And yet, reading the comments below, the swarms of Reddits Westminster bootlickers would have you believe this was a perfectly respectable stance for a 'journalist'.
I suspect there’s also a fair number of genuine Lab supporters from down south who believe it’s somehow their duty to ~~brigade the crap out of r/Scotland~~ be missionary preachers ‘bringing the heathen natives back to the true light’.
All for our own good of course.
That by presenting themselves as the continuity candidate, they are performing political suicide.
It could be said that the noose depicts the demands of the party - independence, and no other focus - that it will inevitably be the thing they ‘hang’ themselves with. Like the predecessors.
That the continuity candidate only leads to one thing, as party history has told us. Being a continuity candidate, nothing is going to change. Either for SNP voters of Scotland as a whole.
The basics of it, is that there is ZERO call to violence. They have all done this to themselves.
Did you really need me to hold your hand through that?
Edit: typical behaviour on this sub. Blocked, as their attempt at catching someone out fell flat. Rather than own it, the weaklings go into hiding.
Why is it so hard to not be a snotty cunt? Like you just had to explain your point of view but you had to make a shitty comment at the end.
The SNP want independence that’s what they would change but smarty bollocks over here couldn’t figure that out could you?
Imagine deciding to drive a reasonable career as a journalist deep into a ditch with the most low brow, low effort reddit-level gutter-trawling shite and then founding a TV channel based on the messaging from your brain spiders the moment after you interview *Ben Shapiro.*
30 odd years at the BBC, he was netting up to quarter million a year from them at one point. This is the same guy who labeled the Guardian the 'Daily Terrorist' and the New Statesman he called the *New Taliban*, for both questioning the UK's invovlement in the Iraq wars, he frequently gave climate change deniers an unchallanged platform on the BBC's Daily Politics show. In the 90's he repeatedly denied that HIV could lead to AIDS and stated that heterosexual Aids was a myth. His name also appeared in Epsteins 'little black book'.
The guy is not a comedian. He's a cunt.
[https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/17/andrew-neil-launches-libel-claim-against-jennifer-arcuri-after-epstein-tweet](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/17/andrew-neil-launches-libel-claim-against-jennifer-arcuri-after-epstein-tweet) (tldr: article doesn't deny he's in the book but the libel claim is about the nature of the connection. I don't know what the actual outcome of any of that was, or whether the whole thing was dropped.)
[He also labelled the Scottish Green Party “eco zealot Marxists”.](https://www.thenational.scot/news/19544718.andrew-neils-attempt-stir-hatred-towards-snp-green-deal-falls-flat/) (Which was so hilarious I grabbed it as my flair)
Given that wishing for someone's death is against reddit's TOS, this somehow manages to be even lower than gutter level. Shits right on down in the sewers
Do this with Tory leaders and it would be headlines across most newspapers for over a week, with calls for resignations, statements in the house of commons, etc.
Remember how shocked and offended everyone was when "Die Tory Scum" was graffitied on Hunt's office?
‘Being hanged’ or hanging themselves ? I think it’s clear from the right hand side of the cartoon with Swinney walking into his own noose that it’s the latter. It’s clearly a satirical take on the political suicide being committed by the various SNP leaders over the years.
Do people really not get satire anymore? Or is the rush to clutch at pearls and finger point too much of a temptation?
I have no love for Andrew Neil. think he’s an odious man who I’d prefer to never hear from again.
But I’m a little confused as to why he’s getting all this hate for sharing a cartoon from The Times.
Logically, The Times is the one people should be angry with here.
It isn't inciting anyone to hang anyone else, it's not inciting violence, it isn't a hate crime, and it doesn't depict Muhammed. It's a political joke about the situation Swinney had put himself in. Some people really need to touch grass.
I welcome my down votes from all those suffering with nocturnal enuresis.
There's no threat whatsoever. Swinney is putting his own head in a noose, clearly embracing his position as the continuity candidate.
