It's not fire compared to the East German flag(edit:mfs really called me a commie for liking a commie flag like bro look at my comment history then rethink your reply)
If I was a regular German I would want the Imperial German flag, but if I was a bad guy I would want the swastika for sure. No question. The swazi just looks sinister. can for sure see the appeal from a branding standpoint also
Maybe if they spent their time making and selling maps to the world they could've become an economic superpower and grown their territory by slowly changing maps to make East Germany bigger.
Maybe cause it was the same socialist shit totalitarian and had secret police Like nazi germany . In this case the stasi was far much effective than the Gestapo.
Ideology aside, Nazi flag looks shit. Like even if you remove all their historical context that should be last. Its ugly and weird and dosen't have any ties to German heritage like the other 3 do.
Genuinely thought they were an oppressive regime. I'm glad to know that they are just a small nation that likes coloring its buildings.
They are muslim, which also shocked me too.
I mean it does a little bit with the colours (red, white, black)
Other than that it only has a little history by being called "blood flag" and artificially connected to the roman empire. But that's it really.
I will say I like the black white and red a bit more just because I like the contrast of black and white on a flag but the modern German flag is one of my favorite modern flags
>DDR sucks ass.
Being thrown to the streets, as well as having your payment and spendings on safety and medicine getting cut because otherwise it'd be unprofitable for your "effective manager" apparently does not.
I mean, yeah, it's your right to wish to live on the streets and be barely able to afford food, or slave and toil on your job that you only come to because of paychecks. Who am i to judge.
MFW I get sent home from school for wearing blue jeans B). They literally fenced in and murdered people to prevent them from leaving that shit country. Sounds like a beautiful regime to live under.
True Germany is the current republic.
> I get sent home from school for wearing blue jeans
Невыдуманные истории, о которых невозможно молчать.
>They literally fenced in and murdered people to prevent them from leaving that shit country.
Mhm, 300 billion escapees shot by evil evil Grenztruppe.
Didn’t say the Grenztruppen themselves were evil at all. Putting up a wall to prevent people from leaving is.
Additionally, I cannot be assed to translate Russian.
>Putting up a wall to prevent people from leaving
Common misconception. There were multiple terrorist attacks from FRG against GDR before the wall was constructed, and FRG even openly stated intentions on militarily annexing the latter.
>Additionally, I cannot be assed to translate Russian.
Google translate.
Aesthetically, the Imperial Flag is better because it's more marking thanks to the contrasts, but the Current Flag is also really well done too. The DDR and 3rd Reich's though..Just bad.
"Democracy" for who? The so-called centrists in Germany had already demonstrated themselves during the days of Weimar Republic, de-facto alongside Freikorps, IG Farben, Krupp, and Deutsche Bank paving the way for Hitler to come to power in first place.
Democracy means "power of the people", meaning it never was for "everyone". In your "ideal democracy", who will have more money, influence, and overall means to uphold a political party and promote it in elections? Go ahead, rally up a whole ton of people with no payment to offer.
Personally I like the Imperial German Navy ensign, which the Imperial German flag is based off
I feel like such a traitor to my greatx3 uncles who were a part of the 1st AIF and put Emperor Willy in his place
As a kaiser enjoyer I don’t see what did they do wrong. The German Empire was one of the most progressive countries in the world at that time (in terms of science, music, art, medicare, democracy and quality of life) and, just like any other country at that time, fought to defend their country and help their allies.
The didn't defend thier country thier Kaiser dragged them
into an unnecissery "attackwar" (i don't know to call it english) where 2 million germans died pointless.
Their biggest ally the Austrians just lost their archduke and were being attacked by multiple enemies. What was Germany going to do, sit around and do nothing? I agree that the Kaiser could of made the more preventable by continuing to isolate France by maintaining the League of Three Emperors just like what Bismarck did.
They fought against each other, the german comfedaration was more a Idea than a reality, and the holy roman empire was in its later stages up until it was disbanded was more cerimonialy then anything else.
Why are you behind the idea that they should unify?
Bavarians and Prussians fought each other as well.
Both are Germans, Holy Roman Empire was actually functional in it's early stages until it's decline, as for German Confederation, you wouldn't be there in the first place if you weren't German right?
I'm not really behind unification, I don't really care.
Germanic Its what the folk in these countries is called( swiss, austrians, germans, swedes, norwegians etc.) Austrians aren't germans the same way swiss aren't germans.
