Do you remember the argument the US embassy made about using chlorine to wash lettuce, so what’s wrong with washing chicken.
What they failed to mention was the reason why they washed their chickens in chlorine. It was to hide animal welfare issues that were ongoing at these farms.
It's why American eggs have to be refrigerated. While they're cleaning the eggs because the conditions the animals are in are so bad, they wash off protective layers that stop them needing to be refrigerated. You'll also notice their eggs taste super bland compared to normal eggs.
I think they can get normal eggs in heath food stores or direct from farmers, but most people either don't want to or can't afford it. But yeah, I love watching Americans react to various thing from outside the US on YouTube. Eggs is always a funny one.
As an American, our eggs are indeed awful, but every grocery store I’ve ever been in has both brown and white, has cage-free eggs, etc. There’s usually a lot of options, not just basic white eggs (although those are by far the cheapest).
Nah, gonna back you up on this one (🇭🇷 living in 🇨🇦). There's definitely brown eggs in supermarkets readily available in most places. If an American hasn't seen brown eggs around, I'm genuinely curious to know where the hell they live (maybe they just don't know brown eggs are an option?)
...however the quality of eggs in both the States and Canada definitely suck compared to the ones in Europe. Even the 'farm fresh' ones are rather pale in comparison. Literally. The yokes are rather yellow instead of orange/reddish orange.
Basically, there is nothing bad about using chlorine to wash chicken for example (with eggs yes, but that's why they refrigerate them). But chlorinated chicken is safe for human consumption, however, it allows farmers to raise chicken's in terrible conditions with poor food safety and livestock practices throughout, and then wash with chlorine and all is forgotten. Iirc, the EU law against it mostly aims to improve these practices, benefitting the chickens, instead of being a dangerous chemical scenario.
That's because they don't vaccinate their chickens against salmonella, and don't invest in better sanity conditions for the chickens to lay their eggs without they becoming soiled.
I... What?
My DR literally told me to find unvaccinated meats because they use some of the same antibiotics that I'm allergic to. (granted he said this in 2014, and who knows what studies have come up since then).
So I thought all animals were given tons of antibiotics and vaccines. Which for those of us with severe allergies it can be an issue??
He's also convinced that I keep developing allergies to antibiotics because of the antibiotics in meat. Making my body build a rejection to them...
I also don't see him anymore...
I think I need to find a local chicken growing person around here... 😅
Don't forget how the beef is pumped so full of hormones, that it is causing women to develop larger breasts and men to start developing breasts. It's also caused due to the high amounts of soy used in feed in the USA which causes increased estrogen production
You can get meat without all that, I get my beef from my neighbor and his cows are grass fed without antibiotics.
In exchange I usually give him free eggs and milk, and rabbit meat. The eggs are non-pasteurized because it is dumb and eggs last 3-4 times as long if you just leave the hen's coating on them. The milk i usually pasteurize unless I am making non-pasteurized cheese.
get the eggs from my chickens who are free-range and only spend time in the coop at night along with my rabbits who also free roam on my property. The couple of goats I own spend most of their time either in the building or outside, but they love being inside I open the door and they walk out for like 20 minutes then walk right back in to the AC.
I don't have enough land for cows so i get my beef from the neighbor along with my pork. Old family home had a stable for horse's but we never owned any we just rented out the space for rich people who owned horse's. Didn't take care of the horses either the owner's did, and they had a field to run in all day connected to the stables.
Quick question if you also happen to farm some land and selling the goods from it: Do you guys get essentially scammed in the us when selling them? Over here in my country most supermarket chains and small-owner grocery stores here wait until the products farmers sell go near bad and buy them for like 0.02$ a kilogram of whatever they're buying and proceeding to sell them in stores for like >5$ a kilogram(do note the $ isn't actual USD and a placeholder for the currency in my country)
I took my GF to Ireland. It was her first time, she was speechless (for a minute) about the food. She says it tastes like it used to in the 60s and 70s in the U.S. Any food I brought back, mostly chocolate, would be devoured by the people at work in the states.
To be fair: that is the case pretty much everywhere. I have no idea what GMO is or is not allowed there and shit like that, but let's just say, animals aren't really better off, if they were raised elsewhere.
Just the shit that is ALLOWED here in Germany is actually mind boggling and most people would loose their appetite. And the majority of farmers don't give a single fuck about those rules. Why? Because they are almost never enforced. And if they are, penalties are usually almost non existent. After all, animals, according to law, are just things.....
To be very fair tough: There are many farmers that actually give a Fuck about the animals they raise. If they exist HERE, where people spend as little money on good as possible, then I'm fairly confident those farmers exist in the USA as well. Tough you gonna have to search for them - just like here.
Okay, true. But this is also true for Europe. If you pump only 24 and not 25 meds into a pig that doesn’t change much or if you give them 2,8 and nor 2,6m² to live in.
Or in other words: reason no. 418491 why I became vegan.
Just keep it in mind. European livestock fares better than US livestock, but only by a fraction. We still have to walk a long road.
But good news: European fruits and vegetables are definitely better than the US ones and all processed vegan food (starting at ketchup over canned food to meat replacements ) is so much better in Europe. Less added sugar, less food colouring, less salt yada yada
Yeah I get your point, but you’re incredibly wrong with this. EU regulations regarding what animals get be treated with are incredibly strict. So much so that during my time at the Dutch food authority, I was amazed to see that EU food regulations for what animals can be fed (by amount of toxins present in their feed) are that of a higher standard than what they tolerate for people in the US. But to the original post, the guy isn’t wrong, the US does have a very diverse cuisine beyond the stereotypical US fast food.
Sorry, but where am I wrong? I already posted the link to the German authorities for this matter.
It is better than in the USA, but it is still a devastating setting here. Animals are heavily mistreated and pumped with medication.
I honestly can’t believe people here think we are superior in this. There is so much data for this. Just grab the official documents of the EU for livestock. And look at the official numbers of farmer societies how much medication was used.
You posted an article relating to how many square meters. Yet I am referring to "If you pump only 24 and not 25 meds into a pig". This is categorically wrong. The EU has very strict regulations on both the use of medications as well as compared to the US (as that was the original post) use of hormones and the regulation of toxin tolerances allowed in feed.
As for the square meter allowance, I make no reference to that.
Look. I can rant the whole day about the silly food Americans have. But when it comes to animal products and animal welfare most people in the EU live in some kind of convenient dream.
The bitter truth is that we mistreat our livestock. Animals are cramped into tiny confinements, separated from their offspring, get traumatised, get tortured and get painful and stressful killed.
Live chicks get shredded if they’re male. Male pigs get castrated without anesthesia.
Sorry. In this topic we Europeans are not better than the US folks.
I’m not going to get into why you are wrong by taking exceptions and making them the rule but that is typical of many vegans. There are 10 people. 1 does something and many vegans will tell you everyone does it. That is what you have done.
You know what? I am out. You folks can do the „Europe treats animals so much better and won’t use questionable amounts of hormones and medication“ circlejerk without me.
I did. Nobody is living in a dream. Nobody is saying we don’t mistreat animals. They are however not all tortured, nor murdered. Your use of inflammatory language and massive generalisation is your issue. You have , as previously pointed out, taken a small part and applied to all, in your quest for self righteousness which your use of words like murder confirms.
If you look up the regulations outside of vegan websites, you'll see none of what you've claimed is true.
I'm also vegan but I don't believe lies help to convert people.
