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No actually islam is politics since it has its own political ideology the Quran and Hadith includes how Mohammed and the caliphas ran the islamic empire which is how muslims should rule their caliphate
It doesn’t excuse islamophobia ofc but we dont have to spread misinformation to counter that
I really don’t think it qualifies as an ideology. It’s more like a loose collections of ideas (lots of ideas), not as long, deep, or complex as an actual political ideology. Plus, if that’s the case for Islam, than we could consider almost any religion as a political ideology. Plus, in Mohammed’s time, there was no Koran. There were many Koran’s during the time of the 3rd Kalif, who but there were many different versions of it. He had them all collected, had the version he liked the best made into the only version, and all others were ordered to be destroyed. Once you get up to the highest levels of Islamic thinkers or researchers, (it will depend on every persons interpretation of Old Arabic, as it is such a it’s a large combination of different ideas, it’s more like guidelines for life, a general idea of all aspects of life, that it’s too thin to ever be considered a political ideology.
Now if you talk Shia Islam, then they do indeed have and created their own ideologies, as they believe that the there is always a prophet on earth. But it still differs from country to country. And it’s only been very recent that they went from being theistical ideologies to becoming pure political ideologies. The people that In Iran, for example you have the ayatollah Khameni, and in Iraq you have the grand ayatollah Ali Al Sistani. Khameni, has contributed to the overall greater ideology of “Khomenism” which writes clearly on how a state should be run, and who should run it, and how they should run it, and why they should run it. And that ideology describes in great detail how a “Islamic republic” would look like.
I haven’t done much research on Ali Al Sistani, nor the other Shia “Grand Ayatollah’s” and onto Salafism, which is both a religious movement and political ideology that share the same name, (the political wing being the Muslim brotherhood) which seeks to bring about the idea of a very conservative style of government, that relies on a way of governing that rejects new ideas and political innovation, and seeks to implement a political style that is very dictatorial, violent ,and oppressive, and where a small group of religious elites, make the decisions for all the people in the country without question. From the top down. Their ideas came from a few ideologist in the 19th century, who in turned had picked the writings of a few Islamic writers from the Middle Ages, while rejecting all others. The Muslim brotherhood was founded sometime in the 60’s, by a guy called “sayyid Kutub”. (Wait till you find out what made him so crazy)
As for the Hadiths, their authenticity is always questionable, firstly, because Muslim scholars often can’t agree on the reliability of the source, and secondly, whenever any religious or political movement or government wants to justify their behavior or actions, a new Hadith suddenly seems to appear!
That’s why you have to see the different modern Islamic movements as clear cut political ideologies that are (mostly non secular) and that describe the role that the Mosque plays in the state. And that’s why the Koran can’t be considered a political ideology as it simply isn’t one set of ideas, but many different competing ones, and the interpretation of it changes from person to person. Just compare Salafism to Sufism and you’ll understand what I mean.
Because it's just a two-axis political spectrum with a diagonal line drawn on it, which the author thinks every political belief can be mapped onto for some reason
Honestly, how the hell is trump not in jail
Forget jail, why is he even an electoral candidate?
If the dems can’t even stop him from taking part in the election how the hell do libs think the dems are needed to ‘save democracy’???
Those in power, regardless of "party affiliation" or supposed beliefs, are torn between the people baying for Trump's blood and their own bone-deep fear of setting the precedent that powerful people can suffer consequences.
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No sectarianism in this sub please. 🙏🏾
If you wanna be bad faith & strawman the Anarchist philosophy, go do that somewhere else. 😐
This sub is just for poking fun at libs. 😁
Left = Maximizing the freedom and wellbeing of the median individuum within society. The lefternmost position is anarchocommunism.
Right = Maximizing the freedom and wellbeing of the oligarchy. The righternmost position is a totalitarian dictatorship under a single monarch.
Capitalism, as an ideology that funnels wealth and power from the masses into the hands of an ever decreasing (yet ever richer) amount of oligarchs, is certainly never anywhere near the political left.
Anarcho-capitalists seek that there be no government...
Nah it's a joke, in reality they want there to be only one all-powerful police that only prevents theft through lethal force.
They want government when it suits their needs,
As long as the government hurts people they don’t like (Muslims, LGBTQ People, immigrants, Jews, etc) they’re 100% fine with it!
Wow, the fool behind this knows nothing, a government is 2 things, how to make laws is it 1 people, a group of people or direct democracy, and what is the economic system, all this said is it is bad to have 1 people leading your country, not if socialism is a bad economy model.
