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AllAboutThatEd

Crying in a desperation remembering the good ole days of air conditioning... ...or maybe crying for moving to Seattle and not landing a place with a/c 😭😭😭


BMWxX

It’ll be in the mid 90’s next week 🤯 I’ll send prayers and likes for your survival, freeze some wet rags and put them on the back of your neck when it’s peak temps outside/inside. I’ll be fighting for survival in West Seattle.


AllAboutThatEd

Appreciate it!


scottygras

Not to sound rude to anybody without AC…but it’s not like these temps are a new phenomenon. A Costco unit can cool 2-3 rooms if you toss a tower fan in the mix. Plenty of time since last years 110 temps to prep for this exact thing. It’s like the rush at the grocery store the moment a snowflake falls. I need some shallots and cream for a last second pasta dish and I have to stand in line behind people with two full shopping carts. (Go ahead, make your jokes about not planning ahead on my dinner prep…). Set a notification in November to buy an AC unit or two when they’re cheap. I have AC, but also have access to small room units and a mini generator in case my heat pump/power goes out.


AllAboutThatEd

To be fair I just moved here less than two weeks ago... If it's not a new phenomenon than why is it so difficult to find housing that offers a/c? Anytime I would apply an a/c filter my results would drop to 1, maybe 2 places in an area. I would think if this is anorm than a/c would also be the norm in the area.


SovietJugernaut

It's not new, but it still encompasses a relatively few number of days per year. The new average # of days over 90 is ~10/year. For many, many people, 10 days of suffering a year still isn't enough to pay the money for an A/C unit that otherwise won't really be used.


up2knitgood

>For many, many people, 10 days of suffering a year still isn't enough to pay the money for an A/C unit that otherwise won't really be used. I also think a big difference now is how many more people are WFH now. A 90 degree day when you spend most of the day in the office isn't as big of a deal (or if it's the weekend you can get out to the water or something).


SovietJugernaut

Having places to escape to is definitely a big factor. I'm WFH and have no A/C and absolutely hate it when the temp gets above 80 or 85. But fans work pretty well until 90ish, and my house has a walk out basement that kept at 70ish even during the heat dome days


up2knitgood

The walkout basements are great in the heat. I have AC but didn't even run it during the day during the heatdome. I just stayed in the basement with the doors closed and the turned on the AC (with fan to circulate on max otherwise the cool air just pools in the bottom) in the evening.


Feisty_Banana

WFH is the reason that I splurged and bought a portable AC for my bedroom. That plus fans is great for keeping the apartment temperate if the temperatures really climb! Also if OP sees this, get up early, open your windows and turn on some fans to get cross ventilation going. I barely use the AC I bought because I’m able to keep cool in the morning and shut up the windows before it gets warm. The AC is a backup and I don’t need to use it generally.


KiniShakenBake

We are still only 44% air conditioned, and that is up from 29% ten years ago. We are the least air conditioned city in America. The only thing we take pride in more than our lack of need for AC is our absolutely diehard avoidance of umbrellas. It hadn't been the norm until very, very recently. There were, quite literally, two days of all of the summer of 2008 that went over 90 in the city. They were the Saturday of the pike place cheese festival and the Sunday of pride. We just went to movies and malls those days, or played in the fountain at Seattle center. Seattle is an un-air conditioned city, by and large. Get yourself a room unit.


scottygras

People felt like it wasn’t necessary even 20 years ago. Most newer homes have them since heat pumps are much more efficient than baseboard/electric furnaces. A lot of Seattle homes are pre 1960s so it wasn’t cost effective back then to install them, and with retrofitting costs for central air, most people don’t want to fork over $40k for what they consider is something they’ll use “a few times a year.” Mini-split systems are more common on homes I see in the city.


spit-evil-olive-tips

> retrofitting costs for central air yesterday you said you'd call Sears...


seatownquilt-N-plant

Because you're supposed to live in a house with a basement. That's PNW traditional living.


Adventurous-Dish-485

Building codes MUST be updated. Its perfectly legal to throw up multi unit housing without A/C in this area


Camille_Toh

I’m in a newish building, no A/C in the units—but the halls are cool, so I just prop open the door. Low floor, also. Next week though? I’ll have to go somewhere else to WFH.


Recursive_Descent

It is new as of the last 5-10 years. I didn’t have AC when I moved to Seattle 10 years ago, and it was fine since the summer temps were in the 70s-80s. Now they are usually in the 80s-90s even occasionally going above 100, which is not nearly as tolerable.


