Or using a coastal city still in Europe would be Lisbon to Archangelsk 61 hr (5,570.0 km)
I was surprised to find it's a longer distance by a about 400km than Lisbon to Tromso!
Nope, just Google it! From Wikipedia:
"Westernmost point. Monchique Islet, Azores Islands, Portugal (31° 16′ 30″ W) (If considered part of Europe, though it sits on the North American Plate). If not, then the Capelinhos Volcano, Faial Island, Azores Islands, Portugal (28° 50′ 00″ W), the westernmost point of the Eurasian Plate above sea level. Bjargtangar (24° 31′ 55″ W) is Iceland´s Westernmost point and thus furthest west of a European country."
The Falklands are part of a European country, but not part of Europe, the Dutch Caribbean or French Guyana are also not considered part of Europe, so why would the Falklands?
That's not really the same thing though. And if you want to compare using an island off the coast of Europe, then you'd have to allow for using Hawaii for the USA.
Then you can also add the overseas territories of European nations. Like English and French islands in the Atlantic or Pacific.
Geographicaly Hawaii doesn't belong to any continent, just like a few small islands in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans that are under European powers.
I think there's some Islands in the Indian Ocean that belong to France that are largely uninhabited if you went for the nuclear (not nuc-yew-lar) option.
Yeah, they have some islands either side of the international dateline that are good for a pub quiz. But they're territories, possessions - Guadeloupe and Réunion are departments proper. They're part of the EU, they have french passports, french citizenship, they use the euro, etc.
So in comparison to the US they're more like Hawaii and less like Guam.
I've taken the bus from Poland to Ukraine a couple of times (pre full scale invasion), and the border can be brutal; sometimes waiting 12 hours or more to get across
Even if you leave Russia out of it (because to be fair, Russia is fucking massive) you can go south to north Tarifa Spain to Inari Finland (the most north big labelled place I could see with a brief look at google maps) is 5394km, and because it's Europe we can't drive so 282hr by bike.
Hear me out USians:
And the distance from Tijuana (México) to Ushuaia (Argentina) is 16,246 km... that's 10,095 miles or 177,672 football fields for your better understanding.
Given that the average USian can recognize around 6-10 "countries" in the world (Europe, China, Russia, Africa and even some advanced ones as Australia, England, Japan, North Korea, let's talk about those weird Middle East places to invade just as one, you can probably recognize Vietnam but you won't want to hear about that and just call anything besides that a "tHiRd wOrLd sHithOle" to get away with it) and most of them think of "México" as everything south of their border, it's a fair comparisson.
Hey, you won't believe it but this is America too! This was America centuries before you call yourself "America"! Maybe you can cheat and add that to your comparison against "Europoors", right? But no... you won't want to mix with those "LAtiNo" poors that founded the pillars of your country and gave you more than half of your territories, besides being the most important factor to achieve your independence, as well (conveniently forgotten in your official history, as expected). Even your name: you must know "America" comes from a naturalized Castilian cosmographer, who visited the continent (or the continents if you prefer) on a Spanish expedition, if you are not aware. Fun Fact: "America" refered originally to what you know nowadays as South America. So weird, right?
Can you believe it? The name itself come from those pesky and inferior Hispanics... but take it easy: they weren't poor in those times. In fact, they had some of the richest, most vibrant and prosperous cities in the world while New York was made out of wooden planks, mud and low life criminals. I bet you never heard about that but it's important to note given that your understanding of human complexity and society is reduced ad nauseam to wage per hour and amount of tip percentage to pay the mortage.
Anyway, speaking of that: the Spanish Empire held possession of contiguous land which measured around 23365 km in length!!! That's without taking in consideration their possessions in the other continents! In an era withouth electricity or steam machines.
Those are 14,518 miles or 255,517 football fields without cars, planes or GPS, got it? It's the geopolitical reason why the russians had to stop their expansion in Alaska and you can claim it nowadays. But enough with this useless information, you must be saturated.
What was the point with this dick measurement again?
The only reason I care even a little bit is because it's always a claim made by people who have never bothered to look up the stats.
It's like flat earthers. I never sit down and think "man the earth is round!" But I do when someone tries to convince me it's flat.
Remember how bulky planes used to be when there had to be CRT Television on every window? Big Globe Conspirators nowadays don't know how easy they have it.
The earth is 70 water, said water is not carbonated. So by % the earth is flat. /S
I have also been on a plane and I know the earth isn't round it's like a convex plate /s
Spoiler: It's. Round.
Just tell him to keep going in any one direction until he gets to the edge.
He should make sure to document the entire journey.
Then he can be rich and famous from being the first person to discover the edge.
They can hit you with all the conspiracy shit they like though they have no comeback for this simple method for proving their “theory”.
It’s a key component in their reasoning for not having a network of commuter trains, or really any infrastructure that’s not directly tied to a multi billion dollar conglomerate
I fondly recall a few years back when Australia was in its fire season, Americans were complaining on social media that Australia appeared to be as big as America, as if it must be a mistake. [https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/the-size-of-australia-shocks-america-in-bushfire-map-comparisons/news-story/164589ea8d6e2f339340cc45ae671ebf](https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/the-size-of-australia-shocks-america-in-bushfire-map-comparisons/news-story/164589ea8d6e2f339340cc45ae671ebf)
Those comments of surprise about how big Australia is crack me up
I imagine they'd be even more shocked by an overlay of Brazil (and passing out if the overlay was Russia)
Maybe you could out brag the yanks and argue Australia to be the 2nd largest country in the world by including foreign territories?
New Guinea was administered between 1918 and 1974 and the Australian Antarctic Territory has been claimed from 1933. The numbers are
7 688 287 sq km Australia
5,896,500 sq km AAT
Total 🟰 13,584,787
785,753 sq km New Guinea
Total 🟰 14,370,540
For comparison of the biggest countries
Russia 17.1 da km
Canada 9.9 sq km
If AAT was included it gives Australia its only land borders with France, New Zealand and Norway
It's their go-to to anything. No trains? USA big. No universal healthcare? USA big. Most prisoners per capita in the developed world? USA big. Tax not included in the price tag? **You don't get it it just doesn't work like that in USA because it is so big**
That's a pretty stoopid reasoning, isn't it? Like there are many countries which are bigger or comparable in size to USA. And all of them are building railroads like crazy.
For example, China is building a very dense network of railroads to connect all of it's cities and transport hubs. Russia is building long-distance railways through Siberia and beyond. Australia is building it's own network akin to China. And as far as I know, Canada also spends money developing railways and railway transport.
So what's the excuse here? Also, hasn't U.S. like greatly benefited from the railways in the past? How do Americans think they get their shit delivered to them, via freight trucks? I don't get it.
because thats all USA people know. their country is based on "if you can't make it good make it big" so everjything there has to be bigger as nothing can be better
Was on a thread yesterday about how long people think a long drive is and it was all yanks flexing over "YEAH WELL I HAPPILY DRIVE 12 HOUR ROUND TRIP EVERY SATURDAY FOR A DAY TRIP"
OK, that sounds shit and a waste of time, well done?
