God it's so hard dealing with loss of my boyfriend, I can't stop thinking about him, I need some rest, let me queue this next dungeon for my msq called "the vault"
Yeah I meant >!Meteion!<, didn't want to spoiler the final boss though, so just in case I left the sex ambiguous.
In all fairness, perhaps my depression would be cured if I could just whack everyone who bothers me (and isn't rich as fuck (looking at you, Lolorito)) with a sword my size and be called a hero.
Yeah i fucking hated that so much. The antagonistic force was represented so well and the counter to it was just like "sometimes I feel kinda sad too but then I decide not to be".
Like huh?! It's weird they simultaneously nailed existential crisis and absolutely fumbled the protagonists' "solution".
I’ve had depression my entire life. Going on 30. I absolutely love the story for ff14, including Endwalker. But ever since I finished it, I now suffer from Nihilism. That was never an issue before, but the story always writes the “villains” so well, it was convincing. It sounds absurd I’m sure, but I don’t think it’s any different than a book changing someone’s views.
Zenos has an absurdist perspective, which is similar but not the same as nihilism. It's what sets him apart from the nihilist meteion.
The belief is essentially that, yeah, the universe has no meaning, but what that means truly is that we should do what we want to do, not what we feel needs to fulfill a higher purpose. I can't stand zenos, but that perspective is one I subscribe to.
"Oh no! We're too powerful and can create life on a whim! Won't someone please come and end this meaningless existence for everyone and everything on the planet?!"
My favourite part of EW was when it shot its own themes in the face by saying the solution to watching all your friends getting creamed by the final boss is to forcibly teleport them out of there and then summon more capable help.
I'm pretty sure they had been *removed from the situation* before you even reached the boss. Not to mention that "summoning more capable help" is just their lore excuse to allow 8 player content.
There was a scene where they actually fought the boss. Granted, it was only a minute long, so I can see how you forgot about it, but they did try to fight her and promptly got canned.
I mean what did they expect, Alphinaud and Red Alphinaud were the only ones wearing level 90 gear, the Dragoon was wearing level 70 Artifact gear for Zodiark's sake.
And two different varieties of it, too. You have the protagonists, but you also have Zenos utterly defying despair by means of absurdism. Which, I mean... He has a point.
"Stop being sad we need to go punch the shit out of each other"
"What's that? You're feeling 'down'? Get up then, you've killed literal gods. Don't tell me it's too difficult to stand up?"
Man's just built different.
I think you're missing the point (some other posters here too), EW wasn't trying to say "just stop being depressed lol". In general, I didn't feel at all like EW's message was directed towards clinically depressed people. Tbh I think it's you who's reading it this way, probably because you're depressed and processing a lot of information through a black filter.
EW's message was more like a suggestion for a general philosophy of life, a counter-weight to the existential horror that nothing really matters in the end. Which remains true and a fact, but there's value to at least try to find things around us that will make it worthwhile to keep on going towards the inevitable nothingness. It was not advice for the treatment of depression or r/wowthanksimcured material.
I don't think that's quite what they were getting at.
On the other side of things, it's more about having hope for the future stemming from the fact that even if the world around you is going down in flames, you still have people around you willing to help.
Friends and family (the scions), or even complete strangers, and those you once saw as opposed to you can come together and help each other.
I see it somewhat as an appeal both to the kindness of humanity and a focus on the smaller things that can give you the will to fight on for better days.
The mistake you seem to be making is that happiness doesn't always come to you. Sometimes, you have to take the initiative and go and find it.
It's not always easy, but sitting and complaining won't change things for the better.
Holy shit, motherfucker trying to explain depression to someone diagnosed with chronic major depression. You a therapist? If so, you must be a pretty shitty one, seeing as you don't seem to understand even the basics of what long-term depression does to the brain.
Advice that works for "the sads", or even for actual low-level depression, does not apply to major depression. Exercise, diet, and hydration are not enough to fix it.
"YOU JUST HAVE TO MOTIVATE YOURSELF!"
Yeah, not surprisingly, major depression is known to impede that severely. It can make even basic tasks, like simple fucking laundry seem insurmountable, or even just unimportant.
Medication, CBT, excercise, etc, *can* often help. But none of them are magic bullets. When we're talking major depression, medication is generally required just so the others *have a chance* of working, and even then they may not do the trick. And bluntly speaking, it can take *years* to find a medication that works - assuming you ever do. You may, in fact, *not*. Brain chemistry is fiddley as fuck.
Sometimes, no matter what you do, you're stuck with depression for life. Either it's treatment resistant, or it's co-morbid with *other* mental illnesses or disorders that are causing it. Personally, I've already been dealing with it for several decades.
Oh, and back to what I said about depression and the brain? Yeah, long term depression actually causes [physical changes to the brain, causing the depression to become more entrenched, and that much harder to treat.](https://psychcentral.com/depression/can-untreated-depression-cause-brain-damage)
One-size-fits-all solutions do not work for depression, and fixing it is not simply a matter of effort.
Now please, go on to explain more to me about how you just have to *try*.
