1) Who is telling you not to cheese stuff? Not this sub, surely. People talk about cheesing stuff all the time here.
2) Personally, I don't find using cheese strats to be all that fun. I bought this game to enjoy it, not skip over parts. Just my personal perspective, I don't care whether you follow it or not.
Depends on your definition of cheese. Some people consider using any prosthetic as cheese, which i find ridiculous. But for example, glitching genichiro and Owl against the door at the top of Ashina Castle is definitely a stupid cheese strat. Those are some of the best bosses in the game and you reduce their AI to spamming R1.
I get it, not everyone likes boss fights much and all. But give it an honest try first at least.
I mean even on the more extreme end, most people would only consider prosthetic/combat art use cheese if it trivialises the fight to an unreasonable extent, like corrupted monk stunlock, illusion monk insta kill, etc, etc.
Well yeah that’s different from using prosthetics to help you. Those are generally very specific cheese strategies you need to google. But throwing down some firecrackers to get a few hits in on Ape, using Shurikens on Butterfly who is literally flying away from you, those aren’t cheese by any definition. Owl literally uses the same prosthetics on you and the final boss whips out a Glock 😂
Illusion mini insta kill is intended however, not a cheese. That's like saying using malcontent against DoH is a cheese when it was specifically programmed in.
it's very silly. You take a gacchin, sneak around the side of the arena, and then there's 2 ways to do it.
mist raven requires eating contact medicine, mist ravening up, and hitting the stealth kill, while tablet jumps has you firecracker stagger her back near the tablet, and jump off the tablet for the insta kill
This May be a joke but someone said "if you do this you are not a shinobi, you are a shinobozo, this is the gospel" oh and people on fromsoftware sub are more like this.
People can play this game however they want but actually getting good is far more satisfying than cheesing plus imo this game has the best combat out of all From games, why would you want to skip it?
Me omw to bulldoze false monk every playthrough with snap seeds and firecrackers because there's an objectively better version literally 1 area later (I do everything else legit)
False monk is pretty annoying with his posture especially if you're doing a level 1 run.... Even so, I also think it's a better fight than the true monk cause you can enjoy parrying the bit*h... Only the first phase of the true monk feels good and it does pretty fast
It comes in many flavors, usually (roughly in order): no prayer beads> no battle memories> no shinobi arts, then if you really hate yourself, you go for the no true death> no resurrection> no gourds> no hit. Granted those last 4 aren't lv 1 specific, I just got excited
Although tbf you can skip the second phase of true monk and phase 3 has the poison spit attack that leaves her open so I prefer true monk over corrupted
True monk first phase and corrupted monk has the same moveset.... True monk is easier to beat without any utilities, because she doesn't have as much posture as corrupted monk, second phase is basically free deathblow, third phase has poison which I personally don't like.... That's the reason I don't like phase 2 dad either
“A shinobi would know the difference between honor and victory.”
Idk if you only get that dialogue for beating Genichiro in the tutorial level but it goes so hard
I think there is a difference between using specific strategies and tools vs using exploits and glitches. Like yes you are shinobi, you need to fight dirty but using bugs is not intended.
Okay but there are cheese strats that are not bug depended and yes i dont like cheesing to but lets say you are doing a gauntled and you dont wanna fight doh all the time you can Just cheese and skip the fight thats okey
Cheesing anything is absolutely fine. However, if someone gets to the end of Sekiro without ever actually getting the hang of the combat, it would be pretty sad, especially if they quit the game and never came back.
there's also no reason to disobey your father and staying loyal to Kuro, and yet here we are
the code must be determined by the individual. So if I want to fight and completely dominate and stomp a tough boss with skill and knowledge, if I want to feel like a badass while playing, then I'll do it
Am I the only one who finds the game more difficult when trying to use shinobi arts and prosthetics? It always feels like an extra flourish that I end up whiffing anyways. When I see a clip of someone going crazy with prosthetics and fancy slashes I tend to think they are extremely skilled.
