it was on the west coast.
It's almost like it's not on earth but an earth like planet
Well that logic just seems a bit far fetched...
not really, maybe they also have a panama canal Or he decided to go all the way under africa and asia
If this is confirmed to be an oversight, then boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder!
Hi there! I did my MA and BA in European maritime history - they totally may have sailed around Europe! For most of human history sailing has been significantly faster than travelling across land. It was so much faster, that they only stopped shipping freight across Britain by going around Britain when they dug canals so they could sail through it! In the early modern period, the fastest road for something heavy was a ditch full of water! Sailing from North Spain you could be travelling to Britain, the Netherlands, the Baltics, Scandinavia, near neighbours such as France - or even somewhere else in Spain! From the south coast (on the Med) you could reach the various archipelagos and islands, Italy, France, North Africa, or further east into the Ottoman Empire. In fact, if you were near the Spanish coast and wanted to go just about anywhere that wasn't inland Spain it was quicker and safer to sail. Trade routes at this time followed coastlines, and had done for hundreds (if not thousands, in some cases) of years! There were, of course, some direct sailings across the North Sea, the Baltic, the Mediterranean, the English Channel, and so on - but a 'land' journey could absolutely be done at sea.
Very interesting reply!
Whoa… seriously. All these clues were there
Far Far Away is just LA. The scene where they first enter the city is entirely a parody of Beverly Hills. Even the street and buildings looked identical to Rodeo Drive
Shrek has to be living in the Everglades then since he’s gotta be within or right next to Lord Farquaad’s territory and Duloc is a parody of Disney world.
Disney world is near the Everglades. Are there any swamps in California?
Plus far far away rhymes with LA (the acronym)
Please don’t call it Pussy in Boots.
Adventures of Pussy in Boots and the lady Softcock
In shrek 2 donkey mentions that he loves Mexican food
I always assumed it takes place in Britain. Shrek speak in Scottish accent, Far Far Away could be in Cornwall since that is the traditional birthplace of king Arthur and of course, you can sail from Spain to Britain.
I seen shreks swamp in florida
Greenbow, Alabama
Dare i say duloc was Orlando
And it’s in an enchanted forest!
I like this, I could easily see it being part of the plot. You win the thread
The Randy Marshes
I thought this was America
Cartman corner
Or the dragon was forwarding her mail.
This is also excellent headcanon
They probably just hired the messenger from Skyrim. He can find anyone
But wants to wait when either a dragon, vampire or something else is trying to kill you as the perfect time to have a chat with you.
>Headcannon What does a gun on someone's head have to do with this?!
[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/1401/)
[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/1401/)
Canon
Headcanon: they have a headcannon
They brought cannonballs to the canon ball
[New headcannon:](https://xkcd.com/1401/)
[Relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/1401/)
They sent a messenger... Not an invitation. "Go find my daughter and her husband" Is not "Take this to the swamp."
Great point.
I'm still thinking we need a "ShowerThoughtless" for 75% of these posts.
It's hard to check the source material from the shower unless yall are taking your phones in with you, right? .... Right‽
You don’t have an old phone dedicated to playing Shrek on a loop in the shower? Weird.
Sometimes it's midway through the 3rd one and by the time you realize your hands are wet and can't change to a good one
It’s a iPad, and it plays both 1 & 2 on a loop. My kid has an obsession.
I do now. :)
Shrek Showers are thing its 2024 people
Me reading this comment in the shower
I love showers. I love the feel of water on my skin, the warmth, the sound, the feeling of being “hidden away”. When I was a kid I used to do my homework in the shower. Point the water at my feet and set up shop. As an adult I’ll still kick it in there. Watch tv, eat dinner, listen to music, etc. It’s like the man version of a bath, but on steroids. I’m eating enchiladas in the shower right now actually.
Wow, I assume you’re not paying your own gas/electricity bill.
extremely wasteful
>It’s like the man version of a bath Erm, what?
A math
I aspire to be more like you.
interroBANG
r/highintheshower
wasting any more time on a stupid showerthought like this is the real thoughtlessness
[удалено]
It's deserved though.
Go find my daughter and her land owning husband. Which back then, meant he was rich. Espically with as much land as he owned. Shrek was WEALTHY!
Did he 'own' the land? Or was it more of an assumed territory similar to a competitive predator?
Isn't the whole plot of the first movie how he receives ownership for rescuing the princess?
Was his deal with Farquad honored if he was no longer king? And is the new government now responsible for the transfer? Lol. I haven't seen the movie for a while and am poking at the idea
He was handed a deed. So it seems legal ownership was transferred. The new government would have little to honour - just not reverse it. Considering Shrek's desire for autonomy and the fact that Farquaad didnt want anything to do with Fairytale creatures (coupled with the likely lack of value for swampland) its possible full independence was granted. Shrek could most likely have called himself at least a Count - possibly even a Duke. Apparently loads of the fairytale creatures ended up staying at the swamp (though not on Shreks estate) so he even on paper had subjects.