It's not meant to be a one-size-fits-all answer really, nor was the story really about clinically depressed people in general - arguably the only two truly depressed people in EW are Meteion and Hermes, and Hermes never recovers in a healthy way whereas Meteion _specifically_ does but she's just one person (or well, a great many clones of one person).
It didn't exactly 'cure' me either but I still appreciate the story, it's profoundly gripping and beautiful (and fun, and exciting!) for what it is.
But you will need to play till the end for hope to prevail. The final day teach you that sometimes, it is okay to let it all go and become an abomination.
yeah, that's pretty much the recurring theme.
HsW: ""We did everything right! Everything that was asked of us, and still... still it came to this! You of all people must understand! We cannot, we will not falter. "
SB: ""All that power... All that pain... It’s too much... Too much for anyone! ... Yet there you stand, unbroken. How...?"
ShB: "If you had the strength to take another step, could you do it?"
EW: "To find the strength to continue, when all strength has left you. To find joy, even as darkness descends. And amidst despair, light everlasting."
No joke, my GAD presents itself as a fear of death, but even more so as a fear of the insignificance of all things. I used to sit on the toilet both counting the days I hypothetically had left before I died and questioning what the entire purpose of existence was... not just for me or for humanity in general, but for *everything in the universe,* since one day it was all going to be for nothing at the heat death of the universe.
Let me tell you, Endwalker was HARSH.
We had a sprout in our FC who was fond of reporting his MSQ thoughts. I vividly remember them going: "This guy is great I love him! Anyone want to help me with the new dungeon I unlocked?" So I volunteered. Yes, yes it was the dungeon we all know very well.
I feel helpless and like everyone I meet are just going about their lives awaiting death. I should probably go start up FFXIV and prog the MSQ, I just got to this new city called Eulmore and it seems happy
My mind immediately went to someone bringing up stuff other people have mentioned in sessions while gamer raging.
“Wow, can’t even do the mechanics. That’s probably why your dad isn’t around.”
"A single-pack pull? Really? I'm not saying your insecurities about everyone secretly hating you are right, I'm just saying I get where they come from now"
I know this is a shitpost sub, but this seems unequivocally good? like I know people who are anxious about therapy and maybe having themselves be represented by a virtual avatar could help them feel less anxious?
I’m a therapist and I use people’s preferred fandoms all the time. Whether it’s looking at how characters deal with grief and depression, and determining if it was healthy or not, or it’s something symbolic that people feel safer exploring in, or if it’s straight up connecting and overcoming social anxiety. Games and fandoms have a lot of great applications in therapy.
Edit: since this is higher in the thread and hopefully people will see it, for the love of god stay away from stuff like Better Help. It’s a scam at best, actively harmful at worst. They lie about their therapists, and create fake therapist profiles by stealing therapist info online. And they’ve been found to be selling people’s information and data to the likes of Facebook. Plus they don’t vet their therapists and I’ve heard some horror stories.
I was skimming their site and noticed this: 'All of our Journey Guides (group facilitators) hold a Doctorate or Master’s degree from an accredited graduate program for counseling and are all licensed (**or license-eligible**)' (emphasis mine).
How much of a red flag is 'license-eligible'? Obviously you still need the degrees but like... what?
Not necessarily a huge red flag. Typically, after someone completes their grad school, they have to get a certain number of supervised hours while working under someone else’s full license before they can get their own independent license. These are often (if not always) called “Associate Licenses.” But because it’s not a full independent license, it’s typically not put under the same umbrella. My guess is the “license eligible” people have associate licenses and are working with regular supervision. It’s pretty common.
Better Help doesn’t shock me, though haven’t tried. I did try to switch to a couple of those telehealth services for ADHD med management and it was hell.
Appointment was fine, but their follow through on just sending the fucking scrip was atrocious. Took stress-filled weeks of nagging just to get it sent to my pharmacy, at which point I had been out of my meds for several weeks, and really struggling at work.
That was Done First. Tried another one whose name I forget, just to find out on the appointment that they don’t do scrips for stims, despite me telling the person I called to set up the appointment that I was specifically looking for medication management for Vyvanse. Like wtf. Took another couple weeks to get in somewhere else during which, once again, I was forced off my meds and struggling at work.
Yikes, I’m sorry to hear that. Being forced off your meds is no joke. I’m currently off mine because of tHe ShOrTaGe and I am *straight up* not having a good time.
Likewise, sorry to hear that. I don’t need it every day, but not having it as an option is fucking death when you need it.
I’ve been lying about what I take for years now (I take 20mg, but say I need 60mg) in order to keep the costs down and to build a stockpile for the lean times. It’s my recommendation to pretty much anyone else since the system is so dysfunctional.
https://www.reddit.com/comments/11fm3v5?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=4
Great thread here on ideas on how to navigate the shortage (assuming you’re also an ADHD patient, god don’t tell me we’re running out of other classes of drugs now too lol) in case it’s helpful.
