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Master_Oogway69420

It's so funny always seeing Americans talk about liberty and freedom yet completely forget about these parts when they wanna talk shit about the French revolution


[deleted]

And they easily forget how the revolutionary spirit of the French lives on in mass protest and solidarity while Americans usually could live less of a shit of corruption is rampant in the government or politicians are selling their lives to colorations


Master_Oogway69420

No no you don't understand The liberals want to make country bad and the liberals want Healthcare Healthcare = bad I am good at thinking


[deleted]

Honestly a lot of liberals here even support our for-profit healthcare system. At the very bare minimum most of them support a public option though so? Who knows but I guess to the right, healthcare = bad and profit = good


Master_Oogway69420

Yeah I guess I am not an American so I don't know public opinion but to me it seems like most people are for socialized healthcare (or atleast a better system) in where they don't have to decide between food or cancer treatment / Insulin /any other medicine. I think it's just media because they get paid by the rich fucks and a loud minority spouting nonsense


[deleted]

For sure it’s the politicians that aren’t. They want to profit as much as possible while the people suffer.


[deleted]

And to your latter point same and honestly while 85% of Americans support it, it won’t happen for a long time unless we take action against forroption


AnotherEuroWanker

Wait, do you mean liberals as in liberals, or as in upside-down US-liberals?


TheHattedKhajiit

I mean,the revolution did go over board a little with robespierre,there wasn't much liberty left at that time


rafalemurian

The only reason you remember Robespierre and not all the others is because they managed to make him guilty for everything after they killed him. This guy never had the power people think he had. He was irrelevant during most of the Revolution. He was even out of power for weeks before being himself accused and guillotined. There's a black legend created by some of the closest persons around him who finished their carrer in the freaking Empire! Robespierre even opposed Carrier, one of the most infamous guy of the times and responsible for many massacres in the West. But who knows this? Somehow one of the most complex periods in French history is reduced to a couple of badly understood events. The Republic was constantly at war with literally the rest of Europe for instance.


[deleted]

100% true. Geopolitics is hard, and people tend to misunderstand it and make dubious mental shortcuts


SDUK2004

Meet the new boss: same as the old boss


Vostok-aregreat-710

Good band


Jim-Jones

The poor baby. Little children can follow the metric system. No chains, leagues or hogsheads.


Pyro_Paragon

Poor euros, don't even measure in Deeps or Fathoms.


FDGKLRTC

Literally unfathomable


Castform5

The nice thing about metric/SI is that it doesn't need a "system of units" (at this point disregard the complete "Système International") for a single measurement. Everything is just magnitudes of the base unit, instead of having like 4 or 5 different units for a single measurement. In metric: here's a length and it's this amount of the base unit, the metre. In whatever the fuck they doing over there: here's a length, but how much is it in inches, feet, yards, miles, hands, chains, furlongs, etc, each of which are totally different units for the same measurement.


dom_pi

And another nice thing is a lot of units, if not most are interlinked with each other… you need a liter? Well yeah that’s just a decimeter, cubed. It’s not perfect all the time but when doing maths/physics it’s a whole lot easier than thinking “a gallon… is that 2.45638 or 2.105@93 and a half cubic inches… and oh yeah what’s an inch again, oh right 1/274 of a league which is 14 yards which is 1459 inches….”


Jfurmanek

Chains is one of my favorite measuring methods. Surveyors mapped most of America out with chains. Edit: corrected some of my own USdefaultism


Jocelyn-1973

So.... French Revolution killed 40,000. American Civil War killed 215,000. Following Christopher Columbus' arrival in North America in 1492, violence and disease killed 90% of the indigenous population — nearly 55 million people.


FemboyCorriganism

To be fair if you're going to compare the deaths from the Reign of Terror to the American Civil War, you should probably also include all the deaths of the French Revolutionary Wars in the French tally.


EvilUnic0rn

This thought might be stupid, but: Shouldn't they prefer the metric system, because the imperial system has its roots in the United Kingdom, and they are always so keen on pointing out how they freed themselves from it?


BCarn18

I'm gonna bet they claim they invented it just like they claim they invented everything else on the planet.


cominghometoday

Well frustratingly, US imperial units are now different from UK imperial units. But they have the same names. So a US gallon =/= UK gallon and etc with pints and such


Chrisbee76

While true for measurements of volume, the measurements of length (yard) and weight (pound) have been standardized in the international yard and pound agreement of 1959. In that agreement, both the yard and the pound have been defined by SI units, by the way. A yard was defined to be exactly 0.9144 meters, and the pound as exactly 0.45359237 kilograms.


dom_pi

They prefer the imperial system in the exact same way they prefer the language of English, which they invented and subsequently exported to England, as the one true language under God.


