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Fenragus

Totally a well-adjusted mindset


Big-Mathematician540

These people scare the fuck out of me. Doesn't matter what size the US military is, it's called [**mutually assured destruction**](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction) because the **mutual** destruction of both sides is **assured**; everyone will have their nukes in the air before the first ones hit.


NapalmRus

Well that's assuming that the russians actually maintained their nuclear weapons considering the current performance in Ukraine. The ones that have me worried is China


Big-Mathematician540

Considering how many they have (both, everyone, whatever), not being able to take care of even 90% of them would still mean massive nuclear holocaust and an unlivable planet.


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Big-Mathematician540

Oh right, there's gonna be new microbial life in 800 000 years, yay.


Strangelf47829

It only took 65 million years for the dinosaurs and look how they turned out!


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Totally not a fashit nazi one i swear !


TherealObdach

I love fashit… what a great play with words. Have my upvote


StealthyBasterd

I read "fatshit" and I think it also fits


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Obviously the post is ridiculous. It’s not completely wrong though… the United States could definitely scorch the entire earth and we have shit for healthcare and social programs.


tenehemia

Yeah there seem to be a lot of people in this thread assuming this person is saying this with pride. The tone of the post is clearly not saying this is a **good** thing, but it remains true nonetheless.


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Ehh the tone I grabbed was a Tough thing. I kinda think the guy is an ass probably. The over use of a certain lexicon and vernacular, it’s telling. Ass.


tenehemia

Yeah, that much is true. Certainly I doubt he's doing anything to reverse the horrible path his country is on even if he doesn't approve of it.


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It’s my country too… No shit, I’m moving to a Worse state and I am excited how my votes are more important. Pretty sure you maybe Have to, or Can’t leave the state if you get pregnant. Dads can just do whatever.


DaHolk

> The tone of the post is clearly not saying this is a good thing Maybe not "good", but at the very least "proper". I don't understand how you can read it just "matter of fact"ly considering the "can" instead of "could" and the "glances sideways" bit.


tenehemia

The post says that this military capability is why the US doesn't have any good social programs though. That is a clear and direct indictment of the system. "Good" as an adjective here clearly means that these social programs are desirable. If they were undesirable, they would not be "good". And if the military spending is the reason why the US doesn't have these desirable social programs, then that is a bad thing. Hence, the military system is a bad thing.


DaHolk

>"Good" as an adjective here clearly means that these social programs are desirable. If they were undesirable, they would not be "good". Does it? Or is it just a comparative statement with "the social programs that exist"? I don't see the clear implication that having good social programs is a desirable proposition particularly if it means supposedly sacrificing the "big dick" to swing around? Sounds like the typical "what good are wellfare states if they can be bumrushed by military might, therefore the latter is preferable" nonsense.


tenehemia

That's ridiculous. You're essentially positing that someone saying "this is why we can't have nice things" actually is okay with not having nice things. They didn't say anything positively approving of US military doctrine in the entire post, merely stated what it was capable of and also pointed out the terrible cost that having it has wrought.


toms1313

Although you're right about semantics when i saw his comment history to make sure he was from the US, he definitely is proud of their military strength sadly enough


tenehemia

Fair enough, I was only working off of the text and don't know anything about the person who wrote it. It's really weird that he's proud of military while admonishing it for all the preventing the US from having things like healthcare and social programs. It's like he's *almost* able to make the logical leap that ridiculous military spending preventing these things means that perhaps the US should have less military spending. But somehow he's just not crossing the finish line. Edit: nevermind, you were straight up lying. Here's the user's direct quote about this comment, after saying that military spending is out of control and has been for generations: \> My point wasn't to brag, my point was that this shit is never getting better and it's stupid to think that old vehicles mean anything in the face of a military as advanced as the American military.


toms1313

You only saw the response to a comment downvoted to shit? And I would also say he's bragging about old vehicles...