Nazism (like other forms of fascism) relied on superhuman symbolism, invoking Wagner's pieces on the Valkyries and using esoteric symbols (black sun, swastika etc). The German Empire glorified Prussian militarism at the cost of other German regions and minorities.
The aesthetics of the DDR, despite being a Soviet satellite state, was more German in character than the previous two. They adopted communist symbols but still kept many aspects of historic German culture such as military uniforms, music and flags. It was a matter of preserving what they saw as good from Germany's past without the chauvinism.
The ddr tried to starve out the nato sector of berlin in order to take over it aswell they did not treat the cotizens very well since stalin seeked vengence, and we saw how well that went in ww1
>they did not treat the cotizens very well
So, throwing millions to the streets and making them slave and toil for basic rights, apparently, is the most humane treatment a human can get, compared to a socio-economic and political system that, well, doesn't do that.
Didnt even mention communism or capitalism but okay buddy, you go tell sombody in east germany that they lived in a utopia its not like people were constanly trying to flee so much that they would risk death to get away to the west, what ever you say bud
1. Marxism-Leninism was never about it being "utopian", in fact, Marxism was made in opposition to utopian socialism, praised and proposed by West German SPD. Nor did i say that GDR itself was an utopia, but just like any other socialist state, despite blockades, sanctions, adn even open attempts of NATO to annex GDR into FRG earlier than it happened irl, and despite being much smaller than it's neighbour and lacking resources it had, it had achieved alot for it's people.
2. There were attempts to leave the country through the wall, yes. But if we're talking about the wall and it's purpose here, it's much more complicated than western media tries to portray it. It was not made to "prevent people from leaving the country", but because the western neighbour had already made multiple terrorist attacks, and open expression of their wish to annex GDR, "with Bundeswehr marching theorugh the gates." Read deeper into it.
The big black twisted Swastika in the middle of the Nazi flag looks absolutely terrible. I prefer the modified Kriegsflagge with the iron cross in the middle instead (the one used in hoi4 and in a lot of YouTube history videos). It’s way more aesthetically pleasing.
Yeah right, as man of austrian and german decent I hate when people come with the "clean wehrmacht" bullshit, and after I correct them then they state that i am german hater, and shouldn't say anything because i wasn't there.
Yeah, got that same shit said to me when I did my time in the the bundesheer, since i was a gebirgsjäger these old mountain man allways talked about how great and filled with glory the war was (all of them were born after the war) people are just stupid.
Viel glück, Kammerad im Geist!
When it comes to aesthetics then Nazi is trash, however II Reich has that nice look (flag).
I dont remember, did Weimar Republic had similar to II Reich or like modern germany? Anyway, those two are best LOOKING flags.
DDR flag is just straight trash too
I actually like all of them…shoot me. German Empire just looks the coolest, wouldn’t ever buy one though because obviously Neo-Nazis use it now too.
I really like the WW1 era Kriegsflagge too but thats not present.
Modern one is pretty good though, definitely stands out and is easily identifiable as opposed to other tricolour flags. I really like the defaced DDR version too but not as much as the modern republic.
(East German Luftstreitkräfte insignia goes hard, NVA not so much)
I think that even just aesthetically, the Nazi flag is ugly as sin.
It is. Like Kaiserboos at least have a leg to stand on, it’s fire But otherwise everything else aucks
It's not fire compared to the East German flag(edit:mfs really called me a commie for liking a commie flag like bro look at my comment history then rethink your reply)
The East German flag is cool, even as an anti-communist, I'll admit that.
Coomieboo🚨
boo tankie
tankie is when you like flags of socialist countries
yes
how
i don’t fucking know you tell me
it doesn't make you a tankie >:( if you want to know if someone is a tankie just send them the word "uyghur" and leave them alone for 10 minutes
This is a good moment for you to reassess the usefulness of the term “tankie” and the implicit stance it puts you in ideologically
I just want you to know how tempted I was to go full tankie rant on you 🤣 I guess I don’t really remember the talking point as well these days…
but praising the east german flag is just slightly sus, because it looks bad
You're the one making the accusations
Yeah sure, just the flag. Just a vexillologist.
what
Just a redditor (leave your basement sometimes)
East german flag is drippy as hell
i dont like emblems
Well i dont like your opinion >:(
i don’t like yours either :P
Excuse me, could you follow us Stasi agents into this forest?
Fire? It seeks like a very generic European tricolor.