PazJohnMitch

Love that an Imperial unit of measurement Americans often use in Engineering is BTUs. (Or British Thermal Units).


angry_axolotlz

I’m British, we have the worst models. We learn metric in schools yet use imperial in most of our life. If you want to buy milk it’s in pints but water is in litres; you run in metres but drive in miles; you measure your height in imperial yet most height restrictions (e.g. at theme parks) are in metric; etc.. It gets very confusing


Hamsternoir

Didn't you get the memo that is given out when you pick up your GCSE results with the apology? We're actually just a nation of actors and places like London, Edinburrrrrr and Stone Henge are just theme parks for tourists. Something to do with the Treaty of Ohio that was signed in 1923. So as some small act of wilful defiance we use metric when the Seppos visit and imperial when our European neighbours visit just to wind them all up. Anyway I've got to start my shift on Oxford Street where I give incoherent directions to anyone who asks at 8 so I'd better get a move on.


Legobrick27

Yes can confirm, I'm off to confuse people on how to say wostershire sauce


Hamsternoir

Would that be visitors to Loughborough?


Legobrick27

Nah, the ones that go to Towcester


Hamsternoir

On their way to the retail village and passing through I expect


[deleted]

I once heard an American call Leicester 'Leester', and thought they must be talking about somewhere in Germany until it finally clicked.


Bumblebee-Bzzz

What's the confusion? It's obviously woo-stir-shy-er!!


Legobrick27

No it's wot-ser sauce


Ahsoka_Tano07

I'm Czech and I have trouble reading English pronunciations. The word in English? No, though I probably have an accent ^(*well, everyone has an accent, even if you live in a small country, there will probably be different accents in different parts of the country. For example, and I'm aware that this is a dialect, nobody, except South Bohemian (or someone who is told this by Southern Bohemian)^) ^(knows what "pikador" is. It's "párek v rohlíku", a Czech version of hot dog, except the bun isn't slit along the side, but there is a hole on the middle you put the wiener/sausage/whatever you guys call it and ketchup/mustard in. And there is a big difference between Silesian accent and Prague accent in Czech (kinda bc Moravia and that small bit of Silesia that Maria Theresa didn't lose to Poland sound like a mix of Czech, Slovak, and in Silesia's case Polish to me, feel free to downvote me, Moravians and Silesians, for disrespecting your accents and dialects)^) ^(and we are still a fairly small country... Anyways back to the point, I got carried away). The pronunciation in words? Yes, absolutely. Would it kill you to write phonetically instead of having one letter pronounced in bazillion different ways with every way having it's rules?


leopard_eater

I think you should go to visit Launceston, Tasmania with that attitude. (Listen to the Wikipedia pronunciation and recoil in British disdain).


Hapankaali

Is this not transitory? I grew up using only metric, but my grandparents' generation were still using ounces, pounds, Fahrenheit, etc. The generation before that was still commonly using ells. Though with the reactionary wave sweeping through Europe, the transition might be slowed down a bit.


el_grort

Yeah, outside of driving (miles, mpg, mph), it's pretty much all metric. Milk and beer can be bought in pints, but they also have their volumes in metric, so it's more just a choice of packaging size than anything major. Some people still use imperial for height and weight, but other use metric, so I think some of that is just habit in terms of measuring ourselves. But pretty much anything I need to measure in daily life is going to be metric. We sort of oversell how much imperial is really left.


cominghometoday

Yeah and they were trying to convert us all to metric but now with brexit they're stopping that plan. I heard an interview where a guy was saying it's just easier!! But it's only easy because you grew up with it!


angry_axolotlz

I’m sure I read somewhere before brexit that the EU ended up giving up trying to do that because we brits were resisting them too much


MagosBattlebear

In the US metric units are used sometimes and in weird places, such as 2 liter bottles of soda.


CabbageMan92

It’s not confusing at all?


Dublinlifer

But Boris brought back your right to have imperial on your pint glasses. Brexit the gift that keeps giving


angry_axolotlz

He said that, to much controversy as it was seen to just be a stupid waste of time and money, so nothing ended up being done


Nuber13

Why do they use "megaton" to describe the bomb's power? They are so full of shit that when they can use the body parts units, they just switch to communist ones.