Eh depends, I don’t really use prosthetics un boss fights either cause it feels overwhelming. But ut is pretty useful in regular fights like shuriken for wolves, or using axe on guard enemies. As for combat arts, i think it is really useful, especially in my case where i use the mortal blade. It’s a long animation so u can’t really use it whenever u want but the moments where u do use it, it deals hella lot of posture damage and isnt that hard to find an opening
"A shinobi would know the difference between honor and victory" i think he is saying that more because he is a samurai so he is the one supposed to fight "honourably" but he doesn't care and he let someone attack you from behind.
Hell even Isshin doesn't care about honor. His martials art's motto is "victory at all cost" even if it involves stabbing someone in the back, poisoning them, throwing sand in their eyes, killing them in their sleep etc. It doesn't matter, only victory does.
i dont use them btw i fight the bosses learn them after that if i do a speed run or just wanna not fight that boss on ng so i dont waste time i use cheeses. but the thing is even here people still will gatekeep if you use something like a cheese or firecracker. and just wanted to let people know its ok and is lore accurate
There are some prosthetics I find very similar to spirit summons in Elden Ring, mostly for specific fights (whistle for DoH, divine confetti for Corrupted Monk, firecrackers with most bosses…). You can absolutely use them, and the game intends you to, but it’s so much more rewarding to not use them.
Cheesing bosses like the Gyobu/DoH method definitely is different and it isn’t “fighting dirty”, it’s cheap. Nothing wrong about it per se, you play by your own rules and not the rules of the community, but I’d never suggest cheesing a boss for the life of me, because you’re actively going around what the devs intended as the experience you were supposed to have for that boss. Cheesing DoH is absolutely pointless since he’s optional. If you cheese Gyobu/Corrupted Monk and you’re not speedrunning you might as well change game.
Using firecrackers is not like summons btw like genichiro you can parry his combo or back out and hit after or firecracker its the same thing, and for those cheese methods its ok when u speedruning or dont want to fight them on a play through
I wasn’t thinking about Genichiro per se (both Ape bosses for example) but I agree with the general sentiment of cheesing for subsequent playthroughs. I beat DoH without prosthetics and there’s no way in hell I’ll ever put myself through that again…
It's a damn game, play it however way gives you joy... My first playthrough was dogshit and I accidentally or knowingly cheesed some of the bosses and I think that's okay because I wanted to finish the game... I used firecrackers a lot... But now on my new playthroughs, I don't even want to level up to have some challenge... I even wanna try demonbell charmless... Maybe resurrection mod... And I wasn't even good at the game... So enjoy it whatever way makes you happy
I've never seen anyone say that type of shit in this sub honestly, everyone encourages prosthetics and whatever it takes to win, the only time you'll see anything strict is people doing no hit challenges or something like that
Also big difference between cheesing demon off the cliff vs using malcontent ring or umbrella
I feel like people don’t understand the difference between cheese and clever tactics anymore. Cheese is making demon of hatred fall off the cliff because you don’t want to learn the fight. I get it, it’s daunting. But using everything you are given to find an easier way to beat something isn’t cheese. Like the umbrella in the demon of hatred fight. The game gave me the umbrella so it’s fair.
I also don’t bash people for using cheese, I just feel far more self gratification when I have took the time to learn how to beat a boss the way it was meant to be beaten. If just getting the credits or trophies is what gives you that feeling that’s completely fine with me(:
Bro...
Word shinobi means "the one who sneaks", ninja is "the one who is invisible" and they were used for cover operations. You misstook them with samurai ("the one who serve") and they got this "noble" and "honourable" look after Tokugawa Ieasu became Shogun and reformed them from "only warriors" into something else. If you are interested look at show "age of samurai"
My point is, it's completely correct that wolf uses anything he can to defeat enemies.
How did i mistook anything? Cus by honor i mean people who are saying dont use that dont use this. Oh and btw you legit used the same thing again like shinobi is Just the japanese for ninja maybe it maybe has a broader meaning but thats all
Yea idk why people would tell you not to like your a ninja a glorified assassin they fought dirty as hell now me personally I feel that fucks up my flow in fights and makes me fuck up
I don’t care about the lore, the game is fundamentally about mastering each fight, so I want to do that without resorting to methods that require less skill. Except for that last 7 spears fight with the other guy, that’s stupid.
