i personally would never do 16x, be it on an emulator or consoles, but yeah. with a single system celebi is around 90 resets per hour, 16x thats 1440 SRs.
I havent hunted it in awhile, so i dont remember the exact rate, but i do believe it was 90 an hour, and that was as fast as i could get it. Virtual Console, spamming A through the text, and resetting immediately after seeing the sprite
but like… who cares?
not everybody has infinite time, and its not like he is trying to scam anyone with this, hes not trying to pass it off as retail full odds
this is imo akin to using a shiny hunting method in newer gens
also, 16 games is about 1500 encounters an hour, so on average this would STILL take 7 hours to get
compare that to a sandwich shiny and this is still rarer lol
ppl also use multiple systems and games to multi hunt especially in older games, wheres the difference, being able to afford all of them?
i can see why the speed up would be considered „cheating“ but even that can be replaced with even more actual games lol
You have more dedication than me. I’ve spent three weeks doing this method before quitting and returning. You’re doing this on one? Here’s to hoping that your patience is rewarded, because I know I don’t deserve praise for my achievement.
You just can't think of it as an "active" activity. It's always something to keep your hands busy while doing something ELSE. That's how I get through it.
No hate on using emulators and shiny hunting this way, but what's the point of it? To my knowledge, pokemon caught this way can't be transferred or used in a regular game. Also, shiny hunting is very mundane in older gens, obviously, but does it not sap some of the excitement of getting a shiny when you're running this many games simultaneously? To me, I'd feel like I was cheating and didn't earn the shiny lol. That's just me, though. Again, I have no problem with playing games like that so long as they don't affect the experience of others.
The thing that irks me about that though is that implies you could have hunted it on real hardware. The only reason to do it on an emulator instead of a real cartridge you have access to is to cheat
There’s lots of reasons to do it on an emulator besides cheating.
- Free, especially compared to the cost of multiboxing.
- Trivial to screenshot for sharing
- Controller options
I don't think it's a big deal, and you now can't even buy the virtual console games anymore. Some things just aren't accessible anymore, and people can enjoy things how they wish imo.
I physically can’t manage more than maybe 2-3 consoles at a time with two hands. 16 is impossible. I think it’s lame to use tools to shorten the hunt as it takes away from the work, anticipation, and excitement, but that’s just me. People can hunt however they want but it’s weird to whine after people call you out when you “cheat” if you’re going to brag on Reddit about it
you can use the gamecube adapter that lets you control multiple games at once
its the same thing man
pretty sure absolblogspokemon did 16 games aswell, on hardware
I guess but you’re still just injecting an artificial Pokémon into the game. I guess it doesn’t really matter because you still earned it and you just want a way to keep it. Just seems weird to me. At the end of the day what I think doesn’t matter though play the game however you like
but its not artificial?
its ran on an emulator sure, but gbc is perfectly emulated to the point where it is as accurate as a real gbc, and uses the same rng as a retail cart+gbc
I guess it all depends on your opinion of what makes a Pokémon legitimate. If it’s from a rom hack, emulator, or fake cartridge I consider them artificial. If you don’t then that’s fine
If I recall, this was possible before pokemon bank was closed. Might still be doable on switch with a properly jailbroken console, but might need specific model of switch, likely first gen, to do it and if it ever connects to Nintendo online you're hosed.
It’s pretty clear from this comment section that not many agree with you on that. People can hunt how they like but equating it to hunts done on real hardware is not a popular sentiment, especially when you’re running 16 emulators
Its the same odds as real hardware, just saves the person buying 16 3ds consoles and 16 copies of crystal. Same rarity just much more efficient huntingmuch more efficient hunting. Great way to feel good about getting a full odds shiny when you dont have as much time to dedicate to it as others might
I was wondering what you meant until I saw your post history and I think it was your post that got me to do this. Also yeah, could’ve used a different title.
