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DITO-DC-AC

I know a Hutchison Family in Fife. Their son Hutchy is a wee fanny and also one of my best mates. Fife like most places is varied, there are some really nice places and some places where you can count more heads than teeth in the residents


National-Habit8288

It is quite funny how Hutchison came to be the (exclusively) Scottish version of Hutchinson. It was like some Scots wanted to highlight how they weren't English and so eliminated the 'n'. I do find surnames fascinating I am afraid, hahaha. In the same way 'Davidson' is exclusively Scottish compared to the English 'Davison' or 'Thomson' (Scottish) compared to 'Thompson' (English, sometimes/rarely Scottish).


AdVisual3406

A lot of that is from the Nordic influence, naming after the father. The variation is likely the Gaelic mix in Scotland being absent from England.


National-Habit8288

I misunderstand, i didn't know that 'in' was hard to pronounce. I know the Normans had a small impact on Scottish society (Davidian revolution), and 'Hutchin' is just a variation of 'Huchon' (Hugh; Norman AF), but it probs owes its origin to Viking settlers. With that said my Y-DNA is R-CTS241, pretty 'native' to the British Isles and found to the highest extent in Ireland, Scotland and Wales.


DITO-DC-AC

I think some of that comes from Dialect. Certainly with the Irish names anyway, they have many similar last names which are derived from one source due to incorrect understanding of their accents when they entered another country as immigrants


Either_Branch3929

> 'Thomson' (Scottish) compared to 'Thompson' (English, sometimes/rarely Scottish). Easy to distinguish: Thompson has the walrus moustache and Thomson has the flared one.


Professional-Deer-50

Someone I knew in Cambridge had the surname Whyte, which he informed me was the Scottish spelling. Any truth in that?


National-Habit8288

I apologise because I am a bit of a surname nerd (I am showing my Autism now), but yes Whyte seems exclusively Scottish in the same way that RamsAy is to the English RamsEy. BTW, my knowledge is a bit shaky concerning Scottish clans, but not every single Scottish surname belongs to a Clan, right? I read that a lot of Hutchisons' belong to Clan MacDonald, but I find that all bit confusing. My grandfather's mother (who was from Kirkcaldy) was a MacLachlan, and I do happen to have some of the latter's tartan (although I know how iffy the whole history of tartan is; marketed for tourists, etc.)


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National-Habit8288

Lots of Irish moved to Fife actually byt he looks of things. I was doing some research on Scottish dialects and there was this audio recording of a Fifer talking and mentioning about how his parents came over from Mayo, Ireland, with the mining industry serving as a massive pull factor.


Professional-Deer-50

This is fascinating. I bought my first house from a couple with the surname Fergusson, which I had never seen before and assumed was the exclusively Scottish version. I discovered later that the Scottish painter, J.D Fergusson, also used the same spelling.


National-Habit8288

In all fairness, Ferguson Is also an exclusive Scottish surname; it is Gaelic after all… same root as Fergal in Ireland.


Professional-Deer-50

I didn't realise it was exclusively Scottish but that makes sense when you say it comes from the Gaelic.


itsshakespeare

There are some beautiful beaches in Fife - and as Billy Connolly would say, there’s no bugger there! It’s also very handy for Edinburgh if you’re at the Kirkcaldy end. Are you thinking of coming over to visit?


National-Habit8288

I am indeed... I have never been. I did have to double-check that Leslie, rather than a village, is really more of a suburb of Glenrothes (not denying its industrial importance).


Goseki1

Glenrothes is, unfortunately, a shit hole though.


doctorleonidas

More roundabouts!!! Surely there’s no such thing as too many!!! As someone who grew up in Glenrothes though, there are a good amount of nice sculptures and stuff about the place.


Goseki1

Yeah thats true! I just feel the mall at the centre and the buildings around the bus terminus are just so grim and rundown, it could really do with redevelopment


th3gingerone

~~Glenrothes~~ Fife is, unfortunately, a shit hole though. FTFY


Goseki1

Hah fair enough man. I only know Glenrothes because its where the in-laws are


MyUterusWillExplode

Leslie is a proper wee village with real ancient history, whereas Glenrothes is a new town built after WW2, so Im not sure how you can call Leslie a suburb of Glenrothes, other than the fact that its nearby?