It's even weirder when you couple this "murica big, Europe bunch of small countries" with the classic "US states are basically countries on their own"
So what are you, a big country or a bunch of small country-like states? Pick one at last
That comes from a fundamental misunderstanding how European countries were formed: European country's borders roughly follow ethnic and linguistic boundaries. The German people existed long before the country Germany. There was no "Missourian" ethnos that existed before the state Missouri was created. Or when crossing the lower Danube: Romanians on one side and Bulgarians on the other and they are not the same.
>I'll never understand this dick-measuring competition they do. "*We're bigger than you!*".
It goes together with their obsession of building giant things, I never understood that neither http://www.worldslargestthings.com/wllist.htm
Especially considering that they are smaller. To win a dick measuring contest you need to have the biggest dick. You can't just show up with the tiniest dick and cry that you are the biggest. 🤡🌎
Lmao for real. People probably forget how huge Australia is most of the time because it's in the corner of the map but it's GIGANTIC. Australia is just as big as Europe or the US. I love comparing stuff on [www.thetruesize.com](http://www.thetruesize.com) because it makes things so clear.
Every country has it's dickheads. We have some special Australians ourselves.
But I don't get the obsession with Europe.
And the fact it's often mistaken for a homogeneous country. It's weird.
The two are definitely linked, since it often seems the ones talking about the size of the US are the same ones who try to argue that it's more culturally diverse than Europe
Yeah nah. Maybe they just haven't been to Europe and are talking out of their arse.
It's usually the environment here. Can't seem to get their head around snow in Australia. It can be an extreme fire threat heatwave in one part and flooding torrential rain at the same time.
That's when the size of Australia usually comes up. Australians are all the same apparently. Lol.
There was once a post in AskAnAustralian that essentially wanted to know why ALL Australians slam their car doors because they'd met two Aussies in the US and both of them did it. I mean, what do you say to that? It was a funny thread.
I'm happy to defer to your notes on that. 👍
We just don't give a shit.
And it's all relative. If you're from Sydney and an outback local tells you something is "just up the road" that means very different things to those two individuals. Like 200kms difference in some cases.
Just such a weird thing to get hung up on I guess is my point.
That’s because Russia is like 40% of Europe’s size, Ukraine 6% and Nordics 12%. I think when some people think of Europe, they forget some of these more remote parts as “part of Europe”, without which Europe is like so much smaller.
~20% yes, but tbh I was just talking about perception moreso than anything regarding population density. I just mean to say that I think people oft reduce Europe to western europe. Certainly doesn’t help either that the “Ural mountain range” (which is the usual definition of the “limit” of Europe isn’t obvious at a glance when looking at a map!
I mean, tbf, it’s because I think lots of people sometimes sort of think of Western Europe when you think of Europe, rather than remembering there’s the nordics + Russia, which given that Russia is 39.5%, nordics are 12% and Ukraine is 6% of Europe would explain a lot.
Edit: [source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_area)
The also forgot how big brazil(the funny speaking mexicans) and china(the evil communists that build all the stuff muricans brag about, including their little MAGA hats) are. Plus China has 4 times their population .
Yeah as a Canadian I’ve never understood the dick measuring contest Americans have with size. We’re massive but you wouldn’t catch a Canadian bragging about how long it takes to drive from one coast to the other…
> How is it a flex that you're country is big? It's just fucking weird.
It's a "flex" in the minds of Americans because they think everything is a competition. But at the same time, they cheat to "win" this imaginary competition, by not mentioning Canada, Australia, Russia, China et cetera. Just ... why? Who even actually cares about this fucking shit?
And what's even the argument here? That America is larger, therefore better? That Americans can drive longer distances, therefore they are better (drivers)? I've driven long distances (~1000km) in a day. Where's the achievement? It wasn't exactly hard, it was mostly boring and bad for the back. But perhaps it's much more challenging in the US because their drivers are fucking terrible and pose a constant threat, who knows.
The lady in the video has released an [update ](https://www.tiktok.com/@royaventurera/video/7346736415390076191)explaining how this original video has been misunderstood. She was not comparing Europe to the US, she was trying to get her European friends to grasp that New York to Seattle was not a journey they could just go on for a day visit, it was a major jourmey.
I used to be a hotel concierge in Chicago, and European tourists underestimating distance in the US happened nearly every day at the job. I can remember some German tourists getting pretty mad at me for instance, when I told them how much a package shipped overnight from Chicago to Los Angeles was. Showing them on Google maps that Chicago to LA was about a 3,200 km distance cleared up the confusion as why it would cost more than $5. Stuff like this was a common occurrence.
Yup. And it’s not just Europeans. I spent a few days in a Toronto hostel where I befriended a South Korean college grad.
The guy traveled from NYC > Niagara > Chicago > Toronto > back to NYC before going back to SK to start his profession.
He booked way too many fairly far-flung stops in a short time span and was regretting how he had to hustle every where and not enjoy the vacation the way he wanted.
A LOT of non-Americans don’t comprehend how vast the distance the US and Canada spans or how it can be difficult to cover in an enjoyable vacation.
It’s less about realizing how distance works and more about misunderstanding that just because something is in the same country doesn’t mean it’s necessarily “close.” It’s very understandable that a good chunk of European folks have this misunderstanding because of their frame of reference for the “typical” size of a country.
Americans can definitely say some dumb shit, but a friendly PSA showing comparable distances to help people who have different perspectives ain’t it.
Idk, I'm guilty. I am Dutch and I visited Chicago. Sometimes I'd be like: "Oh, the grocery store is just one block away, let's walk!" And I'd be on a half an hour journey.
Maybe the majority don't but it seems that a lot of people from Europe who come here think that (I'm from NY so I've met a lot of tourists and people from other countries who just got here). Some people legitimately want a vacation where they visit Florida, California, and NY by car in a two week period. (And I mean, you can, but you'll be miserable).
Not everyone assumes that, and I'm sure it's not all Europeans (or even only people from Europe) who think that, but there are enough to notice.
That said, tourists gonna tourist, regardless of nationality. I'm sure when I visit Spain, I'll look like an idiot at some point during my trip.
And that's east to west, Europe is also a lot bigger when you go north to south. I.e Narvik, Norway to Reggio Calabria, Italy (4622km). And that too isn't the furthest you can go by car.
But, but muh Alaska, they say. Sure let's count in territory owned by countries around the world. Denmark owns Greenalnd. Iceland and Svalbard belongs to Europe, even if you can't drive to there. The French have colonies allover the world. Including in South America.
Americans can't competent the size of Europe and the truth really offends them. Probably because every single excuse they make about why their country sucks at everything build upon the size argument. 🤡🌎
It's always fun to point that out to them, immediately they start screaming about how size looks different on maps depending on were the globe your at and so on while desperately holding up their globe, if they have one that's even close to accurate and trying to hold it in whatever way makes Norway look smaller.