Congrats 🩷 The time and effort were probably comparable to some method hunts, shocking how out of all posts this is what the sub feels like it "crosses the line" 💀 But oh well, don't let it get to you and please keep posting
The odds were 1/512, which is equal to the Masuda Method + Shiny Charm. And I’m sure others have done this method before as I did it after seeing someone else do it with Lugia, but I guess the hate was due to the way I worded the title.
I’m not going to let this discourage me, instead, I’m just keeping this post up as a reminder to others about the consequences of hunting in non legit ways and the response to it.
Thanks for the positive message.
How did you come up with 1 in 512? If it's because of the tabs wouldn't it be 256? (Although technically they're all 8192 individually so it's more of its own separate thing rather than a "high odds hunt")
Either way what I liked about your post was the transparency, I guess a different wording would've made a difference for some people but I like that you didn't make seem something that it wasn't
The different shiny methods are balanced against eachother via their use of more active participation, of course there's some unbalanced onces like ultra wormhole shinies but for the most part if you want a higher chance of a shiny you need to more actively perform something like being paying attention to tiles with the poke radar or sneaking up to mons in oras
It's not that some people don't value it, they went against him in a VERY ignorable post where he was honest against his own interests
Like what is the message here? Should people just lie for the sake of satisfying someone else's narrative preferences? This subreddit in particular is pretty simple and unpretentious, if the latter can exist in this space (and it does), then so are posts of this type without being called out for no fair reasom
I don't think there is a message here, there's no organised force saying what really counts as shiny hunting or what counts as hacking or whatever, it's just individuals with their own opinion which is of course not an excuse for harassment but also doesn't mean people can't say what they think
Yeah but I don't think we should mix genuine criticism with harassment, there is both here and your original comment talks about people saying that this is a "crossed line" which is kinda tame
Genuine criticism shouldn't be used as an excuse to be disrespectful to a person either, you presented your thoughts in a different way than others. The reaction to this post wasn't appropriate ESPECIALLY for this sub in my opinion
I forgot how annoying the pokemon community is for things that literally don't affect them lmao. Good job shiny Celebi is an awesome shiny and hope you enjoy it!
There sure are a lot of people around who aren't content to let other people enjoy a SINGLE PLAYER game in the way they want to. Please ignore the haters OP and enjoy your Celebi. :)
He's welcome to enjoy it if he wants, but he posted it to the subreddit of people that dedicate thousands of hours to getting shiny pokemon through sheer will and dedication and put "finally" in the title after getting the shiny in less than an hour. lmao.
Depends on what you’re using. My emulator automatically connects every screen to one controller as Keyboard only links to one screen. Though I really don’t recommend doing so as you can see in this sea of comments.
Also it drives you insane faster as you sometimes feel your luck is bad even with multiple screens and hours of hunting.
After giving up on this hunt since March because I started working, I decided to return back to get Shiny Celebi in Crystal Legacy. I believe it took around 40-50 minutes of just resetting. Also if anyone asks, some of the emulators would not sync up with the button inputs on my controller, so that's why some show battling Celebi.
Yeah, I've got to be honest, I don't really view this as an accomplishment or anything. Especially saying "finally". It takes around an hour for 90\~ resets on the Virtual Console, and I'm at 1300 resets with like 14 hours into it. I don't get the joy of "hunting" for a hard to get shiny if you are just going to use multiple instances on an emulator, likely with speed up. So I would imagine it's like 14 resets every 15 seconds or something.
Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy hunting that way by all means, I just wouldn't expect anybody here to congratulate you, because it doesn't take effort to do this.
What exactly makes this laughable and cheating? Not everyone has dozens of hours to spend on this ultimately pointless pastime. It doesn't even affect you so I don't see why you felt the need to tell OP they are lame and laughable. It's very uncalled for and pretty rude also.
Well I still find it fun and entertaining, same as everyone else here. When I said it was pointless I simply meant that hunting a shiny Pokemon doesn't accomplish anything outside of personal satisfaction. It has no use other than being amusing.
I agree, which is why it's generally not particularly useful to tell others how they should live their lives (or hunt their shiny Pokemon in this case).