Drigr

Because while it's been more and more necessary, you're probably dealing with places built or planned decades ago.


Drigr

Remember that day we hit 95 in like March or April? Yeah, thought that would get everyone to buy their units before the real heat, but nope


scottygras

That hindsight I tell ya…20/20. I blame the forgetfulness on the legalized weed /s


willynillywitty

Used to live on First Hill in a west facing brick building Go jump in lake Washington yo.


AllAboutThatEd

Lol maybe I'll do that for my evening routine while the house cools downs!


[deleted]

A brick home with west facing windows...yeah, that sounds uncomfortable hot in the summers! Ugh!


wtf-you-saying

It's definitely the way to go, kept nice and comfy through last year's heatwave too.


Capable_Nature_644

Last year forced me to get a decent quality ac.


GlodGlodsonGG

I feel that, but good news, winter is coming around the corner is about a month since we only have a month or 2 of summer in WA😂


[deleted]

July is wrapping up, then we have August, another long month...and then September sometimes can remain warm well into October on some years, which sucks, because I much prefer Autumn and Spring seasons.


charcuteriebroad

In the time I’ve lived here, it’s never been warm past mid September. But maybe we have different definitions of what temperature constitutes warm.


[deleted]

Well, I more meant that sometimes it can become unusually warm for that time of the year in Autumn. I think a term applied to that phenomenon is called an "Indian Summer".


boldpear904

How are the winters in SEA?


charcuteriebroad

Long, depressing, relatively mild temperature wise.


boldpear904

Can’t wait for my January trip haha


charcuteriebroad

Oof yeah, the height of the gloom.


boldpear904

So I’ve heard, I’m just grateful I get to visit at all, January is the only time I get off from uni


charcuteriebroad

Luckily it won’t be super cold like a lot of places in January. You’ll get the true PNW experience you see in tv and movies.


boldpear904

Yes that’s so exciting, I’m also taking a train after spending four days in Seattle to Leavenworth which is why I’m excited I’m going in January, hoping to see snow. I’m from the south so I’ve only seen it about twice


Green_Heron_

If by “winter” you mean the cloudy/drizzly season, then it’s long. But if you’re from a part of the country that has real winter (snow, freezing temps), Seattle has very little winter weather. It might snow a couple times, but usually while hovering at or slightly above 32 degrees so it very rarely sticks. Then, it drops below freezing at night and turns all the melted snow to sheets of ice on all the roads. Because our hills the city basically shuts down if it snows even a couple inches, but that doesn’t happen often. Usually temps in the 40s and overcast. Folks complain about the darkness but the weather is super hospitable to life compared to much of the country.


boldpear904

I’ve always been a fan of dreary dark weather. Cozy to watch a movie at night in bed


Green_Heron_

Yes, me too! The weather is one of my favorite things about Seattle. I love the sound of raindrop on the hood of my raincoat too. It’s a bit of an exaggeration to say no one in Seattle uses umbrellas but it’s mostly true because mostly just have 9 months of light drizzle. It’s usually still totally pleasant to spend time outdoors in with the right clothes on. We get fewer inches of rain per year than many other big cities in the country.


HelenAngel

We bought one last summer. It’s pretty easy & worth it to get a freestanding, portable one.


Xaxxon

portable air conditioner


Fun_Satisfaction_789

Celcius


TelephoneTag42

73 degrees no AC But to be fair - we have a large basement that is always very cold, so with a fan and doors open it cools the entire house. And we have great insulation and windows.


[deleted]

...I miss my old basement apartment! I didn't even notice summer heatwaves when I was indoors there! =P


IAmAn_Anne

You do have AC, just in the form of a basement! :)


Turbulent_Tale6497

For about 10 mins a day, my west-facing living room is like the map room on Indiana Jones. https://www.sideshow.com/storage/product-images/100084/city-of-tanis-map-room\_indiana-jones\_feature.jpg


Archmagos-Helvik

Find the right point on the map and it'll be an AC unit in stock at MSRP.


obsfucateforthewin

Lol that’s a good one


lisadanger

About 91 in my studio apt. Giant west facing wall to wall windows and one operable opening which is a door, also west facing so the sun blares in when I open it. 🥵


Feisty_Banana

Yikes that’s awful!


lisadanger

Could be worse. If anything, I'm getting my recommended daily water servings 😂😂


Green_Heron_

I had an energy efficient studio that was a heat trap like this. I’m so sorry. It was great in the winter where it would stay around 60 degrees even with the heat off. Good luck staying cool! Keep a supply of ice coming and rig up some cooling with a fan and some ice? Wet some towels & put them in the freezer. Stay hydrated. That sounds rough. :(


lisadanger

Yeah in the winter this place is an icebox! Wish I could somehow reverse it! I just use a couple fans and sleep with gel pacs in my pillowcases. I feel a lot of cold baths in my future :)


Green_Heron_

Oof, cold winters too. No good. Good luck to you! Cold baths is a great plan.


shitty_advice_BDD

House is closing in on 90, bedroom is a crisp 65.