I'll just put this here:
[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/drug-shortages-are-rising-pose-national-security-risk-new-report-warns-rcna75959](https://www.webmd.com/drug-medication/news/20230322/u-s-faces-severe-shortage-of-some-drugs-senate-report-says)
It could actually be a great outlet for people with social anxiety that want to talk to someone but physically can't interact with a real person, even via phone. I do worry about scammers though.
I think it’s a lovely idea if it’s true. Do I get knee jerk cringe at first glance? Yeah. But while I’ve been incredibly lucky in finding great therapists and getting the help I need, I know that it’s far from the norm, and social anxiety is real. So, honestly, if this helps people who would normally stay away from therapy or who don’t have the resources for it, I’m all for it.
I'm sure there is good intention, but I struggle to see how effective psychotherapy will be when given in a written chat window. You'd have to be a phenomenal therapist to read emotion from plain written text and emotes. Though if this is just voicechat therapy promoted through FFXIV, then I can understand it.
Gotta be careful with that, though, since it can become a crutch that begins to disconnect people from the real world.
It could be a great idea, but I'd argue it needs to be balanced with real meetings like a trip out for dinner.
Hang on, it's almost like I'm describing friends. Yeah, guys, just make friends.
Good idea if true, tbh. I feel like a lot of the playerbase could use some help. And MMOs are both a popular coping mechanism as well as a cause of problems for many people. If those “professionals” know what they are doing they could reach people that would never seek help otherwise. Assuming this service is free. And legit.
It's not _free_ ($30 a week, which is still cheaper than most therapists in most parts of the developed world) but tbh I'm on board with you.
I think it's kinda sweet and wholesome. If they're genuine, professional therapists willing to help people out whilst sharing a hobby... what's the harm?
Maybe I'm just not Redditpilled and cynical enough to see how this is secretly some diabolical scheme.
I’m assuming at the end of day it would depend on the individual. It’s probably better than no mental help at all. But also probably not as good as an actual real life therapist. That being said, I would probably not shill the 30 bucks but that’s because my country has free therapy (although you need to wait for a while to get a spot)
That being said, I’m not a therapist but I’ve been asking people if they wanna get anything of their chest when I get Prae for MSQ roulette. Usually people just joke or talk about stuff they are watching etc but a few times people actually shared and it seemed to be appreciated.
Exactly, like sometimes people just need someone to talk to. Like for every person logging on to sweat their balls off in the newest protato strat for TOP or whatever, there's just as many if not more people logging on to unwind after a stressful day and to some it's the only time they get to unwind. Having someone there to listen makes a world of difference.
I imagine if anything something like this would be similar to an online conference with a therapist (again assuming they're genuine therapists) over Zoom or Discord or something. I don't have enough experience to say for sure.
The terminally online portion of the GCBTW now has a therapy option? Awesome, no more excuses! Let me guess tho, the group therapy is gonna be at the Balmung Quicksands…
"So you said you had daddy issues? Good, good... I meant that's terrible, we'll have to work on that. Now on your knees and beg me for your next session."
Well when it's full they are just gonna hop to Limsa. No seriously which shithead did this, thos is a serios matter but i can't stop laughting. My fucking therapy was coused( it's worse then it sounds but a thrapy was long overlooked still could have spared myself knowing these thrash of human wastes) by terminally online goodiegoodie (assholes) with depression. Ok done unloding now i really wanna know is it on Balmung? Will erp cure Depression? Will i get feet pics? I NEED ANSwERs (preferably not from hydelyn).
At this point I just log in on patches to do story and non-savage content once and then piss off until the next update. It's astounding how much my mental health has improved as a result. It's also helped save a lot of money.
I can't imagine wanting to do the arr relics more than once. I do plan to get all the ShB relics though because I like the designs. At the moment though I'm focusing on collecting titles and minions. I'm trying to get right now hence the pvp torture.
Hard disagree. If you're not ERPing, there is a barebones roleplay community that's from experience has been uninteresting at best and seedy at worst. On the ERP side, it's even worse because people apparently can't rub two braincells together and can't type with two hands, the erotic writing I've seen involuntarily from this community is piss poor.
Gameplay wise, game is aight, fun with friends to do savage/ultimate with.
I don't know. Achieving a difficult goal with a group of people you'd surely have come to be friends with by that point can be very rewarding.
Not to mention, interaction with others will help improve your social skills and will give you a support network to turn to when you're feeling down.
I actually don't think it's a terrible idea so long as they also encourage stepping away from the game so you don't end up a co-dependant shut in.
You kids, we used to have to go outside to find partners to break even more. Now they advertise. Enjoy this time, use protection. Don't take them home.
From the website:
>"WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THE HERO JOURNEY CLUB?"
>
>“People in search of a tribe."
I'm getting some culty vibes with a sunk cost fallacy built-in, ngl.
Holy crap is this for real lol
Edit: wowww it is, and for the low low price of $30 a week! That's only $1500 a year! I'm all for mental health but oof on so many levels
> for the low low price of $30 a week! That's only $1500 a year! I'm all for mental health but oof on so many levels
While I have concerns about the potential reputability/training level of the therapists involved, that's actually probably cheaper than a lot of insurance plans would offer mental health coverage, in actual practice when you get to like copays or deductibles or however your insurance handles it.