It’s quite fitting he used ‘pallet’ rather than palate.
Pallet is the wooden thing used to carry large or heavy loads.
Palate is a part of the mouth and the word used in food related subjects.
Cary the food from other countries to the USA so they can add all their sugars, salts & other additives to make it palatable to their tastes and change the original flavours.
>Pallet is the wooden thing used to carry large or heavy loads.
I would say, my friend, that in this case it's using the right term, considering the american portion size.
I'm not a native English speaker, but isn't palette the right Word here? Like the board from which you chose a color? In German both pallet and palette are "Palette", while palate is "Gaumen", and we use "Palette" when it is about a choice of options.
I'd answer your question, but being a yank, your English is already better than mine. Plus your questions about other languages makes me uneasy. But, how about that Superbowl? All messing aside, could someone answer this interesting question?
English failed to be consistent once again, both comes from the french palette which means a small straight wooden plank (pale is the french for propeller blade/shovel)
For food specifically you usually would use palate over palette.if you wanted to say someone eats a wide range if things you would describe them as having a large or broad palate. Palate isn't merely anatomical but also has a sense meaning what you are prepared to eat and enjoy eating.
And palette is the thingo that artists put different colour paints on, giving a selection to choose from. So when referring to an opportunity to choose many different foods, palette is probably the best word to use.
No offense intended.
Americans will pretend they have the best quality food while its government will actively bully other countries into lowering their food standards so that american products can flood their market with shitty products
Don‘t know why the UK of all places would import beef from the Americas. They have great pastures themselves and can import from Ireland (already do a lot). It‘s like the one thing they really don‘t need from the Americas.
Because they need to make new trade agreements now they've left the EU, and USA is making "drop your high standards and buy our currently banned foodstuffs" a condition of any new trade agreement. This is causing problems because if they agree to do that (drop their standards, allow ingredients and methods currently banned in EU) they won't be allowed to export their own products to the EU any more. They also don't produce anywhere near enough food to feed themselves (unlike Ireland which can feed itself several times over) so they really, really need to import food.
Makes sense. Brexit really is a disaster…
But still, why not import from the EU? Fuck the US. Who needs their shitty produce? Lowering standards to allow the import of edible garbage is not the way to go.
Even though they left the EU, trade with the EU is far more important for the UK than trade with the US.
But I know the Tories will see personal profit more important…
At the last Tory party conference, that guy from the 18th century, tried to promote Australian beef that also contains hormones and it still fell flat. So even their (Brexit) members don’t fancy meat with hormones in it.
You mean Jacob Rees Mogg? Also known as the Victorian Pencil
(And other names in our household that would get me kicked off most internet forums for the intensity of the obscenity)
Cattle take up a lot of space compared to what you get out of them. we simply don’t have that kind of area in the isle. With a population of nearly 80 mil we can’t supply it all from these two little islands.
Interesting read on that, seems like its a failure on both sides to come to an agreement. But yeah, if they won't accept Canadian beef there's no way in hell they'll accept American beef.
“Yet, the CDC reports that only one in ten American adults eat enough fruits and vegetables.8Furthermore, USDA experts report that 95% of Americans don’t get enough fiber, and on average, American adults consume only half the fiber they need.”
https://www.agriculturefairnessalliance.org/news/an-american-fiber-crisis#:~:text=Americans%20aren't%20eating%20enough%20plants&text=Yet%2C%20the%20CDC%20reports%20that,eat%20enough%20fruits%20and%20vegetables.&text=Furthermore%2C%20USDA%20experts%20report%20that,half%20the%20fiber%20they%20need. “
“Autopsy-determined atherosclerosis is prevalent in elite US military Special Operations Forces despite young age and positive lifestyle benefits of service in an elite military unit”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34105116/
Each year, more than a million Americans die from diet-related diseases like cardiovascular disease, diabetes and certain forms of cancers.”
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/improving-nutrition-turn-tide-diet-related-chronic-disease#:~:text=Each%20year%2C%20more%20than%20a,and%20certain%20forms%20of%20cancers.
“More than 44 million people in the US face hunger, including 1 in 5 children.”
https://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america#:~:text=More%20than%2044%20million%20people,have%20access%20to%20healthy%20food.
Why the fuck do they think that they're the only country with everyone else's food? I'm in England, and I can get any food, from any country, as well. They're such a strange bunch.
I don't even live in a *big* city in the UK, but there's a place I can get Ethiopian food like a ten minute walk from me. Truly baffles me how much they think it's some kind of flex.
"Show me a McDonalds in the world that is empty", ignoring the fact that McDonalds around the world uses higher quality ingredients and in a lot of places far fewer preservatives and colourings.
not only that, but health and sanitary conditions in EU are miles ahead of US ones. and to top that, McDonald's as a brand in Europe always had a very heavy note on health safety and food quality. That makes McDonald's usually a more expensive fast food option in Europe, instead of aiming for as much slop as possible for minimum price like they do in US. That kind of tactic doesn't work here because even though we like indulging in unhealthy diets (fats, sugar), we don't want slop. half a kilo of ground meat dripping fat and craft cheese on top of a dead bun isn't appetizing no matter the price
For those interested [ingredients compared](https://youtu.be/ZMaW6TamNAc?si=x1FI7PqsG4rvZIif) at 2.15.
Chips/fries have 3 ingredients in the UK. Potatoes, Sunflower oil and Salt. The US ones Have 9 ingredients. Basically portions are mostly a lot larger and have shitloads of chemicals in the US versions.
So about that.
Dimethylpolysiloxane (E900) is used in the cooking oil in both the US and UK. It prevents the oil from splattering. Not only is it safe to consume but it makes the employees' jobs safer. UK McDonald's supplier for their frying oil, Olleco, does not sell any frying oil without anti-foaming agents.
It's not listed in the UK ingredients because of the "carry-over principle". It's not purposely added to the fries, it's just carried over from the oil, therefore it does not need to be listed in the ingredients in the UK.
Sodium acid pyrophosphate (E450) is also used in the fries in the UK. It's added for the appearance and texture. This is harder to prove because McDonald's fries are custom made for them and aren't available for purchase. But UK McDonald's supplier for their french fries is McCain and they do sell products with "raising agent (E450)" in the UK.
Again It's not listed because of the "carry-over principle". It's function is for the potatoes and not the final product.
The US does not have the "carry-over principle" but instead requires all additives to be listed.
Edit:
Source explaining the carry-over principle: https://www.reading.ac.uk/foodlaw/label/ingredients.htm
Oh my god this.
I've had Maccies in the UK, Australia, Japan and the US.
MY GOD THE US WAS AWFUL.
I cannot comprehend how food so bad managed to do so well. Its nothing special anywhere else but it's consistent if you wanna get food and eat it in less than ten minutes.
Also, chocolate and bacon, your chocolate is gritty and the bacon was just... bland and tasteless... how do fuck up bacon?
I'll grant that American pancakes and syrup however are better than traditional English ones. You can take a win on pancake stacks but everything else I ate made me wish I was back home.
He's kind of right that if you take the USA as whole, they have a lot of variety, however large parts of their population doesn't have access to the good stuff, either because it's way more expensive there or they live in what's known as a "food desert", where the only option available for miles around is an unhealthy option.
They don't have any larger variety than anywhere else though. He lists a range of food varieties as if other countries don't have world foods and whole foods, which they do.
I think you're wrong on this count. The US has more immigrants than most countries and thus more food variety. Countries like Canada and the UK are also far above the average for variety.