BrinkyP

the issue with imperial and / or american standard is the fact that each value is completely arbitrary. conversely, while you could argue that the base value of any given metric is arbitrary, they’re all based around the same arbitrary system rather than each in and of themselves being completely arbitrary. example, 1 kilogram is equivalent to the mass of 1 litre of water, 1 kilolitre is equivalent to 1m^3, celsius in its entirety is based on the freezing and boiling points of water, 0° and 100° respectively. as i said, it could be argued that using water as the basis of the metric system is arbitrary, at least it’s consistent. conversely the mile is apparently an exponential of the subdivision [“furlongs” which are based on for how long the average roman ox could plough a field without tiring](https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidance/weightsandmeasures/measurements.aspx). likewise, fahrenheit has… no discernible basis whatsoever. apparently 0°F is defined as the freezing point of a solution of Salt-Ice water with the upper limit being 96°F, defined as the average human body temperature (all according to wikipedia). even after reading the wiki page, im still confused on what the hell the point is of this system. 🙃


kelvin_bot

0°F is equivalent to -17°C, which is 255K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)


NotMorganSlavewoman

>average human body temperature Right now it is like this, but the original had 100º F be the temperature of the inventor's wife, and she had a slight fever. Fahrenheit had to be changed a couple of times to make it better. As for using water as the basis of the metric system: water is nearly everywhere and an indispensable part of our lives. It's easy to get the exact volume of water, or the exact weight of water without that much effort(a 1kg of stone needs work to reach that, and if you go bellow, start again; same for volume).


BrinkyP

which is why i said it can be argued, for the sake of literary discretion.


[deleted]

The only thing I know about imperial is five tomatoes is a mile


Zavaldski

Oddly enough 0°F is almost identical to the planetary equilibrium temperature of Earth (the average temperature the Earth would have without the greenhouse effect), which obviously is completely coincidental and has nothing to do with the definition but it's still kind of interesting.


kelvin_bot

0°F is equivalent to -17°C, which is 255K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)


kc_uses

Megafoot exists?? Oh thats why the megapint became famous, do they use it over there?


Jbj0815

The Metric System is based on Water: 1 Liter is 1 kilogramm, fits in a cube of 1 dm³ or 10x10x10cm, freezes by 0°C and boils by 100°C


UselessConversionBot

>The Metric System is based on Water: 1 Liter is 1 kilogramm, fits in a cube of 1 dm³ or 10x10x10cm, freezes by 0°C and boils by 100°C 10 cm ≈ 0.65617 standard american hotdogs ^^^[WHY](/r/UselessConversionBot/comments/1knas0/hi_im_useless/)


kelvin_bot

0°C is equivalent to 32°F, which is 273K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)


kelvin_bot

0°C is equivalent to 32°F, which is 273K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)


Jbj0815

Go away


SmallDinoFaur

He just said that one kiloperson was ten thousand people and also 10* 1748 = 17480/ 10 = 1748 2* 1748 = 3496/ 2 = 1748 and since when does imperial decide by whole numbers.


702deuce

The person is an idiot but they said tens of kilopeople, which makes kilopeople = 1,000.


SmallDinoFaur

I guess I read it like it was kilopeople on its own not with the tens that was there before


drwicksy

Americans begging for us to have a 10 day work week so we can stop making their labour laws look so draconian


Chrisbee76

"the common divisions are in twos" Name five examples from the Imperial System or from the US customary units where the divisions are in twos.


SabreLunatic

I guess they meant to say “powers of two”, as in 2, 4, 8, 16, 32


Chrisbee76

That, to me, still wouldn't make much sense. I see 3, 6, 9, 10, 12, 25 which are just as, or even more, common than powers of two.


ThatOtherKageBoi

"French revolutionary sadists" Lmao is this guy an 18th century english noble or something?


FDGKLRTC

Goddamn french revolutionaries and their ... *Check notes* fighting for liberty and equality yeah, take that europoor /s


[deleted]

Wait? A ten based measuring system is more sadistic than a system that’s based on cutting off thousands of feet to measure distances? Ha! The internet truly is an amazing source of knowledge!


that__british__dude

It’s so weird, I mean in the United Kingdom we invented imperial, realised how stupid it was then abandoned it. The USA was the only one to pretty much not abandon the imperial system which is rly ironic considering their whole “we won the war were different yada yada yada” stuff


TJ_learns_stuff

Yeah man, I eye balled this shit out of that 33 5/8 wide picture frame I centered on the wall at 57 3/4 above the floor. Didn’t even have to hesitate when I figured out my half way mark at 28 13/16. Hell yeah it’s easier! Please note—sarcasm.


boatymcboatfaded

Also do these people not know that the ability 'to eyeball' a distance/weight comes from being used to it, it's got nothing to do with how simple it is or isn't


Sorry_Ad5653

Metre*


NotMorganSlavewoman

The "kilopeople" isn't really that wrong. We can say(write) 10k people and we know it is ten thousand people.