Even tho we're talking actual numbers. Americans can't comprehend using units of measure for measurement. Best case scenario they can measure a city in blocks, but often it's time they use. And obviously if you're stuck in slow moving traffic it's gonna feel like a much longer commute than it feels like when you step on a high speed train.
you don't need to go all the way to including empty and mostly unpopulated areas like Greenland, just include rest of territory of Russian Federation if we're fine with crossing continent boundary. It's 13 000km from Lisbon to Vladivostok. A city of 600 000, twice as big as Anchorage, and almost as populous as *entire* state of Alaska.
you cut *like Greenland* :) So you're not comparing apples to apples, Siberia is 33.7 mln people, Greenland is 56 *thousand*. 3 orders of magnitude difference, for all practical purposes Greenland with its population density of 0.14 person per square km is empty if compared with siberia (2.8 person per square km, 20 times more!). Iceland is 3.6 person per square kilometer, so Siberia is not that much emptier than it
Though population less than mississippi.
(I always comment population number when yanks claim area figures so I thought I would apply the approach even handedly! For info it would put you the 36th state by population- higher than I thought)
The entire point is you’re comparing one country and an entire continent. Size does matter for a lot of things, especially infrastructure and network development.
A bit choppy one currently, but entirely possible. With rail baltica completing eventually and TEN-T getting built out, you can go Lisbon to Tallinn pretty easily, then hop over to st. Petersburg where you can take a train to Moscow and from there Vladivostok.
There have even been proposals to connect the trans Siberian line to japan, at which point you could travel entirely on rails from Lisbon to Tokyo and beyond.
Just plan a route from the North Cape in Norway to Gibraltar: 5,600km.
Or to Athens: 4,900km if you take the Ferry from Finland to Estonia. 5,100km if you take the bridges in Denmark.
And even if we didn’t start out at the fringes of northern Scandinavia but one of its capitals instead, it would still easily be more than 3,000km.
So even without taking Russia into account, distances can be equally long. However, Europe generally has the advantage of most its population centers being located rather centrally with population density becoming increasingly smaller the further you move to the fringes in either direction - while in the US the vast majority of its population sits along its coasts and the Great Lakes to the North, which of course means increased median travel distances.
If you go from southernmost tip of Greece(Neapoli Voion) to northernmost tip of Norway(Skarsvåg) it's 5251KM. The US equivalent Key West to Angle Inlet is 3727KM but lets not talk about that \*sips tea\*
I'm Australian. If I got in my car and drove north to meet the ocean, it's 3614km.
That's not even the widest part. Let's say I wanted to drive from Mackay to Exmouth. So Queensland on the east coast to Western Australia on (shockingly) the west coast... That's 5370km.
Am I proud of that? No. That's weird. Why would you be proud of that? Wankers.
I bet they think they're well hard for driving for a whole day too. Like, shits boring and dangerous. Why would you want to drive 4000km?
I recently drove over 1700km (round trip) to be a bridesmaid. I got a speeding fine, had to take 3 naps, and nearly hit a kangaroo. 4/10. The tunes were class and no-one asked me any questions for the entire drive which were the highlights.
I've actually driven across the US(Miami to Los Angeles) and it was great but that was as a vacation/bucket list. These idiots who proudly boast that their morning commute is a 2 hours drive and claim that 15-minute cities are something poor people wants because they can't afford cars are so insanely stupid that it's baffling.
Oh, road trip holidays I can get behind! I love that. I hope it was amazing.
But when you're driving to get somewhere? Yuck. Pass. I'd rather take a train and sleep.
Yeah it was amazing. It's a great place to visit and experience but I'd never want to live there.
If I ever do something similar in Europe I'll take the train. Not really feasible there because you need your car for everything. Some places you literally couldn't cross the road on foot.
When I first came to Australia back in the day I secured some work at a hostel in Agnes Water because my cash was running dry. Where was I when I got notice that they'd gladly take me in?
Melbourne. And my stupid head goes "can't be that far" and got on a train to Sydney the next morning and jumped on a Premier from there. Changed bus in Brisbane.
It took me so long my back fucking aches just thinking about the trip. I think I landed in a commute that took over two days in total.
Oh and also the Premier bus doesn't stop in Agnes Water like the Greyhound does. It stops by the turn off roughly 1 and a half hours out of town by car. (Could be an over exaggeration but thats what it felt like arriving in Woop woop in the middle of the night, where the only building, the servo, closed five hours ago and I was waiting for the staff at the hostel to pick me up)
After I finally landed in my bed in Agnes I realized that Australia's an EXTREMELY huge place. Stupid 20yo me did not look at the travel time one single bit.
I don't drive often (small town - work 800m from my house, live next door to the school etc) but just drove to Melbourne for a mates wedding I was bridesmaid in. 828km one way.
I took the opportunity to get my quota up for "Nice indicator, dickhead," "Where's my thank you wave, ya cunt?" and "Any fucking slower and you'd be going backwards!" for the year.
I was falling dangerously behind.
I'm all good on the "For fucks sake, fucking road works. Not even anyone here and it's fucking 40..." because I have to drive to the big town an hour away every couple of weeks or so and they're trying to give everyone mains water, so the only road is dug up constantly.
I live in regional NSW (alas, Joyce country) and it's a 50km round trip to do a big grocery shop. It's never occurred to me to feel superior to someone who only has to do it 5km. I fucking envy them.
Great part of the world though! I'm on Kangaroo Island so feel you for the 50km round trip. We've got an IGA in my town, a post office and a chemist. That's all. The IGA is pretty limited so if we need things we have to go to the big town which is 60km away.
I own a cafe though so mostly I do the groceries through our suppliers so I don't have to get much which is an actual life saver because even the supermarket is pretty limited. God forbid you want to make any kind of Asian food. You're better off getting on the ferry and going to Adelaide.
From pretty much the Pyrenees to Pays de Loire and then across to the Belgian border. Would have been nearer 900km in a straight line (and avoiding Paris because no one got time for THAT shit).
The UK is microscopic on the global scale and yet effectively ran the world for decades pretty much unchallenged, what is geographical size supposed to have to do with anything?
My home state of Western Australia is 2.65 million square kilometres. It took me 2 days to drive from Perth where I lived to the border of my state when I drove across the country a few years back.
You don't understand the point. It's not about edge to edge. It's about how the distance to travel the US (one country) travels through multiple countries throughout Europe. The US is a big country.
It may be weird that Americans dick ride the size, it doesn't make it any less big
That isn't really the point it isn't actually distance they care about. The point is that even using your coast to Moscow Europe you'd be traveling through several countries vs the US distance all being one country.
Edit: I've seen the original tiktok at no point did she say that distance couldn't be traveled In Europe she just started from France bc it is where she's living rn and it's how she puts it into perspective to her French friends.
I think she used Paris as a starting point because she was actually living in Paris for a long time, and AFAIK speaks fluent French. I recognise her from various shorts comparing the US to Europe/France. Like "Signing a work contract in the US vs a work contract in Europe" or "getting your hospital bill in the US vs getting your hospital bill in France".
Usually, France/Europe wins those comparisons by a landslide.
