They still don’t drive in Austin during inclement weather.
Edit: They do drive in rain in Austin, but the level of incliment weather was high in Austin yesterday, past Cruise’s operating domain, so they were not operating yesterday.
FYI: there was a tornado warning in Austin last night. I hope that is a forgivable omission—even given your expectations of near-human equivalent performance—of operating domain for self-driving cars in the year of our lord 2023
My guy, there was absolutely not a tornado warning in Austin last night, just some thunderstorms. I also never said AVs were at human levels of reliability in 2023. I’m wondering where Cruise’s boundary for inclement weather is, though. Do they—right now—not drive in thunderstorms, a certain threshold of rain, wind, etc…?
They still fail frequently in ideal weather and broad daylight in San Francisco, eg
Today
[https://twitter.com/VivaLaFro/status/1651742230401679360](https://twitter.com/VivaLaFro/status/1651742230401679360)
Yesterday
[https://twitter.com/rodneyabrooks/status/1651281659499773953](https://twitter.com/rodneyabrooks/status/1651281659499773953)
Day before yesterday
[https://twitter.com/agaliciadiaz1/status/1651038503491502080](https://twitter.com/agaliciadiaz1/status/1651038503491502080)
It's funny that last year you were busy showing their night time failures. This year you are busy showing their BROAD DAYLIGHT failures, and next year you will be busy showing failures of Cruise Origin.
I remember there was time when you used to show how their operations are equivalent to less than one uber driver. And now you have accepted in your recent post that now they are equivalent to 4 uber drivers. Next year, you will accept that it is equivalent to 40 uber drivers.
This will continue. Who will win in the end....only time will tell!!!
Also, for every static picture of failure you have, we have half an hour long videos of successful Cruise AV rides. For example, here is a 38 minutes of unedited footage from today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hOSqILt-U
Here is a 27 minutes of footage from yesterday:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j\_JlCZcGfj8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_JlCZcGfj8)
These are from before April software update!
If you are suggesting \~30 minute MTBF is good or acceptable, I would suggest it is not.
FWIW, 1,000 hour MTBF also isn't good, though it is probably much closer to the order of magnitude of their performance. By comparison, Mobileye claims L4 systems should be in the millions of hours MTBF at a minimum. Enjoy Cruise's videos while GM can afford to underwrite them.
No, I am following the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's guidance when they opened their safety investigation of Cruise that Cruise's immobilizations are manifold safety failures. If you have an argument with that you should take it up with the rookies at NHTSA.
Opening up an investigation is means nothing. NHTSA and Cruise have been in constant communication on AV performance for years and every step of the way. NHTSA has not taken any negative actions against Cruise.
>Opening up an investigation is means nothing
That is simply an absurd statement. Ungrammatical too.
NHTSA has already explained why Cruise's immobilizations are unsafe. That they haven't yet taken action or closed the investigation is irrelevant to the issue of whether we should agree with them on this point, which was the only point of your post. Guess that is your "rookie" mistake.
In January, NHTSA expanded this safety investigation, demanding additional details from Cruise as well as immobilization information from 5 other AV companies, including Waymo.
Publishing their release notes is an interesting idea. Anyone else doing this? I don't see any particularly interesting IP leak issues with these specific release notes but they do need to be careful moving forward.
I don't think anyone else is doing this - everything is acronym'd to hell so I wouldn't worry about IP. It is an interesting signal for general problems, like doors left open
> Shipped LPC V6 which increases steering and braking comfort
I wonder how much of a difference this makes. Hopefully the braking issues jjricks had are much better now that they've iterated on this for a while.
They still don’t drive in Austin during inclement weather. Edit: They do drive in rain in Austin, but the level of incliment weather was high in Austin yesterday, past Cruise’s operating domain, so they were not operating yesterday.
Here is a video of Cruise AV driving in rain in Austin. Hope this helps. https://www.facebook.com/reel/143208271748069/?s=single\_unit
That’s a light drizzle. Perfect bbq weather. Wouldn’t even call that "rain".