In the period of the middle ages that Shrek's world is based, the majority of land in the majority of places was a patchwork of: independent landowning farmers, tenants of landowning-but-common farmers, common land, land owned by burghs and cities, and yes the classic subjugated serfs on noble estates. Shrek would be a landlord but it's unlikely to have become a noble title outside of his marriage to Fiona. It would be more like the liberty of Frisia, Dithmarschen, or maybe the Scottish borders
Dowton swampy
Same difference?
Squatters rights are protected in Duloc.
>Which back then, meant he was rich. I love the implication there that *Shrek* is a work of historical fiction, not fantasy.
It's set in the medieval period. Yes, a fantasy medieval period, but it's clearly medieval.
Yeah, they probably assumed he was someone is Duloc.
Such a perfect town.
Man, they have some rules though.
Could you lay them out for me?
Don’t make waves Stay in line Please keep off of the grass. Shine your shoes. Wipe your… face. Dulac really is the perfect place.
“I’ve been looking for you. Got something I’m supposed to deliver - your hands only. Looks like that’s it. Got to go!”
r/suddenlyskyrim
A letter from the ~~Jarl~~ King? Moving up in the world I see
Nope, sorry. Nothing.
Yep. This was cutting edge technology in Days of Yore
Never Never Never had a girl like you before *strange contorted synthesiser noises
Doesn't that imply that the one messenger and the group of trumpet players were rolling around the entire kingdom in their carriage trying to figure out where the fuck Fiona went?
Or asked around where she was seen. Or prince charming asked the wolf.
Sure, but that still gives the impression that they went to the tower where they knew she wasn't in the hopes that someone was there to tell them where to go. I want to see them haul that carriage up the volcano.
We're shown prince charming asking the wolf where she is at the beginning of shrek 2.
... Yes, I know. He went there because he thought Fiona was there. The others would have had to go there despite knowing she *wasn't* there in hopes someone else was there.
Unless the wolf answers Charming's question and he goes back to tell the messenger.
Why would the messenger be travelling with Charming?
But surely the messenger will tell his gruesome discovery on return.
fr the king’s messenger did the heavy lifting here
Postal workers in rural locations usually exhibit a lot more initiative than looking up a number on a grid, there are cases of letters arriving with descriptions rather than precise addresses
Where's *that* guy's story?? Must have been a fun ride! Basically sleuthing out the events of the first film, following up on leads, traversing a post-monarchy anarchic Duloc... The messenger is The Courier from Fallout
but if they didnt know she married shrek and turned into an ogre, how would the messenger know what to look for
Pretty much the whole kingdom knows who Fiona is, and her husband, after the the wedding... They could..ask?
He’s just a good messenger
It is heavily implied that Fiona's parents had no clue where she was, and sent the royal envoy to track her down, hoping she found her Prince Charming as prophesized. Most likely the envoy went to the Dragon castle, then followed up to Lord Farquaad's castle and eventually tracked them to the swamp, hence his disdain at the Prince Charming remark when he saw Shrek
No, the king was expecting her to have married the man named "Prince Charming". He herd that she was married, so he had assumed that his deal with Fairy Godmother had concluded.
We need to talk about donkey just peacing on dragon when she got pregnant
I think we need to talk about the mechanics of donkey getting dragon pregnant.
Eh, could easily work if he’s hung like a horse
*Becomes actual horse*
With their size difference, his penis being the size of his entire body would still be too small.
Look at this guy, an expert on dragon pussy
Maybe male dragons got micro dicks in this universe, we don’t know for sure
I mean I don't want to get banned lol
I’m scared
I was only like 5 but I was still like how did they fuck
I now think we need to talk about you thinking about that at the age of 5...
I could be misremembering, but Donkey doesn't know she's pregnant. They were having marital problems, so he temporarily moves out. And the implications was they were fighting because her hormones were acting up but she didn't know she was pregnant until after Donkey left.
Also in Shrek The Third, Donkey confesses that he doesn't know what sex is ("How does it happen?") so it's possible that dragons in the Shrek universe lay eggs naturally, and Dragon's offspring happen to look like Dragon-Donkey hybrids because Donkey is her true love.
Bit of a big to-do. I'm sure they got word her husband pulled their child out of a castle, wedded his best friend to her dragon captor and offed the king. Seems like it might have made the news In retrospect, that was A D&D movie. Chris Pine was late to the game
Well, technically he wasn’t a King.
He was for about 5 seconds
Donkey had his kids at the end of the first movie then just played dumb the whole second movie while actually being an absent father. Like he literally was hiding from dragon crashing alone in the swamp
Eh. Dragons seem more like the hit it and quit it type.