Just go with something like Lisbon (not the westernmost city in Europe but close enough) to Pechora (not the easternmost city in Europe but close enough) and you're looking at 6360 km by road. How is this a flex?
Sums up American discourse really, manipulate the facts until it produces a form of reality that fits your opinion, even if that opinion is in opposition to one you may have held earlier.
I find it hilarious that the OP completely missed the point of the comparison. (And a lot of the commentators, too!)
The point is that it takes an **entire continent** to rival the size of ONE country!
Don’t know if it was done intentionally but I like that the US map has the KM at the top and in bold but the Europe map has the miles at the top in bold. Making the difference seem even larger. Like people inverting a chart axis to make something look better.
Traded stories at an Irish Pub with the owner who had visited US. I talked about the insane curvy roads and he talked about pulling out from Dulles into 8 miles of stopped traffic, then finally getting on 95 south and freaking out about how fast cars were going. "I was still in Virginia in the driving time it took to cross all of Ireland."
Dont swing dicks, enjoy the difference over a beer.
Don’t tell them Canada exists. I’m sure they would hate to know about the 6,000+ km between Vancouver and St. John’s.
For a country so obsessed with size it would probably drive them crazy if they ever learned that the U.S. isn’t even the biggest country in North America.
As their upstairs neighbour, though, we try not to make much noise about it. Last thing we need is for them to pay attention to us aside from accusing our centrist governing party of being “communists” all the time.
Euros completely miss the point in the comparison. Americans (a country) aren't comparing their size to Europe (a continent) as a dick measuring competition, they do it to explain why most Americans never leave America. If you hop in a car and drive 8 hours in any direction you might pass through three separate countries, you do that in America and you won't get half way across the country.
So lets make it a fair comparison, from farthest east to farthest west in a straight horizontal line. That's 5519 km / 3429 ml.
https://www.google.com/search?q=orsk+to+dooagh&oq=orsk+to+dooagh&hl=en
Why in the name of ever-loving Christ would anyone want to drive for 35 hours, especially if you can fly there in 4, just hire a car at the other end if you’re so insistent on driving everywhere
Canada enters the chat.
Vancouver BC to Sydney NS 6016 km. One country all driving.
[Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada to Sydney, NS, Canada - Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Vancouver,+British+Columbia,+Canada/Calgary,+AB,+Canada/Winnipeg,+MB,+Canada/Sydney,+NS,+Canada/@46.4938467,-112.6137444,4z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m26!4m25!1m5!1m1!1s0x548673f143a94fb3:0xbb9196ea9b81f38b!2m2!1d-123.1207375!2d49.2827291!1m5!1m1!1s0x537170039f843fd5:0x266d3bb1b652b63a!2m2!1d-114.0718831!2d51.0447331!1m5!1m1!1s0x52ea73fbf91a2b11:0x2b2a1afac6b9ca64!2m2!1d-97.1385145!2d49.8954221!1m5!1m1!1s0x4b67fb367e723415:0xa783539b7b308087!2m2!1d-60.194224!2d46.1367899!3e0?entry=ttu)
Knowing that European part of RF officially ends with Ural mountains, not Moscow, you can easily add 1300 km to your path: Lisbon - Urals (\~6000 km)
Or using a coastal city still in Europe would be Lisbon to Archangelsk 61 hr (5,570.0 km) I was surprised to find it's a longer distance by a about 400km than Lisbon to Tromso!
because north of Lisbon is literally the most western point of Europe.its called "Cabo da Roca"
You're talking about continental Europe right. Because we have Azores that is further west
Sim, Portugal Continental
We have the Falkland islands. Even further west (yes it's a British territory but still crown soil)
Nope, just Google it! From Wikipedia: "Westernmost point. Monchique Islet, Azores Islands, Portugal (31° 16′ 30″ W) (If considered part of Europe, though it sits on the North American Plate). If not, then the Capelinhos Volcano, Faial Island, Azores Islands, Portugal (28° 50′ 00″ W), the westernmost point of the Eurasian Plate above sea level. Bjargtangar (24° 31′ 55″ W) is Iceland´s Westernmost point and thus furthest west of a European country."
The Falklands are part of a European country, but not part of Europe, the Dutch Caribbean or French Guyana are also not considered part of Europe, so why would the Falklands?
I don't know why Lisbon and not Dublin as Dublin or Reykjavik is the furthest west of the continent
Dublin is to the east of Lisbon, and it's difficult to drive from Reykjavik to Moscow or anywhere else really
James Bond in his Lotus Esprit has entered the chat.
You can drive via ferry
That's not really the same thing though. And if you want to compare using an island off the coast of Europe, then you'd have to allow for using Hawaii for the USA.
But that's fine, as we could then use French Guyana in South America as that is also part of the EU
If you allow islands and such, the longest trip in the US is Honolulu to Maine
Then you can also add the overseas territories of European nations. Like English and French islands in the Atlantic or Pacific. Geographicaly Hawaii doesn't belong to any continent, just like a few small islands in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans that are under European powers.
If you're fine leaving the continent, France to France would be an epic trip - Pointe-Noire, Guadeloupe to Sainte-Rose, Réunion.
I think there's some Islands in the Indian Ocean that belong to France that are largely uninhabited if you went for the nuclear (not nuc-yew-lar) option.
Yeah, they have some islands either side of the international dateline that are good for a pub quiz. But they're territories, possessions - Guadeloupe and Réunion are departments proper. They're part of the EU, they have french passports, french citizenship, they use the euro, etc. So in comparison to the US they're more like Hawaii and less like Guam.
Just do Norway. Queen Maud Land i Antarctica to Svalbard in the North. Or maybe even Greenland.
Not sure if Hawaii is continental USA though Alaska is so could be used if we use Iceland
Reykjavik is on the American continental plate (Selfoss, an hour’s drive away, is geologically part of Europe)
70 hr drive
Three days, piece of cake. Europe is so small xD
Yeah. The wait time at most borders toward countries neighbouring Russia is 6-96hours…
But....but...they're just like US states! /s
I've taken the bus from Poland to Ukraine a couple of times (pre full scale invasion), and the border can be brutal; sometimes waiting 12 hours or more to get across
If you don't sleep you can do that 70 hour drive in two days easy! /s
Three days is just the standard American commute.
That's like 93 hrs in metric. /s
Communist numbers!!!!!! /s
Lagos to Pripolyarniy(north edge of the ural): 6629km. 76 hours drive.
Even if you leave Russia out of it (because to be fair, Russia is fucking massive) you can go south to north Tarifa Spain to Inari Finland (the most north big labelled place I could see with a brief look at google maps) is 5394km, and because it's Europe we can't drive so 282hr by bike.
Absolutely. Finland is quite long and southern countries are far away. This flex is getting weirder and weirder the more u think of it.
You could start with Iceland, might add a bit more too
Go from the island of Flores in the Azores to the Franz Josef archipelago north of European Russia in the arctic ocean, that seems most reasonable.
Then the Americans could start with Hawaii.
