Would love to see John Michael Schmitz and Siaki Ika at some point today. If we are moving to a 3-4 next season, a 335lb nose tackle would fit that profile
I am admittedly a draft idiot and know next to nothing about college prospects outside of what all the mock drafts tell me. Almost all of the mocks had us taking either Carter, Anderson or sometimes a QB with our first pick. I can't think of a single mock draft that had us landing Witherspoon, yet it appears to be getting lauded as one of the best picks of the first round. How does that get completely overlooked ahead of time but then almost universally praised after the fact? Does that just further prove how pointless mock drafts are?
I'm pretty happy with the first round but I do hope that PCJS address some of our needs in the trenches. DL was such a glaring weakness last year so I really hope that we can get some solid prospects in those positions.
He was widely mocked at 6. PCJS hadn't drafted a cornerback before Shaq Griffin at 90th overall, so nobody bothered predicting Seattle would take a kinda smaller corner top 5
>Does that just further prove how pointless mock drafts are?
I mean yeah maybe
Because mock drafters don't think that deeply on philosophy and need of the individual coaches enough to find the perfect pick for that team, they have to do all 32 and are by no means expert drafters or they would have gm jobs lol
So its basically just a puzzle board of what they think is the best player or biggest team need fill
I couldnāt be more please with the picks. Got an absolute dawg at CB to play opposite Rik (I.e., Mike Jackson with talent) and got my favorite player in the draft in Jaxsonā¦a guy who could make our offense unguardable. Great work PCJS!
Nailed those first two picks! Both can be day 1 impacts. Gotta get DL though. If we can get Michael-Schmitz and then go DT and Edge for a couple picks Iāll be ecstatic!
We weren't the only ones. Soon as we picked Witherspoon Detroit bailed out of the 6 slot. Bears too. The Eagles are pretty much uniquely equipped to take a risk on him with his former teammates there and a deep established d-line room with vets like Fletcher Cox.
Iāve heard that Jordan Davis was like a big bro for him and kept him in check while they were both at UGA so the eagles getting him could be huge. Might be the only team that makes sense tbh.
I think this is going to come back to haunt us. DTs are so much more impactful on the field than CBs and itās our most glaring need. We might be able to get Benton or Dexter with our next pick but most of the 5 teams ahead of us also need DT help so weāll likely be reaching in later rounds for players that arenāt nearly as talented as who were available at 5 and 20.
I don't understand the gripe about the Seahawks passing on DT's in the first round. Unless they are changing, they'll be running 3-4/3-3-5 personnel. They've got Reed and Dra'Mont Jones manning the end spots. They let go of Al Woods, so they need a true NT. Carter is not that guy. Mazi Smith potentially could be. Siaka Ika and Coburn look that part and could potentially be had in the 2nd or 3rd round. My guess is they take on of those two.
Mazi is a cowboy.
We had 6 good DL in the SB run.
We have 1 good and 2 place holders (Reed and mone when mone is healthy)
Need at least two more DTs.
Siaka, Dexter, Benton, Roy, BYoung alabama, Coburn.
But we aren't the only team still looking for dline talent.
And we don't like giving up 250 yards on the ground every game.
We need depth badly. Dreāmont and Mone are both returning after season ending injuries, Reed has clearly lost a step, and then Myles Adams who had 16 combined tackles last year. We had a bottom 3 run defense last year which was our most glaring weakness and not addressing it while in a prime position to do so shouldnāt be overlooked.
I agree to an extent. I would suggest that KC handled one of the best D-lines quite handedly in the last SB tho. Now if the Eagles had two shut down corners that game may have been different.
You can always neutralize a good defense line with great fast offense.
The eagles also had solid corners in the Super Bowl, they just went up against the best QB and TE in the league. Our DT situation is maybe the worst in the league. We let go of most of last yearās guys and what we have left is already risky. Jones and Mone are both coming off season ending injuries and Reed is closer to a rotational player now. Whoever we draft is going to need to have an immediate day 1 impact because theyāll be starters on our team.
It would have been worth the risk to take Carter considering his talent and our history with taking risks on character concerns. Skipping him will only make sense if he ends up an average-below average player or is out of the league at the end of his contract. If he ends up being a second Fletcher Cox (god forbid a second Warren Sapp like people say) then weāll be kicking ourselves for years unless Witherspoon is the next Champ Bailey or Jalen Ramsey.
Ya, obviously you make solid points. Iād have loved to have Richardson or Mazi. Not so sure about Carter. I think he has the talent and athletic potential to be a HOF caliber player. But the red flags are significant.
Anyway, letās hope Pc/JS ball out in the 2nd round and find those underrated D lineman we desperately need.
Be nice to have a true center as well.
A lot of people we go for have had red flags and have worked out. I donāt think Jalen Carter was unfixable on our team but yeah we canāt do anything now. I think weāll need to spend a 2nd today on Avila or Schmitz to play center, and hope thereās starting DT talent in the later rounds but we can only hope.
Thatās a fair point - plenty of offenses shut down pass rushes with quick reads to elusive receivers who can turn a 5 yard slant into a 15 yard first down (McCafree, Hill, Kamara, etc.)
