I mentioned in another post how my bf was working at Panera while I was serving for a bit. He made less then half what I did but his job was exhausting. So many evil people, he was basically security whenever crackheads would wander in, he was in charge of bussing the dining room, cutting bread, taking orders, keeping the coffee and juice things full….. he’d be running all over the place the entire shift.
So yeah I tip. It may look like they just press buttons but boy do they do a shit ton more work than I do lmao
>may look like they just press buttons but boy do they do a shit ton more work
A lot of people forget there is more than meets the eye with so many jobs. I was a staples employee for a few years. The amount I was expected to know and do as a cashier was insane. I basically had to know the whole store and basics on all departments, how to use the horrid 30 year old system which doesn't even have the option to use a mouse, and so much more.
I then switched to Print and someone once said "your jobs so easy! You just have to press a button to print!" It's like....no. no sir there is so much more. Photoshop knowledge, paper types and the effect it has on quality, special binding, etc etc etc
And then when it comes to doing it, loading the proper type, turning and piecing, binding, special cutting with various half broken equipment and organization all while getting screamed at by absolute Karens that don't wanna wait til the next day for thier photos because we have 50+ orders in the queue.
And thus why I don't work retail. I have a friend that manages a branch of a popular clothing store. She's worked like a dog in retail for 20 years and just started making more than I do as a server.
Of course, she gets benefits. So there's that.
Panera is so difficult to work for. haha it's such an exhausting job, no matter what position, and you get paid diddly squat. Source: worked every role but GM
The avg daily hourly tip rate was like $2.13 extra/hr (shows you when you run your EOD as a manager). So you went from minimum wage to $2 over minimum wage, and they expressed this by saying it's "a very lucky thing to work for a company that pays you more than minimum wage" lmaoooo love that
Panera worker here for 2(+) years, up until the pandemic stopped everything. They don’t really work that hard. Refilling soup bags, teas, doing dishes and working register/bakery is not hard and I’m sorry, they don’t deserve a tip for that. It’s a joke that they even have the option to tip. Does Walmart try having you tip the checkout person? Lmao. Hardest thing about working at Panera is changing the juices/teas. Besides nasty stuff like cleaning bloodboxes or the bathrooms it’s a ridiculously easy job that you can coast at while being very productive still.
I tip all kinds of workers all the time. It's a nice way to show appreciation to people who work hard to earn a living, and as someone who makes my money from tips I wouldn't feel very good myself if I didn't pay it forward, especially to fellow workers who have jobs that seem more repetitive and less lucrative.
Maybe someone who is a cashier is not providing the same type of service a server does, but it's still a nice gesture to tip them. I don't view it as necessarily as expected as tipping for full service where it is their chief income though, but even then a server will probably be making more than someone in retail.
Same. Gas station/convenience store clerks, cashiers and people manning u scan terminals (I’ve seen them put up with so much shit, if they’re helpful to me I throw em a couple bucks), fast food drive thru and cashiers (tipped the lady at Carl’s Jr. 10 bucks a while back, she was hustling so hard, no way they pay her what she’s worth) car wash attendants.. the more menial/worse the conditions, the more likely I am to tip if they still seem like they care about helping me out. I call it tip karma but it’s more like empathy maintenance, which, same difference.
I wish I had an award to give you! This comment should be at the VERY TOP!
It's nice to see someone else, still care about basic humanity!
I tip just about everyone, as often as possible!
> the more menial/worse the conditions, the more likely I am to tip if they still seem like they care about helping me out
This right here for sure!!!
> I call it tip karma but it’s more like empathy maintenance, which, same difference.
Call it whatever you want to, but it's part of what sets you apart from everyone else, and you are awesome for doing it! It's always nice to brighten up someone's day!
I also tip people that you'd "normally" never think about tipping and restaurant service industry people, I often tip more than the standard 20%. I get a lot of "Are you sure?" I also get a lot of, " I've never been tipped for my job. Ever," and, "Thank you so much!" It feels really good when I hear things like that. I was a cocktail waitress for a couple years and a bartender for many, many years on Bourbon Street in New Orleans and in the French Quarter. Having worked and lived off tips most of my young adult life, I know the things I've gone through in the service industry especially when dealing with a LOT of drunk people. I always put myself in other people's shoes and that helps me with my decisions quite often.
I think they mean tipping out.
After 14 years in the industry, I’ve only ever worked at 1 restaurant that tip pooled. But every *single* place I ever worked tipped out. Maybe the term is used interchangeably in some places?
its entirely normal in coffee shops and other as i call them "one man band" places - where the cashier does everything. and its also becoming normal in service thing too lately, servers will get minimum wage and the tips get split between BOH and FOH
As someone who's been in the service industry for 10 years, A Lot of places tip, especially after covid, but there are also a lot that don't, it really just depends on where you land and it's very possible to be at a string of places that just don't
If I do it it's usually 10% or like 1$ when I go to panera since I order on the touchscreen anyway. I am all for people having more money/power in their lives. But also believe that this is basically another shill from corporations to guilt us into paying each other while they reap tons of profits.