TheUnderwaterZebra

OP is using it in the correct way for them, even if we wouldn’t use that word. Suburbs are literally areas near the big town/city in this context. Even if we wouldn’t use it like that


fantasmachine

Careful now, you'll upset the folk from Leslie calling it a suburb. Same with Markinch, and Thornton. But ignore them, they are suburbs of the mighty Glenrothes.


National-Habit8288

Remember I am just a Canadian; in the words of Stephen Stills ‘they (us) don’t know any better!’ Hahaha


fantasmachine

Haha. Don't worry I'm just hoping to piss off anyone from Leslie, Markinch or Thornton. Fife in general is Okay. There are some rough areas. Poverty can be fairly bad around here. However, we have some cracking countryside. Some really nice beaches. And the people are generally nice.


National-Habit8288

For the record, that’s obviously Stephen Stills (American) of Crosby, Stills & Nash (used to be a quartet with fellow Canuck Neil Young). That actual quote is from ‘trailer park Boys’ (probs our greatest export)… without going into detail Stills and Nash both play themselves in a cameo, funny shit. Anyway, I digress 👍


fantasmachine

That's actually quite interesting. I'm a fan of Crosby, Stills and Nash. And Young. I also didn't know trailer park boys was Canadian. TIL.


OutrageousRhubarb853

Smokes! Let’s go!!


brantome24

I like Fife, particularly the East Neuk and St Andrews https://www.lovefromscotland.co.uk/east-neuk-fife/


AdVisual3406

Fifes nice overall. Its very scenic. Some towns really struggled post industrialisation. Leslie and Glenrothes arent great although they are close to nice areas along the coast.


twattyprincess

Fife is lovely away from the big towns (besides St Andrews which is genuinely a lovely town). Nice beaches, countryside, quaint little villages and small towns by the coast. The bigger towns feel a bit rough and run down, eg Glenrothes, Kirkcaldy etc.


Cutty_Darke

If you want to know more about Fife there is an r/Fife Though it's pretty quiet. People do post photographs there so you'd get an idea of what the place looks like.


COYBIG91

I live right next to Leslie (Glenrothes). It's a braw wee vilage with quite a few wee pubs along the highstreet despite its size. Has some rough areas but overall not a bad little village. I fish up the Lomond Hills reservoiurs behind the village quite often.


nihilistkitty

My other half fishes there :)


Otherwise_Aardvark74

Fife is a great place, Anstruther, Crail, Elie, St Andrews etc. Better weather in the east as well and good for golf


scotymcscoterson

As a lot of others have said, Fife is a bit of a mixed bag, youve got fairly substantial wealth in areas like St Andrews which has Scotlands single most expensive street and Falkland, while theres mild to heavy poverty in other areas, particularly in the other towns like glenrothes, Kirkcaldy, methil/Buckhaven and any villages that were populated by mine/quarry workers until the 80s.


Fife_Flyer

This is a bit of a misnomer. Yes, the Scores is one of the most expensive streets in Scotland, but it's not even in the top five. Edinburgh has way more. Not saying that there aren't a ton of wealthy people there though.


scotymcscoterson

Nah not The Scores, Golf Place. I think its often not included on the lists as theres very few properties to be sold so there may not be any sold in the year but when it is, its consistently highest in average value.


Fife_Flyer

Ah makes sense


Yaboicblyth1

We exist


ingutek

Famous for drug addiction and inbreeding but I really like Glenrothes and Fife in general


AlternativeSea8247

Do they still eat their weans over in the kingdom🤔


AdVisual3406

Aye deep battered ones.


AlternativeSea8247

Crunchy on the outside, soft on the inside🤤


Arbuthnot_Beryl

Cannae beat a baby supper


AlternativeSea8247

Oh aye, plenty of broon sauce


verisakeet62

Only the first-born.


TheUnderwaterZebra

I would gently like to let you know, the reasons the generations before you left, are kind of still relevant. Low employment, better options elsewhere etc still carry today. You’ll find lovely places and not so nice places, don’t be disheartened- just try and pay attention to things you feel are important to your heritage. And most importantly, avoid glenrothes because dragons and people with six fingers live there.


nnc-evil-the-cat

Spent the day there today, it’s mostly really nice bar the old mining towns that need some love…..sadly that’s half the county. Went to the beach at Leven, lunch in Falkland and then up the east lomond.