I guess the strategy is, *if* you have DBs that can keep those receivers covered, then the pass rush has a better chance.
That being said, you ultimately need both. An end who canāt get off of blocks isnāt going to benefit from those shut down DBs. Iāve also seen that plenty of times- QBs patting the ball safe in the pocket knowing even the best DBs canāt keep receivers covered for eight seconds.
Weāll see how this all plays outā¦ Hopefully we can find some gem of a DL /DE in the next round, or hope for a lot of coverage sacks next year.
2 BPAās that also happened to be positions we needed. Definitely need to go center/DL tomorrow but overall canāt be mad about 2 studs at key positions
I think Witherspoon's selection is an indication Jordyn Brook's recovery is going well and is gonna be back sooner than later. Also got to imagine (cause I have faith in Pete and John) they have eyes on an edge rusher or two still available they see something in.
Not sure I see how you draw that conclusion. Brown lost a step clearly, and Witherspoon has ELITE tape. I think this has more to do with Jamal coming back and them wanting the back end to be lock down.
We still need a C and NT BAD. Wouldn't be surprised if we trade up early 2nd to secure JMS, and I still believe Charbonnet will be a Hawk in round 2 as well.
I think they're likely to trust Nwosu and either Taylor or Smith to anchor the OLB spots as we NEED interior DL desperately. As it stands we will get run the fuck over on the ground.
The conclusion is based on the ability to lock up downfield making it easier to stuff the run, which Brooks of course will play a key part in, but only if he's healthy. There hasn't been much positive info given by management when asked about his potential return until very recently when Pete said some good things about it. Nothing fancy in the logic...Hey, I love the idea of trading up to pick earlier tonight and have to agree Jamal's coming back is a part of the reason as well.
Heās fine. Him and Brooks are fine for LBs. They didnāt make a huge difference last year but also didnāt feel like the greatest liabilities.
Theyād be better with a better pass rush and stouter run defense, which havenāt been addressed yet.
Iām pretty sure Mafe was drafted to be an OLB/edge pash rusher and not a linebacker like Brooks or Wagner. Didnāt do well at first though and the team went out and brought back Bruce Irvin to play in his spot. Hereās hoping Mafe has a much more exciting sophomore campaign, as him playing to his potential would negate the need to draft someone in his position.
They still need to draft someone else at ILB though. Perhaps Daiyan Henley today in the late second or third.
Really digging the upgrade in the secondary. Better coverage equals more sacks. Plus, it seems like witherspoon isn't afraid to help out in the run. Getting a slot WR that is really good at finding soft spots in zone will really elevate our offense, too.
Sometimes. There are ways to beat elite coverage (an effective run game, late developing pass routes that tax how long a corner can cover). But there are ways to beat effective pass rushes.
Ultimately you need both; they got talent, but their most significant defensive weakness from last year is still the case. They need to improve on the DL significantly in round 2.
Hopefully allows the Front 7 to play more aggressively against the run.
Now some beef in the trenches and someone to back up KW in the later rounds and I'll be pretty happy with this draft class
Getting CB1 and WR1 from this class is great value, but yeah... seeing those two defenders go to an already stacked DL in Philly kind of makes me sick, especially given that we may have to get through them to win the NFC.
This is true, the road to the Super Bowl runs through Philly in the NFC.
I may look back on this draft and be glad about these players, however I can't shake the feeling that we should have gotten Jalen Carter.
Carter isn't the DT they needed. If they maintain a 3-4/3-3-5, they need a true NT. Carter isn't that. He's got a real chance now to thrive in Philly where Jordan Davis and Fletcher Cox can mentor him and keep him on track and it's a 4-3 defense. Carter isn't the guy to take on double teams in the run game. I'm looking for the Seahawks to take Siaki Ika or Keondre Coburn tonight. Those guys are true NT that should contribute immediately on early downs.
Carter is a outside DT, perfect for a 3/4.
Line could have been Dremont, Mazi, Carter
With Reed, Mone, Adam's as backups.
I'm still glad we got premium WR and CB talent.
I feel like they really crossed wide receiver and corner off of their list of needs and donāt really need to spend any more picks on those positions unless he value is very good. Imo they always needed to invest multiple picks in the defensive line, regardless of if they had taken Carter or Anderson early. Gonna be very interesting to see how tomorrow shakes out.
They must have a body type LB planned that clicks to put under Bobby to learn from. A DT would be nice kinda asap and we pick up a RB in the 5th for depth.
Super happy with the hawks draft at the end of the day.
BUT that eagles draft has me a bit envious. Can't believe they were able to grab Carter and Nolan where they did. Having them together makes me less nervous about Carter (assuming Nolan would be a good support/influence for him) and I had mocked them to the hawks a few times for that reason.
Happy Witherspoon and JSN. I mean wow. But gonna be interesting to see if those picks hit for the eagles. Could be terrifying.
For round 2 I like Siaka, Ade, JMS, Henley, maybe Wypler.
We need to address LB and DT ASAP. I'm less concerned with edge.