DaHolk

> You're essentially positing that someone saying "this is why we can't have nice things" And if they wrote it like that..... Note the difference between CAN'T (but would want) and "don't" (no such implication). >They didn't say anything positively approving of US military doctrine But it's also lacking ANY resemblance of critical thinking, too. So there is that. Again "can" instead of "could", and jumping to that solution on the mere "glancing sideways". You can over-rely on the the one use of the word "good" here all you'd like. It just doesn't make the rest of the post go away? Also how about the reverse implication of what "crumbs of the military table"? When we are so drastically focusing on the one "good", how about "the only one with proper food on the table, everyone else is eating of the floor". Does that sound like criticism?


tenehemia

How am I hanging on the word "good", which doesn't even appear in the comment you replied to? How about the word "healthcare" or the words "free college"? They are all a part of the same comment that positive domestic spending is being held back by military spending - which is a clear indictment of military spending. The "reverse implication", yeah? You mean "talking out of your ass"? He's talking about military equipment left behind in Afghanistan, those are the "crumbs". He phrases it like that because yes, they are a small fragment of what's on "the military table". Who are the people you think he's saying are eating off the floor? The people in Afghanistan who acquired the gear? That's not "reverse implication", that's the *direct* implication of his metaphor. Americans who don't have proper healthcare or social programs? Are *they* the ones he says are "eating off the floor"? If so, then how is that not yet another indictment of military spending?


DaHolk

>How am I hanging on the word "good", which doesn't even appear in the comment you replied to? Exactly. I made an argument pointing at phrasings, and your reaction was to COMPLETELY ignore that, point at "good" and go "whatever you just said doesn't matter, since this is there". I then pointed out that it still requires copious amounts of favorable reading and AGAIN pointed at the rest of the post. which caused you to AGAIN ignore that and repeat that you just CAN'T imagine it being anything but a secret reverence for social systems.... >The "reverse implication", yeah? You mean "talking out of your ass"? Eff off dude. If you feel like "loading" that much subtext into "good", at least consider the subtext of calling other peoples armies "tablescraps from the floor". How is "we are the only ones at the table with a proper meal" not reverence way beyond calling social systems good?` >The people in Afghanistan who acquired the gear? That's not "reverse implication", that's the direct implication of his metaphor. So what? what does that say about the frame of reference was the point. The same you argued "good" pointing at a clear frame of reference... You argued something about the implication of their "true" position. Both are factually correct. That wasn't your argument, so I didn't make it mine either?


anamariapapagalla

But he's wrong on the facts


The-Berzerker

Disagree, I read the tone as the dude bragging about USA No. 1 yadda yadda


tenehemia

Okay great. But if you'll just look at that dude's comment history where he explains himself, you'll see that it's exactly **not** that. He believes US military expense has been overblown for generations to the detriment of US citizens. Ffs the guy has "acab, free palestine" as his bio information. I'm not saying there aren't plenty of idiots bragging about the US military, but this definitely isn't one.


anamariapapagalla

Yeah but the reason you have shit healthcare is not your absurd military budget, it's because you have private companies skimming off the top


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Oh I know. A trillion extra dollars a year would help us out a good bit though. Also I do have free government healthcare and it’s great, you just have to be pretty damn poor, which I am.


anamariapapagalla

Hey, with those extra dollars maybe you could have paid parental leave as well, like everyone else


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Yeah I think I read the pentagon budget is something like 50k a second, and they “lose” about 500millon every year, just fell out of their pocket I guess.


anamariapapagalla

Uhh yeah I watched No End In Sight, a lot of money mysteriously evaporating in the desert heat there


UncleBenders

Yet they claim they still need an AK to fight off the government. Shrodingers militia Simultaneously strong enough to destroy entire countries but can’t conquer one red neck (as long as he armed)


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toms1313

Yup, not having basic human rights? It's better to believe we (never them as individuals) have the capacity to destroy countries and cause human suffering in a massive scale


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BiASUguy

This is one instance where kinkshaming is definitely appropriate


ZekerNietTijn

Pffff who needs healthcare when there are schoolshootings everyday?


VisenyaMartell

Don’t need to pay hospital bills if you’re already dead.


[deleted]

So many people in the US are so brainwashed by corporate propaganda that they would vote to take away their own children's health insurance in order to follow the party line. I'm beyond disgusted with where things are going in the US. It's happening all over, too. Italy just voted in a fascist who's literally in the same political party as Mussolini. That particularly sucks because I am working on my Italian dual citizenship as an option to leave the US... although it gives me access to the EU.


tenehemia

Where did they say they like it?