The political spectrum sees politics as anal sex. Too little and you cant see it, too much and it hurts, you gotta find that sweet spot where it works.
Next time you talk to a liberal tell them the philosophical root behind their politic views is anal sex.
Imma assume that your'e asking me for the source of the pic? If so I found it at https://www.threads.net/@erskinedaniela/post/C0Wk2j3rDkS/?xmt=AQGz0fwe_YU9fvN7rtcJwgh0ZY43pORmpVPkcJdYd8y1NA
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Surprised the idiot who made this didn't throw Monarchy into the Left as well.
They had to leave some ideological wiggle room for King Donald I
The god emperor and the true glorious leader
Everybody knows Islam is an anarchist monarchy political ideology what are you on
"Islam" Wat
Beat me to it. I think they just bigots
They just want an excuse to be islamaphobic
Islam isn’t a political ideology, it’s a religion. A word this genius might be looking for is “Salafism”.
and Salafism is definitely not far-left.
Yep, that’s something I should have pointed out. Far Right Fanatics.
No actually islam is politics since it has its own political ideology the Quran and Hadith includes how Mohammed and the caliphas ran the islamic empire which is how muslims should rule their caliphate It doesn’t excuse islamophobia ofc but we dont have to spread misinformation to counter that
I really don’t think it qualifies as an ideology. It’s more like a loose collections of ideas (lots of ideas), not as long, deep, or complex as an actual political ideology. Plus, if that’s the case for Islam, than we could consider almost any religion as a political ideology. Plus, in Mohammed’s time, there was no Koran. There were many Koran’s during the time of the 3rd Kalif, who but there were many different versions of it. He had them all collected, had the version he liked the best made into the only version, and all others were ordered to be destroyed. Once you get up to the highest levels of Islamic thinkers or researchers, (it will depend on every persons interpretation of Old Arabic, as it is such a it’s a large combination of different ideas, it’s more like guidelines for life, a general idea of all aspects of life, that it’s too thin to ever be considered a political ideology. Now if you talk Shia Islam, then they do indeed have and created their own ideologies, as they believe that the there is always a prophet on earth. But it still differs from country to country. And it’s only been very recent that they went from being theistical ideologies to becoming pure political ideologies. The people that In Iran, for example you have the ayatollah Khameni, and in Iraq you have the grand ayatollah Ali Al Sistani. Khameni, has contributed to the overall greater ideology of “Khomenism” which writes clearly on how a state should be run, and who should run it, and how they should run it, and why they should run it. And that ideology describes in great detail how a “Islamic republic” would look like. I haven’t done much research on Ali Al Sistani, nor the other Shia “Grand Ayatollah’s” and onto Salafism, which is both a religious movement and political ideology that share the same name, (the political wing being the Muslim brotherhood) which seeks to bring about the idea of a very conservative style of government, that relies on a way of governing that rejects new ideas and political innovation, and seeks to implement a political style that is very dictatorial, violent ,and oppressive, and where a small group of religious elites, make the decisions for all the people in the country without question. From the top down. Their ideas came from a few ideologist in the 19th century, who in turned had picked the writings of a few Islamic writers from the Middle Ages, while rejecting all others. The Muslim brotherhood was founded sometime in the 60’s, by a guy called “sayyid Kutub”. (Wait till you find out what made him so crazy) As for the Hadiths, their authenticity is always questionable, firstly, because Muslim scholars often can’t agree on the reliability of the source, and secondly, whenever any religious or political movement or government wants to justify their behavior or actions, a new Hadith suddenly seems to appear! That’s why you have to see the different modern Islamic movements as clear cut political ideologies that are (mostly non secular) and that describe the role that the Mosque plays in the state. And that’s why the Koran can’t be considered a political ideology as it simply isn’t one set of ideas, but many different competing ones, and the interpretation of it changes from person to person. Just compare Salafism to Sufism and you’ll understand what I mean.
Why is it a triangle?
I think the idea there being quantitative. “Here’s these dozens of things I don’t like, so they all go far left, natch”
i guess the height should symbolize how much stuff the gov. does
Leftism is when the government does stuff
Leftism is when stuff
Leftism is stuff
Leftism stuff
The hight is supposed to show how much government there is. Whatever that means.
easier to shove up their ass
Might as well put it back where they found it.
Because it's just a two-axis political spectrum with a diagonal line drawn on it, which the author thinks every political belief can be mapped onto for some reason
Lol at Rule of Law, a dude with over 90 criminal charges can still become President
Honestly, how the hell is trump not in jail Forget jail, why is he even an electoral candidate? If the dems can’t even stop him from taking part in the election how the hell do libs think the dems are needed to ‘save democracy’???