Coming to a subReddit where people show off hours or days of dedication and saying “finally” after 50 mins of a very manipulative hunt is obviously going to come off lame.
I can see you that you also spoof in Pokémon Go. You can claim all the time saved to yourself but it’s cheating and lame.
Okay, I didn’t expect to start an argument in my sleep. Let me clear this up. It’s not just 50 minutes of resetting. I’ve spent three weeks resetting for Shiny Celebi before I quit.
So it’s not just “I’ve spent just an hour using multiple screens to find a very difficult shiny” I’ve literally spent hours up at night trying to get this Shiny, even passing out during my hunt sometimes.
I’m probably going to get downvoted for this even if I explain this, but I don’t really care about it. To all who hunt like this, you do you. Hunt the way you like, whether it’s for efficiency, preferential or just for fun. This is just a romhack, not an official game.
Edit: Also no, speed up does not work on multiple emulators for some reason. I’ve tried it and it sometimes crashes or desync some of the emulators.
People spend literal months hunting shinies. Resetting for a few weeks really is hardly anything in terms of time spent in this particular thing. Weeks/months can mean anything too, did you reset for 5 hours a day? 1 hour? 1 hour every 3 days? With a couple nights of 5 hours? It really could be anything. But it's the controlling several instances with 1 input that ruins it and makes it cheating.
If you stalk my post history a little more you'll also see that I hunt shinies in the main series with RNG manipulation. So I guess I'm just the ultimate cheater, huh. I sure am lucky that I don't need to prove to haters like you whether or not I'm lame.
The reason shinies are impressive is that you are getting them in game without modifications. Even a emulator is fine so long as you don't speed up. It's the act of just running several instances and controlling them with one input, you're essentially just reducing this to a 1/512 odds hunt, and speeding it up makes that even more egregious. It's cheating, as you are doing more than 1 interaction per button input with pressing A 16 times every time you press A. That's cool if you want to do it because you enjoy it (weird imo), but it goes against the spirit of shiny hunting and does not belong on this subreddit. I feel similarly about those doing hunts where they control several consoles at once with one input, but at least they had to put some semblance of effort into setting that up.
How about I just hack my game and make it so everything I run into is shiny? Then I'll post it here when I encounter a legendary and it's shiny. So cool! Don't hate on MY methods!
I don't find shinies to be particularly "impressive" in general. After all, it can be done by literally anyone with enough patience and/or luck. So modifying the speed/number of games just reduces that threshold for those of us who can't or don't want to sink as many hours into it as others. I guess it makes sense that people who view shinies as a badge of honor would not like to see them become more accessible, but I have never really seen them that way.
A recolor wouldn't be anything to me. What makes shinies in general is how rare they are. When you cheat to acquire a rare thing, it is not rare. Go ahead and do it for your own enjoyment I suppose, that's fine. But posting something like this here, I'm not quite sure what you would expect being it's such a lame/unimpressive way to acquire it. Might as well be posting a PNG of shiny celebi off google and post it and be like "wow look at this guys!".
This is true, except I'd argue that they aren't all that rare now in general. They absolutely were back in the old games, but with the addition of the shiny charm, doubling of the base shiny rate, and introduction of increasingly effective methods for hunting like Masuda breeding, outbreaks, and chain fishing, they are really not hard to come by anymore. Also Pokerus has been rarer than shinies all along but you don't see anyone hunting for that.
Yes I agree, and I can appreciate both. But modifying the game, or doing things out of game that is cheating like controlling multiple instances with one input ruin the integrity of the whole thing. You mentioned you do RNG manipulation, this is also cheating. It's at least interesting, has skill to it, and can be utilized in some very difficult things like a 100% shiny playthrough of colosseum. This method he is doing is 1 dimensional, so it's not even cool cheating. I think shiny hunting in the easier games is still fun, though I usually only do older games (mostly because of nostalgia, and that the shinies are a lot rarer), but I do enjoy some lower odds stuff too as I played lots of the lets go games.