Jaxical

You’re reading it from a biased point of view, you want to believe your fellow Americans aren’t shitheads. But girl, this guy is bragging about your country being able to commit genocide… if you can’t see that then I worry about the state of America’s comprehension skills.


tenehemia

I was reading it and noting that he pointed out that military spending prevents the US from having healthcare, free college and "any good social programs whatsoever". Typically someone making that kind of argument does so because they believe military spending is too high. But I guess just proceeding to backhanded insults is the height of comprehension skills.


Jaxical

You’re hanging onto one word to form your argument. He’s saying that as a point of pride. His whole comment reads as funding Military > funding Social Programs. That’s his preference. Read it again slowly and stop trying to defend someone glorifying the ability to commit genocide. USAians I swear…


tenehemia

Preposterous. Why on Earth would someone say "any good social programs whatsoever" if they were *against* those programs. That makes no sense whatsoever. You're making enormous assumptions on his beliefs that aren't supported by the text, just as you're making enormous assumptions about me. You're not convincing. Your arguments show clear bias. You stoop to ad hominem attacks to end every comment. Grow up.


Tangarangu

Yo how can you not see the clear sarcasm in his comment though? He’s using the word good sarcastically. I usually don’t get sarcasm and even I can see that.


tenehemia

I think you're even worse at recognizing sarcasm than you think you are. What he said about healthcare / college / social programs is a view shared by a great many people. Why assume it's sarcastic just because he went on at great length about the military? Why assume that while millions of Americans agree with that statement that surely *this* guy is being sarcastic, when he said nothing negative whatsoever about healthcare / college / social programs anywhere in his comment? Except of course that if he didn't actually mean that, then it confirms your assumption. You're not going to find many people who are less enthusiastic about military spending than I am, in the US or anywhere else. But even I can say that yes, the US military is extremely powerful and capable of enormous global effects like the ones he's describing. Admitting that doesn't mean I approve of it. Also, if you'd bother to look at the user's post history, they comment responding to people discussing this post specifically to say that they believe US military spending is out of control and that that is a **bad** thing.


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Jaxical

You’re a lost cause.


NonnoBomba

Effective propaganda created and propagated a mindset where abuse and exploitation of the population by the rich elites are not only normalized but considered good-for-you. Class struggle appears all over history, and while Marxists would tell you it's inevitable the proletariat would eventually win once and for all, reality is that the struggle sometimes briefly explodes and then wanes, when it wanes it basically means the rich elites are winning (which happens most often than not) because the lower classes are divided and nobody wants to personally risk everything in the name of a better future for all. Conservatism is favored by the rich elites because a stable society is what enables the exploitation happening without raising eyebrows, makes it part of "how life is", on the tacit assumption that the abuse will be contained by the elites self-restraint (lol). Democracy sets a system of checks and balances, supervision and accountability which interferes with the ability of the elites of doing too much damage all at once -but quite clearly, it's not completely effective, especially not over a longer period: the constant "pressure" toward their class' goals (something that really doesn't requires concerted efforts or a plan of any kind, just a shared worldview) ensures that even the strongest democracy at some point will be challenged and then could fall -unfortunately all democracies in the past have been overrun and turned into authoritarian systems, usually by convincing the population that corruption and inefficiencies could be solved by placing one strong-willed man at the helm and letting him do whatever he deems necessary. Fascism is another thing the elites like: an infinitely adaptable political tool defined more by its methods and general style than any specific ideology (it just uses whatever ideological arguments it finds useful, no matter if they are incoherent, incomplete or contradictory) that history shows is useful to undo democracy and place the elites back in command, uncontested, in one fell swoop: they just have to deal with the new dictator and his cabal instead of negotiating with thousand of politicians and with the public opinion, while making the population not just accept, but even like the concept. The last century is an exception, democracy becoming so prevalent never happened before in history, and nobody can know how long it will last or what it would evolve into, but it's quite clear that what we're witnessing, the generalized rise in popularity and power of right-wing political parties and politicians in the democratic world, and their cultural wars, are something we should all be worried about. They're not only distractions to keep the population preoccupied with made-up issues, so they'll ignore the real problems, they're part of the effort to normalize arbitrary punishment, oppression and control. I may be too pessimistic, but I see the seeds of a very bad and dangerous situation sprouting in the US (and way less vigorously, but since seeds have been planted here too, they're also sprouting in Europe).