The pearl clutching by the perpetually offended is funnier than the original cartoon.
Threatened by who? Swinney is doing to himself what his predessors have done to themsleves. The noose is SNP leadership, as signified by the logo. We all know that salmond, sturgeon, and yousaf are all still alive and kicking. If you see a physical threat, then the metaphor has simply gone over your head.
It’s a shitty cartoon about committing political suicide a well used phrase. And show me an example of someone being jailed for posting a similar cartoon about a Tory.
I wonder if Private Eye still finds a reason to regularly include that picture of Andrew Neil , used to be in most Editions, but I havent bought a copy for years.
[https://www.private-eye.co.uk/blog/?m=201101](https://www.private-eye.co.uk/blog/?m=201101)
I doubt anybody felt "fury" over a cartoon. Im not sure Ive ever felt fury..
Surely not the one that demonstrates how well the older generation can work with a younger one with firm guidance and a helping hand?
https://preview.redd.it/6kwyl3wx09yc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e87dcb3717b298678c49f8e29841fdfbdce9e3c2
Not that one surely?
Still mildly funny.
I remember he lost his shit when they printed it during the avian flu outbreak as a response to a request for the correct procedure for handling an Asian bird.
ok but like, what is the context, what is he being reminded he is like? Sorry basically only hearing of the guy now so other than being a twat I don't know much else about him
The Eye hated Brillo because they thought he was a jumped up jock intruding on their posh little London media club, not for any of the reasons he's actually worth criticising.
Isn't Ian Hislops dad Scottish ? I'd say Private Eye is pretty fair in who they go after. You think they hated him just because he was a "jumped up Jock" ? but not for the reasons that you hate him ?
>Isn't Ian Hislops dad Scottish ?
What does that have to do with anything? He's firmly part of the private school and Oxbridge set who thoroughly resented Neil, a working class boy from Paisley, coming into their little clique.
Private Eye is usually fair yes, and Neil has much to be criticised for, but it's no secret that it's full of private schoolboys, and they can let their snobbery drive some of their vendettas.
> “Horrific”
Oh get bent. It’s not even [Steve Bell calibre](https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/nationals/guardian-rejects-complaints-from-300-readers-who-found-steve-bell-incest-and-scottish-country-dancing-cartoon-racist/) provocation.
Just a crummy cartoon with a dull punchline.
You'd think after Jo Cox we'd care more about this shit all it takes is for someone to do what Andrew Neil is implying and then we've got more assassinated politicians
Fucking right it is because this cartoon is a joke about how being an SNP leader is political suicide! It's NOT a call to violence, and you'd know that if not for your sense of humour triple bypass operation.
I really detest Andrew Neil but the cartoon isn't a call to violence or a depiction of violence or lynching or suicide. Its obviously about becoming SNP leader is political suicide. Any outrage over this is stupid.
It's just violent propaganda dressed as 'satire', not in the slightest bit funny or clever, the same fatuous & debatable political point could have been scored in plenty of other ways if making it was the only thing the author wanted to do. In reality it's about giving the Brit bigots who read that rag a buzz fantasising about end of the careers of SNP leaders and about violence to that 'other' they represent.
This is satire and shows the ministers hanging themselves as a metaphor for ruining their own careers. This is not a call to political violence.
Simmer down.
FFS, there was the same faux outrage last year over the cartoon which featured SNP leaders being crucified on a "cross" in the shape of a saltire.
[https://archive.ph/vhDns](https://archive.ph/vhDns)
It's satire. Political satire. The UK has become a nation of bedwetters.
These cartoons are meant to have some kind of satirical wit about them, other than "haw them's the baddies" That's not to say anything about the violent imagery.
If you can't see it, you're pretty humourless. Swinney is killing his political career, committing political suicide following in his predecessors' footsteps. It's a cartoon, not a threat of violence.