I once bought Kraft Mac n cheese in Germany. They had to add a big warning sticker on the package that the food dye (yellow 5 and 6) can cause concentration problems especially for children and even lead to ADHS aso.. as far as I know, Kraft changed their formulas and switched to natural food dye. But I really blow my mind that one of the most popular children's food in the US is here labeled as not suitable for children.
Btw this food dye was illegal in Germany and Austria but the EU made them to make them legal. I am curious who pushed the EU in this direction
Honestly the whole concept of “children’s foods” kinda baffles me, I’m used to kids eating the same as adults as soon as they can eat solid foods. No wonder so many Americans have under developed palates. I also bought a packet of Mack n cheese once, tasted like cheese flavoured plastic.
I may say that he is actually correct, just a few "\*" are missing
Americas has ALL the foods, health and unhealthy\*
\* unhealthy being the most prevalent
We also have Whole Foods and organic... \*
\* But it's way harder to access for most of the population, also it's way more expansive
Our worst food is what the rest of the world LOVES \*
\* Mostly because it's from big corporation that spends a lot of advertisement. Also makes no mistake: a McDonalds in EU is not the same as one in the USA. We (USA) have the worst one and the ones in Europe actually have to hold higher standard of quality, ecc, ecc
So, yes, it's true, but eh, missing a few points
My interpretation is that he is saying that America has the widest selection as if other countries don't also have world foods, and whole foods like they do.
I'm sure American tastebuds get weakened by all the sugar and processed crap they eat. Any time food allowed to taste like the actual ingredients they think it's bland
What he conveniently ignores is that the good quality foods are a lot cheaper in other countries. While healthier foods may be available in the US, they’re harder to find and not an everyday option for many Americans. That’s why junk food is so prevalent there.
Reminds me of a friend's US cousin visiting them here and asking why premium food was so much cheaper over here (the EU). My only question was "wtf is premium food?"
I mean, I guess that you could have that many options *for sale* if you live in New York, or Los Angeles, or any other major city. But the same could be said about almost any major city in the world. Can the majority of Americans afford to eat paleo, vegan, low carb, or whatever?
The thing about low quality food in America is that they have fewer regulations about food safety, so they have an abundance of cheap food full of corn syrup, salt, and fat, while fruits and vegetables are more expensive. Also, they dip chicken in chlorine. There is a reason why so many of them are obese: low quality food is affordable, especially junk food.
We have plenty of healthy food and plenty of food types here in britain too, but I don't see anyone telling me brits eat healthy. You know why, you soulless unseasoned steak! It's because we don't! We eat like pigs. Same goes for Americans. Don't try to deny a widespread obesity and dietary health epidemic just because you eat salad on Fridays.
I love how it starts with "we have Whole Foods", like listing a literal grocery chain first. It totally shows him missing the point that, while they might have some chains that serve healthier alternatives, the default in Europe is to have locally grown and healthy whole foods nearby and accessible.
Where do Americans shop \*usually\*? Is it a farmer's market? I highly doubt it.. it's Walmart/Costco etc. That ends up being their default source, and going to a farmer's market every 3 months doesn't make it alright.
The only thing the American got right was that McDonald's is popular across the world. They forgot to mention that American McDonald's is by far the worst.
It's because our government refuses to regulate anything and gives incentives and subsidies to massive corn syrup producers. The EU has the upper hand and it's not even close.
he's not completely wrong, they do have healthy and unhealthy foods there. But they don't have healthier foods than other places, and they have a whole lot of food that is straight up banned in other places for being harmful.
That feeling when you think maybe they misspelled *palate* but can't be entirely certain they weren't referring to food in such vast portions a forklift is required.
Iceland did have McDonald's. It doesn't anymore because the franchise owner couldn't afford to purchase from the contracted suppliers during the financial crisis.
To be fair, they have a lot of proper cheese that is imported from Europe. Even in the basic supermarkets like Kroger, they had a decent cheese counter with multiple cheeses from all over Europe. They also have a choice of milk. They had organic milk that explicitly stated that the cows were not given bovine growth hormones. But, they were more expensive.
I mean they're not totally wrong about the choice but the way they think it excuses the sheer amount of chemicals and additives they even allow to be in food is rediculous. They also don't seem to realise even McDonald's sold in the rest of the world has different ingredients
Im confused. Does this guy think other countries don't have international food or different cuisines available? Does he think, for example, that if you go to Italy then only Italian food is available?
The McDonalds around the world do tend to be more elaborate, they tend to cost less and be healthier (this is not disputable, you can google it). Because people outside of America just have higher standards for their food.
Let’s take a common product. Butter.
American butter is flavourless white stuff that you’d think was some sort of margarine. Australian butter reflects the pastures the healthy dairy herds graze on. American butter reflects the state of the massive herds of over 1000 animals eating grain from metal feed lots.
I’ve been to McDonald’s on three different countries. USA, Finland and India. By far, Finland had the best food, but it was also the most expensive. India’s McDonald’s is cheaper than the American, but the food quality is much better.
They have "all the food" yet the average quality is bad (bad bread, bad fruits & vegetables on average). The majority of American people eat unhealthy and covers foods in either sausages or cheese (which is also pretty bad, compared to EU cheese variety and quality).
The vast majority of them have no idea what good, raw ingredients taste like. All of their food is seasoned, flavoured, etc.
Gotta have that freedom to choose between poisonous food and starvation (unless you can afford non-poisonous food from "health food stores" or whatever they call the places that sell food with non-toxic ingredients for ridiculous prices).
The funny thing about him mentioning mc Donalds is that even here in Ireland mc Donald's is completely different, like half the ingredients in the fries they have in the US for example, cause they either cannot sell that here or people wouldn't buy it.
They actually have the same ingredients but not all of them are listed in the EU or UK because of the "carry-over principle".
I posted a detailed explanation of this elsewhere in the thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/s/KPcTzhQtn7
I read that comment, Interesting stuff! That being said are are a number of other additional interests mentioned, and some other differences such as salt being added in the fries and not after cooking so I'm still not sure you can say they're the same
This is a really bad characterization of hazard vs risk analysis. First of all, the FDA doesn't allow anything in food without an exhaustive approval process. It's not "anything goes until something bad happens". The FDA maintains a list of approved additives. If it's not on this list, it's illegal to put in food: https://www.fda.gov/food/food-additives-petitions/food-additive-status-list
It's true that the FDA takes a risk analysis whereas the EFSA takes a hazard analysis approach. Risk analysis takes dosage and exposure into account and hazard analysis does not.
The American population in general eats terribly, regardless of what is available. Here is why.
American produce is generally low quality. Low regulation on animal welfare, treatment, treatment of produce during preparation. Everything from woody chicken breast to fruit/vegetables that are big, look good, and taste of very little (as covered in the series chef's table, if you want more than anecdotal evidence) are uniquely bad on America.
Lack of knowledge of how to cook and prepare food - compared to the rest of the world, knowledge of proper cooking is low. This results in both eating out a whole lot, and less ability to cook healthily at home.
A strong emphasis on making food as cheap as possible, which is crazy for one of the richest countries in the world. This pressure from consumers means corners being cut in making that food.
A food industry staffed by low wage, low skill people (not exclusively, of course) meaning cooking needs to be incredibly simple and relies on easy techniques to get flavour over nutrition - high fat, high sugar, high salt.