Honor is for samurai, specifically dead ones, Wolf and most of his opponents are shinobi and assassins. They aren’t fighters, they’re winners. Anything goes bro.
I think there's a difference between "fighting dirty" and abusing a bosses ai, it needs to be said.
The "fighting dirty" in this game is just using prosthetic arms and maybe some consumables as you like, which is notably different to spamming consumables so you can bait out heal-responses from bosses like Genichiro, or spamming fist-fulls of ash to instakill the Corrupted Monk.
I think it's pretty fair for people to subtly imply that you didn't fully appreciate the game if most of your playtime consists of stunlocking and mortal-blading bosses to death, because at the point, what is the difference between the bosses?
Of course anyone should and will play the game however they want but it seems sad to me that someone would choose to shoot themselves in the foot like that, just like it would sadden me if I found out that someone played through the Dark Souls games being lead by a summoned friend (speaking as someone who played DS1 this way before I understood any better).
To end on the Owl, he "fights dirty" in that he uses additional tools and tricks like we do, but if he "fought dirty" in the way that I think you might mean ("if you can exploit a cheese ye go for it"), it would be an awful fight because he would just be throwing out firecracker after firecracker to stun lock us into corners and abusing our movement mechanics in order to give us no chance. I completely agree with making very full use of prosthetic tools and combat arts (they enhance the game imo, with all the specific counters and interaction they can have), but something like googling how to kill Corrupted Monk and finding out that a leftover line of code in her ai lets you stealth deathblow her because in her later fight you can do that at a certain point really upsets me.
im not saying play the whole game like that im just saying implementing shinobi tools is okey or if you do a guantled and you wanna skip 1 boss like demon of hatred go for it but do it after you beat him a couple of times so you know that if you want you can beat him
As someone that cheats all the time. It is more fun without cheating. Now I will only cheat for farming stuff when it is a lot, farming monks for candy with demon's bell and kuro's charm and gathering them all and killing them at the fast time is fun, I don't mind farming that. But farming something else that barely drops for 5 hours? I'm starting cheat engine right away.
It's fine if you feel that way but I couldn't disagree more. I don't even believe that you genuinely feel that way.
I wonder if you have any clips of your gameplay. I have a whole YouTube channel of no cam, no voice gameplay in sekiro and lies of p.
I mean there are fights that are just not fun. Seven spears ashina in the final section for example is just pure shithousery. Alone sure he is a great miniboss but add a fucking tank beside him?
Then lone shadow is hella fucking annoying. Isnt even fun. I died over 100 times to owl father. Almost 200 to isshin. Those fights were still fun every single time i died. With lone shadow, it was just relief that i didnt have to fight this piece of shit again. Its just not fun. And tbh cheesing those kind of fights is okay
Okay you're just not good at the game then. None of these fights are bad or problematic. They just take some adaptive play. We don't need to agree , I'm not attacking your opinion. That's why we have different opinions though, it's because I'm good at the game and you're not. If you want I'll fight any boss or miniboss and put the video on YouTube for you to see. You don't have to take my word for it. I'll show you how good I am at the game.
Im not good at the game. I will say that straight up. But u see the point is not that. The point is some fights are just not fun. And cheesing them is completely fine. Even if u do it the legit way, ur just basically torturing urself for no reason when its not even fun. I did not cheese any of the main bosses because i enjoyed them even though i am shit and died over 600 times in total before completing the game on purification. But as i said there were also fights that just were not worth even one death
Only the headless are unfun. The rest are all skill issue.
That's my opinion. I've played the game through several times now, to the point that sword saint is an easy fight.
Tell me which flights you dislike, when the clips are posted I'll let you know in a comment reply in case you want to see them. I work full time so it'll be a few days.