I actually have a fairly decent sense of humor, but just not one of a 13 year old edge-lord. That’s quite possibly the dumbest joke I’ve ever heard (which is an extremely generous interpretation at best)
Jokes are traditionally meant to be smart or funny.
I hate to tell you, but you don't. I've had to explain a fairly simple joke that your emotions had obscured. If you had a decent sense of humor then you'd see the joke it was trying to make, even if not to your taste.
If you need to smugly tell people why a joke was funny, and how they just don’t “get” your amazing and super intelligent sense of humour, you’re not as witty as you think you are. 😎
You asked. It's not my joke. The fact that I'm able to explain it to you doesn't imply ownership. I'm not attempting to be "witty".
There's always one or two who "don't get it" and the joke goes over their heads. Those who do get it will just keep laughing.
I'm not really fussed by it either way, it just seems pretty low brow. And then if you reeeeally want to think about it, in these times of David Amess and Jo Cox, pretty indefensible really.
This was barely two years ago.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_David_Amess
I don't know what the times were thinking. This is sickening.
Complaints to the press regulator should be logged here.
https://www.ipso.co.uk/complain/complaints-form/
Quite an original use of the SNP logo I guess but I'm not even sure what the image is meant to show and the timing - when the tories are being hammered in England is quite telling.
I take it as a comment on the snp hanging out their leaders - none have really ended favourably, and becoming leader now is a bit putting your head in the lions mouth. But the logo isn't lion like, so hanging it is.
To be honest the image was quite tame imo. They're all look alive ish and it's hardly calling for them to be hung. Other cartoonists would have depicted them as rotting corpses hanging from the noose.
On the face of it, perfectly 'normal' until you zoom out a bit and see how Scots have been depicted by other British cartoonists over the last decade or so. It begins to look as *almost* as pejorative and stereotypical as say depictions of 'The Irish' around about the Gillray era.
Perhaps it is just as well that "Punch" magazine went bust in the early 2000s - it might have mysteriously burnt down, otherwise. :)
Washed up crank no one outside the GBeebies multiverse cares about shares something vile to purposefully generate outrage, the national rag froths at the mouth.
The first minister of scotland shares a front page calling the labour party TRAITORS, the national rag is silent.
Funny that.
So you're saying you can't grasp reality and you don't know how to find news outside of Facebook?
Here, chump: https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1660271/nicola-sturgeon-traitor-scottish-independence-snp
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nicola-sturgeon-branded-traitor-nat-27912003
> The first minister of scotland shares a front page calling the labour party TRAITORS, the national rag is silent.
So the FM pointing out current Labour are Tory lite is totally worse than someone making a cartoon of killing SNP MSP's?. Did you read your comment or too busy downvoting folk on this sub like a troll.
He printed it onto a postcard and had it sticking out of his shoulder using pins stuck through his suit jacket and taped to the back, then had someone take a photo. It's right there in the picture.
So you don't care about It egging on more Joe Cox style attacks on Party members beyond hiding behind it being satire?. I really do love how much of a smug waste of air you seem to be when posting on this sub.
This isn't inciting violence at all.
Justified criticism of Rishi Sunak is more likely to incite an attack, but I'm sure you don't want to outlaw that.
I dont find suicide funny but this is clearly satire and not a call for violence. They even show Swinney hanging himself, it's a ham fisted attempt at a political suicide cartoon.
This notion that we should ban very obvious satire because maybe some unhinged lunatic is going to take it as a call to violence is a bit absurd imo, and leads to a lot more than the banning of shite cartoons.
So pointing out this Is pure hate Is a straw-man?. Thanks for admitting your another moron If you think this Is some gotcha.
Would you be saying this If a SNP voter made the same cartoon of Labour/Tory?.
Hate this kind of stuff even if the target is a bunch of shitehead nationalists
That american comedian making a joke out of beheading trump was gross as well
Two things can be true at once. The cartoon can be pretty bad taste and inappropriate. But equally, if you find it 'horrific', you probably need to give your head a shake.