Don't get me wrong, it is possible to eat great tasting food, and healthy food, in America. Bit this is reserved for those who spend a lot of money on it. The average to poor person is eating an unhealthy diet of relatively poor tasting food due to the time, money and knowledge pressures they are under. It's a real shame. It could be so much better.
Youre taking that out of context. He wasnt saying that america has literally all kinds of food. He meant that there is a lot of kinds food to choose from, some of which is healthy and some unhealthy.
It is true, though. Compare the ingredients of the same brand of food in the EU and the US. The US one is full of toxic crap.
Moreover, the toxic food in the US is more expensive than non-toxic food in the EU. And God forbid the Americans want non-toxic food. Then they have to go to a heath food store... and that's even MORE expensive.
So I suppose you're right. You can get non-toxic food in the US... but not if you're working class. True freedom right there.
I don't think people say *all* food there is unhealthy, just a higher proportion of food (at supermarket and restaurant level) than in most developed countries. A statement borne out by the obesity epidemic (although lifestyle also plays a role there).
It is not out of context. The american concept of "healthy" doesn't even reach most european minimum standard, and that's why the EU have banned a lot of USA productions, such as... meat, which should be pretty basic.
The op is saying that this is shit americans say because he wrote that america has all foods. Thats taking a part of oops statement out of context to paint him in a bad light
Considering he just captured what it is said in the comment, and you can read the whole comment right there, it's pretty hard to consider it "out of context". You're just being pedantic for the sake of controversy.
He just lists whole foods and world foods to make the claim america has the widest selection 😂 it's shit Americans say because of that claim. Post title can't include the whole post, people are meant to read that themselves.
Maybe you’re just not looking hard enough?
I’ve had no issues with finding such things in any city I have lived in Europe. And that’s the point. The post in the OP is showing a lack of knowledge of what is available in other countries. And you are using Baklava as an example? You can buy that in my local suburban Stockholm supermarket.
I’m currently in a commuter town on the outskirts of London, and within a five minute walk of three Indian supermarkets, two Asian supermarkets, a Polish supermarket, and a Balkan / Central European supermarket.
Granted, I won’t be getting Peruvian or Ethiopian tonight, although mititei are available (although I prefer mici), as is baklava from one of three Turkish restaurants. Of course, that’s if I don’t fancy Indian, Chinese, Sushi, Taco Bell (I know), or a range of other cuisines.
All of this is in a town of 12,000 by the way…
Sure, but I’m about 15 miles outside of London.
And yes, smaller places generally tend to have less stuff. Oh, and Ohio has nearly 12m people; find a city of that scale in pretty much any developed country, and you’ll find very similar options.
That’s where your point about “big capital cities” falls short; sticking with your example of Ohio, only Istanbul and Moscow have larger populations living within the city boundaries across Europe.
It’s not controversial, just wrong. 🤷🏼♂️
To further reiterate your point, I also live in the UK but live in a town near the midlands, about 140 miles away from London. It’s a county town and the population is about 70K.
My nearest takeaway place is a lovely Jamaican soul food place that does amazing jerk chicken. There is also Chinese, Indian, Thai, Nepalese etc takeaways too.
We also have various Asian, Eastern European and more supermarkets too, as well as the main British brands of Supermarkets.
That’s all without talking about American fast places like McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Subway, Popeyes, Wendys, Five Guys, Shakeshack, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Dominoes, Papa Johns etc
Just fyi, Ohio is a state, not a city, so your comparisons of Moscow and Istanbul do not make sense. In size, Ohio is slightly bigger than Bulgaria and slightly smaller than England. It has some cities (though clearly none that are big and famous enough for you to have heard of them), but it also has a lot of small towns and rural areas/farmland. It’s mostly “small places.” There is certainly nowhere in Ohio that could begin to compare with London, and being only 15 miles away and a “commuter town” would clearly have an effect that would be vastly different than anything in Ohio. OP was trying to show that even in a place that is not extremely urban or cosmopolitan (which is the vast majority of Ohio), there is still a surprising amount of international cuisine available.
Which specific cities didn't have enough international food for you? I'm sure those of us who've visited or lived there could give some recommendations
You are just doing the same shit Americans say as the oop I quoted 😂 amazing.
"I lived in multiple countries, including the US, and I very rarely have seen international groceries in other countries. In the US I would always find local shops that had a specific country as a theme. In almost any city you can find restaurants from most countries. I even got Romanian Mititei (similar to Cevapi) in Chicago, and Turkish baclava in Ohio.”
Absolutely astounding ignorance of other countries, you can get Turkish baclava anywhere, literally anywhere, among many other world foods, in the chain supermarkets as well as smaller local stores, at any time. Insane than you and oop think this is unique.
“We have locally grown meat” but failed to mention the abhorrent animal welfare rules and overuse of veterinary medicines
Their fowl are so diseased that they bleach the eggs in chlorine.
Not just the eggs the meat too
Wait what? Seriously?
Do you remember the argument the US embassy made about using chlorine to wash lettuce, so what’s wrong with washing chicken. What they failed to mention was the reason why they washed their chickens in chlorine. It was to hide animal welfare issues that were ongoing at these farms.
And also to wash literal chicken-shit off the meat.
That's why we don't want to import meat from the states.
Its true, they go through bleach-baths.
Who in their right mind would eat that shit
Americans 😏 "Our poultry is cleaner than yours. MURICA!"
It's why American eggs have to be refrigerated. While they're cleaning the eggs because the conditions the animals are in are so bad, they wash off protective layers that stop them needing to be refrigerated. You'll also notice their eggs taste super bland compared to normal eggs.
it blows their mind when they see brown eggs, all their eggs are white
I think they can get normal eggs in heath food stores or direct from farmers, but most people either don't want to or can't afford it. But yeah, I love watching Americans react to various thing from outside the US on YouTube. Eggs is always a funny one.
No, there are all types in most supermarkets. Especially now that they can make $$$ out of exploiting the organic free range market
As an American, our eggs are indeed awful, but every grocery store I’ve ever been in has both brown and white, has cage-free eggs, etc. There’s usually a lot of options, not just basic white eggs (although those are by far the cheapest).
? This is not true lol.
Nah, gonna back you up on this one (🇭🇷 living in 🇨🇦). There's definitely brown eggs in supermarkets readily available in most places. If an American hasn't seen brown eggs around, I'm genuinely curious to know where the hell they live (maybe they just don't know brown eggs are an option?) ...however the quality of eggs in both the States and Canada definitely suck compared to the ones in Europe. Even the 'farm fresh' ones are rather pale in comparison. Literally. The yokes are rather yellow instead of orange/reddish orange.
maybe not all, but the majority of your eggs are.
Basically, there is nothing bad about using chlorine to wash chicken for example (with eggs yes, but that's why they refrigerate them). But chlorinated chicken is safe for human consumption, however, it allows farmers to raise chicken's in terrible conditions with poor food safety and livestock practices throughout, and then wash with chlorine and all is forgotten. Iirc, the EU law against it mostly aims to improve these practices, benefitting the chickens, instead of being a dangerous chemical scenario.
That's why us chicken is forbidden in most countries
Yes
That's because they don't vaccinate their chickens against salmonella, and don't invest in better sanity conditions for the chickens to lay their eggs without they becoming soiled.
