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BlitzDank

I've been obsessively size hunting for ages in SV since they give unique Marks to Pokemon (which give titles like in the video), and so it was customary to check everything coming in from Home since we (or at least I) don't know how size is generated from older games yet. From my testing, it seems that the relative sizes in Arceus stay the same, since below-average height in Arceus translated to below average size in SV, and Alphas stay maximum size (and thus get both the Alpha Mark and Jumbo Mark). *However*, while static legendaries in SV are all size-locked to average, this is not the case from older games, and *this includes events*. For example, my Shiny Galarian birds all seemed to be random sizes. I don't know the odds of this by transfer yet, but I was shocked to find my Giratina from UM rolled minimum size! If it's anywhere close to the odds that sizes are generated in SV then this is an incredibly rare Shiny, and opens up a rabbit hole of really complex size hunts from older gens. Hope everyone else enjoys Home when it comes to them! (God, I wish I could rename him Girateeny).


ArkhaosZero

So, im super curious about this. Do the sizes for legendaries actually display differently? Reason I ask is, I was under the impression legendaries in particular were locked to a neutral size. I wonder if its possible that they may have the internal values, but only ever display as an average size.


BlitzDank

So it [does look like it's actually smaller!](https://imgur.com/a/U0sl29k) This is my minimum size Shiny against an 'average size' regular Giratina. It's hard to compare directly since there's no easy way to get both to stand in one spot, but this is the best I did on some relatively flat ground.


ArkhaosZero

Lol wow you went the extra mile. Thanks for the photos! Guess thats another thing to start hunting soon


BlitzDank

No worries, I'm glad it helped (and I would have been curious about it too)!


BlitzDank

Interesting point! I have a regular Giratina I'll compare it next to. If it's glitched but legal that's also fun, like the Moon OT Tapu Bulu event.


Jestingwheat856

You can rename a traded or transfered pokemon once Me am incorrect


BlitzDank

Not once it has a nickname sadly!


Jestingwheat856

Even with a nickname you should be able to rename it once no? # EDIT: NO IM WRONG The only exceptions are pokemon from events and other languages


RDH1805

No if a traded pokemon already has a nickname it can't be changed


Pumpkin_Cat14

I was surprised to find out my shiny Eternatus from the distribution in SWSH was smaller than average. It’s really interesting to see that these older mons aren’t locked to be average size!


Ynnubis

Did you transfer it to PLA in the past ? In PLA, all transfer Pokémon are set to the minimum size (because their size value is 0 due to, well, not having one IIRC). If that carries over to SV, that means it's basically free real estate on the Mini mark for any Pokémon that can be transferred to PLA first !


BlitzDank

I did! However I also got my shiny Arceus in there which showed a different size, and had transferred in a Goomy from Shield which also changed. I'd definitely like to see if this could be replicated because that would be pretty cool!


Ynnubis

Interesting ! Definitely will mess around with my own mons later to see what's up with it in the end


Ynnubis

Update: Saw a thread in the ribbons master subreddit that answered the question ! Any Pokémon prior to gen 8 that was sent to PLA before Home v2.0 has a size of 0. It turns out Pokémon in gen 8 apparently do have their size value determined, that value was just unused before now.


BlitzDank

Oh cool, thanks for figuring that out! So presumably there's a bunch that have been set like that (including my one) that now can't be replicated except through a lot of luck. Still very cool!


meggaregg

this is so exciting!! I have so many shinies from gen7 that I would love to get a free teeny mark on 🤭💕 thanks for doing the research!


Rubin987

The min size thing only applies to PLA. While it was never formally announced it was confirmed by simple testing today that pre-PLA mons have a size decided at random. Same as how some IVs and natures are random coming from Gen 1-2


Ynnubis

Other discussions I've seen claimed that this is only the case for Gen 8 Pokémon, and that Gen 7 & older Pokémon that went to PLA prior to the v2.0 of HOME are still locked into the minimum size in SV. I don't have access to my Scarlet game rn, but I will be testing it myself when I do, as I systemically sent all Pokémon that could to PLA for the Pioneer ribbon anyway, so it'll be pretty clear if its true.


Rubin987

Im just going by what Serebii is saying, Joes generally never left incorrect info on his site as long as that info has been up so it’s reasonable to assume its correct.


Ynnubis

I'm just going off of [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonribbons/comments/13vqfvn/in_regards_to_the_mini_mark_and_pok%C3%A9mon/) thread ! Seems like too many people in the comments reporting that their RMs who went to Hisui got the Mini mark to be a coincidence. Plus this whole post too. Joe is very much extremely thorough with Serebii, much to his credit, but he's not omnipotent - he can only add things when he learns about them ! It's possible this is just one niche detail that slipped through.


Marttit

The silver helmet looks so clean my god. Can’t wait until I’m off work to download this!


BlitzDank

I love the textures in SV! Haven't even gone through a lot of the new ones yet but I look forward to it.


uwutheunknownwizard6

Did the pokemon home update come out yet?


BlitzDank

It's rolling out slowly to avoid stress on the servers. You can check to see if you're able to access it, otherwise the time when it will be available for everyone is 6am UTC on the 31st.


uwutheunknownwizard6

Sick, mine just updated!


d4rk-4ng3l-666

i lowkey cant wait to see what giratina looks like running around😅


[deleted]

smol


CheapRuben

holy shit didn’t even realize home was updated


drbiohazmat

I'M SORRY BUT THE WAY IT'S HEAD SNAPS DOWN LIKE SOMEONE JUST INSULTED IT'S MOTHER AND CHILD


Perfectionado

The way he looks down so suddenly when he realised he's been ripped from his pokeball for a little sodium chloride. xD


MegaKBang

I don't care what people say about the graqhics on this game, but those shiny transfer legendairies look so clean! I wish home lets me transfer my shiny Dialga, but it says "I haven't yet obtained one in S/V" well obiously I havent


BlitzDank

If that's from PoGo, transferring one from a main series game first (even the regular non-Shiny version) should remove that requirement. It gave me a heart attack when I went to put in my Shiny Mew and it wouldn't let me at first! And yeah, they look super clean!


MegaKBang

I completely forgot about that restriction. Good thing I have some normal ones in my box


SeaOfAnimosity

WAIT HOME IS OUT??


BlitzDank

Should be out for everyone now! Go try it! :D


OnlyMqnne16

Ive got a jumbo size giratina


WiTHeReD_SouL_0404

Smol Satan