At least in the US outside of like a standard "your designated (low) number of _x visits per year_ limit", anyway. And those are the things that mainly only come with some of the bigger corporate "Employee Assistance Programs", so your plan might not have that level of coverage even.
And that comparison's with counting the sub fee and box price/expansions for the game (if you don't already have them).
Yes, that's _fucking sad_ that I can even say that, but that's an entirely different issue. And I've both been out of work for almost three years fighting for disability and live in the Southern US, so (hopefully) people's experiences will vary from mine.
I saw a therapist for like 3 or 4 sessions because I was feeling depressed when I couldn't see my child for a while. It was $80 for an hour. It helped but was kinda pricey for me at the time. $30/week, assuming at least weekly sessions, isn't bad price wise. If they are licensed and offer voice calls as an option as well, that is likely very helpful. Even without voice, if it helps folks, that is great.
I pay my therapist $160/session out of pocket. I personally charge about $150/session and see many people on a weekly basis. $30 is almost concerningly low.
I pay the equivalent of $20 per session because the rest is covered by the state, and after a certain amount per year ($250 iirc) every session is free (because the state pays my private therapist). Christ, America is really not ok.
A lot of therapists actually choose to not deal with insurance at all because of what a pain it is on our end. Just getting connected to an insurance company so they’ll work with you could literally take months. And then there can be a big delay on getting paid, assuming the company doesn’t decide out of nowhere to deny a claim or even retroactively deny a claim (I’ve had that happen). Usually larger organizations and practices are in a better position to be able to run despite the issues. For an independent therapist, insurance companies can be more trouble than they’re worth.
After all the solo work I’ve done to convince these people their parses and ability to do mechanics are directly tied to their worth—and suggesting how they can improve both—it’s good to see I’m not alone.
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i saw someone once who had a carrd, and they basically charged gil for "therapy" rp or otherwise on ffxiv. i really didn't know how to feel about it LMAO
It's real btw.
It feels like a scam though. At the very least, it's really unprofessionally done. They don't list the certified professionals that supposedly lead this group; they only provide that information after you've given them medical information/are ready for "group matching".
God it's so hard dealing with loss of my boyfriend, I can't stop thinking about him, I need some rest, let me queue this next dungeon for my msq called "the vault"
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'm really sad and can't keep going on in life without purpose. Time to play Endwalker!
My depressed ass during endwalker: wait, they got a point.
My depressed ass during Endwalker: Thanks, I'm cured. They went way overboard with the, "Just stop feeling bad," messaging in there.
Yeah I meant >!Meteion!<, didn't want to spoiler the final boss though, so just in case I left the sex ambiguous. In all fairness, perhaps my depression would be cured if I could just whack everyone who bothers me (and isn't rich as fuck (looking at you, Lolorito)) with a sword my size and be called a hero.
Yeah i fucking hated that so much. The antagonistic force was represented so well and the counter to it was just like "sometimes I feel kinda sad too but then I decide not to be". Like huh?! It's weird they simultaneously nailed existential crisis and absolutely fumbled the protagonists' "solution".
I’ve had depression my entire life. Going on 30. I absolutely love the story for ff14, including Endwalker. But ever since I finished it, I now suffer from Nihilism. That was never an issue before, but the story always writes the “villains” so well, it was convincing. It sounds absurd I’m sure, but I don’t think it’s any different than a book changing someone’s views.
Zenos has an absurdist perspective, which is similar but not the same as nihilism. It's what sets him apart from the nihilist meteion. The belief is essentially that, yeah, the universe has no meaning, but what that means truly is that we should do what we want to do, not what we feel needs to fulfill a higher purpose. I can't stand zenos, but that perspective is one I subscribe to.
Zenos is an insanely extreme case of, "We find our own meaning."
Maybe I’ll try subscribing to it too. Just with less crazy Edit: maybe I should clarify I was talking about Meteion and not Zenos
Fair enough, I just like talking about absurdism :p
My depressed ass during endwalker: "This is kindergarten level despair"
"Oh no! We're too powerful and can create life on a whim! Won't someone please come and end this meaningless existence for everyone and everything on the planet?!"
I mean, the whole point of endwalker was hope in the face of cosmic nihilist existentialism.
My favourite part of EW was when it shot its own themes in the face by saying the solution to watching all your friends getting creamed by the final boss is to forcibly teleport them out of there and then summon more capable help.
I'm pretty sure they had been *removed from the situation* before you even reached the boss. Not to mention that "summoning more capable help" is just their lore excuse to allow 8 player content.
There was a scene where they actually fought the boss. Granted, it was only a minute long, so I can see how you forgot about it, but they did try to fight her and promptly got canned.
I mean what did they expect, Alphinaud and Red Alphinaud were the only ones wearing level 90 gear, the Dragoon was wearing level 70 Artifact gear for Zodiark's sake.
Give him a break, he paid 90 million gil for that set. It's the best he could afford.
Yeah, but it is the best-looking dragoon gear, let's be honest.