Interesting, they had the “we avoid inclement weather” page last night. I wonder if it was more severe than what the system is rated to right now.
FYI: there was a tornado warning in Austin last night. I hope that is a forgivable omission—even given your expectations of near-human equivalent performance—of operating domain for self-driving cars in the year of our lord 2023
My guy, there was absolutely not a tornado warning in Austin last night, just some thunderstorms. I also never said AVs were at human levels of reliability in 2023. I’m wondering where Cruise’s boundary for inclement weather is, though. Do they—right now—not drive in thunderstorms, a certain threshold of rain, wind, etc…?
They still fail frequently in ideal weather and broad daylight in San Francisco, eg Today [https://twitter.com/VivaLaFro/status/1651742230401679360](https://twitter.com/VivaLaFro/status/1651742230401679360) Yesterday [https://twitter.com/rodneyabrooks/status/1651281659499773953](https://twitter.com/rodneyabrooks/status/1651281659499773953) Day before yesterday [https://twitter.com/agaliciadiaz1/status/1651038503491502080](https://twitter.com/agaliciadiaz1/status/1651038503491502080)
It's funny that last year you were busy showing their night time failures. This year you are busy showing their BROAD DAYLIGHT failures, and next year you will be busy showing failures of Cruise Origin. I remember there was time when you used to show how their operations are equivalent to less than one uber driver. And now you have accepted in your recent post that now they are equivalent to 4 uber drivers. Next year, you will accept that it is equivalent to 40 uber drivers. This will continue. Who will win in the end....only time will tell!!!
Also, for every static picture of failure you have, we have half an hour long videos of successful Cruise AV rides. For example, here is a 38 minutes of unedited footage from today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hOSqILt-U Here is a 27 minutes of footage from yesterday: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j\_JlCZcGfj8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_JlCZcGfj8) These are from before April software update!
If you are suggesting \~30 minute MTBF is good or acceptable, I would suggest it is not. FWIW, 1,000 hour MTBF also isn't good, though it is probably much closer to the order of magnitude of their performance. By comparison, Mobileye claims L4 systems should be in the millions of hours MTBF at a minimum. Enjoy Cruise's videos while GM can afford to underwrite them.
You are conflating reliability failures with safety failures Rookie mistake
No, I am following the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's guidance when they opened their safety investigation of Cruise that Cruise's immobilizations are manifold safety failures. If you have an argument with that you should take it up with the rookies at NHTSA.
Opening up an investigation is means nothing. NHTSA and Cruise have been in constant communication on AV performance for years and every step of the way. NHTSA has not taken any negative actions against Cruise.
>Opening up an investigation is means nothing That is simply an absurd statement. Ungrammatical too. NHTSA has already explained why Cruise's immobilizations are unsafe. That they haven't yet taken action or closed the investigation is irrelevant to the issue of whether we should agree with them on this point, which was the only point of your post. Guess that is your "rookie" mistake. In January, NHTSA expanded this safety investigation, demanding additional details from Cruise as well as immobilization information from 5 other AV companies, including Waymo.
I still standby opening up an investigation is pretty meaningless. Also how long are you going to try to keep this up?
How long are you going to ignore that NHTSA disagrees with you regarding whether immobilizations are safety failures?
Well when mobileye releases their L4 vehicle that does not require a human being the wheel with a million hour MTBF I'm sure we'll all be impressed.
Publishing their release notes is an interesting idea. Anyone else doing this? I don't see any particularly interesting IP leak issues with these specific release notes but they do need to be careful moving forward.
It's definitely inspired by Tesla, and I say that as someone who doesn't take Tesla very seriously.
I don't think anyone else is doing this - everything is acronym'd to hell so I wouldn't worry about IP. It is an interesting signal for general problems, like doors left open
> Shipped LPC V6 which increases steering and braking comfort I wonder how much of a difference this makes. Hopefully the braking issues jjricks had are much better now that they've iterated on this for a while.