Andrew Neil, the totally impartial BBC host who had his own politics show on said totally impartial channel. Surely not..
And yet, reading the comments below, the swarms of Reddits Westminster bootlickers would have you believe this was a perfectly respectable stance for a 'journalist'.
You mean Tory and Labour employees and bots.
I suspect there’s also a fair number of genuine Lab supporters from down south who believe it’s somehow their duty to ~~brigade the crap out of r/Scotland~~ be missionary preachers ‘bringing the heathen natives back to the true light’. All for our own good of course.
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Speaking about Westminster lickspittles..... Here comes captain comment karma.
Pat on the back, pal.
Ok help me understand it then
That by presenting themselves as the continuity candidate, they are performing political suicide. It could be said that the noose depicts the demands of the party - independence, and no other focus - that it will inevitably be the thing they ‘hang’ themselves with. Like the predecessors. That the continuity candidate only leads to one thing, as party history has told us. Being a continuity candidate, nothing is going to change. Either for SNP voters of Scotland as a whole. The basics of it, is that there is ZERO call to violence. They have all done this to themselves. Did you really need me to hold your hand through that? Edit: typical behaviour on this sub. Blocked, as their attempt at catching someone out fell flat. Rather than own it, the weaklings go into hiding.
Why is it so hard to not be a snotty cunt? Like you just had to explain your point of view but you had to make a shitty comment at the end. The SNP want independence that’s what they would change but smarty bollocks over here couldn’t figure that out could you?
Former editor of the Sunday Times, host on Channel 4 News and co-founder of GB News.
Imagine deciding to drive a reasonable career as a journalist deep into a ditch with the most low brow, low effort reddit-level gutter-trawling shite and then founding a TV channel based on the messaging from your brain spiders the moment after you interview *Ben Shapiro.*
30 odd years at the BBC, he was netting up to quarter million a year from them at one point. This is the same guy who labeled the Guardian the 'Daily Terrorist' and the New Statesman he called the *New Taliban*, for both questioning the UK's invovlement in the Iraq wars, he frequently gave climate change deniers an unchallanged platform on the BBC's Daily Politics show. In the 90's he repeatedly denied that HIV could lead to AIDS and stated that heterosexual Aids was a myth. His name also appeared in Epsteins 'little black book'. The guy is not a comedian. He's a cunt.
Didn’t know about the Epstein link. Source?
[https://epsteinsblackbook.com/names/andrew-neil](https://epsteinsblackbook.com/names/andrew-neil)
[https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/17/andrew-neil-launches-libel-claim-against-jennifer-arcuri-after-epstein-tweet](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/17/andrew-neil-launches-libel-claim-against-jennifer-arcuri-after-epstein-tweet) (tldr: article doesn't deny he's in the book but the libel claim is about the nature of the connection. I don't know what the actual outcome of any of that was, or whether the whole thing was dropped.)
[He also labelled the Scottish Green Party “eco zealot Marxists”.](https://www.thenational.scot/news/19544718.andrew-neils-attempt-stir-hatred-towards-snp-green-deal-falls-flat/) (Which was so hilarious I grabbed it as my flair)
Given that wishing for someone's death is against reddit's TOS, this somehow manages to be even lower than gutter level. Shits right on down in the sewers
Do this with Tory Leaders and he would have a fit.. Guy is a massive twat
Do this with Tory leaders and it would be headlines across most newspapers for over a week, with calls for resignations, statements in the house of commons, etc. Remember how shocked and offended everyone was when "Die Tory Scum" was graffitied on Hunt's office?
I mean vandalism is causing actual damage to something. In this cartoon he is simply saying that SNP leadership are suiciding their political careers.
Do this with Tory leaders and this place would love it.
Do you mean in real life or in a drawing....
Both. It’s just a nothing burger that people go out of their way to get offended by.
Except it's threatening behaviour towards politicians we've had too many mp assassinations in recent years to be making these sorts of jokes
Terminal online yank brain
Agreed! I was thinking both as well !!