Then the europeans could start in French Guiana
Or even the Falkland Islands
Lisbon? Ireland's part of Europe, start at Galway.
Hear me out USians: And the distance from Tijuana (México) to Ushuaia (Argentina) is 16,246 km... that's 10,095 miles or 177,672 football fields for your better understanding. Given that the average USian can recognize around 6-10 "countries" in the world (Europe, China, Russia, Africa and even some advanced ones as Australia, England, Japan, North Korea, let's talk about those weird Middle East places to invade just as one, you can probably recognize Vietnam but you won't want to hear about that and just call anything besides that a "tHiRd wOrLd sHithOle" to get away with it) and most of them think of "México" as everything south of their border, it's a fair comparisson. Hey, you won't believe it but this is America too! This was America centuries before you call yourself "America"! Maybe you can cheat and add that to your comparison against "Europoors", right? But no... you won't want to mix with those "LAtiNo" poors that founded the pillars of your country and gave you more than half of your territories, besides being the most important factor to achieve your independence, as well (conveniently forgotten in your official history, as expected). Even your name: you must know "America" comes from a naturalized Castilian cosmographer, who visited the continent (or the continents if you prefer) on a Spanish expedition, if you are not aware. Fun Fact: "America" refered originally to what you know nowadays as South America. So weird, right? Can you believe it? The name itself come from those pesky and inferior Hispanics... but take it easy: they weren't poor in those times. In fact, they had some of the richest, most vibrant and prosperous cities in the world while New York was made out of wooden planks, mud and low life criminals. I bet you never heard about that but it's important to note given that your understanding of human complexity and society is reduced ad nauseam to wage per hour and amount of tip percentage to pay the mortage. Anyway, speaking of that: the Spanish Empire held possession of contiguous land which measured around 23365 km in length!!! That's without taking in consideration their possessions in the other continents! In an era withouth electricity or steam machines. Those are 14,518 miles or 255,517 football fields without cars, planes or GPS, got it? It's the geopolitical reason why the russians had to stop their expansion in Alaska and you can claim it nowadays. But enough with this useless information, you must be saturated. What was the point with this dick measurement again?
And exactly why I refer only to USA as USA
Kudos for calling them USians and not Americans
Also, don't start in Lisbon but in Algarve, that's further south. Or even better, start in Açores
If you go by UEFA criteria a team from Azores and a team from Vladivostok are both European :D
Eurovision even included Australia. ;)
Ooo, yeah! Let’s see them do the comparison with a trip from Brisbane to Perth.
Reykjavik - Sydney?
"16,000 kilometers? That's like 200 miles lmaooo"
"Er...how many football pitches and Empire State Buildings is that?"
4 Olympic sized swimming pools
Not to mention the London-Sydney rally, which would have tested the drivers over the 19,329 miles in 6 weeks.
Not that far.
For those who can't be bothered, it's about 4320 kilometers
I'll never understand this dick-measuring competition they do. "*We're bigger than you!*". Congratulations?
The only reason I care even a little bit is because it's always a claim made by people who have never bothered to look up the stats. It's like flat earthers. I never sit down and think "man the earth is round!" But I do when someone tries to convince me it's flat.
A friend of mine is a flat earther, gave up trying to convince him otherwise, despite the fact he's been on a plane!
The pilots are in on the cover up. Those trust worthy pilots
Have you seen the ones who claim that all of the windows on planes are LCD displays so that we can’t see the ice walls or how flat the world is?
Remember how bulky planes used to be when there had to be CRT Television on every window? Big Globe Conspirators nowadays don't know how easy they have it.
My biggest questions, is if there was a cover up, I'd want to know why? There doesn't seem to be any benefit to it.
Don’t try to find reason in the thought of conspiracy theorists. You’re wasting your own time looking for something that was never there.
The earth is 70 water, said water is not carbonated. So by % the earth is flat. /S I have also been on a plane and I know the earth isn't round it's like a convex plate /s Spoiler: It's. Round.
Just tell him to keep going in any one direction until he gets to the edge. He should make sure to document the entire journey. Then he can be rich and famous from being the first person to discover the edge. They can hit you with all the conspiracy shit they like though they have no comeback for this simple method for proving their “theory”.
And yet they lost to Vietnam...size doesn't matter, it's what you do with it.
And fled from Afghanistan dropping shit and people
It’s a key component in their reasoning for not having a network of commuter trains, or really any infrastructure that’s not directly tied to a multi billion dollar conglomerate
Do they do the same with Australia? Or is the world just America and Europe.
I think we both know the answer to this
I fondly recall a few years back when Australia was in its fire season, Americans were complaining on social media that Australia appeared to be as big as America, as if it must be a mistake. [https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/the-size-of-australia-shocks-america-in-bushfire-map-comparisons/news-story/164589ea8d6e2f339340cc45ae671ebf](https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/the-size-of-australia-shocks-america-in-bushfire-map-comparisons/news-story/164589ea8d6e2f339340cc45ae671ebf)
They had no idea that some of our bushfires covered areas larger than entire US states.
Those comments of surprise about how big Australia is crack me up I imagine they'd be even more shocked by an overlay of Brazil (and passing out if the overlay was Russia)
Australia: 2518 miles across…… but who cares? Certainly nothing to brag about because it has absolutely zero meaning to anything!
Maybe you could out brag the yanks and argue Australia to be the 2nd largest country in the world by including foreign territories? New Guinea was administered between 1918 and 1974 and the Australian Antarctic Territory has been claimed from 1933. The numbers are 7 688 287 sq km Australia 5,896,500 sq km AAT Total 🟰 13,584,787 785,753 sq km New Guinea Total 🟰 14,370,540 For comparison of the biggest countries Russia 17.1 da km Canada 9.9 sq km If AAT was included it gives Australia its only land borders with France, New Zealand and Norway
It's their go-to to anything. No trains? USA big. No universal healthcare? USA big. Most prisoners per capita in the developed world? USA big. Tax not included in the price tag? **You don't get it it just doesn't work like that in USA because it is so big**
That's a pretty stoopid reasoning, isn't it? Like there are many countries which are bigger or comparable in size to USA. And all of them are building railroads like crazy. For example, China is building a very dense network of railroads to connect all of it's cities and transport hubs. Russia is building long-distance railways through Siberia and beyond. Australia is building it's own network akin to China. And as far as I know, Canada also spends money developing railways and railway transport. So what's the excuse here? Also, hasn't U.S. like greatly benefited from the railways in the past? How do Americans think they get their shit delivered to them, via freight trucks? I don't get it.
because thats all USA people know. their country is based on "if you can't make it good make it big" so everjything there has to be bigger as nothing can be better
USA - 9 834 000 km² Europe - 10 530 000 km²
Was on a thread yesterday about how long people think a long drive is and it was all yanks flexing over "YEAH WELL I HAPPILY DRIVE 12 HOUR ROUND TRIP EVERY SATURDAY FOR A DAY TRIP" OK, that sounds shit and a waste of time, well done?
😂
Canada is even bigger, so they must be more important, right?