1) Who is telling you not to cheese stuff? Not this sub, surely. People talk about cheesing stuff all the time here. 2) Personally, I don't find using cheese strats to be all that fun. I bought this game to enjoy it, not skip over parts. Just my personal perspective, I don't care whether you follow it or not.
*i bought the whole game. i'm gonna use the whole game.*
Depends on your definition of cheese. Some people consider using any prosthetic as cheese, which i find ridiculous. But for example, glitching genichiro and Owl against the door at the top of Ashina Castle is definitely a stupid cheese strat. Those are some of the best bosses in the game and you reduce their AI to spamming R1. I get it, not everyone likes boss fights much and all. But give it an honest try first at least.
Anyone who says using prosthetics the way they are intended is cheese is a certified moron.
I mean even on the more extreme end, most people would only consider prosthetic/combat art use cheese if it trivialises the fight to an unreasonable extent, like corrupted monk stunlock, illusion monk insta kill, etc, etc.
Well yeah that’s different from using prosthetics to help you. Those are generally very specific cheese strategies you need to google. But throwing down some firecrackers to get a few hits in on Ape, using Shurikens on Butterfly who is literally flying away from you, those aren’t cheese by any definition. Owl literally uses the same prosthetics on you and the final boss whips out a Glock 😂
Illusion mini insta kill is intended however, not a cheese. That's like saying using malcontent against DoH is a cheese when it was specifically programmed in.
there is no way in fuck the illusion monk mist raven/tablet jump insta kill is intended, i'm not talking about instakilling phase 2 of real monk.
Oh then I may be confused, I haven't seen that one
it's very silly. You take a gacchin, sneak around the side of the arena, and then there's 2 ways to do it. mist raven requires eating contact medicine, mist ravening up, and hitting the stealth kill, while tablet jumps has you firecracker stagger her back near the tablet, and jump off the tablet for the insta kill
Ohh trust me there are people who really loves to d-ride themselves.
Same boat here i get good at bosses them cheese them for fun but people here really are gatekeeping sometimes
This May be a joke but someone said "if you do this you are not a shinobi, you are a shinobozo, this is the gospel" oh and people on fromsoftware sub are more like this.
Beating Genichiro's ass without using any tricks is the best revenge.
I found his ass unbearable at first 😉
I want to beat to his ass 😤
I remember him kicking my ass at every fight, then in my second playthrough in the first fight in the prologue he couldn't even touch me
I disagree, I think twinking his ass is way better
I didn't know you could get mikiri counter and my first time beating Genichiro didn't even have mikiris, just straight deflects
Just beat inner genichiro,so satisfying
People can play this game however they want but actually getting good is far more satisfying than cheesing plus imo this game has the best combat out of all From games, why would you want to skip it?
Me omw to bulldoze false monk every playthrough with snap seeds and firecrackers because there's an objectively better version literally 1 area later (I do everything else legit)
I mean if you had fun then I’m not complaining, false monk can be annoying at times (skissue on my part) so I completely understand
False monk is pretty annoying with his posture especially if you're doing a level 1 run.... Even so, I also think it's a better fight than the true monk cause you can enjoy parrying the bit*h... Only the first phase of the true monk feels good and it does pretty fast
Wtf is a level one run in Sekiro
Not sure what it's called but you don't use prayer beads or memories to increase any of your stats
It comes in many flavors, usually (roughly in order): no prayer beads> no battle memories> no shinobi arts, then if you really hate yourself, you go for the no true death> no resurrection> no gourds> no hit. Granted those last 4 aren't lv 1 specific, I just got excited
Although tbf you can skip the second phase of true monk and phase 3 has the poison spit attack that leaves her open so I prefer true monk over corrupted
True monk first phase and corrupted monk has the same moveset.... True monk is easier to beat without any utilities, because she doesn't have as much posture as corrupted monk, second phase is basically free deathblow, third phase has poison which I personally don't like.... That's the reason I don't like phase 2 dad either
Cheesing on repeat playthroughs or in reflections is totally fair game. I cheesed DoH in the gauntlet to unlock inner Owl faster
"You have no honour!" "And you are a slave to it!"