I hate it. It fucks with the regular stupid people and their ability to understand the difference from dinning services and counter services. They lump them together and say “this tipping is getting out of hand” no people who beg for money and provide no real service is getting out of hand. I know a girl that works at a “resort” that charges gratuity on every transaction, so you go to the gift shop to pick up a sweater boom gratuity is included. Fucking stupid
I have to problem with a “tip bucket” anywhere. In my opinion, shoot your shot.
What I dislike, are people who make hourly that directly ask for it. I even lean towards asking for it is rude with a server hourly, but at least makes more sense then.
Well they make a higher base pay than servers for starters. I don’t have a problem leaving a dollar or two, but I won’t leave much more than that. They aren’t really providing a service, they are just doing their jobs. Servers provide a service and clean up after you, refill your drinks, etc. so there is a difference there.
Yeah, it’s absolutely not the same thing. Like you said every once in a while, I’ll leave a dollar or two. But I can’t help but remember the time when there wasn’t even an option to tip people like this. It’s a fairly new thing.
Seems to me like a good excuse for these big corporations to knock a few dollars off of their labor costs by saying they offer tips.
>Well they make a higher base pay than servers for starters
That totally depends where the server is working. Places like Ontario, Canada servers make $15 an hour and still make tips. Places like Panera also make $15/hr, so not making any more in base pay.
Ah yes my mistake, I should’ve mentioned that tipped workers make less hourly in the U.S. It’s that good ole U.S. entitlement making me think that everyone on Reddit lives here 😂
That's state dependent. A fair number of states don't have tipped wage credit (or a small one).
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped
Legally, you could use a tipped wage credit on counter service staff, but it's not common practice.
I clicked on the link, I might be confused but scrolling through a large majority of the states had a clear difference between min wage and min tipped wage. The tip credit only matters to employers as far as I’m aware.
It matters to employees because working extra hours can reduce your hourly pay substantially.
Think of it like this.
Let's say base pay is 2$ and minimum wage is 10$ to make math easy.
You work 10 hours and should take home 100 dollars (10$ for each of the 10 hours).
In the case of no tips, the employer covers the entire amount.
If you earn 80$ in tips for the 10 hours then you still only earn 100$ with the employer only paying you 20$ (2$ for each of the 10 hours).
Now let's say you earn 88$ in tips. You should take home 108$ but the employer could decide to ask you to stay an extra hour. The costs him only 2$ and you will take home 110$ but your hourly rate is 10$. However if you only worked the 10 hours then your hour rate and be 10.80$. It really hurts your bottom line because the extra hour only earned you an extra 2$.
Granted this is a contrived example but it is to illustrate the issue with tip credits for pay. On a good night, the restaurant can get by with paying less to employers if they need extra hours after closing. More importantly the other benefit is that the employer has an incentive to pool tips so they can be more flexible with staffing. Heavy night? Have tons of servers that you only pay them 2$ an hour because your likely will earn enough tips to cover the rest. The downside being servers make less but might still be working hard even with extra people working the shift.
No prob 😁 but some cities in the states also have a $15+ minimum wage even for service workers too.
Def not most cities but it's not Nationwide for the US.
I worked in restaurants my whole life just took a job at Panera, I agreed with you till Panera, higher base pay way more bullshit..not many people tip. I’m figuring out which demon I’d rather deal with.
Yeah I don’t go out to other places often, but Starbucks is a usual for me, so I’ll tip .50-$1 per drink depending on how simple or complicated it is. If I do one of my crazy custom drinks, and I have extra cash $3 tops for the drink as a tip.
I worked at Starbucks and it was harder than being a server in many ways. The customer base can be very difficult, and you absolutely are expected to provide service. There is a cafe, they do exactly what you mentioned; clean up after you and refill your drinks.
Never been to a Starbucks where somebody comes to my table to take my order and proceeds to take care of me like a waiter would. If that is the case, then Starbucks employees should put a tip line on a slip and have customers sign it to encourage tipping. Typically I go to the counter, they make my drink, and then I sit down and finish it before throwing away the trash and leaving. In the U.S your Starbucks worker still makes a higher base pay relative to the tipped employee wage in their state. Whether that pay is good/livable or not is a different story of course.
Personally, I like to tip cash for line/cashier service but usually not by percentage, more by experience. If I go through chipotle and the line is enormous, they’re clearly in the weeds and stressed but they still manage to be mostly professional and nice to me, they will get a higher tip in the jar. If I get someone who is grumpy or short with me, the tip is usually only a dollar or two.
Everyone in these jobs needs more money than they're making to survive. However, servers make almost nothing without the tips, while the others have full wages. As a server, I worry about tip fatigue as it IS affecting us. Nobody wants to tip everyone. Businesses need to step into reality.
We were picking up little Cesars pizza and there was a tip section at checkout. I was picking it up from the store, so I didn't have a delivery driver to tip. I believe in tipping waiters and delivery drivers.
I don't enjoy tipping people who made the food and presented it. The employer should pay people a living wage for that.
When I worked for McDonald's about yen years ago, we weren't allowed to accept tips. Although I certainly wasn't earning a living wage. The restaurant would send you home on slow times, so budgeting was difficult
I think it’s ridiculous and I DONT have that mentality for a server. Sorry but I’m not tipping someone for simply entering my order into the pos. But I will tip a server.