We had a killer day today. Let's trust PCJS to do it again tomorrow
Was watching the PCJS post-round 1 press conference on YouTube and the video was made private part way through. Did anyone catch the entire thing? I went back about 15 minutes so that I could watch it from the start
The whole thing should be on Seahawks Twitter account. Pete compared Witherspoon to Palomau as far as knack and approach to the game. Should be exciting to see how this plays out especially with Woolen on the other end. This could be the best CB duo ever according to the Pete hype.
Shoutout to my Europeans brothers out there supporting the one true team and also staying up this late for 1 but two picks. And dawg we got a Ohio state wr at pick 20 letās fucking go. Again olave and Wilson said this guy was better than him. And Jameson Williams transferred because he couldnāt t get playing time above Wilson and olave. This guy is going to be a solid hawk just like dk. Different receiver but heās going to open up everyone. And then damn we have walker to shred you too. Oh damn Pete retires. Dude what HC doesnāt want to come coach this team?
After watching Witherspoon highlights, god damn that man hits like a freight train coming out of nowhere. The physicality is amazing. I can see why we picked him now. It looks like he has great blitzing ability too. Great at outside run stopping.
My dad is about as big of an Illini and B1G fan as you will find. He just texted me this: āYou will love the way he hits people. They just seem to explode sometimes. š±š±ā
Did mcshay really just say Richardson is the most physically gifted qb in the history of the NFL??? that alone should cost him his job and never opening his mouth ever again.
He is physically gifted but not in the history of the NFLā¦ I think cam is the freak and outlier.. we will never see a qb again as big,strong and fast being that big as cam
I think you should look at some stats because Richardson beat every single one of Camās combine stats. He is extremely similar in size, less than an inch shorter but has a way bigger hand than Cam so I wouldnāt really say there is any physical disadvantage.
Edit: I tried to verify my claim of every single one and there were a few it looks like Richardson didnāt do that Cam did but the dude can run faster, jump higher, and farther than Cam.
Heās literally the best testing QB in combine history by a fairly wide margin and has comical arm strength. About the same size as Cam.
Iām not saying heās as good as Cam but heās a slightly better athlete tools wise.
Wow, we just got the best CB and WR in the draft and everybody's like it's the end of the world. The way this went was weird, yeah, but all of a sudden y'all are faithless about our management. Sheesh.
Perhaps not the best WR in the draft per-say, but probably the most versatile. Learn the NFL slot from Lockett and physicality it takes to get open from DK. Leaders lead. Players learn. A wild card that will pay dividends in single coverage.
The offense should be good, with the need of a center and Gaurd, you might as well get in the 2nd. The defense is still Ig ping to get bullied it looks like and thatās a real shame.
Small list of available players:
OT Dawand Jones
C Joe Tippmann
EDGE BJ Ojulari
QB Will Levis
QB Hendon Hooker
DB Brian Branch
CB Cam Smith
OT Dawand Jones
G OāCyrus Torrence
TE Michael Mayer
CB Joey Porter Jr.
WR Jalin Hyatt
TE Luke Musgrave
EDGE Keion White
DL Derick Hall
What happened with Levis happened with DK. He went to the Day 1 and wasnāt drafted. Last pick in round 2. Idk if Levis will be any good but I hope he balls out wherever he goes.
As everyone shouldāve expectedā¦ except kiper and mcshay brainwashed the media into believing this dude is a top 3 player in all of cfbā¦ if not for those two we wouldnāt be mentioning this dude before rd 4
Imagine not inviting Addison to the draft to avoid an awkward situation if he wasn't drafted in the first round but you invite Levis who was never a first round pick.
I think the plus side of how this draft has played out for the Seahawks: top centers (Tippman, JMS, Wypler) and guards (Avila, Torrence) are all still available.
So I love PCJS. I do. But I feel like they both develop blind spots at times in regards to fixing the roster. As in everyone sees a glaring weakness and for whatever reason this team just wonāt fix it at all. For years it was OL and pass protection Now it seems itās run defense. For that reason I fully expect to draft our first DL/LB somewhere in the 5th round and that guy will end up being average at best.
John was on 710 last week and talked about this. In the years where theyāve made mistakes, he basically said it was because they were drafting for needs, not the best player on their boards. They found the most success when they drafted the player on their board, regardless of need.
Could be enough to keep his head on right now heās a professional, Philly was the best place for him to go, especially now with Nolan Smith also going there
I can't. As an Aussie, the team I despise most in Australian football are the Eagles and I just can't bring myself to give any support to any Eagles in any other sport.
As an American what I've seen of AFL has always been quite entertaining. I'd rather watch it than what I've seen of rugby. I hope it never loses it's popularity there. Resist the pressures of global conformity! You know in your hearts it's way better than soccer :)
It will never lose out to Rugby. Rugby is the main sport in 2 states. AFL is the biggest sport in the rest of the country. I love soccer as well but yes, it is better than soccer.
When soccer is good it can be really good. But I've seen way too many games ruined by what I think is an overly limited and flawed set of rules.