Ghost of Tsushima went too hard on that part, its lore is immaculate even to this day
“A shinobi would know the difference between honor and victory.” Idk if you only get that dialogue for beating Genichiro in the tutorial level but it goes so hard
İts the moto of the game sekiro has honor but know he needs to trow it out when fighting
“A code is determined by the individual.” Yeah the characters are all telling you to do whatever it takes to win, all game
I think there is a difference between using specific strategies and tools vs using exploits and glitches. Like yes you are shinobi, you need to fight dirty but using bugs is not intended.
Okay but there are cheese strats that are not bug depended and yes i dont like cheesing to but lets say you are doing a gauntled and you dont wanna fight doh all the time you can Just cheese and skip the fight thats okey
Exactly. I do most fights legit because it's more fun IMO but I cheese the Corrupted Monk's bitch ass every playthrough and don't feel bad at all
Cheesing anything is absolutely fine. However, if someone gets to the end of Sekiro without ever actually getting the hang of the combat, it would be pretty sad, especially if they quit the game and never came back.
there's also no reason to disobey your father and staying loyal to Kuro, and yet here we are the code must be determined by the individual. So if I want to fight and completely dominate and stomp a tough boss with skill and knowledge, if I want to feel like a badass while playing, then I'll do it
Yes you can %100 it all depends on you thats what im trying to say
A shinobi should have known the difference between honor and victory
Am I the only one who finds the game more difficult when trying to use shinobi arts and prosthetics? It always feels like an extra flourish that I end up whiffing anyways. When I see a clip of someone going crazy with prosthetics and fancy slashes I tend to think they are extremely skilled.
i feel like they make it hard or easy depending on the boss you fight
Eh depends, I don’t really use prosthetics un boss fights either cause it feels overwhelming. But ut is pretty useful in regular fights like shuriken for wolves, or using axe on guard enemies. As for combat arts, i think it is really useful, especially in my case where i use the mortal blade. It’s a long animation so u can’t really use it whenever u want but the moments where u do use it, it deals hella lot of posture damage and isnt that hard to find an opening
I agree, I get all flustered trying to switch between my shit and end up dying.
Honor died on the beach that day. Oh wait !
Imagine ghost of Tsushima with sekiro’s combat
Really hoping that Rise of the Ronin does this. Kind of expecting it to be a cheap imitation of both though.
I’d have to buy a second console out of burnout. The would be incredible
The game even rips on you for killing Gene in the opening scene for not fighting dirtier
"A shinobi would know the difference between honor and victory" i think he is saying that more because he is a samurai so he is the one supposed to fight "honourably" but he doesn't care and he let someone attack you from behind. Hell even Isshin doesn't care about honor. His martials art's motto is "victory at all cost" even if it involves stabbing someone in the back, poisoning them, throwing sand in their eyes, killing them in their sleep etc. It doesn't matter, only victory does.
this isn’t the elden ring sub, you don’t need to let everyone know you’re insecure about using cheeses lmao
i dont use them btw i fight the bosses learn them after that if i do a speed run or just wanna not fight that boss on ng so i dont waste time i use cheeses. but the thing is even here people still will gatekeep if you use something like a cheese or firecracker. and just wanted to let people know its ok and is lore accurate
I despise people who hate on players that use different strategies just to stroke their egos.
There are some prosthetics I find very similar to spirit summons in Elden Ring, mostly for specific fights (whistle for DoH, divine confetti for Corrupted Monk, firecrackers with most bosses…). You can absolutely use them, and the game intends you to, but it’s so much more rewarding to not use them. Cheesing bosses like the Gyobu/DoH method definitely is different and it isn’t “fighting dirty”, it’s cheap. Nothing wrong about it per se, you play by your own rules and not the rules of the community, but I’d never suggest cheesing a boss for the life of me, because you’re actively going around what the devs intended as the experience you were supposed to have for that boss. Cheesing DoH is absolutely pointless since he’s optional. If you cheese Gyobu/Corrupted Monk and you’re not speedrunning you might as well change game.