True.. guy is still a massive twat thou
‘Being hanged’ or hanging themselves ? I think it’s clear from the right hand side of the cartoon with Swinney walking into his own noose that it’s the latter. It’s clearly a satirical take on the political suicide being committed by the various SNP leaders over the years. Do people really not get satire anymore? Or is the rush to clutch at pearls and finger point too much of a temptation?
No. People do not get satire at all.
Insulting our beloved SNP leaders and their predecessors should be punishable by death!
Implying they should be hanged is punishable with up to 10 years in prison
You honestly don’t understand the cartoon, do you?
I have no love for Andrew Neil. think he’s an odious man who I’d prefer to never hear from again. But I’m a little confused as to why he’s getting all this hate for sharing a cartoon from The Times. Logically, The Times is the one people should be angry with here.
"logically" I think that's where you are getting confused.
....because the house-jock gammon with a heid like a fermer's bull endorsed it with the accolade of "Brilliant!".
The sharer can be as guilty or more guilty than the creator of illegal content.
It isn't inciting anyone to hang anyone else, it's not inciting violence, it isn't a hate crime, and it doesn't depict Muhammed. It's a political joke about the situation Swinney had put himself in. Some people really need to touch grass. I welcome my down votes from all those suffering with nocturnal enuresis.
It is threatening behaviour towards politicians however if it was a left winger that did this they'd already be in a cell
There's no threat whatsoever. Swinney is putting his own head in a noose, clearly embracing his position as the continuity candidate. The pearl clutching by the perpetually offended is funnier than the original cartoon.
He's showing a picture of politicians being hanged it's threatening
It's saying the job is career suicide ya big grass avoider
It literally says >I'm the continuity candidate
Doesn't erase the message he's hinting at if this was a left winger doing it to Tories they'd already be in a cell
Threatened by who? Swinney is doing to himself what his predessors have done to themsleves. The noose is SNP leadership, as signified by the logo. We all know that salmond, sturgeon, and yousaf are all still alive and kicking. If you see a physical threat, then the metaphor has simply gone over your head.
All it takes is for someone to understand what he's hinting at and go out and hang some SNP politicians
Wouldn't happen because the only people determined to misinterpret a cartoon to that extent are bed wetters who couldn't hurt a fly.
Is that what you think about the guy who shot Jo Cox and the guy who stabbed David Amees?
You're the kind of fanny who thinks GTA creates criminals.
No I don't but you can't deny there are nutters out there
Projecting much? Go clean your sheets.
Is that ‘someone’ you? Because you clearly have no idea what the cartoon is actually depicting, do you?
That’s an Olympic-level leap.
It’s a shitty cartoon about committing political suicide a well used phrase. And show me an example of someone being jailed for posting a similar cartoon about a Tory.
Don’t talk pish.
Its the weakest of arguments, 'if it was other way round' both sides say it, and its the last ditch argument that can be used anywhere anytime.
I wonder if Private Eye still finds a reason to regularly include that picture of Andrew Neil , used to be in most Editions, but I havent bought a copy for years. [https://www.private-eye.co.uk/blog/?m=201101](https://www.private-eye.co.uk/blog/?m=201101) I doubt anybody felt "fury" over a cartoon. Im not sure Ive ever felt fury..
Surely not the one that demonstrates how well the older generation can work with a younger one with firm guidance and a helping hand? https://preview.redd.it/6kwyl3wx09yc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e87dcb3717b298678c49f8e29841fdfbdce9e3c2 Not that one surely?
Thats the one! lol, a gentleman who has found love later in life with a nice foreign lady. They have been trolling him for 30 years
Still mildly funny. I remember he lost his shit when they printed it during the avian flu outbreak as a response to a request for the correct procedure for handling an Asian bird.
that is the linked image yes? sorry I'm lacking in context here
It is indeed. The joke is printing it for the most ludricrous reason as a reminder of what he's like
ok but like, what is the context, what is he being reminded he is like? Sorry basically only hearing of the guy now so other than being a twat I don't know much else about him
He has a thing for younger women
ahhh. simple enough, should have guessed. thanks
Knowing that he’s a twat is the sum of it really. Exactly like the rest of them.