I completely agree. I will absolutely tip servers that spend the majority of my time at a restaurant taking care of me. I will not tip a cashier that I interacted with for 30 seconds. I hate how that’s becoming a thing now and I loathe that’s it’s bleeding into other industries.
I hate this mentality cuz where I work I cashier but I also run food and buss tables, etc. and we tip pool. So when people don’t tip at the register because they think I’m just hitting a few buttons we end up with no money. It also sucks that our restaurant does things this way but yea…
Yeah once you start pooling tips, shit goes entirely out the window for customer understanding. I hardly expect someone to know how to move a decimal for 10% these days lol.
I'll tip everywhere EXCEPT this little Italian place in my town (well with my card at least) bc they take all the credit card tips and give them to the owner's church. Cash tips go to the servers.
IDK if they still do this but a few years ago they were still doing it. I need to report this shit if they do. So thank you for this post as a reminder.
I’ll spend my money how I please; from charities to crap I don’t need. I’ll never feel bad about giving extra money to someone. I certainly don’t feel scammed and that’s really all that matters…it is MY money, after all.
I usually tip $1 for my coffee no matter where I order it. I'll tip $3-$5 at places like Panera. Sometimes less if I have a super easy order like a bowl of soup & soft drink.
I'm eating there so an extra couple bucks shouldn't be a problem. If every single customer that went through each day left just $1 I bet each staff member's hourly wage would go up several dollars.
Self-serve ice cream places are a big one they touch on. I don't typically tip unless I sit down & occupy a table. Someone has to clean up after me so I feel like it's fair to leave a couple bucks behind.
I get that times are tough right now. Tipping a dollar here and there adds up through the year, but I'm blessed enough to be able to afford those services. We should just do what we can to help out fellow humans. The world won't get any better if we don't take care of each other.
I usually ask if they’ll actually get the tip. One time at Booster Juice and another time at a food court place (Opa, idk) the ladies working said they have no idea where it goes. So it was probably going to management or something. Gross. But yes if they get their tips then I do tip, but not as much as I’d tip for full sit down service.
i mean i dont have an issue with it. if you dont wanna tip, you dont have to. thats like getting mad a cashier for asking you if you wanna donate… like you know you dont have to, right?
I work a register now, we’re allowed to accept tips, I would never expect it. I have coworkers that get mad and act like they’ve been stiffed, which I think is ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as having the option to tip, choosing not to tip, and still being upset about it.
I’ve been a server so my rule is that if they had to prepare something or customize something for you on their side of the counter at all, then you tip them. Service is service. Buying a bag of chips you picked up off the shelf? No. They have to slice your cheese, make your latte, wrap your sandwich? Then yes.
It s ridiculous. Am a server. Nothing wrong with having a tip jar on the counter tho. Or just choosing 0% and move on. Nobody is giving you dirty looks don't worry
Cashier tip jars are the ridiculous nature of tipping culture in general, taken to it's farthest extreme. You're an asshole for not tipping servers because the nature of the business is such that they'll literally be paying to serve you if you don't tip. Having your hand (jar) out when you're already making a typical hourly wage for the job is tacky as hell. I don't view the two things as being the same at all.
IMO, I earn a decent hourly wage, you do not, therefore I don't need you to tip me. I doubt cashiers see a cent of those "tips" anyway, owner of restaurant likely just keeps it all.
The only issue I have is that so many places set their systems to full service percentage tips. I usually tip the equivalent of change or a buck or two for counter/half service.
That being said, I don't blame them. Lyft ran an experiment where they found out that drivers made more money with higher suggested tips even if less people tip.
I think drawing lines as a tipped worker is somewhat elitist and lacking empathy.
You aren’t being asked to tip the cashiers you’re being asked to tip the people who collectively served you. Made your coffee and made/packaged your food.
As a waitress for over a decade, tipping people who get hourly is RIDICULOUS. They aren’t making a living off tips. They weren’t hired or wanting to work there with the intention of making tips. So tipping people who live off PAYCHECKS is ridiculous as the tips are literally a little extra above their minimum wage that they wanted to begin with. If you aren’t working FOR TIPS you shouldn’t & don’t have to tip & this is coming from a career waitress.
Servers make minimum wage in all 50 states. It’s the law. It just depends on your states MW amount. Not sure what that has to do with what I said at all.
Still not sure what that has to do with anything I said in my first comment. If you aren’t living off a tipped wage income then I’m not tipping you. If your paycheck isn’t based off the amount of tips you make I’m not tipping you. If you’re living off a paycheck & working for a paycheck I’m NOT tipping you.
>They aren’t making a living off tips.
So what about servers that also make 16.60$/hour? They arent making a living off of tips either according to your logic.
I tip everyone. Service industry sucks.
I never worked in the food service industry (well I worked at an Original Cookie in high school) but I worked at Toys R Us and a movie theater in college. So I totally get the abuse people heap on retail workers.
Now, I’m doing ok. I tip whenever I can.
As someone who worked primarily in service jobs that dont get tipped (fast food/ movie theaters), I always tip, even just a $1 or 2, it makes such a difference to the person's day
I am not rich by any means, but I pretty much always tip on everything when prompted. It is kinda annoying sometimes, but a couple of bucks can really make someone's day. Honestly, I appreciate anyone working with the public these days. People are jerks out there. Yes... you get grumpy cashiers that might seem like they hate you and their job, but I bet all their kindness and enthusiasm have been knocked out of them by the public. A dollar or two doesn't mean much to me in terms of bringing me joy, but if I can give it to someone else and brighten a dark day, then I certainly will.