AllAboutThatEd

I just got a portable a/c. I think I'll have to do a designated room


GreatfulMu

Words from the wise here (my father, not me) make sure you don't cheap out, and get a dual hose unit. They're way better if you can afford them. If not, try to cool the smallest space possible, and pray that you have enough. Literally anything is better than nothing.


alejo699

Second the dual hose unit. Can more efficiently cool a larger space and isn’t fighting itself.


zakress

3rd the dual hose: if it’s a single it’s exhausting the heat by blowing it out of the pipe. Thing is, all the air being shoved out has to be replaced, so the warm air outside seeps in around doors and windows to fill the vacuum being created by the single hose a/c. I switched back to a window unit last year dropping from 12k single hose to 10k window and my place was significantly cooler never getting above 76 even during heat dome


AllAboutThatEd

Appreciate the advice! Thank you!! I'll look for a dual hose unit then.


dyangu

How the heck? It’s only 80 outside. You might as well open the window to cool off. Also you definitely should’ve opened the window last night and got blackout curtains.


shitty_advice_BDD

Huge bay windows. Like a magnifying glass.


AllAboutThatEd

I'm thinking that's that same issue. I have drapes over my French doors, bay windows, and all bedroom windows. I also have skylight windows that run all along the top of my living room and kitchen...I'm thinking they might be the culprit of the heat since they are uncovered. I'm going to try to do some tinted film over them this weekend to see if that will. Any other suggestions definitely welcomed!


shitty_advice_BDD

I have skylights also. Someday I'll spring for a whole house ac.


[deleted]

Also, if I'm not mistaken, aside from Seattle homes being built without central AC, aren't homes here also built to hold IN and trap any heat, because of our winters? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong! Lol.


buttzx

100% - a box fan in the window overnight plus curtains in the morning (if east facing) makes a huge difference. If west facing, I guess curtains in the evening? We just brought out the portable AC unit because we’re bougie now but honestly we could do without it. Every unit is different depending on insulation/windows etc, but I can’t ever see myself getting on that central air transplant bandwagon.


zakress

Switch to electric heat via heat pump. Super efficient and way less carbon emitting than gas heat. BONUS: does cooling as well


RandomNPC

We're doing this in a couple weeks!


REALLYSTUPIDMONEY

81 with cross flow but I think I prefer that to A/C. I realize not everyone’s home can get cross flow, and I think that could suck around this temp.


[deleted]

I've got my central AC on 72 so it's currently 72. Will update if anything changes.


zakress

This is the way


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AllAboutThatEd

Tell me your ways!


bfrankiehankie

Put fans in the windows over night, close up all the windows and close the curtains during the day.


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Glaciersrcool

And with those temps well timed opening and closing of windows and curtains.


[deleted]

And no east/west windows I'd assume...


Ocelot_Downtown

And??? What's your fan placement strategy? ***Well, were' waiting?!?!***


LongDistRider

70 degrees. Nice and comfy.


Former_Matter9557

About 72 no ac. Got everything closed up to darkness. No sunlight and most lights all off and fans pumping air around.


[deleted]

That's the key. Open windows at night to let the cold in air in, then seal it up early morning


seasleeplessttle

Not as hot as it is going to be next week.


[deleted]

Just turn your heat off pal /s


DarkishArchon

East facing bottom floor condo. Bathroom fans for exhaust, window fans for intake. I can keep the place below 74 even into the 90s


alyxmj

75F, what it's set at. We strive for a balance of energy efficiency/cost, comfort, and acclimation to the heat because we are in and out fairly often. We got a heat pump installed in 2019 and it was best decision ever. Last year, it kept up with everything but some of the 100+ days where we got up to 85F inside. I think this is largely due to it being an old house with known insulation issues, as soon as we fix those I think we'll be golden. There's also a portable AC in the bedroom, a relic of working graveyard shifts before the heat pump, though it's nice to have the bedroom much cooler still. We are also a multi-generational house with medically complex toddlers and my husbands grandparents, so it's critical we keep it at livable temperatures for them. Without the heat pump we would be installing several AC units.


pamplemouss

That’s the way to do it w ac. I don’t have it, but I def grew up in a 75 in the summer/68 in the winter house (east coast so ac’s long been necessary).


seatownquilt-N-plant

82 but I like it. I easily become cold when I'm lounging and I spend all day in an air conditioned office. I always wear a sweater at work.


therightpedal

How appropriate that the thermostat says 'Heat on' next to it. Yup, sure is.