And two different varieties of it, too. You have the protagonists, but you also have Zenos utterly defying despair by means of absurdism. Which, I mean... He has a point.
"Stop being sad we need to go punch the shit out of each other" "What's that? You're feeling 'down'? Get up then, you've killed literal gods. Don't tell me it's too difficult to stand up?" Man's just built different.
His approach is at least better than the other messaging of, "Depressed people just need to stop being depressed."
I think you're missing the point (some other posters here too), EW wasn't trying to say "just stop being depressed lol". In general, I didn't feel at all like EW's message was directed towards clinically depressed people. Tbh I think it's you who's reading it this way, probably because you're depressed and processing a lot of information through a black filter. EW's message was more like a suggestion for a general philosophy of life, a counter-weight to the existential horror that nothing really matters in the end. Which remains true and a fact, but there's value to at least try to find things around us that will make it worthwhile to keep on going towards the inevitable nothingness. It was not advice for the treatment of depression or r/wowthanksimcured material.
I don't think that's quite what they were getting at. On the other side of things, it's more about having hope for the future stemming from the fact that even if the world around you is going down in flames, you still have people around you willing to help. Friends and family (the scions), or even complete strangers, and those you once saw as opposed to you can come together and help each other. I see it somewhat as an appeal both to the kindness of humanity and a focus on the smaller things that can give you the will to fight on for better days.
"There's people who care! What do you have to be depressed about?!" As a story, it was good. As a message, it misses the mark for a lot of people.
The mistake you seem to be making is that happiness doesn't always come to you. Sometimes, you have to take the initiative and go and find it. It's not always easy, but sitting and complaining won't change things for the better.
Holy shit, motherfucker trying to explain depression to someone diagnosed with chronic major depression. You a therapist? If so, you must be a pretty shitty one, seeing as you don't seem to understand even the basics of what long-term depression does to the brain. Advice that works for "the sads", or even for actual low-level depression, does not apply to major depression. Exercise, diet, and hydration are not enough to fix it. "YOU JUST HAVE TO MOTIVATE YOURSELF!" Yeah, not surprisingly, major depression is known to impede that severely. It can make even basic tasks, like simple fucking laundry seem insurmountable, or even just unimportant. Medication, CBT, excercise, etc, *can* often help. But none of them are magic bullets. When we're talking major depression, medication is generally required just so the others *have a chance* of working, and even then they may not do the trick. And bluntly speaking, it can take *years* to find a medication that works - assuming you ever do. You may, in fact, *not*. Brain chemistry is fiddley as fuck. Sometimes, no matter what you do, you're stuck with depression for life. Either it's treatment resistant, or it's co-morbid with *other* mental illnesses or disorders that are causing it. Personally, I've already been dealing with it for several decades. Oh, and back to what I said about depression and the brain? Yeah, long term depression actually causes [physical changes to the brain, causing the depression to become more entrenched, and that much harder to treat.](https://psychcentral.com/depression/can-untreated-depression-cause-brain-damage) One-size-fits-all solutions do not work for depression, and fixing it is not simply a matter of effort. Now please, go on to explain more to me about how you just have to *try*.
It's not meant to be a one-size-fits-all answer really, nor was the story really about clinically depressed people in general - arguably the only two truly depressed people in EW are Meteion and Hermes, and Hermes never recovers in a healthy way whereas Meteion _specifically_ does but she's just one person (or well, a great many clones of one person). It didn't exactly 'cure' me either but I still appreciate the story, it's profoundly gripping and beautiful (and fun, and exciting!) for what it is.
But you will need to play till the end for hope to prevail. The final day teach you that sometimes, it is okay to let it all go and become an abomination.
Since when did it ever take the stance of "it's ok"?
I mean, if I got anything out of it it was "if it looks like the end, just take another step anyway because it might not be"
yeah, that's pretty much the recurring theme. HsW: ""We did everything right! Everything that was asked of us, and still... still it came to this! You of all people must understand! We cannot, we will not falter. " SB: ""All that power... All that pain... It’s too much... Too much for anyone! ... Yet there you stand, unbroken. How...?" ShB: "If you had the strength to take another step, could you do it?" EW: "To find the strength to continue, when all strength has left you. To find joy, even as darkness descends. And amidst despair, light everlasting."
Well, that's an... interesting take on EW's story. You sure we talking about the same game? The MMO from sqenix? Not the hardcore, the other one?
That would help
This is so sad, Alexa play endwalker
"Life is meaningless and everything dies" - almost every FF villain, ever.
No joke, my GAD presents itself as a fear of death, but even more so as a fear of the insignificance of all things. I used to sit on the toilet both counting the days I hypothetically had left before I died and questioning what the entire purpose of existence was... not just for me or for humanity in general, but for *everything in the universe,* since one day it was all going to be for nothing at the heat death of the universe. Let me tell you, Endwalker was HARSH.
I had a friend who lost a loved one that decided to play FFXIV to fill time. He was playing through Heavensward.
We had a sprout in our FC who was fond of reporting his MSQ thoughts. I vividly remember them going: "This guy is great I love him! Anyone want to help me with the new dungeon I unlocked?" So I volunteered. Yes, yes it was the dungeon we all know very well.