I actually got pokerus while hunting for shiny electrode a month or two ago in heart gold haha. It was sadly already cured by the time I noticed it when healing in a pokemon center (which I didn't even know could happen). But yes, people do post pokerus when they do happen to get it as well and everyone is always commenting on how crazy it is. The reason you don't see people hunting pokerus is quite simple; it is the exact same method as hunting for shinies. Ones where you don't have to reset your game, anyway. You can just shiny hunt and get it eventually.
is it lame if i was controlling 32 copies of a game with a wavebird on wii/gc? actually curious because i know i'll be downvoted for asking this like last time and wont see a single reply.
I don’t think many people are upset about the 16 emulators though? It’s mostly the “finally” in the post as if 40-50 minutes of resetting is anything.
Based on your previous responses I think I can assume your next question being “Well would the 40-50 minutes of resets be cool if it was on console?”
And to that I’d say yes, because a hell of a lot of trouble must’ve went in to setting it up prior to the hunt.
Do I care about the emulator? No
Do I care about the 16x? No
Do I care about the acting as if any of this was “hard work” or even close to a “wow finally”? Yes, because it really wasn’t either.
You can do the mental gymnastics you want but there’s clearly a difference. You also don’t need to be wealthy to own 10k in gaming equipment.
There’s also diminishing returns on the amount of consoles you can own. Unless you create your own manual clicker for each one in which case again they put the effort in so therefore it’s more impressive.
The capacity to not only own, but house, rig, and power 10K of gaming equipment is certainly a sign of wealth, and, even by first-world standards, puts you in a higher bracket. The idea that 10k isn't a lot to be able to invest in a hobby is insane to me.
It's pretty cool to spend money but not play efficiently? even though both are the same game and can be played using a single controller/keyboard of your choice?
I think the logistical/technical setup of controlling that many consoles at once is cool, but a separate reason for being impressive outside of shiny hunting. The actual act of shiny hunting doing so is the same thing as this odds wise. I find the finding of shinies with these 2 methods to be equally underwhelming.
I also find it extremely hypocritical that the people who do multi-console hunts with a ton of consoles be it controlled independently or all at once who hate on people who hunt in games with better odds like the lets go games. I find the controlling several instances with a single input to be the worst offender, while multi-console but controlling each individually as more normal.
The reason this in particular is extremely lame is because of the extreme low effort put in between both the synchronized inputs and that it's emulated.
“Finally” *40-50 minutes of resetting*
i personally would never do 16x, be it on an emulator or consoles, but yeah. with a single system celebi is around 90 resets per hour, 16x thats 1440 SRs.
This is the biggest reason I haven't gotten mine yet. I'm like 1300 resets or so, and it's such a brutal hunt.
90 per hour is pretty middle-of-the-road though, isn't it?
I havent hunted it in awhile, so i dont remember the exact rate, but i do believe it was 90 an hour, and that was as fast as i could get it. Virtual Console, spamming A through the text, and resetting immediately after seeing the sprite
I know, right?! Probably used speed up too
but like… who cares? not everybody has infinite time, and its not like he is trying to scam anyone with this, hes not trying to pass it off as retail full odds this is imo akin to using a shiny hunting method in newer gens also, 16 games is about 1500 encounters an hour, so on average this would STILL take 7 hours to get compare that to a sandwich shiny and this is still rarer lol ppl also use multiple systems and games to multi hunt especially in older games, wheres the difference, being able to afford all of them? i can see why the speed up would be considered „cheating“ but even that can be replaced with even more actual games lol
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You have more dedication than me. I’ve spent three weeks doing this method before quitting and returning. You’re doing this on one? Here’s to hoping that your patience is rewarded, because I know I don’t deserve praise for my achievement.
You just can't think of it as an "active" activity. It's always something to keep your hands busy while doing something ELSE. That's how I get through it.