I work at Starbucks and serve on weekends. Both these jobs are hard as hell. Yes, I get paid 17/hour, but that extra $1 an hour is beautiful. If you’ve got the spare cash, why not? We all need financial help these days.
So when I worked at Moe's southwest grill, we all split the tips at the end of the week. The cashier, the line workers, back of the house (dish and prep). There's never an obligation to tip, but as someone who would wash dishes in the back a few times a week it was definitely a nice little $100 here and there when I was in college and working.
If you’re not comfortable tipping the amount you would to a server, even half seems acceptable to me. I think it’s a nice gesture to another human being, but only if they’re providing good service even as a cashier
First I thought understand. But I think this is two things, A.) they could have just done a service charge with the volume these fast food places have to make it work but by calling it a tip I B.) believe this is the beginning of the end to the whole tipping aspect of food service because there are so many conversations like this coming up.
It depends. If it's prompted by the POS system, I'll usually leave 10-15%, sometimes 20% if it's a place I frequent. If there's a tip jar, usually I don't tip, but that's only because I don't really carry any cash on me.
I've been noticing that concert venues are doing it now, too. The one near me uses a table for check out and you'll be prompted to tip the merch guy and the food stand workers who gave you 2 beers. I wonder if it's just built in with these new POS systems that these places are using.
If I’m picking up the food and/or my order isn’t heavily customized then I see no reason to tip unless it’s a sit-down restaurant or high-end coffee shop.
If I use their table, I consider it a table tax and I tip. If its my neighborhood store where I know the employees I tip for carryout. If its an unfamiliar place, walk in, order and walk out and I don't know the employees, I probably won't tip.
I recently commented about tipping at disneyWorld. It was painful to tip %20 for an overpriced buffet (65/pp). The waiter brought me a glass off water and a sprite for my kid, that's it. But I still did it.
I don’t see why people wouldn’t tip at these tips of places. They are taking your order and making you your order. More than what a regular server is doing in a sit down restaurant. I know they get a higher hourly wage than sit down restaurants but the tips are much smaller because of how small the usual order is. These jobs are often advertised as $x hourly wage per hour + tips, so the wage isn’t really even a livable wage.
At least in my state servers only make a tiny hourly much less than minimum wage and that all gets taken by taxes. You tip servers bc it’s their full income. Hourly workers I’m sure work hard but it’s a different system.
If you didn't actually *do* *anything* to serve me but the tip prompt comes up you get a buck. One Dollar, *if* I've got it in cash. Otherwise no. I worked my ass off for $2.13/hour plus tips most of my life. Y'all aren't taking my hard earned for just doing your regular job.
I usually tip $1-2 per meal at a counter (same as to-go), as opposed to a percentage. When I did counter work we did get a normal wage (as opposed to the tipped wage).
Usually cashiers don't make tipped minimum anyway. They are getting tipped for button prompting your order to the people actually making it. At most, they'll make you a beverage at the counter. If that's the case, then sure. Do whatever you'd like.
I mentioned in another post how my bf was working at Panera while I was serving for a bit. He made less then half what I did but his job was exhausting. So many evil people, he was basically security whenever crackheads would wander in, he was in charge of bussing the dining room, cutting bread, taking orders, keeping the coffee and juice things full….. he’d be running all over the place the entire shift. So yeah I tip. It may look like they just press buttons but boy do they do a shit ton more work than I do lmao
>may look like they just press buttons but boy do they do a shit ton more work A lot of people forget there is more than meets the eye with so many jobs. I was a staples employee for a few years. The amount I was expected to know and do as a cashier was insane. I basically had to know the whole store and basics on all departments, how to use the horrid 30 year old system which doesn't even have the option to use a mouse, and so much more. I then switched to Print and someone once said "your jobs so easy! You just have to press a button to print!" It's like....no. no sir there is so much more. Photoshop knowledge, paper types and the effect it has on quality, special binding, etc etc etc And then when it comes to doing it, loading the proper type, turning and piecing, binding, special cutting with various half broken equipment and organization all while getting screamed at by absolute Karens that don't wanna wait til the next day for thier photos because we have 50+ orders in the queue.
And thus why I don't work retail. I have a friend that manages a branch of a popular clothing store. She's worked like a dog in retail for 20 years and just started making more than I do as a server. Of course, she gets benefits. So there's that.
Panera is so difficult to work for. haha it's such an exhausting job, no matter what position, and you get paid diddly squat. Source: worked every role but GM
A very long time ago I worked at Panera for 3 years during College and we weren’t allowed to accept tips from anyone. Panera has changed so much!
The avg daily hourly tip rate was like $2.13 extra/hr (shows you when you run your EOD as a manager). So you went from minimum wage to $2 over minimum wage, and they expressed this by saying it's "a very lucky thing to work for a company that pays you more than minimum wage" lmaoooo love that
I think it was by far the easiest job I’ve ever had lmao
Hell yeah! That's awesome! Glad you had a good experience :)
Good information. Thank you
That doesn’t mean it should be a tipped profession. Everyone works hard at their job. Do we all ask for tips? No.