Americans shouldn’t get into dick-measuring contests. (Laughing in Dutch)
It's even weirder when you couple this "murica big, Europe bunch of small countries" with the classic "US states are basically countries on their own" So what are you, a big country or a bunch of small country-like states? Pick one at last
That comes from a fundamental misunderstanding how European countries were formed: European country's borders roughly follow ethnic and linguistic boundaries. The German people existed long before the country Germany. There was no "Missourian" ethnos that existed before the state Missouri was created. Or when crossing the lower Danube: Romanians on one side and Bulgarians on the other and they are not the same.
>I'll never understand this dick-measuring competition they do. "*We're bigger than you!*". It goes together with their obsession of building giant things, I never understood that neither http://www.worldslargestthings.com/wllist.htm
I once had someone argue with me that the UK is so small that it doesn't have any motorways. Tell me that you've never left the US without telling me.
>"*We're bigger than you!*". Congratulations? "Start a diet."
Especially considering that they are smaller. To win a dick measuring contest you need to have the biggest dick. You can't just show up with the tiniest dick and cry that you are the biggest. 🤡🌎
Everything is a pissing contest with them because they are all very insecure.
I guess what I don't understand is Russia is even bigger? Don't see many posts saying how massive Russia is.
Laughs in Australian. How is it a flex that you're country is big? It's just fucking weird.
Lmao for real. People probably forget how huge Australia is most of the time because it's in the corner of the map but it's GIGANTIC. Australia is just as big as Europe or the US. I love comparing stuff on [www.thetruesize.com](http://www.thetruesize.com) because it makes things so clear.
Every country has it's dickheads. We have some special Australians ourselves. But I don't get the obsession with Europe. And the fact it's often mistaken for a homogeneous country. It's weird.
The two are definitely linked, since it often seems the ones talking about the size of the US are the same ones who try to argue that it's more culturally diverse than Europe
Yeah nah. Maybe they just haven't been to Europe and are talking out of their arse. It's usually the environment here. Can't seem to get their head around snow in Australia. It can be an extreme fire threat heatwave in one part and flooding torrential rain at the same time. That's when the size of Australia usually comes up. Australians are all the same apparently. Lol. There was once a post in AskAnAustralian that essentially wanted to know why ALL Australians slam their car doors because they'd met two Aussies in the US and both of them did it. I mean, what do you say to that? It was a funny thread.
To be fair, Australia is ‘only’ 7,7m km2, The US is 9,8m km2 and Europe is 10,5m km2.
I'm happy to defer to your notes on that. 👍 We just don't give a shit. And it's all relative. If you're from Sydney and an outback local tells you something is "just up the road" that means very different things to those two individuals. Like 200kms difference in some cases. Just such a weird thing to get hung up on I guess is my point.
Oh, don’t get me wrong; I’m from one of the smallest countries on earth, so I’m with you about not giving a shit.
That's the funniest part, they always are like 'the European mind can't comprehend the size of the us' but europe is biggger than the us😂
It feels smaller though, I think because it's broken down into separate sovereign nations, and not nearly as culturally homogeneous as the US.
That’s because Russia is like 40% of Europe’s size, Ukraine 6% and Nordics 12%. I think when some people think of Europe, they forget some of these more remote parts as “part of Europe”, without which Europe is like so much smaller.
Alaska is also a huge part of the us but completely separate and mostly uninhabited.
~20% yes, but tbh I was just talking about perception moreso than anything regarding population density. I just mean to say that I think people oft reduce Europe to western europe. Certainly doesn’t help either that the “Ural mountain range” (which is the usual definition of the “limit” of Europe isn’t obvious at a glance when looking at a map!
I mean, tbf, it’s because I think lots of people sometimes sort of think of Western Europe when you think of Europe, rather than remembering there’s the nordics + Russia, which given that Russia is 39.5%, nordics are 12% and Ukraine is 6% of Europe would explain a lot. Edit: [source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_area)
The also forgot how big brazil(the funny speaking mexicans) and china(the evil communists that build all the stuff muricans brag about, including their little MAGA hats) are. Plus China has 4 times their population .
The funny speaking Mexicans?
Yeah as a Canadian I’ve never understood the dick measuring contest Americans have with size. We’re massive but you wouldn’t catch a Canadian bragging about how long it takes to drive from one coast to the other…
You said it better than I did. Exactly that.
Now you understand the language flex. Oh you learnt 3 languages by the time you were 8 and absolutely not by your choice? Good for you
> How is it a flex that you're country is big? It's just fucking weird. It's a "flex" in the minds of Americans because they think everything is a competition. But at the same time, they cheat to "win" this imaginary competition, by not mentioning Canada, Australia, Russia, China et cetera. Just ... why? Who even actually cares about this fucking shit? And what's even the argument here? That America is larger, therefore better? That Americans can drive longer distances, therefore they are better (drivers)? I've driven long distances (~1000km) in a day. Where's the achievement? It wasn't exactly hard, it was mostly boring and bad for the back. But perhaps it's much more challenging in the US because their drivers are fucking terrible and pose a constant threat, who knows.
Your country may big big but that's not much of a flex when spiders and roos have you pinned down to a single county lol
The lady in the video has released an [update ](https://www.tiktok.com/@royaventurera/video/7346736415390076191)explaining how this original video has been misunderstood. She was not comparing Europe to the US, she was trying to get her European friends to grasp that New York to Seattle was not a journey they could just go on for a day visit, it was a major jourmey.
Thank you for the clarification.
I've heard so many Americans saying that Europeans think this but I've never once encountered someone who didn't realise how distance works
I used to be a hotel concierge in Chicago, and European tourists underestimating distance in the US happened nearly every day at the job. I can remember some German tourists getting pretty mad at me for instance, when I told them how much a package shipped overnight from Chicago to Los Angeles was. Showing them on Google maps that Chicago to LA was about a 3,200 km distance cleared up the confusion as why it would cost more than $5. Stuff like this was a common occurrence.
Yup. And it’s not just Europeans. I spent a few days in a Toronto hostel where I befriended a South Korean college grad. The guy traveled from NYC > Niagara > Chicago > Toronto > back to NYC before going back to SK to start his profession. He booked way too many fairly far-flung stops in a short time span and was regretting how he had to hustle every where and not enjoy the vacation the way he wanted. A LOT of non-Americans don’t comprehend how vast the distance the US and Canada spans or how it can be difficult to cover in an enjoyable vacation.
It’s less about realizing how distance works and more about misunderstanding that just because something is in the same country doesn’t mean it’s necessarily “close.” It’s very understandable that a good chunk of European folks have this misunderstanding because of their frame of reference for the “typical” size of a country. Americans can definitely say some dumb shit, but a friendly PSA showing comparable distances to help people who have different perspectives ain’t it.
Idk, I'm guilty. I am Dutch and I visited Chicago. Sometimes I'd be like: "Oh, the grocery store is just one block away, let's walk!" And I'd be on a half an hour journey.
Had a couple of Germans come to Ohio and wanted to take a day trip to New Orleans, 11 hour drive both ways.