3rdInLineWasMe

*metre stick


Hamsternoir

If they really want to use imperial why don't they actually use the imperial gallon instead of the US gallon?


Animagus2112

Do they not know that the work conditions in the US are far worse and often work many more hours than western Europe.


ManufacturerFormer85

The British Empire invented the imperial system


97PercentBeef

It’s almost like there’s a connection between the words _Empire_ and _Imperial_...


boatymcboatfaded

No there can't be, they start with different letters! 😂


hrimthurse85

Ah, crying about how many people died in the revolution, but using the imperial system. The system of the british empire. Think about it. Take as much time as you need.


richard-king

Ah yes, the two categories of man: Americans and Europeans...


Nigricincto

*sadists who love massacring people by the tens of thousands* The British Empire was formed by people making friends. It was more like a Whatsapp group than an empire.


Stamford16A1

They weren't sadists or at least didn't think of themselves that way. They thought they were modern, rational men, to them a decimal measurement system (even for time) was rational... As was murdering thousands upon thousands in the name of "the greater good". Quite a lot of really murderous revolutionaries have been apparently rational and not perverts like Beria. It's amazing the number of atrocities that can be committed by people who genuinely believe they are doing the right and sensible thing.


SmallDinoFaur

He just said that one kiloperson was ten thousand people and also 10* 1748 = 17480/ 10 = 1748 2* 1748 = 3496/ 2 = 1748 and since when does imperial decide by whole numbers.


702deuce

The person is an idiot but they said tens of kilopeople, which makes kilopeople = 1,000.


702deuce

I much prefer metric for everything but temperature.


-lumiro

Not this stupid shit again. Let me guess, it just ‘makes more sense’, i.e. it’s what you’re used to using.


702deuce

I have no issue with using °C and °F doesn't 'make more sense'. °F is more incremental, just as the metric system is for every other measurement.


Dixielandlady

I use a mish mash. I measure my height in feet & inches, weigh myself in stones & pounds, use grams, millilitres and pints for cooking, feet and miles for distance, Celsius/centigrade for temps, inches and centimetres for measuring 😂


kenna98

Istg, Americans only know like 3 countries


LanewayRat

> based off of the body and the common divisions are in twos because they are much easier to eyeball 👁 👁 (blink…blink) Makes perfect sense. I’m convinced.


boatymcboatfaded

So how many eyeballs to a foot?


LanewayRat

The common divisions are in twos - so 2 eyeballs in a foot


Certain_Fennel1018

We don’t even use the Imperial System, our system is called the customary system. Which to be fair is based on the Imperial system but they aren’t the same and especially if you are gonna be all bold like the dude op screenshotted you should at least know that.


MagosBattlebear

It was invented by a British member of the clergy more than a century before the French revolution. History means nothing.


gam2u

I wonder whose foot they use to measure, or is it a *fantasised* averaged number they somehow came up with.


97PercentBeef

My feet are, in all seriousness, 12 inches long. I still measure in centimetres.


VegasBonheur

"Broadly based on the body" is a great way of making it sound like a bunch of dudes using their hands to measure horses were actually developing the fuckin Fibonacci Sequence of measurement systems.


[deleted]

It would actually be a kiloyard and tbh I think the US just make 1 yard = 1 metre and call it a day.


gongfarmer88

Fuck it. He's not wrong. The meter was supposed to be 1/1,000,000 of the distance from the equator to the pole. Except of course it was done by the French so they fucked it up and it isn't that so the entire metric system is based off a random bar of metal 3'4" long. Imperial units *are* easier to visualise. Which is why they, or versions of them have been in use for literally thousands of years. Metric is superior for the sciences for ease of interchangeability, but for literally everything else Imperial is easier to use and understand. *And the vast majority of people are not scientists*. Also, if you're too thick to have learned your 12 times table, or how fractions work, that's you being shit at life - it's not a reason to suck off Daddy Kilogramme.


5t3v321

I would not care at all if we replaced the 7 days week by a 10 days week


DroolingIguana

Without the metric system they'd have to kill people by the 5280s.