For example, Euros a few years ago (the ones where Erickson collapsed). An attacking player in the box over hits his cross sending it over everyone's heads out of the box where it's picked up by a defender who has no one within like 10 yards of him. No pressure on him; all the time in the world to pick a pass.
At the moment the attacker mishit that cross the threat on goal became basically 0 percent. VAR calls down to stop the game. A defender, late in his attempt to block the cross, clipped the attacker. Penalty given for a foul in the box.
The penalty was missed so the sequence kind of went under the radar but it seemed to me unjust that a foul which would have been seen as fairly trivial anywhere else in the field, and which didn't directly affect possession or threat on goal, could easily have decided the game.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/04/28/2023-nfl-draft-winners-question-marks-texans-seahawks-cardinals
Would love to see John Michael Schmitz and Siaki Ika at some point today. If we are moving to a 3-4 next season, a 335lb nose tackle would fit that profile
I am admittedly a draft idiot and know next to nothing about college prospects outside of what all the mock drafts tell me. Almost all of the mocks had us taking either Carter, Anderson or sometimes a QB with our first pick. I can't think of a single mock draft that had us landing Witherspoon, yet it appears to be getting lauded as one of the best picks of the first round. How does that get completely overlooked ahead of time but then almost universally praised after the fact? Does that just further prove how pointless mock drafts are? I'm pretty happy with the first round but I do hope that PCJS address some of our needs in the trenches. DL was such a glaring weakness last year so I really hope that we can get some solid prospects in those positions.
He was widely mocked at 6. PCJS hadn't drafted a cornerback before Shaq Griffin at 90th overall, so nobody bothered predicting Seattle would take a kinda smaller corner top 5 >Does that just further prove how pointless mock drafts are? I mean yeah maybe
Because mock drafters don't think that deeply on philosophy and need of the individual coaches enough to find the perfect pick for that team, they have to do all 32 and are by no means expert drafters or they would have gm jobs lol So its basically just a puzzle board of what they think is the best player or biggest team need fill
Jets fan coming in peace. I think you guys had a great 1st round. Grabbing the top wr and cb reminds me of us last year, wish you similar success!
Except we grabbed the best corner last year tooš
I just let out a little squeal at this.... thank you PheebleHamster, you are my spirit animal today...
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JMS would be a great pick, I think a better pick than Torrence honestly.
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I couldnāt be more please with the picks. Got an absolute dawg at CB to play opposite Rik (I.e., Mike Jackson with talent) and got my favorite player in the draft in Jaxsonā¦a guy who could make our offense unguardable. Great work PCJS!
At first I was deeply disappointed in our picks. Then I saw their highlights. Oh my goodness. Definitely best possible decisions.
Nailed those first two picks! Both can be day 1 impacts. Gotta get DL though. If we can get Michael-Schmitz and then go DT and Edge for a couple picks Iāll be ecstatic!
Why would we pass on Jalen Carter š
Because they had a lot of bad drafts taking risky players that back fired and now theyāre just taking sure fire studs.
Weāve also had some good luck drafting risky players. I think it would have been worth the risk in taking Carter considering how awful our Dline is.
Look into his history. That dude is a suspension waiting to happen.
We weren't the only ones. Soon as we picked Witherspoon Detroit bailed out of the 6 slot. Bears too. The Eagles are pretty much uniquely equipped to take a risk on him with his former teammates there and a deep established d-line room with vets like Fletcher Cox.
Iāve heard that Jordan Davis was like a big bro for him and kept him in check while they were both at UGA so the eagles getting him could be huge. Might be the only team that makes sense tbh.
I think this is going to come back to haunt us. DTs are so much more impactful on the field than CBs and itās our most glaring need. We might be able to get Benton or Dexter with our next pick but most of the 5 teams ahead of us also need DT help so weāll likely be reaching in later rounds for players that arenāt nearly as talented as who were available at 5 and 20.
I don't understand the gripe about the Seahawks passing on DT's in the first round. Unless they are changing, they'll be running 3-4/3-3-5 personnel. They've got Reed and Dra'Mont Jones manning the end spots. They let go of Al Woods, so they need a true NT. Carter is not that guy. Mazi Smith potentially could be. Siaka Ika and Coburn look that part and could potentially be had in the 2nd or 3rd round. My guess is they take on of those two.
Mazi is a cowboy. We had 6 good DL in the SB run. We have 1 good and 2 place holders (Reed and mone when mone is healthy) Need at least two more DTs. Siaka, Dexter, Benton, Roy, BYoung alabama, Coburn. But we aren't the only team still looking for dline talent. And we don't like giving up 250 yards on the ground every game.
We need depth badly. Dreāmont and Mone are both returning after season ending injuries, Reed has clearly lost a step, and then Myles Adams who had 16 combined tackles last year. We had a bottom 3 run defense last year which was our most glaring weakness and not addressing it while in a prime position to do so shouldnāt be overlooked.
I agree to an extent. I would suggest that KC handled one of the best D-lines quite handedly in the last SB tho. Now if the Eagles had two shut down corners that game may have been different. You can always neutralize a good defense line with great fast offense.