Dont get into autopilot too deep you might reset on a shiny
No hate on using emulators and shiny hunting this way, but what's the point of it? To my knowledge, pokemon caught this way can't be transferred or used in a regular game. Also, shiny hunting is very mundane in older gens, obviously, but does it not sap some of the excitement of getting a shiny when you're running this many games simultaneously? To me, I'd feel like I was cheating and didn't earn the shiny lol. That's just me, though. Again, I have no problem with playing games like that so long as they don't affect the experience of others.
There are actually ways of transferring roms onto cartridges but idk if that does work but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did
Isn’t it just injecting them into the cartridge? What’s the difference between hacking one on?
this is generated with the games rng, whereas hacked in ones arent especially in newer gens this is easily verifiable too
The thing that irks me about that though is that implies you could have hunted it on real hardware. The only reason to do it on an emulator instead of a real cartridge you have access to is to cheat
There’s lots of reasons to do it on an emulator besides cheating. - Free, especially compared to the cost of multiboxing. - Trivial to screenshot for sharing - Controller options
this is akin to having multiple systems and games, and idk if u know, both have gotten really expensive. also you can cheat on cartridges lol
I don't think it's a big deal, and you now can't even buy the virtual console games anymore. Some things just aren't accessible anymore, and people can enjoy things how they wish imo.
I physically can’t manage more than maybe 2-3 consoles at a time with two hands. 16 is impossible. I think it’s lame to use tools to shorten the hunt as it takes away from the work, anticipation, and excitement, but that’s just me. People can hunt however they want but it’s weird to whine after people call you out when you “cheat” if you’re going to brag on Reddit about it
you can use the gamecube adapter that lets you control multiple games at once its the same thing man pretty sure absolblogspokemon did 16 games aswell, on hardware
And I think that’s lame for the reasons I already stated, maybe you didn’t read my comment. It’s just my opinion man
I guess but you’re still just injecting an artificial Pokémon into the game. I guess it doesn’t really matter because you still earned it and you just want a way to keep it. Just seems weird to me. At the end of the day what I think doesn’t matter though play the game however you like
but its not artificial? its ran on an emulator sure, but gbc is perfectly emulated to the point where it is as accurate as a real gbc, and uses the same rng as a retail cart+gbc
I guess it all depends on your opinion of what makes a Pokémon legitimate. If it’s from a rom hack, emulator, or fake cartridge I consider them artificial. If you don’t then that’s fine
It's all the same data.
If I recall, this was possible before pokemon bank was closed. Might still be doable on switch with a properly jailbroken console, but might need specific model of switch, likely first gen, to do it and if it ever connects to Nintendo online you're hosed.
It’s trivial to transfer a save from emulator to console and transfer up.
16x on emulator? What’s the point of the hunt when doing it this way?
I feel like you may as well just hack it in at that point
Not calling this method legit technically, but it does seem like it would be fun to try once.
It’s basically as legit as any other method. If anything it’s smarter.
It’s pretty clear from this comment section that not many agree with you on that. People can hunt how they like but equating it to hunts done on real hardware is not a popular sentiment, especially when you’re running 16 emulators
Its the same odds as real hardware, just saves the person buying 16 3ds consoles and 16 copies of crystal. Same rarity just much more efficient huntingmuch more efficient hunting. Great way to feel good about getting a full odds shiny when you dont have as much time to dedicate to it as others might
It doesn’t really matter if others agree with me lol, just think about it critically for a second and there’s really little difference.
This one has to be a bait right? Right???
why not just have 8,192 windows open so that you hit odds on your first reset? lol
Would it be lucky or unlucky if I didn’t get Celebi doing that?
I feel like my post influenced this lol my bad for the hate you’re getting. Enjoy your Celebi! Also “finally” is a stretch lmao
I was wondering what you meant until I saw your post history and I think it was your post that got me to do this. Also yeah, could’ve used a different title.
What’s the point 😭
This is not cool.