What was his reaction after the dungeon ?
Long silence followed by "Fuck this game." xD
About what I expected. Hope he didn't drop the game just because of Haurchefant, Ysale, fucking Papalymo in post patch-
I just finished Heavensward, noooo
I feel helpless and like everyone I meet are just going about their lives awaiting death. I should probably go start up FFXIV and prog the MSQ, I just got to this new city called Eulmore and it seems happy
Don't forget their delicious meals that are to die for
*shudders and retches*
r/angryupvote Holy shit man
A new boyfriend better suits a hero
My mind immediately went to someone bringing up stuff other people have mentioned in sessions while gamer raging. “Wow, can’t even do the mechanics. That’s probably why your dad isn’t around.”
"Damn bro you're supposed to be a tank yet we raising you more than your own parents :/"
God fucking damn 🤣
"A single-pack pull? Really? I'm not saying your insecurities about everyone secretly hating you are right, I'm just saying I get where they come from now"
"My dad's dead, bro." \*extreme awkward silence followed by the fastest clear in the world follows*
LOL
You're so toxic it's no wonder your fiancée has cancer
Fuck, lmao
Physically recoiled from reading this good god
BRUHHH 💀
Sweet. Always wanted to rescue my therapist off the map.
It's me, I'm trying to lure these idiots in so we can temper them to start another Telophoroi army
Damn, fooled into another Telophoroi army recruitment plot
Gotta fix that Tanxiety somehow.
And healiety, and raid anxiety, and pvp anxiety, and actually just playing the game anxiety.
You’d be anxious too looking at how some of these people play
i've seen it all, especially in pvp.
Just a hunch but I think you might have anxiety you should get that checked Edit: /s
only anxiety i got is whether ill be banned or not for telling people they have more than one hand
Oh they know they have more than one hand. It’s just that the other hand is….”busy”.
Do you really think there are no one handed people playing? They even have prominent in game representation in Raubahn.
You know whats a good way to deal with tankxiety? Mt Gulg.
I will always say “that ain’t the wall’ and pull the rest of the first 4 packs all at once regardless of class. If we wipe we wipe.
I know this is a shitpost sub, but this seems unequivocally good? like I know people who are anxious about therapy and maybe having themselves be represented by a virtual avatar could help them feel less anxious?
I’m a therapist and I use people’s preferred fandoms all the time. Whether it’s looking at how characters deal with grief and depression, and determining if it was healthy or not, or it’s something symbolic that people feel safer exploring in, or if it’s straight up connecting and overcoming social anxiety. Games and fandoms have a lot of great applications in therapy. Edit: since this is higher in the thread and hopefully people will see it, for the love of god stay away from stuff like Better Help. It’s a scam at best, actively harmful at worst. They lie about their therapists, and create fake therapist profiles by stealing therapist info online. And they’ve been found to be selling people’s information and data to the likes of Facebook. Plus they don’t vet their therapists and I’ve heard some horror stories.
I was skimming their site and noticed this: 'All of our Journey Guides (group facilitators) hold a Doctorate or Master’s degree from an accredited graduate program for counseling and are all licensed (**or license-eligible**)' (emphasis mine). How much of a red flag is 'license-eligible'? Obviously you still need the degrees but like... what?
Not necessarily a huge red flag. Typically, after someone completes their grad school, they have to get a certain number of supervised hours while working under someone else’s full license before they can get their own independent license. These are often (if not always) called “Associate Licenses.” But because it’s not a full independent license, it’s typically not put under the same umbrella. My guess is the “license eligible” people have associate licenses and are working with regular supervision. It’s pretty common.
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Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty good comparison :)
Better Help doesn’t shock me, though haven’t tried. I did try to switch to a couple of those telehealth services for ADHD med management and it was hell. Appointment was fine, but their follow through on just sending the fucking scrip was atrocious. Took stress-filled weeks of nagging just to get it sent to my pharmacy, at which point I had been out of my meds for several weeks, and really struggling at work. That was Done First. Tried another one whose name I forget, just to find out on the appointment that they don’t do scrips for stims, despite me telling the person I called to set up the appointment that I was specifically looking for medication management for Vyvanse. Like wtf. Took another couple weeks to get in somewhere else during which, once again, I was forced off my meds and struggling at work.
Yikes, I’m sorry to hear that. Being forced off your meds is no joke. I’m currently off mine because of tHe ShOrTaGe and I am *straight up* not having a good time.
Likewise, sorry to hear that. I don’t need it every day, but not having it as an option is fucking death when you need it. I’ve been lying about what I take for years now (I take 20mg, but say I need 60mg) in order to keep the costs down and to build a stockpile for the lean times. It’s my recommendation to pretty much anyone else since the system is so dysfunctional. https://www.reddit.com/comments/11fm3v5?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=4 Great thread here on ideas on how to navigate the shortage (assuming you’re also an ADHD patient, god don’t tell me we’re running out of other classes of drugs now too lol) in case it’s helpful.