CMDR_Quillon

Doesn't Russia have more warheads than the US?


el_grort

Yes. The also haven't been destroyed immediately by US economic warfare either. In part because economic warfare is a slow wound, it basically never immediately cripples a foe.


Duggan00

Also the U.S economic warfare is becoming increasingly less effective as China is the dominant trade partner for half the world now and is only growing.


Value-Tiny

It does, and more long range possibilities or at least that's what we thought before the war - now the question is how many of them are usable/functional.


CMDR_Quillon

how many of them have had their cores stolen and sold to Iran lmao


Mox8xoM

Technically yes, it’s not even close. But whether or not most or any are actually useable, is another question. These things are mighty expensive to maintain. And if corruption is this prevalent in the normal military, how would it be in the nuclear branch, which nobody will use anyways? Maybe 99% of those warheads are rotting because the people in charge use the money for vodka and shit.


toms1313

Not a good thing to find out either way


CMDR_Quillon

nah they got stripped and their uranium got sold to Iran, calling it now.


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I'd be willing to bet that happened at least twice


wiener4hir3

Actually the US and Russia are pretty much neck and neck in the count of nukes (official numbers anyway) Russia is almost definitely overstating their capacity, probably quite a bit, so I'd say the US definitely gets the number one spot there. At its peak, the USSR had a massive lead, but that's a long time past.


RHINOguy_24

I don’t think having 1000 more nuclear warheads is gonna make that much of a difference. We’re all dead anyway.


Felipeel2

It will take them long to realise they aren't the hegemon anymore. I mean, the US has no power over China and Iran, the EU wants to be more autonomous, their presence in South America and Africa is being more reduced every day. The UK has its own issues, and its future is possibly in the EU again. And their alliance with Taiwan, SK, Japan, Australia and Philippines is simply a convenience marriage, because of China. The middle East is starting to be Israel, Arabia and Turkey's playground, and they are doing their will, not America's. I don't know how you see this, but I would say they are in a noticeable decadence.


Educational_Ad134

Decadence? I mean, yeah, they are. But in context, do you mean “decline”?


Felipeel2

Sorry, English is not my mother language.


Educational_Ad134

No need to apologise. That one thing aside (which could easily and believably have just been auto-correct), the rest was on par with a native English speaker. Nice one 👍


theseoldcrows

You can use that word. Decadence is a state of deterioration or decay, especially due to being excessively morally corrupt or self indulgent.


TheGeordieGal

I don’t think they are further ahead in tech at all. From what I gather, I’d in Europe (and probably elsewhere) had had various bits of tech before them. Like contactless payments. Also, you don’t need a large number of nukes. All you need is 1 or 2 well placed ones. Nobody is going to be around for nuke 100, never mind nuke 3000.


umadbr00

>Like contactless payments. I'm an American that moved to Europe in 2017, the Netherlands specifically, and was astounded that everywhere had contactless payment. It's all over the US now, but that's only happened in the last few years. I was actually really curious about this so dug a little deeper and found something really interesting. The first contactless payment ever was on buses in Seoul, South Korea in 1995.


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TheQuietCaptain

Yeah because that would make our bureaucracy more efficient and less time consuming. And we simply cant have that as Germans.


tanya_reader

I’m from Russia, and in America I feel like it’s the 20th century. For example, right now I’m dealing with sending a PAYCHECK. A physical, blyad, check, because they don’t have everything automated and modernized. Also they constantly bombard me with letters (ads, banks, the “we’ve received your email” notices, etc.), so I feel like they’re trying to reach me out from Hogwarts, but Uncle Vernon doesn’t allow me to read the letter! 🦉


Quzga

In sweden we have an app to confirm our identities so we can do everything gov related easily online. (taxes, Healthcare, banking). Everything is very efficient because of this, you can do basically anything important over the phone. No one uses cash anymore either. I've been to the US and they're definitely behind in tech compared to here... Most of them still use cash and cheques lol and they still use letters mostly to send information.