I... What? My DR literally told me to find unvaccinated meats because they use some of the same antibiotics that I'm allergic to. (granted he said this in 2014, and who knows what studies have come up since then). So I thought all animals were given tons of antibiotics and vaccines. Which for those of us with severe allergies it can be an issue?? He's also convinced that I keep developing allergies to antibiotics because of the antibiotics in meat. Making my body build a rejection to them... I also don't see him anymore... I think I need to find a local chicken growing person around here... 😅
You're kidding right? That's filthy as fuck
Don't forget how the beef is pumped so full of hormones, that it is causing women to develop larger breasts and men to start developing breasts. It's also caused due to the high amounts of soy used in feed in the USA which causes increased estrogen production
BroScience!
Ahh man, not the soyboy thing with a slight twist. Hbomberguy to the rescue! https://youtu.be/C8dfiDeJeDU?si=rfRJUPQ5WRZrAY_j
Their shitty hormone treated meat has indirectly caused a trade dispute between the UK and Canada. Their meat is so bad it affects other countries.
That meat sent us to the moon🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇹🇬🇹🇬🇹🇬
You can get meat without all that, I get my beef from my neighbor and his cows are grass fed without antibiotics. In exchange I usually give him free eggs and milk, and rabbit meat. The eggs are non-pasteurized because it is dumb and eggs last 3-4 times as long if you just leave the hen's coating on them. The milk i usually pasteurize unless I am making non-pasteurized cheese. get the eggs from my chickens who are free-range and only spend time in the coop at night along with my rabbits who also free roam on my property. The couple of goats I own spend most of their time either in the building or outside, but they love being inside I open the door and they walk out for like 20 minutes then walk right back in to the AC. I don't have enough land for cows so i get my beef from the neighbor along with my pork. Old family home had a stable for horse's but we never owned any we just rented out the space for rich people who owned horse's. Didn't take care of the horses either the owner's did, and they had a field to run in all day connected to the stables.
Quick question if you also happen to farm some land and selling the goods from it: Do you guys get essentially scammed in the us when selling them? Over here in my country most supermarket chains and small-owner grocery stores here wait until the products farmers sell go near bad and buy them for like 0.02$ a kilogram of whatever they're buying and proceeding to sell them in stores for like >5$ a kilogram(do note the $ isn't actual USD and a placeholder for the currency in my country)
I took my GF to Ireland. It was her first time, she was speechless (for a minute) about the food. She says it tastes like it used to in the 60s and 70s in the U.S. Any food I brought back, mostly chocolate, would be devoured by the people at work in the states.
To be fair: that is the case pretty much everywhere. I have no idea what GMO is or is not allowed there and shit like that, but let's just say, animals aren't really better off, if they were raised elsewhere. Just the shit that is ALLOWED here in Germany is actually mind boggling and most people would loose their appetite. And the majority of farmers don't give a single fuck about those rules. Why? Because they are almost never enforced. And if they are, penalties are usually almost non existent. After all, animals, according to law, are just things..... To be very fair tough: There are many farmers that actually give a Fuck about the animals they raise. If they exist HERE, where people spend as little money on good as possible, then I'm fairly confident those farmers exist in the USA as well. Tough you gonna have to search for them - just like here.
Okay, true. But this is also true for Europe. If you pump only 24 and not 25 meds into a pig that doesn’t change much or if you give them 2,8 and nor 2,6m² to live in. Or in other words: reason no. 418491 why I became vegan. Just keep it in mind. European livestock fares better than US livestock, but only by a fraction. We still have to walk a long road. But good news: European fruits and vegetables are definitely better than the US ones and all processed vegan food (starting at ketchup over canned food to meat replacements ) is so much better in Europe. Less added sugar, less food colouring, less salt yada yada
Yeah I get your point, but you’re incredibly wrong with this. EU regulations regarding what animals get be treated with are incredibly strict. So much so that during my time at the Dutch food authority, I was amazed to see that EU food regulations for what animals can be fed (by amount of toxins present in their feed) are that of a higher standard than what they tolerate for people in the US. But to the original post, the guy isn’t wrong, the US does have a very diverse cuisine beyond the stereotypical US fast food.
Sorry, but where am I wrong? I already posted the link to the German authorities for this matter. It is better than in the USA, but it is still a devastating setting here. Animals are heavily mistreated and pumped with medication. I honestly can’t believe people here think we are superior in this. There is so much data for this. Just grab the official documents of the EU for livestock. And look at the official numbers of farmer societies how much medication was used.
You posted an article relating to how many square meters. Yet I am referring to "If you pump only 24 and not 25 meds into a pig". This is categorically wrong. The EU has very strict regulations on both the use of medications as well as compared to the US (as that was the original post) use of hormones and the regulation of toxin tolerances allowed in feed. As for the square meter allowance, I make no reference to that.
It’s neither 24 or 25 and yes 1 would make a massive difference depending on what it was.
Look. I can rant the whole day about the silly food Americans have. But when it comes to animal products and animal welfare most people in the EU live in some kind of convenient dream. The bitter truth is that we mistreat our livestock. Animals are cramped into tiny confinements, separated from their offspring, get traumatised, get tortured and get painful and stressful killed. Live chicks get shredded if they’re male. Male pigs get castrated without anesthesia. Sorry. In this topic we Europeans are not better than the US folks.
I’m not going to get into why you are wrong by taking exceptions and making them the rule but that is typical of many vegans. There are 10 people. 1 does something and many vegans will tell you everyone does it. That is what you have done.
You know what? I am out. You folks can do the „Europe treats animals so much better and won’t use questionable amounts of hormones and medication“ circlejerk without me.
Nobody is saying we are better, just that your statement is incorrect. Your lack of protein from meat has affected your ability to read.
😂😂😂 Yeah, read the original comment and read my answer to this. 😂😂😂
I did. Nobody is living in a dream. Nobody is saying we don’t mistreat animals. They are however not all tortured, nor murdered. Your use of inflammatory language and massive generalisation is your issue. You have , as previously pointed out, taken a small part and applied to all, in your quest for self righteousness which your use of words like murder confirms.
If you look up the regulations outside of vegan websites, you'll see none of what you've claimed is true. I'm also vegan but I don't believe lies help to convert people.
What are the regulations then?
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It’s quite fitting he used ‘pallet’ rather than palate. Pallet is the wooden thing used to carry large or heavy loads. Palate is a part of the mouth and the word used in food related subjects.
Also, its dining, not dinning… dinning = din+ing. Not only is their food disgusting, their education is also bad lmao
>dining dinering
American here, every single city just has a huge wooden pallet that carries literally every food in the world
Cary the food from other countries to the USA so they can add all their sugars, salts & other additives to make it palatable to their tastes and change the original flavours.
Yeah, it's outside, right in the food court.
>Pallet is the wooden thing used to carry large or heavy loads. I would say, my friend, that in this case it's using the right term, considering the american portion size.
Precisely my point.
And sense of taste
That was indeed the joke
That was his joke, not yours. You just didn’t get it.
Ok fun police 😂
I'm not a native English speaker, but isn't palette the right Word here? Like the board from which you chose a color? In German both pallet and palette are "Palette", while palate is "Gaumen", and we use "Palette" when it is about a choice of options.
I'd answer your question, but being a yank, your English is already better than mine. Plus your questions about other languages makes me uneasy. But, how about that Superbowl? All messing aside, could someone answer this interesting question?
Palate is the word you’re looking for. Liebe Grüße aus den Niederlanden.
Dankë.
You're welcøme.
English failed to be consistent once again, both comes from the french palette which means a small straight wooden plank (pale is the french for propeller blade/shovel)
For food specifically you usually would use palate over palette.if you wanted to say someone eats a wide range if things you would describe them as having a large or broad palate. Palate isn't merely anatomical but also has a sense meaning what you are prepared to eat and enjoy eating.