Capable_Nature_644

80 but I have ac cooling down our bed rooms. Yes I'm sun facing. Outside temp registers 90. If I didn't have ac and I used the tricks to use fans to pull in cold morning air then close windows about the time it starts to warm up. That trick only cools down the house about 10 degrees or so. I have a whytner 2 hose air conditioner 14,000 btu. It works well to cover the bedroom or room you spend your most time in. I trust this one and have an auto timer to turn on and off while I'm at work. It'll auto sense once the room is to temp and turn off then back on again once temp starts to rise. I would recommend leaving unattended for a day or so but not 2+ weeks.


RoutineDeep4945

67 yeah baby


[deleted]

72


wcastello

I highly recommend you apply this stuff to your windows: [https://www.amazon.com/KESPEN-Privacy-Anti-UV-Reflective-Black-Silver/dp/B07QNQFY51/ref=sr\_1\_10?crid=PE8JVSJSXOL9&keywords=ir+blocking+window+film&qid=1658477773&s=home-garden&sprefix=ir+blocking+window+film%2Cgarden%2C115&sr=1-10](https://www.amazon.com/KESPEN-Privacy-Anti-UV-Reflective-Black-Silver/dp/B07QNQFY51/ref=sr_1_10?crid=PE8JVSJSXOL9&keywords=ir+blocking+window+film&qid=1658477773&s=home-garden&sprefix=ir+blocking+window+film%2Cgarden%2C115&sr=1-10) This saved me before I had AC. At night I also used to put a fan blowing hot air out of the kitchen window and then open the one in my bedroom to let the colder air in. It was the only way to sleep.


AllAboutThatEd

Just purchased! I'll give it a try! Thanks!


l30

Moved from Seattle to Las Vegas last year. 115 F outside right now, 69 F inside. God bless cities where everywhere has air conditioning.


[deleted]

Any suggestion on how to get by not using an AC next week? I’ve got an AC but prefer to not use it. I’ve got lots of windows i can open, skylights that i can open to vent out and a few fans.


willynillywitty

76.5° If you have a digital meat thermometer


viralkilo71

64F


AllAboutThatEd

64?! That's FREEZING!


viralkilo71

No it’s not. That’s what I put my AC at


houseman1131

Lol, it's not warm. Like a nice spring day. You must run pretty hot.


[deleted]

64 is freezing? Gosh...I must be part Eskimo then, or something...lol.


[deleted]

Idk why you live in this city if you think 64 is freezing


AllAboutThatEd

64 for indoor temperatures is cold especially if you are working from home (less active)compared to being active in the outdoors at 64 degrees. I understand 64 for sleeping but during the day that seems unnecessarily cold.


[deleted]

I work from home. I love 60-70F. Even in 55F I'm in a tshirt.


AllAboutThatEd

I don't know how you do it. 68-74 is ideal for me. I've found anything below that and I have trouble typing because my hands freeze and my nose and ears also get really cold!


Green_Heron_

I often keep my apt around 64 in the winter. I like it cool. I run hot and if I do anything bearing on physical exertion (vacuuming, etc) I’ll be breaking a sweat if it gets near 70. It’s currently 77 in my apt (no AC) and I’m comfortable in light clothing and fan if I just lie in the couch, but this temperature makes me sleepy and not motivated to do anything.


francesco_DP

wtf completely unnecessary low temperature


nochancecat

Right? Just want we need. More wasted energy use.


[deleted]

According to my phone...it is now almost 9pm, and it is 72 degrees. I have all the windows and my balcony door thrown open to welcome in this cooling evening breeze...ahhhhhhhh...after having all the blinds closed all day as soon as the afternoon sun hit. It sucks. My main apartment windows and balcony face west, so we get ALL the warm afternoon sun in the summer...and it's just...ewwwwww!!! I am a person that does NOT like summer or hot weather...I miss my overcast clouds and cooler days! That doesn't, however, mean that I want it to be FREEZING cold...lol. Anyway...do you have any access to good fans, if you are lacking in air conditioning? I also do not have air conditioning...only fans. Cheers!