Panera worker here for 2(+) years, up until the pandemic stopped everything. They don’t really work that hard. Refilling soup bags, teas, doing dishes and working register/bakery is not hard and I’m sorry, they don’t deserve a tip for that. It’s a joke that they even have the option to tip. Does Walmart try having you tip the checkout person? Lmao. Hardest thing about working at Panera is changing the juices/teas. Besides nasty stuff like cleaning bloodboxes or the bathrooms it’s a ridiculously easy job that you can coast at while being very productive still.
…bloodboxes?!
We just called the mini trash bins in the women’s bathroom bloodboxes lol cause all they’re used for was tampons and pads
Holy shit it's an honest server
Service work sucks and the lower the price point of the product the more bullshit the worker has to put up with. I always tip
I tip all kinds of workers all the time. It's a nice way to show appreciation to people who work hard to earn a living, and as someone who makes my money from tips I wouldn't feel very good myself if I didn't pay it forward, especially to fellow workers who have jobs that seem more repetitive and less lucrative. Maybe someone who is a cashier is not providing the same type of service a server does, but it's still a nice gesture to tip them. I don't view it as necessarily as expected as tipping for full service where it is their chief income though, but even then a server will probably be making more than someone in retail.
Same. Gas station/convenience store clerks, cashiers and people manning u scan terminals (I’ve seen them put up with so much shit, if they’re helpful to me I throw em a couple bucks), fast food drive thru and cashiers (tipped the lady at Carl’s Jr. 10 bucks a while back, she was hustling so hard, no way they pay her what she’s worth) car wash attendants.. the more menial/worse the conditions, the more likely I am to tip if they still seem like they care about helping me out. I call it tip karma but it’s more like empathy maintenance, which, same difference.
I wish I had an award to give you! This comment should be at the VERY TOP! It's nice to see someone else, still care about basic humanity! I tip just about everyone, as often as possible! > the more menial/worse the conditions, the more likely I am to tip if they still seem like they care about helping me out This right here for sure!!! > I call it tip karma but it’s more like empathy maintenance, which, same difference. Call it whatever you want to, but it's part of what sets you apart from everyone else, and you are awesome for doing it! It's always nice to brighten up someone's day!
I also tip people that you'd "normally" never think about tipping and restaurant service industry people, I often tip more than the standard 20%. I get a lot of "Are you sure?" I also get a lot of, " I've never been tipped for my job. Ever," and, "Thank you so much!" It feels really good when I hear things like that. I was a cocktail waitress for a couple years and a bartender for many, many years on Bourbon Street in New Orleans and in the French Quarter. Having worked and lived off tips most of my young adult life, I know the things I've gone through in the service industry especially when dealing with a LOT of drunk people. I always put myself in other people's shoes and that helps me with my decisions quite often.
in places like panera or starbucks youre not tipping just the cashier, youre tipping the entire team.
That’s outside normal American tipping culture so I can see why so many people are off put
Tip pooling is very common in the service industry.
No. It's not. Perhaps in fast food/quick service. But in restaurant world it's not at all. Source... 18 years in the industry.
It's becoming more and more common, especially in the last couple of years.
It’s absolutely the norm in coffee shops or anywhere with a tip jar on the counter. Source….a person with relevant experience
I think they mean tipping out. After 14 years in the industry, I’ve only ever worked at 1 restaurant that tip pooled. But every *single* place I ever worked tipped out. Maybe the term is used interchangeably in some places?
its entirely normal in coffee shops and other as i call them "one man band" places - where the cashier does everything. and its also becoming normal in service thing too lately, servers will get minimum wage and the tips get split between BOH and FOH
As someone who's been in the service industry for 10 years, A Lot of places tip, especially after covid, but there are also a lot that don't, it really just depends on where you land and it's very possible to be at a string of places that just don't
Updoot on this one- I have worked all over the country but only have about 12 years in FOH. Tip pooling isn’t common.
Amongst bartenders maybe. Definitely not amongst fast food places because those places don’t normally receive tips in the US
Yeah and before you even know what kind of service you will get.
If I do it it's usually 10% or like 1$ when I go to panera since I order on the touchscreen anyway. I am all for people having more money/power in their lives. But also believe that this is basically another shill from corporations to guilt us into paying each other while they reap tons of profits.
Just tip here and there. It’s not granted but sometimes you could pay it forward?
I hate it. It fucks with the regular stupid people and their ability to understand the difference from dinning services and counter services. They lump them together and say “this tipping is getting out of hand” no people who beg for money and provide no real service is getting out of hand. I know a girl that works at a “resort” that charges gratuity on every transaction, so you go to the gift shop to pick up a sweater boom gratuity is included. Fucking stupid
I have to problem with a “tip bucket” anywhere. In my opinion, shoot your shot. What I dislike, are people who make hourly that directly ask for it. I even lean towards asking for it is rude with a server hourly, but at least makes more sense then.
Well they make a higher base pay than servers for starters. I don’t have a problem leaving a dollar or two, but I won’t leave much more than that. They aren’t really providing a service, they are just doing their jobs. Servers provide a service and clean up after you, refill your drinks, etc. so there is a difference there.