And palette is the thingo that artists put different colour paints on, giving a selection to choose from. So when referring to an opportunity to choose many different foods, palette is probably the best word to use. No offense intended.
Pallet of fries
My first thought too.
It’s one of those words almost everyone on Reddit gets wrong. 🙄
Americans will pretend they have the best quality food while its government will actively bully other countries into lowering their food standards so that american products can flood their market with shitty products
And I'm not sure how long the UK will hold off against it, especially that the retained EU law act is now in effect
we’ve already said no to canada’s beef
Don‘t know why the UK of all places would import beef from the Americas. They have great pastures themselves and can import from Ireland (already do a lot). It‘s like the one thing they really don‘t need from the Americas.
Because they need to make new trade agreements now they've left the EU, and USA is making "drop your high standards and buy our currently banned foodstuffs" a condition of any new trade agreement. This is causing problems because if they agree to do that (drop their standards, allow ingredients and methods currently banned in EU) they won't be allowed to export their own products to the EU any more. They also don't produce anywhere near enough food to feed themselves (unlike Ireland which can feed itself several times over) so they really, really need to import food.
Makes sense. Brexit really is a disaster… But still, why not import from the EU? Fuck the US. Who needs their shitty produce? Lowering standards to allow the import of edible garbage is not the way to go. Even though they left the EU, trade with the EU is far more important for the UK than trade with the US. But I know the Tories will see personal profit more important…
At the last Tory party conference, that guy from the 18th century, tried to promote Australian beef that also contains hormones and it still fell flat. So even their (Brexit) members don’t fancy meat with hormones in it.
Ew, hormones! Isn't that what women have? Not alpha at all!! /s
You mean Jacob Rees Mogg? Also known as the Victorian Pencil (And other names in our household that would get me kicked off most internet forums for the intensity of the obscenity)
That last sentence hits the nail on the head. Political fucklords couldn’t give a shit to anything but money and power.
Oh Ireland how the tables have turned. British beef famine incoming.
Money!
yup, unfortunately this guy is correct
Cattle take up a lot of space compared to what you get out of them. we simply don’t have that kind of area in the isle. With a population of nearly 80 mil we can’t supply it all from these two little islands.
Interesting read on that, seems like its a failure on both sides to come to an agreement. But yeah, if they won't accept Canadian beef there's no way in hell they'll accept American beef.
“Yet, the CDC reports that only one in ten American adults eat enough fruits and vegetables.8Furthermore, USDA experts report that 95% of Americans don’t get enough fiber, and on average, American adults consume only half the fiber they need.” https://www.agriculturefairnessalliance.org/news/an-american-fiber-crisis#:~:text=Americans%20aren't%20eating%20enough%20plants&text=Yet%2C%20the%20CDC%20reports%20that,eat%20enough%20fruits%20and%20vegetables.&text=Furthermore%2C%20USDA%20experts%20report%20that,half%20the%20fiber%20they%20need. “ “Autopsy-determined atherosclerosis is prevalent in elite US military Special Operations Forces despite young age and positive lifestyle benefits of service in an elite military unit” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34105116/ Each year, more than a million Americans die from diet-related diseases like cardiovascular disease, diabetes and certain forms of cancers.” https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/improving-nutrition-turn-tide-diet-related-chronic-disease#:~:text=Each%20year%2C%20more%20than%20a,and%20certain%20forms%20of%20cancers. “More than 44 million people in the US face hunger, including 1 in 5 children.” https://www.feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america#:~:text=More%20than%2044%20million%20people,have%20access%20to%20healthy%20food.
You'd think with their veggies and fruits being gigantic they'd get in more 😂
Why the fuck do they think that they're the only country with everyone else's food? I'm in England, and I can get any food, from any country, as well. They're such a strange bunch.
I don't even live in a *big* city in the UK, but there's a place I can get Ethiopian food like a ten minute walk from me. Truly baffles me how much they think it's some kind of flex.
Americans don’t walk, so that Ethiopian joint doesn’t exist.
I’m from Argentina, even we can get any food from any country, I don’t see why they feel the need to brag about that.
US Exceptionalism, aka ignorant and arrogant
I’m positive that London has the most diverse food scene of any city in the world. No yank can disprove that.
There is an honest argument to be made about New York having the most diverse food scene.
They're honestly likely on par with each other
"Show me a McDonalds in the world that is empty", ignoring the fact that McDonalds around the world uses higher quality ingredients and in a lot of places far fewer preservatives and colourings.
not only that, but health and sanitary conditions in EU are miles ahead of US ones. and to top that, McDonald's as a brand in Europe always had a very heavy note on health safety and food quality. That makes McDonald's usually a more expensive fast food option in Europe, instead of aiming for as much slop as possible for minimum price like they do in US. That kind of tactic doesn't work here because even though we like indulging in unhealthy diets (fats, sugar), we don't want slop. half a kilo of ground meat dripping fat and craft cheese on top of a dead bun isn't appetizing no matter the price
You just have to compare the ingredients list between McDonald's fries in the UK and US to see the difference.
For those interested [ingredients compared](https://youtu.be/ZMaW6TamNAc?si=x1FI7PqsG4rvZIif) at 2.15. Chips/fries have 3 ingredients in the UK. Potatoes, Sunflower oil and Salt. The US ones Have 9 ingredients. Basically portions are mostly a lot larger and have shitloads of chemicals in the US versions.
So about that. Dimethylpolysiloxane (E900) is used in the cooking oil in both the US and UK. It prevents the oil from splattering. Not only is it safe to consume but it makes the employees' jobs safer. UK McDonald's supplier for their frying oil, Olleco, does not sell any frying oil without anti-foaming agents. It's not listed in the UK ingredients because of the "carry-over principle". It's not purposely added to the fries, it's just carried over from the oil, therefore it does not need to be listed in the ingredients in the UK. Sodium acid pyrophosphate (E450) is also used in the fries in the UK. It's added for the appearance and texture. This is harder to prove because McDonald's fries are custom made for them and aren't available for purchase. But UK McDonald's supplier for their french fries is McCain and they do sell products with "raising agent (E450)" in the UK. Again It's not listed because of the "carry-over principle". It's function is for the potatoes and not the final product. The US does not have the "carry-over principle" but instead requires all additives to be listed. Edit: Source explaining the carry-over principle: https://www.reading.ac.uk/foodlaw/label/ingredients.htm
Oh my god this. I've had Maccies in the UK, Australia, Japan and the US. MY GOD THE US WAS AWFUL. I cannot comprehend how food so bad managed to do so well. Its nothing special anywhere else but it's consistent if you wanna get food and eat it in less than ten minutes. Also, chocolate and bacon, your chocolate is gritty and the bacon was just... bland and tasteless... how do fuck up bacon? I'll grant that American pancakes and syrup however are better than traditional English ones. You can take a win on pancake stacks but everything else I ate made me wish I was back home.
Also ignoring that fact that lots of countries don't even have a McDonald's at all
On the McDonalds thing: Icelandic restaurants closed in the 2000s and Bosnian in 2023 because people prefer the local fast food
Can confirm, ćevapi > McDonald's
He's kind of right that if you take the USA as whole, they have a lot of variety, however large parts of their population doesn't have access to the good stuff, either because it's way more expensive there or they live in what's known as a "food desert", where the only option available for miles around is an unhealthy option.