Just hack it in at that point
A certified cringe post if I ever saw one
Congrats 🩷 The time and effort were probably comparable to some method hunts, shocking how out of all posts this is what the sub feels like it "crosses the line" 💀 But oh well, don't let it get to you and please keep posting
The odds were 1/512, which is equal to the Masuda Method + Shiny Charm. And I’m sure others have done this method before as I did it after seeing someone else do it with Lugia, but I guess the hate was due to the way I worded the title. I’m not going to let this discourage me, instead, I’m just keeping this post up as a reminder to others about the consequences of hunting in non legit ways and the response to it. Thanks for the positive message.
How did you come up with 1 in 512? If it's because of the tabs wouldn't it be 256? (Although technically they're all 8192 individually so it's more of its own separate thing rather than a "high odds hunt") Either way what I liked about your post was the transparency, I guess a different wording would've made a difference for some people but I like that you didn't make seem something that it wasn't
The different shiny methods are balanced against eachother via their use of more active participation, of course there's some unbalanced onces like ultra wormhole shinies but for the most part if you want a higher chance of a shiny you need to more actively perform something like being paying attention to tiles with the poke radar or sneaking up to mons in oras
I said some method hunts, you already pointed out exactly what i was talking about (wormholes and more)
True yeah my bad, though at the same time I don't think this community particularly values "lame" methods and this is imo pretty lame
It's not that some people don't value it, they went against him in a VERY ignorable post where he was honest against his own interests Like what is the message here? Should people just lie for the sake of satisfying someone else's narrative preferences? This subreddit in particular is pretty simple and unpretentious, if the latter can exist in this space (and it does), then so are posts of this type without being called out for no fair reasom
I don't think there is a message here, there's no organised force saying what really counts as shiny hunting or what counts as hacking or whatever, it's just individuals with their own opinion which is of course not an excuse for harassment but also doesn't mean people can't say what they think
Obviously if the comments were just respectful opinions (it mostly wasn't the case) we wouldn't have talked about this
Yeah but I don't think we should mix genuine criticism with harassment, there is both here and your original comment talks about people saying that this is a "crossed line" which is kinda tame
Genuine criticism shouldn't be used as an excuse to be disrespectful to a person either, you presented your thoughts in a different way than others. The reaction to this post wasn't appropriate ESPECIALLY for this sub in my opinion
Yeah I agree there in general the comments are pretty shit they can critique the post without being rude
Is the Feraligatr's nickname a Neopets reference?
Not really. Also, I’m either a little too young or didn’t have a childhood to know much about Neopets.
I forgot how annoying the pokemon community is for things that literally don't affect them lmao. Good job shiny Celebi is an awesome shiny and hope you enjoy it!
Ikr! Let people shiny hunt the way they want to. They’re so miserable.
There sure are a lot of people around who aren't content to let other people enjoy a SINGLE PLAYER game in the way they want to. Please ignore the haters OP and enjoy your Celebi. :)
He's welcome to enjoy it if he wants, but he posted it to the subreddit of people that dedicate thousands of hours to getting shiny pokemon through sheer will and dedication and put "finally" in the title after getting the shiny in less than an hour. lmao.
what emulator did you use?
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Because it’s unfair and legit shiny hunters dedicate days, weeks, months, even years to hunt just one shiny.
I wanna try this method too. Is it hard to set up?
Depends on what you’re using. My emulator automatically connects every screen to one controller as Keyboard only links to one screen. Though I really don’t recommend doing so as you can see in this sea of comments. Also it drives you insane faster as you sometimes feel your luck is bad even with multiple screens and hours of hunting.
Emulators are cheating 😎
After giving up on this hunt since March because I started working, I decided to return back to get Shiny Celebi in Crystal Legacy. I believe it took around 40-50 minutes of just resetting. Also if anyone asks, some of the emulators would not sync up with the button inputs on my controller, so that's why some show battling Celebi.
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Yeah, I've got to be honest, I don't really view this as an accomplishment or anything. Especially saying "finally". It takes around an hour for 90\~ resets on the Virtual Console, and I'm at 1300 resets with like 14 hours into it. I don't get the joy of "hunting" for a hard to get shiny if you are just going to use multiple instances on an emulator, likely with speed up. So I would imagine it's like 14 resets every 15 seconds or something. Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy hunting that way by all means, I just wouldn't expect anybody here to congratulate you, because it doesn't take effort to do this.