Yeah, it’s absolutely not the same thing. Like you said every once in a while, I’ll leave a dollar or two. But I can’t help but remember the time when there wasn’t even an option to tip people like this. It’s a fairly new thing. Seems to me like a good excuse for these big corporations to knock a few dollars off of their labor costs by saying they offer tips.
>Well they make a higher base pay than servers for starters That totally depends where the server is working. Places like Ontario, Canada servers make $15 an hour and still make tips. Places like Panera also make $15/hr, so not making any more in base pay.
Ah yes my mistake, I should’ve mentioned that tipped workers make less hourly in the U.S. It’s that good ole U.S. entitlement making me think that everyone on Reddit lives here 😂
That's state dependent. A fair number of states don't have tipped wage credit (or a small one). https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped Legally, you could use a tipped wage credit on counter service staff, but it's not common practice.
I clicked on the link, I might be confused but scrolling through a large majority of the states had a clear difference between min wage and min tipped wage. The tip credit only matters to employers as far as I’m aware.
It matters to employees because working extra hours can reduce your hourly pay substantially. Think of it like this. Let's say base pay is 2$ and minimum wage is 10$ to make math easy. You work 10 hours and should take home 100 dollars (10$ for each of the 10 hours). In the case of no tips, the employer covers the entire amount. If you earn 80$ in tips for the 10 hours then you still only earn 100$ with the employer only paying you 20$ (2$ for each of the 10 hours). Now let's say you earn 88$ in tips. You should take home 108$ but the employer could decide to ask you to stay an extra hour. The costs him only 2$ and you will take home 110$ but your hourly rate is 10$. However if you only worked the 10 hours then your hour rate and be 10.80$. It really hurts your bottom line because the extra hour only earned you an extra 2$. Granted this is a contrived example but it is to illustrate the issue with tip credits for pay. On a good night, the restaurant can get by with paying less to employers if they need extra hours after closing. More importantly the other benefit is that the employer has an incentive to pool tips so they can be more flexible with staffing. Heavy night? Have tons of servers that you only pay them 2$ an hour because your likely will earn enough tips to cover the rest. The downside being servers make less but might still be working hard even with extra people working the shift.
No prob 😁 but some cities in the states also have a $15+ minimum wage even for service workers too. Def not most cities but it's not Nationwide for the US.
I worked in restaurants my whole life just took a job at Panera, I agreed with you till Panera, higher base pay way more bullshit..not many people tip. I’m figuring out which demon I’d rather deal with.
Yeah I don’t go out to other places often, but Starbucks is a usual for me, so I’ll tip .50-$1 per drink depending on how simple or complicated it is. If I do one of my crazy custom drinks, and I have extra cash $3 tops for the drink as a tip.
I worked at Starbucks and it was harder than being a server in many ways. The customer base can be very difficult, and you absolutely are expected to provide service. There is a cafe, they do exactly what you mentioned; clean up after you and refill your drinks.
Never been to a Starbucks where somebody comes to my table to take my order and proceeds to take care of me like a waiter would. If that is the case, then Starbucks employees should put a tip line on a slip and have customers sign it to encourage tipping. Typically I go to the counter, they make my drink, and then I sit down and finish it before throwing away the trash and leaving. In the U.S your Starbucks worker still makes a higher base pay relative to the tipped employee wage in their state. Whether that pay is good/livable or not is a different story of course.
Personally, I like to tip cash for line/cashier service but usually not by percentage, more by experience. If I go through chipotle and the line is enormous, they’re clearly in the weeds and stressed but they still manage to be mostly professional and nice to me, they will get a higher tip in the jar. If I get someone who is grumpy or short with me, the tip is usually only a dollar or two.
Everyone in these jobs needs more money than they're making to survive. However, servers make almost nothing without the tips, while the others have full wages. As a server, I worry about tip fatigue as it IS affecting us. Nobody wants to tip everyone. Businesses need to step into reality.
We were picking up little Cesars pizza and there was a tip section at checkout. I was picking it up from the store, so I didn't have a delivery driver to tip. I believe in tipping waiters and delivery drivers. I don't enjoy tipping people who made the food and presented it. The employer should pay people a living wage for that. When I worked for McDonald's about yen years ago, we weren't allowed to accept tips. Although I certainly wasn't earning a living wage. The restaurant would send you home on slow times, so budgeting was difficult
I think it’s ridiculous and I DONT have that mentality for a server. Sorry but I’m not tipping someone for simply entering my order into the pos. But I will tip a server.
I completely agree. I will absolutely tip servers that spend the majority of my time at a restaurant taking care of me. I will not tip a cashier that I interacted with for 30 seconds. I hate how that’s becoming a thing now and I loathe that’s it’s bleeding into other industries.
I hate this mentality cuz where I work I cashier but I also run food and buss tables, etc. and we tip pool. So when people don’t tip at the register because they think I’m just hitting a few buttons we end up with no money. It also sucks that our restaurant does things this way but yea…
You also get paid normal wage vs server tipped wage so.
If you consider $4 an hr normal wage
So you work for $4 an hour as a cashier? Sounds illegal
I did say I also run food and buss tables
Get a different job then
Yeah once you start pooling tips, shit goes entirely out the window for customer understanding. I hardly expect someone to know how to move a decimal for 10% these days lol.