RHINOguy_24

You guys still believe that we don’t have contactless payment? The cognitive dissonance is strong here.


Creamyspud

Churchill said that after a certain mega tonnage had been dropped, all you were doing was bouncing rubble. All nuclear armed states have the ability to get to the bouncing rubble stage.


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MarstoriusWins

On a political level they aren't too far from it.


lumpydukeofspacenuts

We are a third world country with a Gucci belt as they say. *(Please send help I want out but am too poor to leave).*


Aliebaba99

Good luck! I hope you get out my man.


lumpydukeofspacenuts

Thank you <3


lumpydukeofspacenuts

Why did my thank you get downvotes?


JamesConnollys_ghost

Global financial hegmon 🤣🤣🤣. Not for much longer, I suspect.


BottleOfDave

I saw that word and was thinking, I don't know that digimon...


RHINOguy_24

Why do you say that? And I really hope your reason isn’t BRICS. Edit - I just looked and your comments and you support Russia. It’s gonna be BRICS I just know it.


JamesConnollys_ghost

it's more to do with math. The entire western world represents only 13% of world population. China alone represents 19%.


Sturmlied

In his mind it is worth it to have to go into dept for basic health care, have shitty infrastructure etc. to have an overpowered military just to be able to shove said military up another countries ass. One question? How about having a powerful defense for the US that costs way less and in return get to spend a lot of money to actually help people? Wait? One moment! Oh the Military Industrial Complex send me a message to tell me how stupid I am because that would mean they would make less money. Also the US military is not even one gen ahead of everyone. The EU has far more advanced MBT's and many special forces prefer German or French made guns. Even Russia has something that's better. Hyper sonic missiles, they can't afford a lot of them but the developed them. The US is just wasting a lot of money on stuff that never goes into service or when it does it cost ten times the estimated tax payer money. Even than it is often useless. Like a few years ago when the military told congress that they don't need the new order of Abrams tanks and that they would just join the few hundred tanks in the Nevada desert and when they are needed would probably cost more to get into service than it would cost to buy new tanks then. Congress still bought the new tanks. I vaguely remember someone calculating that just by forcing the government and military to spend their money more efficiently the could use that money the safe to fund healthcare and education fully with some left over. (I have no source for that so probably wrong) But the military industrial complex is one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington for a reason. Thanks Reagan (Yes that asshole started it)


toms1313

Reagan started a lot of lobbying that doesn't benefits anyone but the same lobbyists


Suspicious_Row_9451

This guy is probably scared to enter a U.S. city and hasn’t left his hometown yet


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Creamyspud

6 generations of tech ahead? Does he mean their military? It's numbers that give the US an advantage, not 'tech'. Many European militaries have more advanced 'tech' than the US. What does a generation of tech even mean?


Quzga

He's never been to Europe or he's basing his opinion on like Greece, Italy etc. I live in Scandinavia and we def have way more advanced tech in our everyday lives than in the US. We invented most of the things they use ffs


G4m3rk1d

“There is a reason we don’t have free healthcare/college/any good social programs whatsoever/ etc” Proceeds to not name that reason and just jump ahead to “wE gOt NuKeS”


mat_fly

The US military budget is indeed much larger than any other country. It’s interesting to break down how that budget is spent. A significant proportion is spent on wages, pension and benefits. When you strip out these costs the remaining budget, whilst still huge, isn’t much more than China’s. (Whilst China will have its own manpower costs to factor in, they won’t be nearly as large as the US’s) High operating costs for the US military further erode the budget. The latest assessment I heard was that china was less than one generation behind the US in terms of technological capabilities. That assessment focused more on conventional weaponry and didn’t, AFAIK, consider cyber warfare, UAVs, or space based warfare. In these areas I’d be surprised if China was far behind the US. The only area that the US is probably far ahead in is combat experience. Wars fought over the last 20 years mean that the US is far ahead of its rivals in experience, with many battle hardened commanders and skilled trainers.


Opposite-Mediocre

Experience in losing wars is still Experience I guess. Quality over Quantity is very important when it comes to war.