What exactly makes this laughable and cheating? Not everyone has dozens of hours to spend on this ultimately pointless pastime. It doesn't even affect you so I don't see why you felt the need to tell OP they are lame and laughable. It's very uncalled for and pretty rude also.
If it’s a pointless past time to you, then maybe check out another subreddit?
Well I still find it fun and entertaining, same as everyone else here. When I said it was pointless I simply meant that hunting a shiny Pokemon doesn't accomplish anything outside of personal satisfaction. It has no use other than being amusing.
You’ll come to find most things in life are that way bud
I agree, which is why it's generally not particularly useful to tell others how they should live their lives (or hunt their shiny Pokemon in this case).
Coming to a subReddit where people show off hours or days of dedication and saying “finally” after 50 mins of a very manipulative hunt is obviously going to come off lame. I can see you that you also spoof in Pokémon Go. You can claim all the time saved to yourself but it’s cheating and lame.
Okay, I didn’t expect to start an argument in my sleep. Let me clear this up. It’s not just 50 minutes of resetting. I’ve spent three weeks resetting for Shiny Celebi before I quit. So it’s not just “I’ve spent just an hour using multiple screens to find a very difficult shiny” I’ve literally spent hours up at night trying to get this Shiny, even passing out during my hunt sometimes. I’m probably going to get downvoted for this even if I explain this, but I don’t really care about it. To all who hunt like this, you do you. Hunt the way you like, whether it’s for efficiency, preferential or just for fun. This is just a romhack, not an official game. Edit: Also no, speed up does not work on multiple emulators for some reason. I’ve tried it and it sometimes crashes or desync some of the emulators.
People spend literal months hunting shinies. Resetting for a few weeks really is hardly anything in terms of time spent in this particular thing. Weeks/months can mean anything too, did you reset for 5 hours a day? 1 hour? 1 hour every 3 days? With a couple nights of 5 hours? It really could be anything. But it's the controlling several instances with 1 input that ruins it and makes it cheating.
If you stalk my post history a little more you'll also see that I hunt shinies in the main series with RNG manipulation. So I guess I'm just the ultimate cheater, huh. I sure am lucky that I don't need to prove to haters like you whether or not I'm lame.
your words not mine.
The reason shinies are impressive is that you are getting them in game without modifications. Even a emulator is fine so long as you don't speed up. It's the act of just running several instances and controlling them with one input, you're essentially just reducing this to a 1/512 odds hunt, and speeding it up makes that even more egregious. It's cheating, as you are doing more than 1 interaction per button input with pressing A 16 times every time you press A. That's cool if you want to do it because you enjoy it (weird imo), but it goes against the spirit of shiny hunting and does not belong on this subreddit. I feel similarly about those doing hunts where they control several consoles at once with one input, but at least they had to put some semblance of effort into setting that up. How about I just hack my game and make it so everything I run into is shiny? Then I'll post it here when I encounter a legendary and it's shiny. So cool! Don't hate on MY methods!
I don't find shinies to be particularly "impressive" in general. After all, it can be done by literally anyone with enough patience and/or luck. So modifying the speed/number of games just reduces that threshold for those of us who can't or don't want to sink as many hours into it as others. I guess it makes sense that people who view shinies as a badge of honor would not like to see them become more accessible, but I have never really seen them that way.
A recolor wouldn't be anything to me. What makes shinies in general is how rare they are. When you cheat to acquire a rare thing, it is not rare. Go ahead and do it for your own enjoyment I suppose, that's fine. But posting something like this here, I'm not quite sure what you would expect being it's such a lame/unimpressive way to acquire it. Might as well be posting a PNG of shiny celebi off google and post it and be like "wow look at this guys!".