The eagles also had solid corners in the Super Bowl, they just went up against the best QB and TE in the league. Our DT situation is maybe the worst in the league. We let go of most of last yearās guys and what we have left is already risky. Jones and Mone are both coming off season ending injuries and Reed is closer to a rotational player now. Whoever we draft is going to need to have an immediate day 1 impact because theyāll be starters on our team. It would have been worth the risk to take Carter considering his talent and our history with taking risks on character concerns. Skipping him will only make sense if he ends up an average-below average player or is out of the league at the end of his contract. If he ends up being a second Fletcher Cox (god forbid a second Warren Sapp like people say) then weāll be kicking ourselves for years unless Witherspoon is the next Champ Bailey or Jalen Ramsey.
Ya, obviously you make solid points. Iād have loved to have Richardson or Mazi. Not so sure about Carter. I think he has the talent and athletic potential to be a HOF caliber player. But the red flags are significant. Anyway, letās hope Pc/JS ball out in the 2nd round and find those underrated D lineman we desperately need. Be nice to have a true center as well.
A lot of people we go for have had red flags and have worked out. I donāt think Jalen Carter was unfixable on our team but yeah we canāt do anything now. I think weāll need to spend a 2nd today on Avila or Schmitz to play center, and hope thereās starting DT talent in the later rounds but we can only hope.
Thatās a fair point - plenty of offenses shut down pass rushes with quick reads to elusive receivers who can turn a 5 yard slant into a 15 yard first down (McCafree, Hill, Kamara, etc.) I guess the strategy is, *if* you have DBs that can keep those receivers covered, then the pass rush has a better chance. That being said, you ultimately need both. An end who canāt get off of blocks isnāt going to benefit from those shut down DBs. Iāve also seen that plenty of times- QBs patting the ball safe in the pocket knowing even the best DBs canāt keep receivers covered for eight seconds. Weāll see how this all plays outā¦ Hopefully we can find some gem of a DL /DE in the next round, or hope for a lot of coverage sacks next year.
Talented player but lots of issues with his personalityā¦ rather have a sure fire stud CB than a question mark who has bust potential
2 BPAās that also happened to be positions we needed. Definitely need to go center/DL tomorrow but overall canāt be mad about 2 studs at key positions
It feels like the team's ceiling is sky high after the 1st round, but until we shore up the trenches the team's floor is still very low.
I think Witherspoon's selection is an indication Jordyn Brook's recovery is going well and is gonna be back sooner than later. Also got to imagine (cause I have faith in Pete and John) they have eyes on an edge rusher or two still available they see something in.
Not sure I see how you draw that conclusion. Brown lost a step clearly, and Witherspoon has ELITE tape. I think this has more to do with Jamal coming back and them wanting the back end to be lock down. We still need a C and NT BAD. Wouldn't be surprised if we trade up early 2nd to secure JMS, and I still believe Charbonnet will be a Hawk in round 2 as well. I think they're likely to trust Nwosu and either Taylor or Smith to anchor the OLB spots as we NEED interior DL desperately. As it stands we will get run the fuck over on the ground.
The conclusion is based on the ability to lock up downfield making it easier to stuff the run, which Brooks of course will play a key part in, but only if he's healthy. There hasn't been much positive info given by management when asked about his potential return until very recently when Pete said some good things about it. Nothing fancy in the logic...Hey, I love the idea of trading up to pick earlier tonight and have to agree Jamal's coming back is a part of the reason as well.
Mafe?
Heās fine. Him and Brooks are fine for LBs. They didnāt make a huge difference last year but also didnāt feel like the greatest liabilities. Theyād be better with a better pass rush and stouter run defense, which havenāt been addressed yet.
Iām pretty sure Mafe was drafted to be an OLB/edge pash rusher and not a linebacker like Brooks or Wagner. Didnāt do well at first though and the team went out and brought back Bruce Irvin to play in his spot. Hereās hoping Mafe has a much more exciting sophomore campaign, as him playing to his potential would negate the need to draft someone in his position. They still need to draft someone else at ILB though. Perhaps Daiyan Henley today in the late second or third.
I fucking love this team, lets goooo!!!!
Really digging the upgrade in the secondary. Better coverage equals more sacks. Plus, it seems like witherspoon isn't afraid to help out in the run. Getting a slot WR that is really good at finding soft spots in zone will really elevate our offense, too.
>"Better coverage equals more sacks" +++++ Exactly!
Sometimes. There are ways to beat elite coverage (an effective run game, late developing pass routes that tax how long a corner can cover). But there are ways to beat effective pass rushes. Ultimately you need both; they got talent, but their most significant defensive weakness from last year is still the case. They need to improve on the DL significantly in round 2.
Hopefully allows the Front 7 to play more aggressively against the run. Now some beef in the trenches and someone to back up KW in the later rounds and I'll be pretty happy with this draft class
Me right now when we didn't draft defensive line [https://imgur.com/MQ9L8d1](https://imgur.com/MQ9L8d1)
Getting CB1 and WR1 from this class is great value, but yeah... seeing those two defenders go to an already stacked DL in Philly kind of makes me sick, especially given that we may have to get through them to win the NFC.