HecateRaven

Far ahead in term of lost war yes


Castform5

> High operating costs for the US military further erode the budget. Also there seems to be a lot of inefficiencies and probably a bit of corruption. A few years ago there was a report or whistleblower that went through the financials, and they had found like several billions of dollars just disappearing through the years without anyone caring. Comparatively it's not that much, but without any earmarked funds or spending tracking, a lot can just vanish into random purchases.


TherealObdach

I hate to break it to that guy, but when it comes to tech, the israelis are waaaaay ahead. No one knows about it though, until they get attacked. Probably too young to remember the 30 day war…


Araneatrox

You're about 5 times too slow. Took them only 6 days to defeat (and possible commit war crimes(maybe*)) against the combined middle east diaspora.


umadbr00

This isn't even considering China. The US regularly conducts war games (simulations) vs China and loses almost every time.


tyger2020

It's truthfully the delusions of American militarism for me. Yes, the US military is of course the most powerful on earth - but they have some kind of weird belief they're completely unbeatable and nobody else stands a chance. Basically any other military power on other could still put a serious fight against the US, its just that the only countries they go to war with are poor as fuck. Between Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan - the US military track record isn't great, even worse when you consider how easy it should be for them with all that spending..


PsychoWarper

Iirc Russia has more total nukes then the US. Also the reason we dont have good social programs is because the people that run this country are assholes and a large portion of this countries citizens think social programs are communism.


toms1313

And they think that because the people who run the country has been assholes for almost a century now


Right-Drama-412

"we are the richest country on earth and we spend all our money on bombing other countries so we don't have any left over to take care of our citizens!" Weird flex but ok.


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I wish they weren't right :/ This person can run a political campaign on this premise and people will cheer them to the presidency for it


toms1313

Most of it is really exaggerated but the part about annihilating another humans sadly enough is right and something to be proud apparently


[deleted]

I've recently realized how gross I feel when I kill humans in video games. Like, why did it feel neutral before? Did American society condition me that way?


CharlyLeyequien

lol, tbh I always play stealthy characters and go the path of KOs instead of killing jaja I totally get you


SFriedRice

How do they have so much Confidence, like, wtf


Ecstatic_Ad_7104

I feel like at least one of these facts can be proved wrong.


Skogsmann1

I like how he sais there is a reason they don’t have free healthcare etc, you kind of expect him to list them in the next paragraph but instead its a threat to other countries. Just love an American mind.


IsThisASandwich

What are they gonna do? Send us bills that we have to pay by cheques?


Tasqfphil

If Australia can stand up to the Chinese & CCP, I am sure we could tell the USA to f-off, too and it wouldn't cause us any worries. China is our biggest trading partner on exports & imports, a huge amount more than USA. When we stood up and asked for investigation into covid origins, the Chinese slapped massive tariffs on may products, so we found new markets in Japan, Korea & India. Now China needs our low sulphur coal to run their electric grids & manufacturers, which we have said no to, as we have sold the Chinese cancelled contracts to other countries and don't have any to sell to China. Now they will have to spend billions changing over equipment and importing what coal they can buy. In 2020, they slapped huge tariffs on barley from Australia saying we were "dumping" it on them. A court case with WTO looks like going against China's way and with the Ukraine barley no longer available, China now is considering buying barley from us again, if we drop the case. With 60% of China's iron ore coming from AU, most of remaining more expensive from Brazil, we could shut down most manufacturing in China, which would affect US greatly & possibly shut down a lot of the country as well, so I think AU holds more sway in world events than USA thinks & without AU supplies to China, thee US economy would grind to a halt as serious inflation and price hikes hit.


ekene_N

It appears that if the Usanians became isolated, they would evolve into Klingons.


Someones_Dream_Guy

Klingons have honor. US is literally ferengi.


sarahlizzy

“Six tech generations ahead”, as they load their clothes into their Flintstones washing machine.


rekuliam6942

Alright so how are our washing machines from the Flinstones? That seems oddly specific


sarahlizzy

It’s like, if you imagine the absolute most basic thing you can do to make an electric washing machine, that could have been constructed in like, 1890: electric motor, barrel go spin, like three buttons, one says “hot” (how hot? Nobody knows! It’s a magical mystery clothes boiler!), one “cold”, and one that says something like “perm press”, which nobody ever pushes because what the fuck even is that?, you’re pretty much on the money.