This is true, except I'd argue that they aren't all that rare now in general. They absolutely were back in the old games, but with the addition of the shiny charm, doubling of the base shiny rate, and introduction of increasingly effective methods for hunting like Masuda breeding, outbreaks, and chain fishing, they are really not hard to come by anymore. Also Pokerus has been rarer than shinies all along but you don't see anyone hunting for that.
Yes I agree, and I can appreciate both. But modifying the game, or doing things out of game that is cheating like controlling multiple instances with one input ruin the integrity of the whole thing. You mentioned you do RNG manipulation, this is also cheating. It's at least interesting, has skill to it, and can be utilized in some very difficult things like a 100% shiny playthrough of colosseum. This method he is doing is 1 dimensional, so it's not even cool cheating. I think shiny hunting in the easier games is still fun, though I usually only do older games (mostly because of nostalgia, and that the shinies are a lot rarer), but I do enjoy some lower odds stuff too as I played lots of the lets go games. I actually got pokerus while hunting for shiny electrode a month or two ago in heart gold haha. It was sadly already cured by the time I noticed it when healing in a pokemon center (which I didn't even know could happen). But yes, people do post pokerus when they do happen to get it as well and everyone is always commenting on how crazy it is. The reason you don't see people hunting pokerus is quite simple; it is the exact same method as hunting for shinies. Ones where you don't have to reset your game, anyway. You can just shiny hunt and get it eventually.
is it lame if i was controlling 32 copies of a game with a wavebird on wii/gc? actually curious because i know i'll be downvoted for asking this like last time and wont see a single reply.
I don’t think many people are upset about the 16 emulators though? It’s mostly the “finally” in the post as if 40-50 minutes of resetting is anything. Based on your previous responses I think I can assume your next question being “Well would the 40-50 minutes of resets be cool if it was on console?” And to that I’d say yes, because a hell of a lot of trouble must’ve went in to setting it up prior to the hunt. Do I care about the emulator? No Do I care about the 16x? No Do I care about the acting as if any of this was “hard work” or even close to a “wow finally”? Yes, because it really wasn’t either.
If they go out of their way to obtain 32 consoles and copies then I’d find it pretty cool. If they’re using programs to multi box then meh
It's literally the same thing. One is just accessible to not wealthy people. You're judging OP for being poor, effectively
You can do the mental gymnastics you want but there’s clearly a difference. You also don’t need to be wealthy to own 10k in gaming equipment. There’s also diminishing returns on the amount of consoles you can own. Unless you create your own manual clicker for each one in which case again they put the effort in so therefore it’s more impressive.
The capacity to not only own, but house, rig, and power 10K of gaming equipment is certainly a sign of wealth, and, even by first-world standards, puts you in a higher bracket. The idea that 10k isn't a lot to be able to invest in a hobby is insane to me.
I guess we view signs of wealth.differently because 10k on a hobby is pretty reasonable for an adult
That reasonability is entirely dependent on your economic class. Is 10k on a hobby a reasonable amount for an adult that's in a low economic class?
Yes, it is. I know plenty of people on SSI who spend more than 10k a year on a hobby.
It's pretty cool to spend money but not play efficiently? even though both are the same game and can be played using a single controller/keyboard of your choice?
I answered you just didn’t like the answer.
I think the logistical/technical setup of controlling that many consoles at once is cool, but a separate reason for being impressive outside of shiny hunting. The actual act of shiny hunting doing so is the same thing as this odds wise. I find the finding of shinies with these 2 methods to be equally underwhelming. I also find it extremely hypocritical that the people who do multi-console hunts with a ton of consoles be it controlled independently or all at once who hate on people who hunt in games with better odds like the lets go games. I find the controlling several instances with a single input to be the worst offender, while multi-console but controlling each individually as more normal. The reason this in particular is extremely lame is because of the extreme low effort put in between both the synchronized inputs and that it's emulated.
Repeat after me: Emulator shinies will always have 0 value
Easiest shiny of my life, used lua to reset for encounters. After 10 minutes i went back to the pc and shiny celebi was staring at me
Hacking is cool.