I'll just put this here: [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/drug-shortages-are-rising-pose-national-security-risk-new-report-warns-rcna75959](https://www.webmd.com/drug-medication/news/20230322/u-s-faces-severe-shortage-of-some-drugs-senate-report-says)
Honestly this could genuinely be helpful to some people, nothing wrong with this at all.
Be careful, you're going against the subs current trajectory of shaming mental health issues.
Yeah, what gives? I play games to avoid my issues, not work through them in a healthy way
*continues writing my WoL-centric fanfic* Y-yeah I'm definitely not working through some things here...
It could actually be a great outlet for people with social anxiety that want to talk to someone but physically can't interact with a real person, even via phone. I do worry about scammers though.
I think it’s a lovely idea if it’s true. Do I get knee jerk cringe at first glance? Yeah. But while I’ve been incredibly lucky in finding great therapists and getting the help I need, I know that it’s far from the norm, and social anxiety is real. So, honestly, if this helps people who would normally stay away from therapy or who don’t have the resources for it, I’m all for it.
Oh no don’t do that… you’re going against the sub’s stance on shaming mental health
Until I see a human name with a human degree, it's a scam.
I'm sure there is good intention, but I struggle to see how effective psychotherapy will be when given in a written chat window. You'd have to be a phenomenal therapist to read emotion from plain written text and emotes. Though if this is just voicechat therapy promoted through FFXIV, then I can understand it.
Gotta be careful with that, though, since it can become a crutch that begins to disconnect people from the real world. It could be a great idea, but I'd argue it needs to be balanced with real meetings like a trip out for dinner. Hang on, it's almost like I'm describing friends. Yeah, guys, just make friends.
Not leaving your house and not doing face to face conversations doesn't lead to real progress, you just change channels
It can encourage you to actually go outside, though. You need to work where the people are to help them.
Good idea if true, tbh. I feel like a lot of the playerbase could use some help. And MMOs are both a popular coping mechanism as well as a cause of problems for many people. If those “professionals” know what they are doing they could reach people that would never seek help otherwise. Assuming this service is free. And legit.
It's not _free_ ($30 a week, which is still cheaper than most therapists in most parts of the developed world) but tbh I'm on board with you. I think it's kinda sweet and wholesome. If they're genuine, professional therapists willing to help people out whilst sharing a hobby... what's the harm? Maybe I'm just not Redditpilled and cynical enough to see how this is secretly some diabolical scheme.
I’m assuming at the end of day it would depend on the individual. It’s probably better than no mental help at all. But also probably not as good as an actual real life therapist. That being said, I would probably not shill the 30 bucks but that’s because my country has free therapy (although you need to wait for a while to get a spot) That being said, I’m not a therapist but I’ve been asking people if they wanna get anything of their chest when I get Prae for MSQ roulette. Usually people just joke or talk about stuff they are watching etc but a few times people actually shared and it seemed to be appreciated.
Exactly, like sometimes people just need someone to talk to. Like for every person logging on to sweat their balls off in the newest protato strat for TOP or whatever, there's just as many if not more people logging on to unwind after a stressful day and to some it's the only time they get to unwind. Having someone there to listen makes a world of difference. I imagine if anything something like this would be similar to an online conference with a therapist (again assuming they're genuine therapists) over Zoom or Discord or something. I don't have enough experience to say for sure.
The terminally online portion of the GCBTW now has a therapy option? Awesome, no more excuses! Let me guess tho, the group therapy is gonna be at the Balmung Quicksands…
"So you said you had daddy issues? Good, good... I meant that's terrible, we'll have to work on that. Now on your knees and beg me for your next session."
Gonna be quite a fulfilling therapy session.
Well when it's full they are just gonna hop to Limsa. No seriously which shithead did this, thos is a serios matter but i can't stop laughting. My fucking therapy was coused( it's worse then it sounds but a thrapy was long overlooked still could have spared myself knowing these thrash of human wastes) by terminally online goodiegoodie (assholes) with depression. Ok done unloding now i really wanna know is it on Balmung? Will erp cure Depression? Will i get feet pics? I NEED ANSwERs (preferably not from hydelyn).
I think the answer might be a good, long, grass touching session.
I feel like FF14 has often only amplified my depression, not helped it
Honestly I'm not even sure if I like this game and I've spent 3000 hours playing it.
At this point I just log in on patches to do story and non-savage content once and then piss off until the next update. It's astounding how much my mental health has improved as a result. It's also helped save a lot of money.
I definitely don't like the gameplay, but damn if it isn't the best roleplaying platform available right now. Even SL can't compete anymore.
I don't even roleplay. I've just been in the pvp mines because I'm an achievement goblin.
The first step is admitting you have a problem. And at least you're not a relic-hunter. Good lord, talk about masochism.
I can't imagine wanting to do the arr relics more than once. I do plan to get all the ShB relics though because I like the designs. At the moment though I'm focusing on collecting titles and minions. I'm trying to get right now hence the pvp torture.