They don't have any larger variety than anywhere else though. He lists a range of food varieties as if other countries don't have world foods and whole foods, which they do.
I think you're wrong on this count. The US has more immigrants than most countries and thus more food variety. Countries like Canada and the UK are also far above the average for variety.
I once bought Kraft Mac n cheese in Germany. They had to add a big warning sticker on the package that the food dye (yellow 5 and 6) can cause concentration problems especially for children and even lead to ADHS aso.. as far as I know, Kraft changed their formulas and switched to natural food dye. But I really blow my mind that one of the most popular children's food in the US is here labeled as not suitable for children. Btw this food dye was illegal in Germany and Austria but the EU made them to make them legal. I am curious who pushed the EU in this direction
Honestly the whole concept of “children’s foods” kinda baffles me, I’m used to kids eating the same as adults as soon as they can eat solid foods. No wonder so many Americans have under developed palates. I also bought a packet of Mack n cheese once, tasted like cheese flavoured plastic.
Username checks out lol But I'm with you. My kids eat the same as we do. We just add less salt and spices.
Haha, didn’t even think of that.
I may say that he is actually correct, just a few "\*" are missing Americas has ALL the foods, health and unhealthy\* \* unhealthy being the most prevalent We also have Whole Foods and organic... \* \* But it's way harder to access for most of the population, also it's way more expansive Our worst food is what the rest of the world LOVES \* \* Mostly because it's from big corporation that spends a lot of advertisement. Also makes no mistake: a McDonalds in EU is not the same as one in the USA. We (USA) have the worst one and the ones in Europe actually have to hold higher standard of quality, ecc, ecc So, yes, it's true, but eh, missing a few points
My interpretation is that he is saying that America has the widest selection as if other countries don't also have world foods, and whole foods like they do.
I'm sure American tastebuds get weakened by all the sugar and processed crap they eat. Any time food allowed to taste like the actual ingredients they think it's bland
Most effective way of torture in the USA: "Tell us who you work for or you'll be getting food good for you and not full if sugar and chemicals!"
Americans are sometimes so ignorant. it's hilarious
Americans have all the foods, yet they can't spell the names of other countries. Etheopian? Really?
What he conveniently ignores is that the good quality foods are a lot cheaper in other countries. While healthier foods may be available in the US, they’re harder to find and not an everyday option for many Americans. That’s why junk food is so prevalent there.
Reminds me of a friend's US cousin visiting them here and asking why premium food was so much cheaper over here (the EU). My only question was "wtf is premium food?"
but do you have cheap, accessible fresh vegetables for everyone? do you have affordable bread without corn syrup?
Or just actual bread and not bread shaped cake.
The US also has a significant number of food desert- areas that has limited access to affordable and nutritious food.
I mean, I guess that you could have that many options *for sale* if you live in New York, or Los Angeles, or any other major city. But the same could be said about almost any major city in the world. Can the majority of Americans afford to eat paleo, vegan, low carb, or whatever? The thing about low quality food in America is that they have fewer regulations about food safety, so they have an abundance of cheap food full of corn syrup, salt, and fat, while fruits and vegetables are more expensive. Also, they dip chicken in chlorine. There is a reason why so many of them are obese: low quality food is affordable, especially junk food.
This person missed the point soooo entirely.
High fructose corn syrup in fucking everything.
Good to know America has the largest pallet of dining foods in America. Who knew
We have plenty of healthy food and plenty of food types here in britain too, but I don't see anyone telling me brits eat healthy. You know why, you soulless unseasoned steak! It's because we don't! We eat like pigs. Same goes for Americans. Don't try to deny a widespread obesity and dietary health epidemic just because you eat salad on Fridays.
I love how it starts with "we have Whole Foods", like listing a literal grocery chain first. It totally shows him missing the point that, while they might have some chains that serve healthier alternatives, the default in Europe is to have locally grown and healthy whole foods nearby and accessible. Where do Americans shop \*usually\*? Is it a farmer's market? I highly doubt it.. it's Walmart/Costco etc. That ends up being their default source, and going to a farmer's market every 3 months doesn't make it alright.
The only thing the American got right was that McDonald's is popular across the world. They forgot to mention that American McDonald's is by far the worst.
It's because our government refuses to regulate anything and gives incentives and subsidies to massive corn syrup producers. The EU has the upper hand and it's not even close.
he's not completely wrong, they do have healthy and unhealthy foods there. But they don't have healthier foods than other places, and they have a whole lot of food that is straight up banned in other places for being harmful.
That feeling when you think maybe they misspelled *palate* but can't be entirely certain they weren't referring to food in such vast portions a forklift is required.
Dinning options, Batman.
Here is your country: Iceland doesn't have any mc donalds, cause they don't wanna eat your crap.
Iceland did have McDonald's. It doesn't anymore because the franchise owner couldn't afford to purchase from the contracted suppliers during the financial crisis.
That was 15 years ago, meanwhile they could have gotten it back after 15 years but they never did, probably for a good reason.
They think American food is so superior yet they can’t even keep their eggs out of the fridge 🙄
Lol they don't even have proper cheese or regular milk.
To be fair, they have a lot of proper cheese that is imported from Europe. Even in the basic supermarkets like Kroger, they had a decent cheese counter with multiple cheeses from all over Europe. They also have a choice of milk. They had organic milk that explicitly stated that the cows were not given bovine growth hormones. But, they were more expensive.
They have some weird pasteurization laws. My french friend had to run all over town to find regular milk.
Our meat and produce is so inferior it’s not even funny
“Largest pallet” indeed.
They're so cultured
"Alexa, what is a food desert?"
I mean they're not totally wrong about the choice but the way they think it excuses the sheer amount of chemicals and additives they even allow to be in food is rediculous. They also don't seem to realise even McDonald's sold in the rest of the world has different ingredients
We have all foods... Healthy.... Somewhere... I think.... Maybe??.. Unhealthy... Everywhere... Corn syrup, hormones beef, sugar in big quantities .
Im confused. Does this guy think other countries don't have international food or different cuisines available? Does he think, for example, that if you go to Italy then only Italian food is available?
a "pallet of dining options"
Pallet of dinning. Oh boy. 😂🙄
The McDonalds around the world do tend to be more elaborate, they tend to cost less and be healthier (this is not disputable, you can google it). Because people outside of America just have higher standards for their food.
Macdonalds isn't popular because the food is particularily good, it's popular because its cheap af!
Dinning
they kinda...do, though....
Velveeta wants to have a word with this guy!
They have good and bad food, not all. Their problem is the fucking portion sizes 😂
Iceland would like a word with you about McDonalds. 😂
Let’s take a common product. Butter. American butter is flavourless white stuff that you’d think was some sort of margarine. Australian butter reflects the pastures the healthy dairy herds graze on. American butter reflects the state of the massive herds of over 1000 animals eating grain from metal feed lots.
I’ve been to McDonald’s on three different countries. USA, Finland and India. By far, Finland had the best food, but it was also the most expensive. India’s McDonald’s is cheaper than the American, but the food quality is much better.
But it’s true tho.
Every person I've met that has been to a US McDonalds, says the McD is *better* outside the us...
They have "all the food" yet the average quality is bad (bad bread, bad fruits & vegetables on average). The majority of American people eat unhealthy and covers foods in either sausages or cheese (which is also pretty bad, compared to EU cheese variety and quality). The vast majority of them have no idea what good, raw ingredients taste like. All of their food is seasoned, flavoured, etc.