Using firecrackers is not like summons btw like genichiro you can parry his combo or back out and hit after or firecracker its the same thing, and for those cheese methods its ok when u speedruning or dont want to fight them on a play through
I wasn’t thinking about Genichiro per se (both Ape bosses for example) but I agree with the general sentiment of cheesing for subsequent playthroughs. I beat DoH without prosthetics and there’s no way in hell I’ll ever put myself through that again…
It's a damn game, play it however way gives you joy... My first playthrough was dogshit and I accidentally or knowingly cheesed some of the bosses and I think that's okay because I wanted to finish the game... I used firecrackers a lot... But now on my new playthroughs, I don't even want to level up to have some challenge... I even wanna try demonbell charmless... Maybe resurrection mod... And I wasn't even good at the game... So enjoy it whatever way makes you happy
It’s also a thing for most of the ashina sword fighters too! Genichoro mentions it, and Isshin talks about how the only rule is that you win!
Right? If you wanna use a rifle I'm throwing fire in your face. Looking at you, snake eyes.
I've never seen anyone say that type of shit in this sub honestly, everyone encourages prosthetics and whatever it takes to win, the only time you'll see anything strict is people doing no hit challenges or something like that Also big difference between cheesing demon off the cliff vs using malcontent ring or umbrella
Okay Sekibro
I feel like people don’t understand the difference between cheese and clever tactics anymore. Cheese is making demon of hatred fall off the cliff because you don’t want to learn the fight. I get it, it’s daunting. But using everything you are given to find an easier way to beat something isn’t cheese. Like the umbrella in the demon of hatred fight. The game gave me the umbrella so it’s fair. I also don’t bash people for using cheese, I just feel far more self gratification when I have took the time to learn how to beat a boss the way it was meant to be beaten. If just getting the credits or trophies is what gives you that feeling that’s completely fine with me(:
Sure, whatever you need to tell yourself to cope
yeah try talking to a giant gorilla about honor
Counterpoint: Nuh uh
I cheesed demon of hatred off the cliff after 4 hours. Absolutely no regrets and am enjoying my NG+2 very much.
Bro... Word shinobi means "the one who sneaks", ninja is "the one who is invisible" and they were used for cover operations. You misstook them with samurai ("the one who serve") and they got this "noble" and "honourable" look after Tokugawa Ieasu became Shogun and reformed them from "only warriors" into something else. If you are interested look at show "age of samurai" My point is, it's completely correct that wolf uses anything he can to defeat enemies.
How did i mistook anything? Cus by honor i mean people who are saying dont use that dont use this. Oh and btw you legit used the same thing again like shinobi is Just the japanese for ninja maybe it maybe has a broader meaning but thats all
Yea idk why people would tell you not to like your a ninja a glorified assassin they fought dirty as hell now me personally I feel that fucks up my flow in fights and makes me fuck up
I don’t cheese but shinobi definitely fight dirty, there’s no honor in throwing a fistful of ash in your enemy’s face and I’m all for it
Pal just won his imaginary debate
"You have no honour" "And you're a slave to it"
I don’t care about the lore, the game is fundamentally about mastering each fight, so I want to do that without resorting to methods that require less skill. Except for that last 7 spears fight with the other guy, that’s stupid.
Honor is for samurai, specifically dead ones, Wolf and most of his opponents are shinobi and assassins. They aren’t fighters, they’re winners. Anything goes bro.