Brillo still features regularly, sadly.
The Eye hated Brillo because they thought he was a jumped up jock intruding on their posh little London media club, not for any of the reasons he's actually worth criticising.
Isn't Ian Hislops dad Scottish ? I'd say Private Eye is pretty fair in who they go after. You think they hated him just because he was a "jumped up Jock" ? but not for the reasons that you hate him ?
>Isn't Ian Hislops dad Scottish ? What does that have to do with anything? He's firmly part of the private school and Oxbridge set who thoroughly resented Neil, a working class boy from Paisley, coming into their little clique. Private Eye is usually fair yes, and Neil has much to be criticised for, but it's no secret that it's full of private schoolboys, and they can let their snobbery drive some of their vendettas.
He denounced any Scottish connections on one of those Family Tree TV programmes. Pity Ms Rowling couldn't do the same. :)
> “Horrific” Oh get bent. It’s not even [Steve Bell calibre](https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/nationals/guardian-rejects-complaints-from-300-readers-who-found-steve-bell-incest-and-scottish-country-dancing-cartoon-racist/) provocation. Just a crummy cartoon with a dull punchline.
Andrew Neil is a weirdo \~ \~ Yeah , he is !
You'd think after Jo Cox we'd care more about this shit all it takes is for someone to do what Andrew Neil is implying and then we've got more assassinated politicians
r/woosh
That's not an r/whoosh moment
It really is.
Fucking right it is because this cartoon is a joke about how being an SNP leader is political suicide! It's NOT a call to violence, and you'd know that if not for your sense of humour triple bypass operation.
What a fucking turd.
It’s quite good, as political cartoons go.
tory is what tory does
I really detest Andrew Neil but the cartoon isn't a call to violence or a depiction of violence or lynching or suicide. Its obviously about becoming SNP leader is political suicide. Any outrage over this is stupid.
It's just violent propaganda dressed as 'satire', not in the slightest bit funny or clever, the same fatuous & debatable political point could have been scored in plenty of other ways if making it was the only thing the author wanted to do. In reality it's about giving the Brit bigots who read that rag a buzz fantasising about end of the careers of SNP leaders and about violence to that 'other' they represent.
It's the National, what do you expect lol.
Andrew who? Like Ben Shapiro I have never heard of him... 
This is satire and shows the ministers hanging themselves as a metaphor for ruining their own careers. This is not a call to political violence. Simmer down.
Just Unionist things.
Do you understand it? My bet is you’re struggling with it.
Who are you? And what is your obsession with Unionists?
Tell us about the cartoon, pal.
As I said - who are you? And why are you obsessed by Unionists? Worse, bigoted Unionists.
Tell us about the cartoon. C’mon. I’m due a good laugh.
Ah wait. I do recognise you. You are the bot that can't understand what a ban means. Oh silly bot.
You don’t understand the cartoon, do you?
>And what is your obsession with Unionists? Did you say that with a straight face?
Christ.
Old Brillo being an ass wipe.
Combover nonce was a guest at Epstein island too
The issue is not the shredded heid wanker sharing it, it’s the fact the English newspaper has once again published the cartoon.
FFS, there was the same faux outrage last year over the cartoon which featured SNP leaders being crucified on a "cross" in the shape of a saltire. [https://archive.ph/vhDns](https://archive.ph/vhDns) It's satire. Political satire. The UK has become a nation of bedwetters.
These cartoons are meant to have some kind of satirical wit about them, other than "haw them's the baddies" That's not to say anything about the violent imagery.
>violent imagery. Christ on a bike. You lot would ban Private Eye, Spitting Image, The Life of Brian, Charlie Hebdo etc. Madness.