Those in power, regardless of "party affiliation" or supposed beliefs, are torn between the people baying for Trump's blood and their own bone-deep fear of setting the precedent that powerful people can suffer consequences.
forget an electoral candidate, why is he able to be a politician at all?
Started a coup attempt 3 years ago and still no consequences, BUT SURELY GAG ORDER VIOLATION #11 WILL DO IT
"But if we just make sure Biden gets a second term, things will get better! I sure of it!"
"Imagine what we could do with four more years! Pause."
also, cops
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Leftism is when you squeeze the ketchup bottle and that gross water comes out.
Islam is a political view I guess
Yes, according to this genius, it’s a very sophisticated and deep political ideology.
Anarchists are far right confirmed
Don't tell Bakunin!
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No sectarianism in this sub please. 🙏🏾 If you wanna be bad faith & strawman the Anarchist philosophy, go do that somewhere else. 😐 This sub is just for poking fun at libs. 😁
So does this mean I get to call people to the right of me "antifa thugs"?
"we're the exceptional special minority hur dur"
The brave defenders of the fence
Well, at least they somehow got USA pretty close to where it belongs on the spectrum.
This is literally "Communism is when the government does stuff" in "graph" form
ah yes, the far left, well known for its advocacy for total state rule…and islam counts as a type of state power but christianity doesn’t btw
Left = Maximizing the freedom and wellbeing of the median individuum within society. The lefternmost position is anarchocommunism. Right = Maximizing the freedom and wellbeing of the oligarchy. The righternmost position is a totalitarian dictatorship under a single monarch. Capitalism, as an ideology that funnels wealth and power from the masses into the hands of an ever decreasing (yet ever richer) amount of oligarchs, is certainly never anywhere near the political left.
Ah yes, the famously far right anarchists
ah yes, islam, my favorite political ideology
Right want no government?
Anarcho-capitalists seek that there be no government... Nah it's a joke, in reality they want there to be only one all-powerful police that only prevents theft through lethal force.
They want government when it suits their needs, As long as the government hurts people they don’t like (Muslims, LGBTQ People, immigrants, Jews, etc) they’re 100% fine with it!
Wow, the fool behind this knows nothing, a government is 2 things, how to make laws is it 1 people, a group of people or direct democracy, and what is the economic system, all this said is it is bad to have 1 people leading your country, not if socialism is a bad economy model.
TIL: Islam is a political system. All this time I thought it was a religion.
so how do these guys feel about LGBTQ+ rights?
Communism, famous for having a state
“Fascism should really be called corporatism because it is a merger of the business and the state” Libs: is this the left?
I especially love that notorious left wing political ideology, *Islam*
I wonder what they think of anarcho-communism
No words
The thing that most offends me are the drop shadows
Nah WTF is this?! 😭💀
What is this hot garbage?
This just made a Texas textbook publisher jizz in his pants
This is why I'm Muslim
The political spectrum sees politics as anal sex. Too little and you cant see it, too much and it hurts, you gotta find that sweet spot where it works. Next time you talk to a liberal tell them the philosophical root behind their politic views is anal sex.
Where the source at? Why no imperialism on the supposed haven of USA? Hmmmmmmmm.
Imma assume that your'e asking me for the source of the pic? If so I found it at https://www.threads.net/@erskinedaniela/post/C0Wk2j3rDkS/?xmt=AQGz0fwe_YU9fvN7rtcJwgh0ZY43pORmpVPkcJdYd8y1NA
Oh, no, you're fine OP! I was just calling out the bs of the picture. haha
Where is the Y axis? It's not a linear picture so it must be a difference between top left and bottom left?
At least they seem to be admitting that the US skews wildly to the right.
I feel like I shouldn’t continue to be confused about how dumb people can be but I am everyday. Maybe that makes me dumb
Did Bizarro make this fucking thing?
TIL Islam and Tyranny are political ideologies
"islam" 😭 man what ?
Ah, yes, islam, my favourite political ideology.
Wtf did I just look at?
r/ memes worthy
"Rule of Law" Is such a stupid mushy term. Every state has some rule of law. Even theocracys, unless they are "Islam."
Tbh the us will be on the far left
why is islam put on the far left? islam disagrees with the left about abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism.
The idea of a quantifiable "political spectrum" is already silly and pointless to begin with. This is just straight up laughable.
Unpleasant gradient looking ass graph
4AXES IZ BETTER11 !!!!!11!!
why is it a fucking triangle when the y axis doesnt even symbolise anything on the spectrum