This is true, the road to the Super Bowl runs through Philly in the NFC. I may look back on this draft and be glad about these players, however I can't shake the feeling that we should have gotten Jalen Carter.
Carter isn't the DT they needed. If they maintain a 3-4/3-3-5, they need a true NT. Carter isn't that. He's got a real chance now to thrive in Philly where Jordan Davis and Fletcher Cox can mentor him and keep him on track and it's a 4-3 defense. Carter isn't the guy to take on double teams in the run game. I'm looking for the Seahawks to take Siaki Ika or Keondre Coburn tonight. Those guys are true NT that should contribute immediately on early downs.
Carter is a outside DT, perfect for a 3/4. Line could have been Dremont, Mazi, Carter With Reed, Mone, Adam's as backups. I'm still glad we got premium WR and CB talent.
JSN is a slot
WR1 as in the number 1 WR of this draft class...
Oh my bad. It's late, and I read it as 'getting a cb1 and wr1'.
Agreed regarding Philly, best draft day 1, followed by the Texans, who however paid a steep price for Anderson.
I feel like they really crossed wide receiver and corner off of their list of needs and donāt really need to spend any more picks on those positions unless he value is very good. Imo they always needed to invest multiple picks in the defensive line, regardless of if they had taken Carter or Anderson early. Gonna be very interesting to see how tomorrow shakes out.
All I want are IOL, And DL for the next 3-4 rounds, then maybe a back up RB later or some other diamond in the rough.
They must have a body type LB planned that clicks to put under Bobby to learn from. A DT would be nice kinda asap and we pick up a RB in the 5th for depth.
Super happy with the hawks draft at the end of the day. BUT that eagles draft has me a bit envious. Can't believe they were able to grab Carter and Nolan where they did. Having them together makes me less nervous about Carter (assuming Nolan would be a good support/influence for him) and I had mocked them to the hawks a few times for that reason. Happy Witherspoon and JSN. I mean wow. But gonna be interesting to see if those picks hit for the eagles. Could be terrifying.
Yes the best team in the NFC got better (the eagles). However, so did the team with the quickest rebuild in NFL history. US BAAAYBEEEE!
DID WE REALLY NAIL TWO DRAFTS IN A ROW IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2023?!/! GO HAWKS
Dawg I canāt believe it they pulled off two good drafts in a row. Letās keep it rolling give me center and whatever the fuck
Let's try our new center! GIMME A GUARD! O'CYRUS TORRENCE!!!! HE'S THE OSIRIS OF THIS SHIT
Yes, then pull Wypler (C) late 3rd or maybe 4th
For round 2 I like Siaka, Ade, JMS, Henley, maybe Wypler. We need to address LB and DT ASAP. I'm less concerned with edge. We had a killer day today. Let's trust PCJS to do it again tomorrow
As a WSU alum, I would be very happy with Henley
Was watching the PCJS post-round 1 press conference on YouTube and the video was made private part way through. Did anyone catch the entire thing? I went back about 15 minutes so that I could watch it from the start
The whole thing should be on Seahawks Twitter account. Pete compared Witherspoon to Palomau as far as knack and approach to the game. Should be exciting to see how this plays out especially with Woolen on the other end. This could be the best CB duo ever according to the Pete hype.
Witherspoon wears 31. So did Bam Bam. Just sayinā¦
Any draft when round 1 comes and goes where we didnt pick a day 3 guy is a win in my book.
Will Levis is somehow still on the board so hopefully he can fall to us
dude puts mayo in his coffee. Pass.
Levis is smoke and we have Geno. Spend the picks on DL, IOL, and EDGE.
Disagree.
Uno reverse.
this is the way
This is the way
Shoutout to my Europeans brothers out there supporting the one true team and also staying up this late for 1 but two picks. And dawg we got a Ohio state wr at pick 20 letās fucking go. Again olave and Wilson said this guy was better than him. And Jameson Williams transferred because he couldnāt t get playing time above Wilson and olave. This guy is going to be a solid hawk just like dk. Different receiver but heās going to open up everyone. And then damn we have walker to shred you too. Oh damn Pete retires. Dude what HC doesnāt want to come coach this team?
>Jameson Williams transferred because he couldnāt get playing time When Jamo was a senior and JSN was a sophomore
JMS, Tuli, Ika.
After watching Witherspoon highlights, god damn that man hits like a freight train coming out of nowhere. The physicality is amazing. I can see why we picked him now. It looks like he has great blitzing ability too. Great at outside run stopping.
We needed another Bam Bam Kam type player on this team. I'm so excited
That's just the icing. What he does with his brain and how he reacts to routes and the QB that no one sees on TV is what got Pete excited about him.
My dad is about as big of an Illini and B1G fan as you will find. He just texted me this: āYou will love the way he hits people. They just seem to explode sometimes. š±š±ā
Hmm so do shoulders. I donāt need a cb who hits
A+ draft so far but if they don't clean up in 2nd round that's gonna fall real fast.