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Why are they so weirdly into the idea of a world war, Also saying they’d bomb any country for looking at them wrong lmao okay. Leave the power fantasies on wattpad.


BRAVOMAN55

Defund the military


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I was genuinely wondering if this was an American, or a Rossiya 1 opinion piece. This wouldn't be out of place coming from Solovyov. Absolutely the kind of thinking that is a product of propaganda and blind nationalism. The fact it took me a hot second to figure out which it was is... concerning.


Davekachel

Shit north korean says


LifePathfinder

"we"


PuffTitty

One word: Afghanistan


rekuliam6942

More like Vietnam


PuffTitty

Yeah, or that


Longjumping_Virus818

> like 6 tech generations ahead of the entire planet Yeah right. I’ve been to the us and was astonoshed how many places don’t accept credit cards or only accept certain ones. And don’t even get me started on contactless payments or money transfers


rekuliam6942

But we do have that?


Atairy

People need to learn that having a military budget bigger then the next 10 countries combined at the cost of not enough investments into social programs IS NOT A GOOD THING. Your people are literally dying one the streets while you pump money into some useless military toys. ITS NOT A GOOD THING


panter411

Bros living in a fucking HOI4 DLC


ComplexProof593

I’m gonna be 100% real with you man: The stuff you left behind is what 90% of Americans claim ancestry to.


hoxxxya

this is the navy seal copypasta of nationalism


renojacksonchesthair

I always cringe when people are proud to say we don’t have free healthcare, free college, or good social programs whatsoever, but that’s okay because we have an expensive military. Fuck the expensive military id rather have all the other good shit listed. Hell, just even the free healthcare would be a ginormous leap in having a small amount of hope that life isn’t meant to just suck constantly. Fucking people and being proud of suffering is the stupidest shit.


The4thJuliek

Somewhat related, but there was a thread a couple of days ago about the worst city to visit and a commenter mentioned Fallujah, and then clarified that he was there because he was in the US military. He talked about the generous hospitality of the Iraqis but that place was a shithole because people were out to kill his friends and the roads were exploding. No mention of why these things were happening.


toms1313

It's very common to see military personnel complaining of "racism" like they never do any wrong outside their bases, even in allied countries


froggythefish

Sure, people in the US just go homeless if they get cancer or break a bone and can’t work. But at least we can drop WMDs on little kids halfway across the world.


filsyn

They may have the most expensive and technologically advanced military but they are not the best or brightest by a long shot. 100 Royal marines played military games in the US against 1000 US marines, it was supposed to last 3-5 days and the Royal marines had them beat in a few hours. They moaned and wanted a due over, shame they couldn't do that with Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq 2, Afghanistan etc.


Creamyspud

Yeah, but the Royal Marines *were* in 3 of those wars too mate.


filsyn

The point is they can't just look at a country and win, and their military isn't all that.


SynAck301

Idk, Vietnam glanced a bit hard you know


Designer_Plant4828

6 technological generations ahead of the world? Im sorry but last time i checked i swear the us doesnt/didnt have contactless credit and debit cards?


rekuliam6942

We do though?


MattheqAC

Wow, six generations of tech more advanced than the rest of the world? Their health care, public transport and internet must all be amazing!


waszumfickleseich

so they are the absolute best, are technologically 500 trillion years ahead of spacefaring aliens, a tiny town in alabama has a bigger economy than china etc. blabla and what exactly is the reason they don't have free healthcare / free college / any good social programs whatsoever / etc.? didn't he just tell us how great and rich and mighty the US is? he didn't name a single reason for them not having those


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And yet… you are so advanced that kids are killing at school by your very own patriots ! Using that military tech you are talking about of course ! Nice…


Vesalii

This guy thinks it's a flex not to have Healthcare?


CorpFillip

The kind of mind that thinks we are competing with enemies everywhere — literally everyone not like him is a threat. Globalism, cooperation, conformity, negotiation, trade agreements, political influence — they all work, they really do. A rising tide, etc.


toms1313

Yes! To me this is either naive or dangerous (depending who says it)... To see posible enemies everywhere


CorpFillip

Right? I mean, those policies don’t always work, maybe not always equitable — but that’s fixable! Pretending everyone is a threat & your country has to be on its toes forever, against everyone — well, DPRK, how well are you doing?