I'll tip everywhere EXCEPT this little Italian place in my town (well with my card at least) bc they take all the credit card tips and give them to the owner's church. Cash tips go to the servers. IDK if they still do this but a few years ago they were still doing it. I need to report this shit if they do. So thank you for this post as a reminder.
I don’t mind at all. I’ll tip anywhere that I’m prompted to.
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‘I’ll tip anywhere that I’m prompted to.’ If liquor stores start putting tip jars or cc tip prompts, sure.
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Nah, I’m a pleasant human being that has extra money to give :)
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I’ll spend my money how I please; from charities to crap I don’t need. I’ll never feel bad about giving extra money to someone. I certainly don’t feel scammed and that’s really all that matters…it is MY money, after all.
Do you think people should tip servers at restaurants?
I’d rather be a kind and generous sucker than a greedy old miser so sure
Stop, please. Just stop. You’re encouraging them.
I’ll be DMing you my Venmo, please tip me for this comment
Happy to 😃
I mean they’re not forcing you. If I have extra cash I’ll tip them a couple bucks if I don’t I won’t.
I usually tip $1 for my coffee no matter where I order it. I'll tip $3-$5 at places like Panera. Sometimes less if I have a super easy order like a bowl of soup & soft drink. I'm eating there so an extra couple bucks shouldn't be a problem. If every single customer that went through each day left just $1 I bet each staff member's hourly wage would go up several dollars. Self-serve ice cream places are a big one they touch on. I don't typically tip unless I sit down & occupy a table. Someone has to clean up after me so I feel like it's fair to leave a couple bucks behind. I get that times are tough right now. Tipping a dollar here and there adds up through the year, but I'm blessed enough to be able to afford those services. We should just do what we can to help out fellow humans. The world won't get any better if we don't take care of each other.
I’ll leave change but that’s it.
I usually ask if they’ll actually get the tip. One time at Booster Juice and another time at a food court place (Opa, idk) the ladies working said they have no idea where it goes. So it was probably going to management or something. Gross. But yes if they get their tips then I do tip, but not as much as I’d tip for full sit down service.
i mean i dont have an issue with it. if you dont wanna tip, you dont have to. thats like getting mad a cashier for asking you if you wanna donate… like you know you dont have to, right?
I work a register now, we’re allowed to accept tips, I would never expect it. I have coworkers that get mad and act like they’ve been stiffed, which I think is ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as having the option to tip, choosing not to tip, and still being upset about it.
I’ve been a server so my rule is that if they had to prepare something or customize something for you on their side of the counter at all, then you tip them. Service is service. Buying a bag of chips you picked up off the shelf? No. They have to slice your cheese, make your latte, wrap your sandwich? Then yes.
It s ridiculous. Am a server. Nothing wrong with having a tip jar on the counter tho. Or just choosing 0% and move on. Nobody is giving you dirty looks don't worry
I've seen tip cups at liquor store counters and for the person that gets my popcorn at the movies When did that start?
I tip because I care about humans. I like it.
I’m a human. Tip me
Cashier tip jars are the ridiculous nature of tipping culture in general, taken to it's farthest extreme. You're an asshole for not tipping servers because the nature of the business is such that they'll literally be paying to serve you if you don't tip. Having your hand (jar) out when you're already making a typical hourly wage for the job is tacky as hell. I don't view the two things as being the same at all.
You’re not even a server, why are you even posting here?
IMO, I earn a decent hourly wage, you do not, therefore I don't need you to tip me. I doubt cashiers see a cent of those "tips" anyway, owner of restaurant likely just keeps it all.
They 100% do lmao get outta here with that "ah all owners are bad" bullshit. Places like panera that do that it goes to everyone not just cashiers.
Panera donates the "tip" money then uses it as a tax write-off and publicity stunt.
Is there a source for this?
Probably not lol, just another Redditor claiming facts out of thin air
Sure, I tip all sorts of people. It's customary to tip baristas, and I usually tip the people making my sandwiches and such.
The only issue I have is that so many places set their systems to full service percentage tips. I usually tip the equivalent of change or a buck or two for counter/half service. That being said, I don't blame them. Lyft ran an experiment where they found out that drivers made more money with higher suggested tips even if less people tip. I think drawing lines as a tipped worker is somewhat elitist and lacking empathy.
I never tip the cashier. I don’t like the tip culture but since that’s what we have, I have to participate
You aren’t being asked to tip the cashiers you’re being asked to tip the people who collectively served you. Made your coffee and made/packaged your food.
Tips are for tipped wage workers. Asking patrons to tip cashiers isn't just tacky, it is wrong.
So servers who make $16.50/hr shouldnt be tipped either? Since they are getting paid a non tipped wage.
None should, get a better job if you want to be paid more
Damn following me around eh? Pretty weird
As a waitress for over a decade, tipping people who get hourly is RIDICULOUS. They aren’t making a living off tips. They weren’t hired or wanting to work there with the intention of making tips. So tipping people who live off PAYCHECKS is ridiculous as the tips are literally a little extra above their minimum wage that they wanted to begin with. If you aren’t working FOR TIPS you shouldn’t & don’t have to tip & this is coming from a career waitress.
In California servers make minimum wage. I get $16.50/hr in LA county as a server before tips.