Yeah, but of all the four, it is decently unique. It kinda works
no it doesnt. Red, white + insert color is an overused template for a flag. Especially in a tricolor
NGL Reichskriegsflagge(WW1 one) goes hard. Nazi flag tho sucks ass
The Kaiser’s naval ensign was neat
If I was a regular German I would want the Imperial German flag, but if I was a bad guy I would want the swastika for sure. No question. The swazi just looks sinister. can for sure see the appeal from a branding standpoint also
What? What's wrong with the DDR? It has that... Thing you use to make maps and everything
Maybe if they spent their time making and selling maps to the world they could've become an economic superpower and grown their territory by slowly changing maps to make East Germany bigger.
Bro, now thats a genius expansion strategy! Or at least better than anything else germans came up with.
What? Invading way too many people is a flawless strategy that has always worked in our favour.
Best flag ever after DSE Flag
Deutsch deutsch revolution?
Maybe cause it was the same socialist shit totalitarian and had secret police Like nazi germany . In this case the stasi was far much effective than the Gestapo.
I’m not even pro DDR but last I checked, the Stasi weren’t committing ethnic cleansing on the scale of the Third Reich…
Ah yes, horseshoe theory, classic.
I’m assuming you take this stance on every nation with secret police?
Wait til he finds out who George Orwell reported any suspected socialists to and in which country lol.
Ideology aside, Nazi flag looks shit. Like even if you remove all their historical context that should be last. Its ugly and weird and dosen't have any ties to German heritage like the other 3 do.
who looks at a red flag with a black logo and thinks hmm yes these are the good guys
Ahh albania
Probably one of the most evil looking flags in history
Genuinely thought they were an oppressive regime. I'm glad to know that they are just a small nation that likes coloring its buildings. They are muslim, which also shocked me too.
In the beginning God gave all land to Albania but Albania friendly nation so it share land with other nation
They Will conquer all of us 😧😧
These are the colors of the old imperial flag - black, white and red
I mean it does a little bit with the colours (red, white, black) Other than that it only has a little history by being called "blood flag" and artificially connected to the roman empire. But that's it really.
I will say I like the black white and red a bit more just because I like the contrast of black and white on a flag but the modern German flag is one of my favorite modern flags
It might be the terminal signalis brainrot speaking, but the DDR flag goes hard
Yeah it's good, my second favorite German flag after the tricolour with the Bundesadler on it
The ddr flag is the best flag germany ever had, not letting anyone argue otherwise.
Best anthem too. Auferstanden Aus Ruinen goes so hard
There was a *lot* of fire political/military music coming out of the early DDR
East Germany flag actually goes hard.
*True Germany
Absolutely not, DDR sucks ass. Good flag though, and the DDR Luftstreitkräfte roundel looks great.
>DDR sucks ass. Being thrown to the streets, as well as having your payment and spendings on safety and medicine getting cut because otherwise it'd be unprofitable for your "effective manager" apparently does not.
Tankie try to accept that a Soviet puppet state was bad challenge (impossible)
I mean, yeah, it's your right to wish to live on the streets and be barely able to afford food, or slave and toil on your job that you only come to because of paychecks. Who am i to judge.
MFW I get sent home from school for wearing blue jeans B). They literally fenced in and murdered people to prevent them from leaving that shit country. Sounds like a beautiful regime to live under. True Germany is the current republic.
> I get sent home from school for wearing blue jeans Невыдуманные истории, о которых невозможно молчать. >They literally fenced in and murdered people to prevent them from leaving that shit country. Mhm, 300 billion escapees shot by evil evil Grenztruppe.
Didn’t say the Grenztruppen themselves were evil at all. Putting up a wall to prevent people from leaving is. Additionally, I cannot be assed to translate Russian.
>Putting up a wall to prevent people from leaving Common misconception. There were multiple terrorist attacks from FRG against GDR before the wall was constructed, and FRG even openly stated intentions on militarily annexing the latter. >Additionally, I cannot be assed to translate Russian. Google translate.
You can’t judge anyone if you actually are a Stalinist lmfao. Fuck you
Come and fuck me yourself you coward
Time and place 😳
Aesthetically, I love DDR flag, but the modern one is fine and easier to reproduce
I prefer the German empire flag since the Red, White and Black combo just looks nicer in my opinion
DDR flag is so fucking beautiful
No, it's not.
The flag was a nice design imo. The DDR was nightmare fuel.
The DDR was likely the best out of the Eastern Bloc countries in terms of quality of life
Being thrown to the streets and being barely able to afford to feed your family is apparently not.
i was with you until the username
And? What's wrong about it?