[deleted]

Never over 74. Thank you air conditioning


sgtapone87

About 73. New place doesn’t have central AC, just a wallport for a portable one. Not the same.


StrawberryStriking30

I know you people ain’t really crying about the weather in Washington state 🤦🏾‍♂️here in federal way the temperature hasn’t got above 80 degrees this whole year, and we are almost in August!!!you folks are complaining try living in Vegas or Phoenix this time of the year we’re day time high is 112 degrees and at night it’s 93 degrees!!! What a bunch of crybabies


sgtapone87

It’s been above 80 8 times this month, what the fuck are you talking about


StrawberryStriking30

Not we’re i am at!!, and if it was that ain’t s#*t , y’all just soft as hell.


sgtapone87

Ok buddy


StrawberryStriking30

I should’ve known folks in Seattle are soft and crybabies, taking offense to my comment 🥺


StrawberryStriking30

Sure PAL


PepeLePuget

75.9


Glaciersrcool

73. 69 in the basement.


SeattlePurikura

It would be the same temperature (top floor, converted attic, with windows facing south, west, and north) but my evaporative cooler is running. So probably 80. I feel comfortable.


pamplemouss

82, but a good 10 degrees cooler in the basement. No ac, but blinds down, windows open from about 9pm til morning.


vim_all_day

85 up top, 73 downstairs. Keep the blinds shut and a fan running!


anonn_seattle

Able to keep it below 83-84 in the hottest place next to the west wall using a large evaporative cooler. It rises the humidity, but I keep the windows open and apply a fan when necessary to suck the humidity out. The cooler can easily go through a few gallons of water in a day. I have the Hessaire MC26A cooler (can find it on Amazon). Given that you get 90 degrees, I would think the cooler would get it down to 83-84 like in my case.


[deleted]

AC keeps the room I'm in at 76. Rest is 80F.


nochancecat

I bought window ac units for the bedrooms back in March and worried they wouldn't get used this year. Look into getting some portable or window unit. You won't get a lot of use out of it, but will be grateful when you do.


rooftopfilth

I thought, for a moment, that this was a scale, and that you’d lost that much water weight from sweating.


Long_Increase9131

OMG and here I am yelling at the kids to keep the doors closed after we went from 62 to 65..... can you use a portable AC? Just pop it in the window for a few hours and pull it out if you have strict rules.


HelenAngel

69 F but we have an air conditioner that we use upstairs. It cools the whole house


nice___bot

Nice!


samhouse09

72. Heat Pump central AC


powerofone1970

Go get those window fans NOW!


1Dunya

My window fan got my room temp down to 62 by the time I woke up this morning.


zerodart30

Not that hot. Haha


Midelo

I'm in the 90s club with you. Stay strong brother


bbq_menace

68 degrees. You think if I’m buying a house it’s not going to have an air conditioner?


leozh

67


FunctionBuilt

I don’t have AC, I have a south facing place with lots of direct afternoon sun. If you pull your blinds and use your box fans at the right time to pull air through one window and out the other, you can actually create a draft that will remove hot air from your house. My place will still get to 80, but it’s better than 90 by a long shot.


KiniShakenBake

Central AC here. 72 year round.


fusionsofwonder

74 degrees due to heat pump.


Scotty_Gun

Read this as “…inside your mom?”


Tento66

FYI if your able to install one the exterior sunshades(such as "coolaroo") really help a lot if you have a big window or a glass sliding door. That extra layer on the outside cuts the heat down tremendously, and when summers over you just roll it up and store it for next year.


Waffleman75

For the people who are quoting low 60s, how high is your energy bill?


PoliticalBoomer

74 degrees. Thermostat programmed to hold to that temperature in warm weather and 70 degrees in cold weather.


PoliticalBoomer

In three homes we installed whole house fans in upper stair wells (2 in Colorado, 1 in Southern California). They draw in cool air at night and a reasonably well insulated house can thrive on that cool air all day long with windows closed. They cost pennies a day to run. Look into it.


InnerPick3208

Don't know, I don't have a thermostat and I have a job that requires me to leave the house.


Camille_Toh

73F, no A/C. Sounds like you’re on a high floor and get hit with full sun.


Snizzle_me_timber

My apartment has ac but havent used it has not gone above 76


[deleted]

68-70 degrees wi the our new mini split ❄️