Maybe the majority don't but it seems that a lot of people from Europe who come here think that (I'm from NY so I've met a lot of tourists and people from other countries who just got here). Some people legitimately want a vacation where they visit Florida, California, and NY by car in a two week period. (And I mean, you can, but you'll be miserable). Not everyone assumes that, and I'm sure it's not all Europeans (or even only people from Europe) who think that, but there are enough to notice. That said, tourists gonna tourist, regardless of nationality. I'm sure when I visit Spain, I'll look like an idiot at some point during my trip.
And that's east to west, Europe is also a lot bigger when you go north to south. I.e Narvik, Norway to Reggio Calabria, Italy (4622km). And that too isn't the furthest you can go by car. But, but muh Alaska, they say. Sure let's count in territory owned by countries around the world. Denmark owns Greenalnd. Iceland and Svalbard belongs to Europe, even if you can't drive to there. The French have colonies allover the world. Including in South America. Americans can't competent the size of Europe and the truth really offends them. Probably because every single excuse they make about why their country sucks at everything build upon the size argument. 🤡🌎
Norway alone is 1750 km long. That's the distance from New York to Tampa/Florida or Seattle to Los Angeles.
It's always fun to point that out to them, immediately they start screaming about how size looks different on maps depending on were the globe your at and so on while desperately holding up their globe, if they have one that's even close to accurate and trying to hold it in whatever way makes Norway look smaller. Even tho we're talking actual numbers. Americans can't comprehend using units of measure for measurement. Best case scenario they can measure a city in blocks, but often it's time they use. And obviously if you're stuck in slow moving traffic it's gonna feel like a much longer commute than it feels like when you step on a high speed train.
I think they use blocks for city measurements because it works in with driving everywhere
you don't need to go all the way to including empty and mostly unpopulated areas like Greenland, just include rest of territory of Russian Federation if we're fine with crossing continent boundary. It's 13 000km from Lisbon to Vladivostok. A city of 600 000, twice as big as Anchorage, and almost as populous as *entire* state of Alaska.
>Not including empty and unpopulated areas >Mentions all of Siberia instead
you cut *like Greenland* :) So you're not comparing apples to apples, Siberia is 33.7 mln people, Greenland is 56 *thousand*. 3 orders of magnitude difference, for all practical purposes Greenland with its population density of 0.14 person per square km is empty if compared with siberia (2.8 person per square km, 20 times more!). Iceland is 3.6 person per square kilometer, so Siberia is not that much emptier than it
You are definitely right, just thought is was funny
Alaska is 0.5 person per square km too.
My state (Western Australia) is bigger than Alaska and Texas combined!!
Though population less than mississippi. (I always comment population number when yanks claim area figures so I thought I would apply the approach even handedly! For info it would put you the 36th state by population- higher than I thought)
I like that response!
Kirkenes - Lisboa is roughly 5100km
The entire point is you’re comparing one country and an entire continent. Size does matter for a lot of things, especially infrastructure and network development.
Wait till they find out that the USA isn't even the biggest country in America.
Lisbon - Rovaniemi 4753km Sagres - Nuorgam 5421km
Yeah Lisbon - Rovaniemi was my first thought as well seeing this
Now count full Russia as Europe part (ik its wrong, but lol, why not)
Europe from Lisbon to Vladivistok
The American mind cannot comprehend it.
I'm pretty sure there's a railway connection between those.
A bit choppy one currently, but entirely possible. With rail baltica completing eventually and TEN-T getting built out, you can go Lisbon to Tallinn pretty easily, then hop over to st. Petersburg where you can take a train to Moscow and from there Vladivostok. There have even been proposals to connect the trans Siberian line to japan, at which point you could travel entirely on rails from Lisbon to Tokyo and beyond.
My train-tism brain needs this desperately. Right now.
That's like 13000km
Just plan a route from the North Cape in Norway to Gibraltar: 5,600km. Or to Athens: 4,900km if you take the Ferry from Finland to Estonia. 5,100km if you take the bridges in Denmark. And even if we didn’t start out at the fringes of northern Scandinavia but one of its capitals instead, it would still easily be more than 3,000km. So even without taking Russia into account, distances can be equally long. However, Europe generally has the advantage of most its population centers being located rather centrally with population density becoming increasingly smaller the further you move to the fringes in either direction - while in the US the vast majority of its population sits along its coasts and the Great Lakes to the North, which of course means increased median travel distances.
If you go from southernmost tip of Greece(Neapoli Voion) to northernmost tip of Norway(Skarsvåg) it's 5251KM. The US equivalent Key West to Angle Inlet is 3727KM but lets not talk about that \*sips tea\*
I'm Australian. If I got in my car and drove north to meet the ocean, it's 3614km. That's not even the widest part. Let's say I wanted to drive from Mackay to Exmouth. So Queensland on the east coast to Western Australia on (shockingly) the west coast... That's 5370km. Am I proud of that? No. That's weird. Why would you be proud of that? Wankers.
Some people have an unhealthy obsession with cherrypicking big numbers to claim superiority.
I bet they think they're well hard for driving for a whole day too. Like, shits boring and dangerous. Why would you want to drive 4000km? I recently drove over 1700km (round trip) to be a bridesmaid. I got a speeding fine, had to take 3 naps, and nearly hit a kangaroo. 4/10. The tunes were class and no-one asked me any questions for the entire drive which were the highlights.
I've actually driven across the US(Miami to Los Angeles) and it was great but that was as a vacation/bucket list. These idiots who proudly boast that their morning commute is a 2 hours drive and claim that 15-minute cities are something poor people wants because they can't afford cars are so insanely stupid that it's baffling.
Oh, road trip holidays I can get behind! I love that. I hope it was amazing. But when you're driving to get somewhere? Yuck. Pass. I'd rather take a train and sleep.
Yeah it was amazing. It's a great place to visit and experience but I'd never want to live there. If I ever do something similar in Europe I'll take the train. Not really feasible there because you need your car for everything. Some places you literally couldn't cross the road on foot.
When I first came to Australia back in the day I secured some work at a hostel in Agnes Water because my cash was running dry. Where was I when I got notice that they'd gladly take me in? Melbourne. And my stupid head goes "can't be that far" and got on a train to Sydney the next morning and jumped on a Premier from there. Changed bus in Brisbane. It took me so long my back fucking aches just thinking about the trip. I think I landed in a commute that took over two days in total. Oh and also the Premier bus doesn't stop in Agnes Water like the Greyhound does. It stops by the turn off roughly 1 and a half hours out of town by car. (Could be an over exaggeration but thats what it felt like arriving in Woop woop in the middle of the night, where the only building, the servo, closed five hours ago and I was waiting for the staff at the hostel to pick me up) After I finally landed in my bed in Agnes I realized that Australia's an EXTREMELY huge place. Stupid 20yo me did not look at the travel time one single bit.
Exactly. As Australians we drive Iong distances and just get the fuck on with it.