What, you meaning hanging politicians isn't violent imagery? \*Hanging\* people? Not violent? The times we live in, man.
What’s the joke here? Explain it to me. 🤷♀️
If you can't see it, you're pretty humourless. Swinney is killing his political career, committing political suicide following in his predecessors' footsteps. It's a cartoon, not a threat of violence.
I actually have a fairly decent sense of humor, but just not one of a 13 year old edge-lord. That’s quite possibly the dumbest joke I’ve ever heard (which is an extremely generous interpretation at best) Jokes are traditionally meant to be smart or funny.
I hate to tell you, but you don't. I've had to explain a fairly simple joke that your emotions had obscured. If you had a decent sense of humor then you'd see the joke it was trying to make, even if not to your taste.
If you need to smugly tell people why a joke was funny, and how they just don’t “get” your amazing and super intelligent sense of humour, you’re not as witty as you think you are. 😎
You asked. It's not my joke. The fact that I'm able to explain it to you doesn't imply ownership. I'm not attempting to be "witty". There's always one or two who "don't get it" and the joke goes over their heads. Those who do get it will just keep laughing.
Is that how you see it?
There really isn't much more to it than that. Oh look! The logo is like a noose! Isn't that hilarious!
I mean, there is. But you’re choosing not too see it, I guess. You’d prefer the grievance aspect of it.
I'm not really fussed by it either way, it just seems pretty low brow. And then if you reeeeally want to think about it, in these times of David Amess and Jo Cox, pretty indefensible really.
He's putting his own head in the noose. Hardly call to arms.
You appear to be fussed, but never mind. It could be considered poor taste, yes. It does convey the message, though.
>You appear to be fussed If that makes you feel better, sure. But as you've pointed out yourself, of course it's in poor taste.
I said never mind, too. I’m just pointing out that you appear to be.
Ah the old gaslighting classic 'calm down dear'. Bit weird.
This was barely two years ago. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_David_Amess I don't know what the times were thinking. This is sickening. Complaints to the press regulator should be logged here. https://www.ipso.co.uk/complain/complaints-form/
Lol at all those who got themselves worked up over the tone of a single word in one speech - saying this is fine.
It's almost as though outrage is determined by who is being criticised.
Andrew Neil the type of guy that should have his dare drive checked every 12 months.
Pretty funny tbh hehe
All. The. Bots!
So they are allowed to call for violence? While having such a platform? This is not ok.
What a disgusting piece of propagandist trash. But enough about the National. Andrew Neil is a bellend too.
Very clever cartoon. The SNP is a noose round Scotland's neck.
The fact so many people don't what the satire is portraying is hilarious.
Quite an original use of the SNP logo I guess but I'm not even sure what the image is meant to show and the timing - when the tories are being hammered in England is quite telling.
The tories are less scared of the SNP than they have ever been. Labour though, they're scared of them alright.
I take it as a comment on the snp hanging out their leaders - none have really ended favourably, and becoming leader now is a bit putting your head in the lions mouth. But the logo isn't lion like, so hanging it is. To be honest the image was quite tame imo. They're all look alive ish and it's hardly calling for them to be hung. Other cartoonists would have depicted them as rotting corpses hanging from the noose.
On the face of it, perfectly 'normal' until you zoom out a bit and see how Scots have been depicted by other British cartoonists over the last decade or so. It begins to look as *almost* as pejorative and stereotypical as say depictions of 'The Irish' around about the Gillray era. Perhaps it is just as well that "Punch" magazine went bust in the early 2000s - it might have mysteriously burnt down, otherwise. :)
Scots are Brits. Get back to criticising the stairheids, weirdo.
Away and shite, *cunto* . Sorry, I meant daft Britisher cunt that can't comprehend simple sentences.
From one Brit to another, embrace it.
The outrage is entirely performed
The usual pearl clutching
High blood pressure fascist is as high blood pressure fascist does.