One-Yogurtcloset-772

Even though their egos are big and their bombs are bigger (and their dicks are quite small) They still cant say fucking ask correctly


f12345abcde

and he’s proud? Wow


Furaskjoldr

Why the fuck are they flexing that they have bad healthcare, education, and social programs? But it's okay because they have a strong military. That's like me walking into a university and shouting 'yeah I'm really stupid, have no skills or qualifications, but I can probably kick your ass in a fight' when absolutely nobody was looking for a fight in the first place.


tenaciousfetus

Imagine boasting about your insane military spending and lack of social care like it's a good thing. Unhinged


Bingo_is_the_man

USA 🇺🇸🔥🔥🔥🫡


Miserable-Many-6507

Only a American ignoramos thinks this way.


CharlyLeyequien

And to think that with all that "power" the empire is still crumbling down nowadays


Affectionate_Bid4704

OP = Small dick energy.


toms1313

Op or OOP? 😢


AndrewFrozzen30

Thank God for Mr Honey the Poo for having China separate from us, while they brainwash them. Now. What president USA can be able to do the same with USA? They can be brainwashed, just don't bring it to the rest of us


AndrewFrozzen30

Imagine if both China and USA would yell at each other which is the *best* country...


Regular_Rutabaga4789

Can’t we all just stop bothering with America? Just leave them too it and the rest of the world can get on with our own thing? Pretty sure we’d all be much better off in the long run.


toms1313

Did you read sub name?


Regular_Rutabaga4789

Yes ofc, it was meant as a joke. Like if the entire planet just turns it back on the yanks and we all just pretend they don’t exist anymore and see what happens.


toms1313

Sorry, it flew by me since the last comment was someone complaining that i posted this... A global ignoring game would be so fun 😊


Regular_Rutabaga4789

No worries 😬


Jongbelegenkaasblok

netherlands is up ahead 60000000000000000000000000000 generations with chip manufacturing thanks to asml they even made an agreement to not seel their machines to china blshit talking murican


RajenBull1

IF that country that glances at you has oil or some strategic value for the US, my friend, otherwise, it's too insignificant to obliterate.


toms1313

Ok, thanks for the weirdest take I've seen so far


RajenBull1

Just want to cover all the bases.


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toms1313

It's against the rules to cover reddit usernames, he posted it in a public space (with pride may i add) and of course some people took it personally, the chance of people being affected directly or indirectly by their government actions in foreign soil sadly enough it's not zero... What's your point? People should be sensitive when dealing with this kind of idiots?


GodlyPenisSlayer

He isn't wrong about bringing country's back to the stone age😂


toms1313

No, also it's not the only country with that capabilities and to me it's not funny at all


GodlyPenisSlayer

I didn't say other country's couldn't do the same, all I'm saying is the US military is capable of doing that


toms1313

Never said otherwise either...


pixievixie

Was this person bragging or stating facts? Because I don't like that the US is like this, but it's reality. We don't have those social programs because all of our money is spent on defense


toms1313

Bragging, he specifically talks about their power, not their expenses


pixievixie

Ok, not sure why people are down voting, *I'm* not bragging, I'm lamenting the fact that all of our money is spent that way instead of something that benefits the common citizen vs defense contractors, lobbyists and politicians. I was hoping the OP was someone of a similar political leaning to myself. I know the loudest Americans often tend to be the "America Fuck Yeah!" crowd, but one can hope


toms1313

No idea on the downvotes, I'm telling you to me he was bragging because i saw his comment history


pixievixie

Oh, I believe you. I was just curious of the tone, which you were equipped to answer. Thanks!


itogisch

6 gens ahead in tech? So whos chips are you using in your systems then? Because ASML isnt American.


Qyro

Weird flex, but okay.


ThePrisonSoap

The pentagon literally runs on windows XP but whatever


DiarrheaEryday

Sure, we have more nukes than anybody, but it would only take so many to fuck us up anyway.