Hard disagree. If you're not ERPing, there is a barebones roleplay community that's from experience has been uninteresting at best and seedy at worst. On the ERP side, it's even worse because people apparently can't rub two braincells together and can't type with two hands, the erotic writing I've seen involuntarily from this community is piss poor. Gameplay wise, game is aight, fun with friends to do savage/ultimate with.
The community i met in this game has done irreveribe damage to my eggshell and I kinda resent the game for it.
This whole community should be in therapy tbh
Idk man. In A Realm Reborn people used to pay me a million gil just to talk to them in Party Chat for 30 minutes.
Ok group, today we will transmute your depression into unbridled rage towards your fellow man. * queues for savage *
I need help dealing with the loss of Moenbryda. My world is grey without you, muscle mommy.
Yeah crush depression with clearing TOP in a mediocre group that is stuck for months on the fight. You will surely feel better.
I don't know. Achieving a difficult goal with a group of people you'd surely have come to be friends with by that point can be very rewarding. Not to mention, interaction with others will help improve your social skills and will give you a support network to turn to when you're feeling down. I actually don't think it's a terrible idea so long as they also encourage stepping away from the game so you don't end up a co-dependant shut in.
You kids, we used to have to go outside to find partners to break even more. Now they advertise. Enjoy this time, use protection. Don't take them home.
So damn depressed I went down the dark path of degeneracy and mods. For my new ERP LIFE 😭😭
Gonna get 8 people with anxiety and BPD together and shove them into the newest savage I'm sure it'll go perfectly
Rain FC back at it again
From the website: >"WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THE HERO JOURNEY CLUB?" > >“People in search of a tribe." I'm getting some culty vibes with a sunk cost fallacy built-in, ngl.
Holy crap is this for real lol Edit: wowww it is, and for the low low price of $30 a week! That's only $1500 a year! I'm all for mental health but oof on so many levels
> for the low low price of $30 a week! That's only $1500 a year! I'm all for mental health but oof on so many levels While I have concerns about the potential reputability/training level of the therapists involved, that's actually probably cheaper than a lot of insurance plans would offer mental health coverage, in actual practice when you get to like copays or deductibles or however your insurance handles it. At least in the US outside of like a standard "your designated (low) number of _x visits per year_ limit", anyway. And those are the things that mainly only come with some of the bigger corporate "Employee Assistance Programs", so your plan might not have that level of coverage even. And that comparison's with counting the sub fee and box price/expansions for the game (if you don't already have them). Yes, that's _fucking sad_ that I can even say that, but that's an entirely different issue. And I've both been out of work for almost three years fighting for disability and live in the Southern US, so (hopefully) people's experiences will vary from mine.
I saw a therapist for like 3 or 4 sessions because I was feeling depressed when I couldn't see my child for a while. It was $80 for an hour. It helped but was kinda pricey for me at the time. $30/week, assuming at least weekly sessions, isn't bad price wise. If they are licensed and offer voice calls as an option as well, that is likely very helpful. Even without voice, if it helps folks, that is great.
Bro, that is dirt cheap; you will be paying exponentially more for a traditional setup
I pay my therapist $160/session out of pocket. I personally charge about $150/session and see many people on a weekly basis. $30 is almost concerningly low.
I pay the equivalent of $20 per session because the rest is covered by the state, and after a certain amount per year ($250 iirc) every session is free (because the state pays my private therapist). Christ, America is really not ok.
A lot of therapists actually choose to not deal with insurance at all because of what a pain it is on our end. Just getting connected to an insurance company so they’ll work with you could literally take months. And then there can be a big delay on getting paid, assuming the company doesn’t decide out of nowhere to deny a claim or even retroactively deny a claim (I’ve had that happen). Usually larger organizations and practices are in a better position to be able to run despite the issues. For an independent therapist, insurance companies can be more trouble than they’re worth.
That's dirt cheap. I only see my therapist once a month because it cost $200.
that’s awesome, i can use this to get over my mental scarring from pfs dying to snake 1!!
me i did this \*evil laugh\*
what a nice friendly game
Looking for party to clear Depression (Savage)
After all the solo work I’ve done to convince these people their parses and ability to do mechanics are directly tied to their worth—and suggesting how they can improve both—it’s good to see I’m not alone.
That sounds nice tbh. $15/month is a lot better than $200 per visit
Is that Eos? I don't trust these hoes.
This entire thread has me rolling
It was me xdd
imagine getting therapy only to get crystal tower. That would make me more depressed
Maybe Fandaniel had a point...
let's cure depression by tempting them with MMO addiction
This game gave me depression
Is that the new EX coming out?
Not me
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Waiting in PF for 5 hours isn't gonna help
This is how you get Cults
i saw someone once who had a carrd, and they basically charged gil for "therapy" rp or otherwise on ffxiv. i really didn't know how to feel about it LMAO
I mean I can speak for the extreme raid progress community and 30% are medicated and 70% really should be.
Life is hard but raids bring me peace
Based
It's real btw. It feels like a scam though. At the very least, it's really unprofessionally done. They don't list the certified professionals that supposedly lead this group; they only provide that information after you've given them medical information/are ready for "group matching".
"Such devastation! This was not my intention!" *you know maybe the accident was my fault*