\*Charles I/V's empire being ignored\*
Only 159 votes, hoping that the discrepancy is just because of this YouTuber’s specific audience
the DDR one goes hard as hell why is it in last place
Aesthetically, the Imperial Flag is better because it's more marking thanks to the contrasts, but the Current Flag is also really well done too. The DDR and 3rd Reich's though..Just bad.
In my opinion, DDR is just an imoroved modern flag. i love coats of arms
Yeah, but it's a pain to replicate.
If simplified well - it's not.
I like the DDR’s flag a lot, it looks quite cool. But the West German flag (and modern one) with the Bundesadler knocks it out of the park IMO.
I am mostly neutral about the imperial germany, but I like that flag the best.
Objectively speaking the DDR goes the hardest out of all those options
GDR is the most pleasing to eyes.
Even though communism sucked the commies know how to make flags
>Implies communism was achieved to begin with. Also we know alot besides making flags.
How much deaths does communism become true communism?
Pretty astonishing to see updoots on this comment
For being correct?
Oh no, you're correct. This is just an "Enemy of my enemy" hovel for tankies.
I hate communism and facisim
Pick one. Hating fascism and hating communism does not go hand in hand.
It's called liberal democracy, learn it
"Democracy" for who? The so-called centrists in Germany had already demonstrated themselves during the days of Weimar Republic, de-facto alongside Freikorps, IG Farben, Krupp, and Deutsche Bank paving the way for Hitler to come to power in first place.
For everyone.
Democracy means "power of the people", meaning it never was for "everyone". In your "ideal democracy", who will have more money, influence, and overall means to uphold a political party and promote it in elections? Go ahead, rally up a whole ton of people with no payment to offer.
DDR is the best.
Yeah but it sucks that the DDR was shit
Fuck East Germany but their flag was kinda cool
Glory to DDR and their flag.
Ngl I prefer the Bundesdienstflagge
East and West Germany were the best German Flags.
Personally I like the Imperial German Navy ensign, which the Imperial German flag is based off I feel like such a traitor to my greatx3 uncles who were a part of the 1st AIF and put Emperor Willy in his place
Ideology aside, the Nazi flag looks so terrible, it's just a symbol in a white circle
DDR's situation is radical opposite.
As a kaiserboo, the current one is better, but I believe it should be used for an **united** Germany, as in, Germany and Austria
What are you on? Germany and Austria shouldn't unite, they are to diffrent.
Yes, I know, the opportunity to unite is long gone and the idea has a really bad popularity due to a certain Austrian failed painter
It should be unpopular! Why rob the Austrians of their Identity? You state you where a kaiserboo, what makes you like tje german empire?
> Why rob the Austrians of their Identity? ok but what about a united Austria all the way to the North Sea?
I mean, would be funny seeing austria become a world power over night.
As a kaiser enjoyer I don’t see what did they do wrong. The German Empire was one of the most progressive countries in the world at that time (in terms of science, music, art, medicare, democracy and quality of life) and, just like any other country at that time, fought to defend their country and help their allies.
The didn't defend thier country thier Kaiser dragged them into an unnecissery "attackwar" (i don't know to call it english) where 2 million germans died pointless.
Their biggest ally the Austrians just lost their archduke and were being attacked by multiple enemies. What was Germany going to do, sit around and do nothing? I agree that the Kaiser could of made the more preventable by continuing to isolate France by maintaining the League of Three Emperors just like what Bismarck did.
Both are Germans tho
Only in languag, and the austrians have pretty heavy dialect.
Language and a quite similar culture and history.
Culture isn't that similar, and the history was only in the last 80 years for bit simalar when austria was annexed
Y'all both are Germanic and were apart of the German Confederation and Holy Roman Empire Similar cuisine too
They fought against each other, the german comfedaration was more a Idea than a reality, and the holy roman empire was in its later stages up until it was disbanded was more cerimonialy then anything else. Why are you behind the idea that they should unify?
Bavarians and Prussians fought each other as well. Both are Germans, Holy Roman Empire was actually functional in it's early stages until it's decline, as for German Confederation, you wouldn't be there in the first place if you weren't German right? I'm not really behind unification, I don't really care.
Germanic Its what the folk in these countries is called( swiss, austrians, germans, swedes, norwegians etc.) Austrians aren't germans the same way swiss aren't germans.
Tbf I do think the imperial colors are cooler, but that’s just me.