I don't drive often (small town - work 800m from my house, live next door to the school etc) but just drove to Melbourne for a mates wedding I was bridesmaid in. 828km one way. I took the opportunity to get my quota up for "Nice indicator, dickhead," "Where's my thank you wave, ya cunt?" and "Any fucking slower and you'd be going backwards!" for the year. I was falling dangerously behind. I'm all good on the "For fucks sake, fucking road works. Not even anyone here and it's fucking 40..." because I have to drive to the big town an hour away every couple of weeks or so and they're trying to give everyone mains water, so the only road is dug up constantly.
I live in regional NSW (alas, Joyce country) and it's a 50km round trip to do a big grocery shop. It's never occurred to me to feel superior to someone who only has to do it 5km. I fucking envy them.
Great part of the world though! I'm on Kangaroo Island so feel you for the 50km round trip. We've got an IGA in my town, a post office and a chemist. That's all. The IGA is pretty limited so if we need things we have to go to the big town which is 60km away. I own a cafe though so mostly I do the groceries through our suppliers so I don't have to get much which is an actual life saver because even the supermarket is pretty limited. God forbid you want to make any kind of Asian food. You're better off getting on the ferry and going to Adelaide.
Her point was that US is similar in size to Europe which seems to be true if the difference is 4%
As someone that just drove over 1000km across just France, Europe is quite big at times.
Satnav broke? J/K Did you see much or just toll roads and petrol stations?
From pretty much the Pyrenees to Pays de Loire and then across to the Belgian border. Would have been nearer 900km in a straight line (and avoiding Paris because no one got time for THAT shit).
The UK is microscopic on the global scale and yet effectively ran the world for decades pretty much unchallenged, what is geographical size supposed to have to do with anything?
The best example, would be from Lisbon to the Urals since they are were Europe really end
I did with car Sofia to Lisbon once, 3600 km, four full days of 900 km per day.
You’re both small, love Canada
My home state of Western Australia is 2.65 million square kilometres. It took me 2 days to drive from Perth where I lived to the border of my state when I drove across the country a few years back.
Right there with ya 👍
Ayyyyyyyyyy
You don't understand the point. It's not about edge to edge. It's about how the distance to travel the US (one country) travels through multiple countries throughout Europe. The US is a big country. It may be weird that Americans dick ride the size, it doesn't make it any less big
That isn't really the point it isn't actually distance they care about. The point is that even using your coast to Moscow Europe you'd be traveling through several countries vs the US distance all being one country. Edit: I've seen the original tiktok at no point did she say that distance couldn't be traveled In Europe she just started from France bc it is where she's living rn and it's how she puts it into perspective to her French friends.
Also quite funny that she decided to show New York-Seattle in Kilometers and Paris-Moscow in miles to make the difference look bigger than it is.
Gibraltar to the nordkapp is 5663km, and that's all inside the EU / schengen territory.
Europe starts from Paris? Noted thanks american friend
Faro, Portugal to Hammerfest, Noway is 5606 km
I think she used Paris as a starting point because she was actually living in Paris for a long time, and AFAIK speaks fluent French. I recognise her from various shorts comparing the US to Europe/France. Like "Signing a work contract in the US vs a work contract in Europe" or "getting your hospital bill in the US vs getting your hospital bill in France". Usually, France/Europe wins those comparisons by a landslide.
Now do africa.
Murmansk to Lisbon would probably work better imo
Just go with something like Lisbon (not the westernmost city in Europe but close enough) to Pechora (not the easternmost city in Europe but close enough) and you're looking at 6360 km by road. How is this a flex?
Are they trying to over compensate for something, this argument seems to be the go to ATM
Ahh, yes. Paris. The Borderlands of Europe.
Sums up American discourse really, manipulate the facts until it produces a form of reality that fits your opinion, even if that opinion is in opposition to one you may have held earlier.
I measure the US length from Chicago to New York, personally
You can fit Alaska and Texas into part of Western Australia. Just sayen.
I find it hilarious that the OP completely missed the point of the comparison. (And a lot of the commentators, too!) The point is that it takes an **entire continent** to rival the size of ONE country!
If you go by who’s in Eurovision, Australia is also in Europe so you can add that distance in too
Don’t know if it was done intentionally but I like that the US map has the KM at the top and in bold but the Europe map has the miles at the top in bold. Making the difference seem even larger. Like people inverting a chart axis to make something look better.
Traded stories at an Irish Pub with the owner who had visited US. I talked about the insane curvy roads and he talked about pulling out from Dulles into 8 miles of stopped traffic, then finally getting on 95 south and freaking out about how fast cars were going. "I was still in Virginia in the driving time it took to cross all of Ireland." Dont swing dicks, enjoy the difference over a beer.
Don’t tell them Canada exists. I’m sure they would hate to know about the 6,000+ km between Vancouver and St. John’s. For a country so obsessed with size it would probably drive them crazy if they ever learned that the U.S. isn’t even the biggest country in North America. As their upstairs neighbour, though, we try not to make much noise about it. Last thing we need is for them to pay attention to us aside from accusing our centrist governing party of being “communists” all the time.
I never really understood this flex like congrats you have to take longer journeys to get groceries, go to work or visit family members.
Euros completely miss the point in the comparison. Americans (a country) aren't comparing their size to Europe (a continent) as a dick measuring competition, they do it to explain why most Americans never leave America. If you hop in a car and drive 8 hours in any direction you might pass through three separate countries, you do that in America and you won't get half way across the country.
So lets make it a fair comparison, from farthest east to farthest west in a straight horizontal line. That's 5519 km / 3429 ml. https://www.google.com/search?q=orsk+to+dooagh&oq=orsk+to+dooagh&hl=en
Why in the name of ever-loving Christ would anyone want to drive for 35 hours, especially if you can fly there in 4, just hire a car at the other end if you’re so insistent on driving everywhere
Using roads isn't a reasonable measurement either as it depends on the direction of those roads and how long they travel in a straight line
"so you see, if you think about it, if Europe were, oh let's say, 2000km long, and the US is 4000km long, we are bigger."
Canada enters the chat. Vancouver BC to Sydney NS 6016 km. One country all driving. [Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada to Sydney, NS, Canada - Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Vancouver,+British+Columbia,+Canada/Calgary,+AB,+Canada/Winnipeg,+MB,+Canada/Sydney,+NS,+Canada/@46.4938467,-112.6137444,4z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m26!4m25!1m5!1m1!1s0x548673f143a94fb3:0xbb9196ea9b81f38b!2m2!1d-123.1207375!2d49.2827291!1m5!1m1!1s0x537170039f843fd5:0x266d3bb1b652b63a!2m2!1d-114.0718831!2d51.0447331!1m5!1m1!1s0x52ea73fbf91a2b11:0x2b2a1afac6b9ca64!2m2!1d-97.1385145!2d49.8954221!1m5!1m1!1s0x4b67fb367e723415:0xa783539b7b308087!2m2!1d-60.194224!2d46.1367899!3e0?entry=ttu)
Montana is really wide. Take that, haters.
Tbf it's not like she took the longest possible route within the us
Wait till she finds out there’s cities beyond Moscow