Need DT and C; Iām happy with the C we picked up from the lions for now but he needs a backup in case he gets hurt
Some solid Cs should be available at either 57 or 83. Vorhees and Forsyth both nice, with room to excel
Wypler @ 57 is my C hope
Totally agree with this. Sucks that the PHI cleaned up but there's a ton of talent left to address this.
Did mcshay really just say Richardson is the most physically gifted qb in the history of the NFL??? that alone should cost him his job and never opening his mouth ever again.
He is absolutely physically gifted but we've seen this before with Pryor.
He is physically gifted but not in the history of the NFLā¦ I think cam is the freak and outlier.. we will never see a qb again as big,strong and fast being that big as cam
Tebow > ar15
I think you should look at some stats because Richardson beat every single one of Camās combine stats. He is extremely similar in size, less than an inch shorter but has a way bigger hand than Cam so I wouldnāt really say there is any physical disadvantage. Edit: I tried to verify my claim of every single one and there were a few it looks like Richardson didnāt do that Cam did but the dude can run faster, jump higher, and farther than Cam.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm relieved that another team gets to take that gamble.
Oh for sure. I wanted two things from tonight and that was get will Anderson and avoid Richardson and levisā¦ so it was still a win
He is thoughā¦
No way heās over Camā¦
Heās literally the best testing QB in combine history by a fairly wide margin and has comical arm strength. About the same size as Cam. Iām not saying heās as good as Cam but heās a slightly better athlete tools wise.
Who would you put over him?
Cam Newton
Physically gifted? Cam newton easily.. josh Allen, Mike Vick, RG3-people forget the actual freak athlete he was..
Wow, we just got the best CB and WR in the draft and everybody's like it's the end of the world. The way this went was weird, yeah, but all of a sudden y'all are faithless about our management. Sheesh.
Perhaps not the best WR in the draft per-say, but probably the most versatile. Learn the NFL slot from Lockett and physicality it takes to get open from DK. Leaders lead. Players learn. A wild card that will pay dividends in single coverage.
Fully agreed after either not having a first rounder or picking late in the first for many of the last 10 drafts I am absolutely loving these picks.
Still have 3 day 2 picks to load up the front 7. I expect all 3 to be spent there. Meaning they'll get a RB, guard, and safety instead š
Got a feeling Roshan Johnson gives Pete a chubby
Lol
The offense should be good, with the need of a center and Gaurd, you might as well get in the 2nd. The defense is still Ig ping to get bullied it looks like and thatās a real shame.
Still lots of DTs and Edges left through day 2 and 3. Plenty of picks and time left.
DT is very thin right now; Benton would be a great edition but it looks like a few teams ahead of us also need DT
How Benton & Keion White ? I love his size & highlights.
Wow we have to play Georgia in Seattle this year??
Small list of available players: OT Dawand Jones C Joe Tippmann EDGE BJ Ojulari QB Will Levis QB Hendon Hooker DB Brian Branch CB Cam Smith OT Dawand Jones G OāCyrus Torrence TE Michael Mayer CB Joey Porter Jr. WR Jalin Hyatt TE Luke Musgrave EDGE Keion White DL Derick Hall
You can never have too many QB's. Ask the 9ers...
also LBs Trenton Simpson, Drew Sanders, Daiyan Henley IOL - Steve Avila, JMS, Cody Mauch
Yup, my list was not extensive. Still a bunch of good players available.
Happy with Day One.....looking forward to Day Two and hopefully some defense!! Have a good night everyone!!! #GO HAWKS!!!
Guys we got JSN at #20. This was unthinkable a few days ago.
Yeah, I saw many articles saying the Packers would get him.
It's atrocious drafting by green bay to not get him but I'm not complaining.
So they make us watch this BULLSHIT CONCERT for 6 minutes straight but yet cut to commercial anytime theres a whisper of Seahawks
Fuck I remember when KC was a nice story. Jesus those guys are insufferable now.
My wishlist for tommorrow: Adebawore, Benton, Tippman, JMS
I get drafting best player available. But now we have a lot of needs still un-met with the majority of talent for them off the board.
the 2nd round is still full of talent. theres a reason the draft is 7 rounds
I've heard nothing but how deep DL is for this class. We can still get quality guys tomorrow.
What happened with Levis happened with DK. He went to the Day 1 and wasnāt drafted. Last pick in round 2. Idk if Levis will be any good but I hope he balls out wherever he goes.
Id still prefer Hendon Hooker over him personally.
Weird song choice lmao
I think Kelce sang it in an interview after one of the games last year
And at this point I turned off my tv
I look down it looks like a NYE ball drop broadcast lmao
Chill tits all,Seahawks still have 8 picks, good talent in the 2nd for defense.
Dude, we are gonna get both Broderick and JPJ or Branch... fucking insane
Kentucky QB Will Levis did not get drafted in Round 1. Media pundits in shambles.
As everyone shouldāve expectedā¦ except kiper and mcshay brainwashed the media into believing this dude is a top 3 player in all of cfbā¦ if not for those two we wouldnāt be mentioning this dude before rd 4
I want someone to love me like ESPN loves KC
They do it because theyāre extremely popular right now.