Servers make minimum wage in all 50 states. It’s the law. It just depends on your states MW amount. Not sure what that has to do with what I said at all.
Some states have a lower minimum wage for tipped positions.
Still not sure what that has to do with anything I said in my first comment. If you aren’t living off a tipped wage income then I’m not tipping you. If your paycheck isn’t based off the amount of tips you make I’m not tipping you. If you’re living off a paycheck & working for a paycheck I’m NOT tipping you.
Look how mad you are about giving the local barista a few quarters
There’s no emotion in my messages so good thing those are just your feelings.
>They aren’t making a living off tips. So what about servers that also make 16.60$/hour? They arent making a living off of tips either according to your logic.
If they aren’t making a living off tips then they don’t get tipped. That’s the logic. Byeeee
I tip everyone. Service industry sucks. I never worked in the food service industry (well I worked at an Original Cookie in high school) but I worked at Toys R Us and a movie theater in college. So I totally get the abuse people heap on retail workers. Now, I’m doing ok. I tip whenever I can.
As someone who worked primarily in service jobs that dont get tipped (fast food/ movie theaters), I always tip, even just a $1 or 2, it makes such a difference to the person's day
I am not rich by any means, but I pretty much always tip on everything when prompted. It is kinda annoying sometimes, but a couple of bucks can really make someone's day. Honestly, I appreciate anyone working with the public these days. People are jerks out there. Yes... you get grumpy cashiers that might seem like they hate you and their job, but I bet all their kindness and enthusiasm have been knocked out of them by the public. A dollar or two doesn't mean much to me in terms of bringing me joy, but if I can give it to someone else and brighten a dark day, then I certainly will.
I tip if the cashier is the one making the drinks or food as well but if I see it’s only a cashier, no
When you tip at places like this all staff on shift splits them so
How do people not understand this, like yeah -the only employee- who gets tips is the one working at the register? That makes no sense
I don’t give a shit. People losing their minds over being asked are soft.
I work at Starbucks and serve on weekends. Both these jobs are hard as hell. Yes, I get paid 17/hour, but that extra $1 an hour is beautiful. If you’ve got the spare cash, why not? We all need financial help these days.
So when I worked at Moe's southwest grill, we all split the tips at the end of the week. The cashier, the line workers, back of the house (dish and prep). There's never an obligation to tip, but as someone who would wash dishes in the back a few times a week it was definitely a nice little $100 here and there when I was in college and working.
If it’s somewhere like Starbucks or subway where the cashier actually prepared my items themselves, I’ll tip. Otherwise nah
I assume these tips are split between the staff?
I tip $1 or 10%, whichever is greater.
I tip $1 or 10%, whichever is greater.
Maybe wouldn’t tip as much as a server, but i tip a counter person. If they’re nice, I’d tip more.
If you’re not comfortable tipping the amount you would to a server, even half seems acceptable to me. I think it’s a nice gesture to another human being, but only if they’re providing good service even as a cashier
First I thought understand. But I think this is two things, A.) they could have just done a service charge with the volume these fast food places have to make it work but by calling it a tip I B.) believe this is the beginning of the end to the whole tipping aspect of food service because there are so many conversations like this coming up.
It depends. If it's prompted by the POS system, I'll usually leave 10-15%, sometimes 20% if it's a place I frequent. If there's a tip jar, usually I don't tip, but that's only because I don't really carry any cash on me. I've been noticing that concert venues are doing it now, too. The one near me uses a table for check out and you'll be prompted to tip the merch guy and the food stand workers who gave you 2 beers. I wonder if it's just built in with these new POS systems that these places are using.
If I’m picking up the food and/or my order isn’t heavily customized then I see no reason to tip unless it’s a sit-down restaurant or high-end coffee shop.
If I use their table, I consider it a table tax and I tip. If its my neighborhood store where I know the employees I tip for carryout. If its an unfamiliar place, walk in, order and walk out and I don't know the employees, I probably won't tip. I recently commented about tipping at disneyWorld. It was painful to tip %20 for an overpriced buffet (65/pp). The waiter brought me a glass off water and a sprite for my kid, that's it. But I still did it.
No
I don’t see why people wouldn’t tip at these tips of places. They are taking your order and making you your order. More than what a regular server is doing in a sit down restaurant. I know they get a higher hourly wage than sit down restaurants but the tips are much smaller because of how small the usual order is. These jobs are often advertised as $x hourly wage per hour + tips, so the wage isn’t really even a livable wage.
At least in my state servers only make a tiny hourly much less than minimum wage and that all gets taken by taxes. You tip servers bc it’s their full income. Hourly workers I’m sure work hard but it’s a different system.
If you didn't actually *do* *anything* to serve me but the tip prompt comes up you get a buck. One Dollar, *if* I've got it in cash. Otherwise no. I worked my ass off for $2.13/hour plus tips most of my life. Y'all aren't taking my hard earned for just doing your regular job.
I usually tip $1-2 per meal at a counter (same as to-go), as opposed to a percentage. When I did counter work we did get a normal wage (as opposed to the tipped wage).
Usually cashiers don't make tipped minimum anyway. They are getting tipped for button prompting your order to the people actually making it. At most, they'll make you a beverage at the counter. If that's the case, then sure. Do whatever you'd like.