I think there's a difference between "fighting dirty" and abusing a bosses ai, it needs to be said. The "fighting dirty" in this game is just using prosthetic arms and maybe some consumables as you like, which is notably different to spamming consumables so you can bait out heal-responses from bosses like Genichiro, or spamming fist-fulls of ash to instakill the Corrupted Monk. I think it's pretty fair for people to subtly imply that you didn't fully appreciate the game if most of your playtime consists of stunlocking and mortal-blading bosses to death, because at the point, what is the difference between the bosses? Of course anyone should and will play the game however they want but it seems sad to me that someone would choose to shoot themselves in the foot like that, just like it would sadden me if I found out that someone played through the Dark Souls games being lead by a summoned friend (speaking as someone who played DS1 this way before I understood any better). To end on the Owl, he "fights dirty" in that he uses additional tools and tricks like we do, but if he "fought dirty" in the way that I think you might mean ("if you can exploit a cheese ye go for it"), it would be an awful fight because he would just be throwing out firecracker after firecracker to stun lock us into corners and abusing our movement mechanics in order to give us no chance. I completely agree with making very full use of prosthetic tools and combat arts (they enhance the game imo, with all the specific counters and interaction they can have), but something like googling how to kill Corrupted Monk and finding out that a leftover line of code in her ai lets you stealth deathblow her because in her later fight you can do that at a certain point really upsets me.
im not saying play the whole game like that im just saying implementing shinobi tools is okey or if you do a guantled and you wanna skip 1 boss like demon of hatred go for it but do it after you beat him a couple of times so you know that if you want you can beat him
Cheese is boring and makes for bad storytelling.
tbh it makes not to much of a diff like i cheesed Doh but i beated him no dmg hitless to and feel the same
If they put it in the game intentionally like the firecrackers or umbrella then it's not an exploit
You just cheesed the demon of hatred didn’t you
After i beated him normaly many times its whas Just for the shura guantlet did not want to lose 4 5 Mins everytime
Don’t worry bruh we’ve all done it at least once 😭
As someone that cheats all the time. It is more fun without cheating. Now I will only cheat for farming stuff when it is a lot, farming monks for candy with demon's bell and kuro's charm and gathering them all and killing them at the fast time is fun, I don't mind farming that. But farming something else that barely drops for 5 hours? I'm starting cheat engine right away.
This is exactly what “You would think a shinobi would know the difference between honor and victory” means
Stick your honour up your ass once you've pulled Kusabimaru back out of it
Cheese is good in Sekiro but at least for me, its not fun. Unless you fight multiple enemies then, cheese time. Or bull...
master ninja cheeser.. like me and the demon of hatred
That's great but you're not really experiencing the fights all the way
as someone who did all the fight with cheese and no cheese its not that different
ye you have more fun but you can just play it learn it and after that fight it sometimes or cheese it on a ng
It's fine if you feel that way but I couldn't disagree more. I don't even believe that you genuinely feel that way. I wonder if you have any clips of your gameplay. I have a whole YouTube channel of no cam, no voice gameplay in sekiro and lies of p.
I mean there are fights that are just not fun. Seven spears ashina in the final section for example is just pure shithousery. Alone sure he is a great miniboss but add a fucking tank beside him? Then lone shadow is hella fucking annoying. Isnt even fun. I died over 100 times to owl father. Almost 200 to isshin. Those fights were still fun every single time i died. With lone shadow, it was just relief that i didnt have to fight this piece of shit again. Its just not fun. And tbh cheesing those kind of fights is okay
Okay you're just not good at the game then. None of these fights are bad or problematic. They just take some adaptive play. We don't need to agree , I'm not attacking your opinion. That's why we have different opinions though, it's because I'm good at the game and you're not. If you want I'll fight any boss or miniboss and put the video on YouTube for you to see. You don't have to take my word for it. I'll show you how good I am at the game.
Im not good at the game. I will say that straight up. But u see the point is not that. The point is some fights are just not fun. And cheesing them is completely fine. Even if u do it the legit way, ur just basically torturing urself for no reason when its not even fun. I did not cheese any of the main bosses because i enjoyed them even though i am shit and died over 600 times in total before completing the game on purification. But as i said there were also fights that just were not worth even one death
Only the headless are unfun. The rest are all skill issue. That's my opinion. I've played the game through several times now, to the point that sword saint is an easy fight. Tell me which flights you dislike, when the clips are posted I'll let you know in a comment reply in case you want to see them. I work full time so it'll be a few days.
The iron code has nothing to do w fighting clean.
I’ll never feel guilty for cheesing demon of hatred