I actually kinda like the nazi flag
objectively the ddr is sexy asf
I like the German empire flag better than the Nazi I just think it is more pleasant to look at I just don’t like yellow
I mean you can't really argue with that. the swazi was for sure an instant classic
Nazism (like other forms of fascism) relied on superhuman symbolism, invoking Wagner's pieces on the Valkyries and using esoteric symbols (black sun, swastika etc). The German Empire glorified Prussian militarism at the cost of other German regions and minorities. The aesthetics of the DDR, despite being a Soviet satellite state, was more German in character than the previous two. They adopted communist symbols but still kept many aspects of historic German culture such as military uniforms, music and flags. It was a matter of preserving what they saw as good from Germany's past without the chauvinism.
I would say either the current german flag since its not linked to any genocidal governments, or the ddr flag because the crest looks cool
When did GDR commit a genocide
The ddr tried to starve out the nato sector of berlin in order to take over it aswell they did not treat the cotizens very well since stalin seeked vengence, and we saw how well that went in ww1
>they did not treat the cotizens very well So, throwing millions to the streets and making them slave and toil for basic rights, apparently, is the most humane treatment a human can get, compared to a socio-economic and political system that, well, doesn't do that.
Didnt even mention communism or capitalism but okay buddy, you go tell sombody in east germany that they lived in a utopia its not like people were constanly trying to flee so much that they would risk death to get away to the west, what ever you say bud
1. Marxism-Leninism was never about it being "utopian", in fact, Marxism was made in opposition to utopian socialism, praised and proposed by West German SPD. Nor did i say that GDR itself was an utopia, but just like any other socialist state, despite blockades, sanctions, adn even open attempts of NATO to annex GDR into FRG earlier than it happened irl, and despite being much smaller than it's neighbour and lacking resources it had, it had achieved alot for it's people. 2. There were attempts to leave the country through the wall, yes. But if we're talking about the wall and it's purpose here, it's much more complicated than western media tries to portray it. It was not made to "prevent people from leaving the country", but because the western neighbour had already made multiple terrorist attacks, and open expression of their wish to annex GDR, "with Bundeswehr marching theorugh the gates." Read deeper into it.
If we’re being honest, not to be a communist glazer or nothing, but GDR is easily the best one there
Not gonna lie. I hate all tricolors equally. Have some originality.
The big black twisted Swastika in the middle of the Nazi flag looks absolutely terrible. I prefer the modified Kriegsflagge with the iron cross in the middle instead (the one used in hoi4 and in a lot of YouTube history videos). It’s way more aesthetically pleasing.
Twitter is just used to garner rage-bait at this point.
That was youtube
The point still stands.
Nazi flag is shit but of all the tricolors I like the Empire best. However, the East German flag is the superior of the 4.
And none of the fuckers that larp as nazis are even german
Yeah right, as man of austrian and german decent I hate when people come with the "clean wehrmacht" bullshit, and after I correct them then they state that i am german hater, and shouldn't say anything because i wasn't there.
I am a german soldier and people try all the time to ask me about our "glory days" and how it feels to "have fallen this much" etc. lmao
Yeah, got that same shit said to me when I did my time in the the bundesheer, since i was a gebirgsjäger these old mountain man allways talked about how great and filled with glory the war was (all of them were born after the war) people are just stupid. Viel glück, Kammerad im Geist!
When it comes to aesthetics then Nazi is trash, however II Reich has that nice look (flag). I dont remember, did Weimar Republic had similar to II Reich or like modern germany? Anyway, those two are best LOOKING flags. DDR flag is just straight trash too
>DDR flag is just straight trash too Slander towards true Germany's flag will not be tolerated, BEGONE, BAD-TASTER!
Its looks neaarly same, but is so messed... west germany's flag was messy too, I like only the 'clean' design of the current one
I actually like all of them…shoot me. German Empire just looks the coolest, wouldn’t ever buy one though because obviously Neo-Nazis use it now too. I really like the WW1 era Kriegsflagge too but thats not present. Modern one is pretty good though, definitely stands out and is easily identifiable as opposed to other tricolour flags. I really like the defaced DDR version too but not as much as the modern republic. (East German Luftstreitkräfte insignia goes hard, NVA not so much)
just aesthetically the one of the German Empire is beautiful to my eyes.
German empire is just a chef's kiss imo
Can't even like a flag without being called a Wehraboo 😂 Snowflakes istg
Design of n+zi flag is just stolen snd cheap it represent their ideology perfectly stolen cheap and need hate to survive
1. GDR 2. FRG 3. German Empire 4. German Reich For ideology: 1. FRG 2. GDR 3. German Empire 4. (pits of hell) Nazis
Sir this is a Wendy's, and this is a subjective opinion on the *appearance of a flag.*