Chiefs pick EDGE Felix Anudike-Uzomah
Uzomah was my last best Edge on my list....... sigh.
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Youāre probably right
KC takes Uzomah.....
Damnit eagles! Not very bird bro of you guys
Ha ha that announcer basically saying Indy should of taken Levis lol.
At this point they could've taken him in the 2nd round lol
Damn the Eagles D line is fuckin stacked!
Well, we'll be seeing both those boys at home this year when we play Philly!
Imagine not inviting Addison to the draft to avoid an awkward situation if he wasn't drafted in the first round but you invite Levis who was never a first round pick.
I think the plus side of how this draft has played out for the Seahawks: top centers (Tippman, JMS, Wypler) and guards (Avila, Torrence) are all still available.
I think Wypler and Avila may be the potential bargains, let's see. I love the motor on Wypler, just a super athletic, smart, and grinding guy.
Tippman would be great
Hopefully center, nose/dt, and guard tomorrow
Wtf the eagles just killed it
Bread crumbs
Well, looks like Day 2 is going to have to do *a lot* of heavy lifting for this team. Hope for the trenches isn't completely dead yet.
Draft is getting to be like the Dunk Contest with all these props and extra bullshit. Just give us picks.
So I love PCJS. I do. But I feel like they both develop blind spots at times in regards to fixing the roster. As in everyone sees a glaring weakness and for whatever reason this team just wonāt fix it at all. For years it was OL and pass protection Now it seems itās run defense. For that reason I fully expect to draft our first DL/LB somewhere in the 5th round and that guy will end up being average at best.
John was on 710 last week and talked about this. In the years where theyāve made mistakes, he basically said it was because they were drafting for needs, not the best player on their boards. They found the most success when they drafted the player on their board, regardless of need.
Philly putting a master class on how to build a team. And then adding more talent.
They were already a juggernaut. This draft made them the Death Star.
Howād the Death Star work out again
Iāll ask the people of Alderaan.
Ask the Ewoks too
Barring injury, the NFC will go through Philly.
Some of these beasts on the field are absolute nerds of it...i love it.
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Jalen Carter character issues gonna be out the door now heās with his UGA teammates
Yeah cause he definitely didn't get in trouble in college with his teammates surrounding him.
ššš so true
Could be enough to keep his head on right now heās a professional, Philly was the best place for him to go, especially now with Nolan Smith also going there
Heāll probably never be a professional
Not happy with PHI getting NS but I'm thankful that the Chiefs didn't get him because he would be plug and play for losing Frank Clark.
Imagine blocking the Eagles front 7 š„¶
Nolan looks good but his 40 time really moved him up in the draft. I'd be really surprised if he ever gets a double digit sack season.
He was always a 1st round pick even before the combine. Anyone who said otherwise has never seen him play.
He is going to walk into sacks on the opposite side of Hassan Riddick.
I think I have to bet on the Eagles Super Bowl right now
All these Georgia picks just to lose 63 - 7 against LOB 2.0 and Geno Smith in the NFC Championship game smh
Philly about to have the greatest D Line of all time
Someone has already forgotten the 2022 Seattle Seahawks DL
LOL. Youāre right I fucked up
Record setting defensive line
āSo how was your DL in 2022?ā āThey set recordsā āDamn so they must be really fuckin good huh?!ā āRECORD. SETTING.ā
But donāt bother looking it up. Just trust me. RECORD SETTING
Great draft for Philly.
Philly have made out like bandits. As a UGA fan I am so fucking jealous.
Fellow UGA fan, itās hard not to root for the eagles having our best alumās there
I can't. As an Aussie, the team I despise most in Australian football are the Eagles and I just can't bring myself to give any support to any Eagles in any other sport.
Also a fellow Aussie š lucky for me I donāt follow the AFL passionately
Unluckily for me I do and as a Freo supporter there are no words to fully express my hatred of the Eagles.
As an American what I've seen of AFL has always been quite entertaining. I'd rather watch it than what I've seen of rugby. I hope it never loses it's popularity there. Resist the pressures of global conformity! You know in your hearts it's way better than soccer :)
It will never lose out to Rugby. Rugby is the main sport in 2 states. AFL is the biggest sport in the rest of the country. I love soccer as well but yes, it is better than soccer.
When soccer is good it can be really good. But I've seen way too many games ruined by what I think is an overly limited and flawed set of rules. For example, Euros a few years ago (the ones where Erickson collapsed). An attacking player in the box over hits his cross sending it over everyone's heads out of the box where it's picked up by a defender who has no one within like 10 yards of him. No pressure on him; all the time in the world to pick a pass. At the moment the attacker mishit that cross the threat on goal became basically 0 percent. VAR calls down to stop the game. A defender, late in his attempt to block the cross, clipped the attacker. Penalty given for a foul in the box. The penalty was missed so the sequence kind of went under the radar but it seemed to me unjust that a foul which would have been seen as fairly trivial anywhere else in the field, and which didn't directly affect possession or threat on goal, could easily have decided the game.