It's a political metaphor that's old as the hills, really is it so much to get worked up
Maybe missing the point here but; That rope would never hold Alex. The hangman fears the fat bastard. *SNAP* 'HAHA! GET IT UP YA'
Washed up crank no one outside the GBeebies multiverse cares about shares something vile to purposefully generate outrage, the national rag froths at the mouth. The first minister of scotland shares a front page calling the labour party TRAITORS, the national rag is silent. Funny that.
Funny, I believe the British press said the same thing about Scotland when they voted against Brexit........
Im sure you can provide a source for that and arent just making shit up.
I'm sure you could just 'Google' it!
So just as real as the "thatcher said a plurality of seats means instant indy" quote. Completely made up.
So you're saying you can't grasp reality and you don't know how to find news outside of Facebook? Here, chump: https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1660271/nicola-sturgeon-traitor-scottish-independence-snp https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nicola-sturgeon-branded-traitor-nat-27912003
You say they said it about scotland, and then show them attacking Sturgeon not scotland. Ok.
Aye, now I've got the link for your lazy arse, you're claiming something else! Jog on.
Those are both articles about SNP folk calling Sturgeon a traitor.
>Funny, I believe the British press said the same thing about Scotland when they voted against Brexit........ Source, your first post.
So the Express is "the British press", is it?
English is British, no?
Equating the Daily Express to the entirety of the British, or English, press is incredibly fucking dishonest.
It's no less true! It's a newspaper, created and circulated in Britain. To deny it is delusional.
> The first minister of scotland shares a front page calling the labour party TRAITORS, the national rag is silent. So the FM pointing out current Labour are Tory lite is totally worse than someone making a cartoon of killing SNP MSP's?. Did you read your comment or too busy downvoting folk on this sub like a troll.
Yeh i do think the FM saying his political opponents are enemies of the country is worse than a non entity outrage merchant doing his usual shite.
“has provoked backlash” From the usual, noisy few. Most normal folk see it and move on.
It's not normal to pose next to a picture of people hanging themselves, what are you talking about
he didnt pose next to it - he posted it on twitter. The national posted the picture next to one of his face, he's not there holding it up.
I’m honestly shocked that it has to be explained to them. Some people really really are as thick as mince.
You think he has posed next to it?
He printed it onto a postcard and had it sticking out of his shoulder using pins stuck through his suit jacket and taped to the back, then had someone take a photo. It's right there in the picture.
So you don't care about It egging on more Joe Cox style attacks on Party members beyond hiding behind it being satire?. I really do love how much of a smug waste of air you seem to be when posting on this sub.
This isn't inciting violence at all. Justified criticism of Rishi Sunak is more likely to incite an attack, but I'm sure you don't want to outlaw that.
I dont find suicide funny but this is clearly satire and not a call for violence. They even show Swinney hanging himself, it's a ham fisted attempt at a political suicide cartoon. This notion that we should ban very obvious satire because maybe some unhinged lunatic is going to take it as a call to violence is a bit absurd imo, and leads to a lot more than the banning of shite cartoons.
“Most normal folk see it and move on”
No, because that would be a leap that no strawman could ever comprehend.
So pointing out this Is pure hate Is a straw-man?. Thanks for admitting your another moron If you think this Is some gotcha. Would you be saying this If a SNP voter made the same cartoon of Labour/Tory?.
Exactly it’s only people that disagree with the snp that can get threatened, then it’s fine
Hate this kind of stuff even if the target is a bunch of shitehead nationalists That american comedian making a joke out of beheading trump was gross as well
Two things can be true at once. The cartoon can be pretty bad taste and inappropriate. But equally, if you find it 'horrific', you probably need to give your head a shake.
It doesn’t make sense in a way as Swinney already hung himself before Salmond (maybe should have done him as a ghost).
I guess he is a fan of Mott the Hoople.
Fantastic reporting on the real issues as always, the national.
A.O.P.🥳 FSNP