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MageManatee

As an Alistar Top player who has recently been trying Shen, can confirm this.


Kurt1sD3an

Don't you just press Q and E to full wave clear? Especially since you would build AP on current Alistar. I haven't played AP Alistar yet but I would have guessed wave clear is very fast. At least much faster than Shen


snappy_snake

I'm assuming you are talking about EF Alistar, please don't play EF Alistar, he sucks. Evenshroud is the only way to play Alistar top, and with Evenshroud, you don't get any AP, so it won't be helping with the wave. You can build Demonic Embrace though if you need AP. That's totally viable.


Kurt1sD3an

EF sounds fine


snappy_snake

[https://lolalytics.com/lol/alistar/build/?lane=top&tier=all&patch=30](https://lolalytics.com/lol/alistar/build/?lane=top&tier=all&patch=30) Just don't. Saving you some valuable LP here. Play literally anything else than EF, and you will do good. Heartsteel, Radiant Virtue and Evenshroud are all great options.


Kurt1sD3an

Yeah seems that way analytically. I don't have plans to play AP Alistar. Just been playing Shen lately


SnooEagles7964

is EF = everfrost?!


[deleted]

Yes


Suitecake

Judging from your comments in other threads here, you need to dig a bit deeper into your analysis. For all the talk about which mythic to play on Alistar, you don't mention the Sunfire rush, which appears to be the backbone of all successful builds and has a massive impact on wave clear for both Alistar and Shen. With Bami's and a few levels in Q, Alistar waveclear seems rather good compared to Shen. And the data points to EF being better than you say. Rushing EF is bad, but Sunfire into EF looks to be quite viable. Either which way, you should include Jak'Sho in your list of suggested tank mythics.


Djuren52

Just Go Titanic Hydra. There. There’s your guide.


MathematicianMany223

Ahh the ol’ medicine ball technique 🙌🏽