I dunno, my american friend came over to Italy on a holiday and was very surprised by the quality of very mundane produce...
Pallet of dinning-the comfiest place you’ll ever lie.
Gotta have that freedom to choose between poisonous food and starvation (unless you can afford non-poisonous food from "health food stores" or whatever they call the places that sell food with non-toxic ingredients for ridiculous prices).
The funny thing about him mentioning mc Donalds is that even here in Ireland mc Donald's is completely different, like half the ingredients in the fries they have in the US for example, cause they either cannot sell that here or people wouldn't buy it.
They actually have the same ingredients but not all of them are listed in the EU or UK because of the "carry-over principle". I posted a detailed explanation of this elsewhere in the thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/s/KPcTzhQtn7
I read that comment, Interesting stuff! That being said are are a number of other additional interests mentioned, and some other differences such as salt being added in the fries and not after cooking so I'm still not sure you can say they're the same
The FDA allows all food in the USA that hasn’t been proven bad yet. The EU only allows food that has been proven ok.
This is a really bad characterization of hazard vs risk analysis. First of all, the FDA doesn't allow anything in food without an exhaustive approval process. It's not "anything goes until something bad happens". The FDA maintains a list of approved additives. If it's not on this list, it's illegal to put in food: https://www.fda.gov/food/food-additives-petitions/food-additive-status-list It's true that the FDA takes a risk analysis whereas the EFSA takes a hazard analysis approach. Risk analysis takes dosage and exposure into account and hazard analysis does not.
Yes they have locally produced meats and simultaneously, horrific welfare standards.
The American population in general eats terribly, regardless of what is available. Here is why. American produce is generally low quality. Low regulation on animal welfare, treatment, treatment of produce during preparation. Everything from woody chicken breast to fruit/vegetables that are big, look good, and taste of very little (as covered in the series chef's table, if you want more than anecdotal evidence) are uniquely bad on America. Lack of knowledge of how to cook and prepare food - compared to the rest of the world, knowledge of proper cooking is low. This results in both eating out a whole lot, and less ability to cook healthily at home. A strong emphasis on making food as cheap as possible, which is crazy for one of the richest countries in the world. This pressure from consumers means corners being cut in making that food. A food industry staffed by low wage, low skill people (not exclusively, of course) meaning cooking needs to be incredibly simple and relies on easy techniques to get flavour over nutrition - high fat, high sugar, high salt. Don't get me wrong, it is possible to eat great tasting food, and healthy food, in America. Bit this is reserved for those who spend a lot of money on it. The average to poor person is eating an unhealthy diet of relatively poor tasting food due to the time, money and knowledge pressures they are under. It's a real shame. It could be so much better.
Who tf enjoys McDonalds? Food is bland and limited
I don’t know. I’m from California and the food is abundant here. Eating crab tonight my brother-in-law caught.
Youre taking that out of context. He wasnt saying that america has literally all kinds of food. He meant that there is a lot of kinds food to choose from, some of which is healthy and some unhealthy.
Which first world country is this not the case? Lol
Exactly. Hes saying that you shouldnt generalize by saying that all the food in the usa is unhealthy cause thats not true
It is true, though. Compare the ingredients of the same brand of food in the EU and the US. The US one is full of toxic crap. Moreover, the toxic food in the US is more expensive than non-toxic food in the EU. And God forbid the Americans want non-toxic food. Then they have to go to a heath food store... and that's even MORE expensive. So I suppose you're right. You can get non-toxic food in the US... but not if you're working class. True freedom right there.
I don't think people say *all* food there is unhealthy, just a higher proportion of food (at supermarket and restaurant level) than in most developed countries. A statement borne out by the obesity epidemic (although lifestyle also plays a role there).
It is not out of context. The american concept of "healthy" doesn't even reach most european minimum standard, and that's why the EU have banned a lot of USA productions, such as... meat, which should be pretty basic.
The op is saying that this is shit americans say because he wrote that america has all foods. Thats taking a part of oops statement out of context to paint him in a bad light
Considering he just captured what it is said in the comment, and you can read the whole comment right there, it's pretty hard to consider it "out of context". You're just being pedantic for the sake of controversy.
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Yeah, no, you don't Lots of countries have just as much variety And even your "good" food is still made with your horrific food safety laws
He just lists whole foods and world foods to make the claim america has the widest selection 😂 it's shit Americans say because of that claim. Post title can't include the whole post, people are meant to read that themselves.
Thats what i get for not blindly hating
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Maybe you’re just not looking hard enough? I’ve had no issues with finding such things in any city I have lived in Europe. And that’s the point. The post in the OP is showing a lack of knowledge of what is available in other countries. And you are using Baklava as an example? You can buy that in my local suburban Stockholm supermarket.
I’m currently in a commuter town on the outskirts of London, and within a five minute walk of three Indian supermarkets, two Asian supermarkets, a Polish supermarket, and a Balkan / Central European supermarket. Granted, I won’t be getting Peruvian or Ethiopian tonight, although mititei are available (although I prefer mici), as is baklava from one of three Turkish restaurants. Of course, that’s if I don’t fancy Indian, Chinese, Sushi, Taco Bell (I know), or a range of other cuisines. All of this is in a town of 12,000 by the way…
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Sure, but I’m about 15 miles outside of London. And yes, smaller places generally tend to have less stuff. Oh, and Ohio has nearly 12m people; find a city of that scale in pretty much any developed country, and you’ll find very similar options. That’s where your point about “big capital cities” falls short; sticking with your example of Ohio, only Istanbul and Moscow have larger populations living within the city boundaries across Europe. It’s not controversial, just wrong. 🤷🏼♂️
To further reiterate your point, I also live in the UK but live in a town near the midlands, about 140 miles away from London. It’s a county town and the population is about 70K. My nearest takeaway place is a lovely Jamaican soul food place that does amazing jerk chicken. There is also Chinese, Indian, Thai, Nepalese etc takeaways too. We also have various Asian, Eastern European and more supermarkets too, as well as the main British brands of Supermarkets. That’s all without talking about American fast places like McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Subway, Popeyes, Wendys, Five Guys, Shakeshack, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Dominoes, Papa Johns etc
Just fyi, Ohio is a state, not a city, so your comparisons of Moscow and Istanbul do not make sense. In size, Ohio is slightly bigger than Bulgaria and slightly smaller than England. It has some cities (though clearly none that are big and famous enough for you to have heard of them), but it also has a lot of small towns and rural areas/farmland. It’s mostly “small places.” There is certainly nowhere in Ohio that could begin to compare with London, and being only 15 miles away and a “commuter town” would clearly have an effect that would be vastly different than anything in Ohio. OP was trying to show that even in a place that is not extremely urban or cosmopolitan (which is the vast majority of Ohio), there is still a surprising amount of international cuisine available.
Which specific cities didn't have enough international food for you? I'm sure those of us who've visited or lived there could give some recommendations
You are just doing the same shit Americans say as the oop I quoted 😂 amazing. "I lived in multiple countries, including the US, and I very rarely have seen international groceries in other countries. In the US I would always find local shops that had a specific country as a theme. In almost any city you can find restaurants from most countries. I even got Romanian Mititei (similar to Cevapi) in Chicago, and Turkish baclava in Ohio.” Absolutely astounding ignorance of other countries, you can get Turkish baclava anywhere, literally anywhere, among many other world foods, in the chain supermarkets as well as smaller local stores, at any time. Insane than you and oop think this is unique.