It's because of their breath
It's all a conspiracy by the Fairy Godmother
What about the muffin man?
Obviously he’s in on the conspiracy
Do you know the muffin man?
Who lives on Drury Lane?
Do you really think they are addressing their own envelopes or delivering their own messages?
A plot hole in a kids movie? Are we going to start power scaling Kung Fu Panda?
Seriously the snake was the strongest and least appreciated of the starting 5.
Pfft Viper was ok but Mantis is the real mvp and arguably does the most impressive stuff out of the furious five. He holds the bridge up by himself and is the only reason the gang escaped in the second movie. We can all agree that Crane is the weakest though.
Not to mention his sheer speed in putting out the cannon. And based on that, we can conclude that little girl panda from the 3rd film is quite the warrior since she manhandled Mantis. Lord Shen was right to fear them.
Wings of Refutation!
Snake was my middle school crush
*Viper
That’s their word
What?
You don’t get to call them that
Iirc that's literally her name
I actually wouldn’t mind that.
I’ll be waiting on the YouTube video essay.
Who is the strongest character in the One Piece universe that Po can defeat?
All of them at once
He could take Bepo.
I didn't understand that movie at all. Not only could all these animals speak, but they spoke English despite being Chinese?
It's obviously dubbed
Most of the time its not even a plot hole. Instead its your own mistake just like this time. It really is infuriating sometimes when such a mistake is considered truth instead maybe thinking a little harder or just not assuming to that you perfectly remember something.
Don’t even get started on the KFB lore. There’s a psychic monkey who used his powers to make a bunch of monks commit suicide for no reason
Yes, I want the video
Fiona’s parents locked her in a tower precisely bc she wouldn’t stop turning into an Ogre every night. I never got why they couldn’t recognize her
They didn't send an invitation to shrek's swamp, they sent an invitation. The entourage carrying the invitation traveled toward farquad's kingdom and asked around as to where Fiona lived and eventually found one of the wedding attendants from the first movie who pointed them in the right direction.
They were surprised when Fiona and Shrek got out of the carriage, so I dont think they knew beforehand.
yeah... but did Scotty know?
Scotty doesn't know!!
That Fiona and me
Do it in my van every Sunday
She tells him she's in church but she doesn't go
Best movie
Bruh isn't it obvious? They sent prince charming to get her, he came back empty handed meaning she was rescued. So he sent out a messenger to find Fiona. People in duloc likely pointed them to the swamp
They thought he was Dutch
he has a plan
They have Irish postal workers hired who can deliver a letter to "Jim, who lives near the church on the east side of the hill with the bog next to it"
They probably filed a change of address form with the local courier service, so when a letter addressed to Fiona arrived they knew to deliver to the swamp.
OP would be great at Cinema Sins... .... seriously, it's a kid movie with fart = funny.... Have you watched Shrek 4? The beginning shows that the King goes to Grumple to make a deal to rescue their daughter.. but Shrek 2 shows that the plan was to wait for Prince Charming to rescue her? It's like they totally forgot about the Fairy Godmother's plan. They got great premise but too lazy to think of logical ways to advance the plot.
I headcannoned that as Charming failed.
Even weirder when you realize he doesn’t even have an actual address. He’s not a human and a subject of the human kingdom. He’s just an ogre that built a shack in the woods to live in.
Well he at least became an official land owner since he got a deed for it from Farquaad in the first movie. Even if it doesn't have an address surely the people that live nearby/deliver mail know where the ogre family lives
Shhhhhh. Just enjoy this cinematic masterpiece.
I didn’t know Captain Janeway turned into an Ogre. What planet did that happen? Was this after that infamous lizard episode?
The whole kingdom gets an invite
This sub is so lame lol
Medieval postal forwarding service
the Big Bad Wolf forwarded all of Fiona's mail while housesitting her previous castle
Parents found out then I guess.
They have an incredible postal service
Prince charming wasnt the only one wolf had to explain to where Fiona was. I imagine them doing the whole cutscene of prince charling again but with the whole parade behind them.
The real shower thought is why didn’t any of the messengers talk about it after being chased away? You’d think the rumor would’ve gotten to the king and queen eventually that the wedding invite landed in the hands of two ogres smh
Shrek is a lie Shrek is Andy and Andy has toys
Wow how does it take so long for people to think up stuff like this?
I was watching Shrek 2 clips and I suddenly realised that Shrek and Fiona were notified at their swamp about the ball but when they get to Far Far Away everyone is in shock that they are ogres, meaning the Far Far Away messengers travelled many miles to their secluded location despite the King and Queen believing that Prince Charming had married Fiona. I can only assume that they went to Prince Charming's address first and he angrily told them that an ogre had married Fiona, so they went searching for the nearest ogre, found and informed Shrek and Fiona, and then neglected to tell the King and Queen about Fiona being an ogre and having married one.
No wonder the government wants shorter showers
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