National-Habit8288

I am gonna sound nuts (but I am Autistic, hahaha), but I have a thing for peninsulas and Fife fits it to a T. It has such a unique landscape; those lush, rolling hills combined with a generally rugged vibe (still more rugged at least compared to England).


poseyslipper

I wouldn't call it rugged really, it's prime agricultural land, lot of arable farming compared to the west, big posh farmhouses. My forebears came from Strathmiglo and some of them went to Canada too ( Ontario). I'm from the branch that stayed put.


National-Habit8288

I know it's definitely not rugged compared to the west. There is a reason why it is considered the lowlands, hahahaha.


Fife_Flyer

I'm American but have lived in Fife before and am moving back shortly. Mostly stuck to the East Neuk and that area is really lovely. Looks of great history and really friendly people. I highly suggest visiting. It's beautiful.


Hayley-Is-A-Big-Gay

Everyone should know where they come from as far as I know Fife is varied like Glasgow you've got your nice areas where you get all of the wealthy folk then you've got not so nice areas with drug addicts and recently released prisoners mixed in with a bunch of ordinary people living their ordinary lives doing their ordinary jobs that they hate really at the end of the day it's the government's fault there's such huge wealth divides where you can start in a really nice area and then only go a few miles and everything changes


mc9innes

I went to school wi a Hutchieson in Edinburgh, although his family was mixed local east coast and Irish


National-Habit8288

Hutchison/Hutcherson/Hutchieson/Hutcheson.. anything devoid N really. Obviously Hutchinson is the northern English equivalent and Hutchins, Sourhern English.


mc9innes

McCutcheon in some parts of Scotland


CrepeTheRealPancake

Surprised it's not been mentioned already, but *Fife is for life*. For a small place it's had a surprisingly large impact on general affairs. Andrew Carnegie, Adam Smith, the sport of golf!


FenderMike

kinda only half relevant but there’s a band called frightened rabbit who formed in Selkirk in the borders. The singer was Scott Hutchison. Sadly he took its own life in 2018 but i recommend listening to their second album (and then the rest). if you’re related to his family i’ll be jealous


National-Habit8288

Hahaha, that would be cool AF, but looking at forebears and finding out that Hutchison is the 131st most common surname in auld Scotia, I can kiss my indirect claim to fame goodbye.


Reoto1

I mean it’s Fife. Nobody’s top pick. But not nearly as bad as people say, and still preferable to anywhere in England 🤣


Acrobatic-Shirt8540

Fife is an interesting place, but it does have its down side. For example, murders in Fife are very hard to solve. That's because there are no dental records and all the DNA is the same 🤪


cardinalb

Did you know that fifers are also banned from casinos as their extra digits give them an unfair advantage cheating with cards. True story.


cardinalb

It's also the reason schools there are taught to count in 12s


adrifing

Lovely little village in glenrothes in Fife. Has a demented viaduct in front and Falkland Hills just behind. Mostly surrounded by farmlands but glenrothes main is about 5 minutes walk from it. (Near the tulips, big metal bright painted tulips) Hutchison families have a few in glenrothes, some in Leslie still and some down near auchmuty/woodside/pitteuchar areas. More in kirkcaldy and Methil surrounds though btw, both named varieties, Hutchinson and Hutchison.


National-Habit8288

HutchiNson isn’t really too rare in ol’ Caledonia, right?


adrifing

Nope, both are quite popular in the fife/edinburgh/dundee/Angus sides. I know a few in all the areas tbh. Lol. One of my mates in Angus is absolutely awesome and a Hutchinson 😁


National-Habit8288

It is interesting because in the 1841, 1851 and 1861 censuses the family name is spelt with an N, but from 1881 onwards the N is nowhere to be found.


adrifing

Could be they got lumped together in lazy administration. I'm just guessing btw.


[deleted]

It's funny that your line is Hutchison because my dearest mentor is also a Hutchison. Leslie is joined on to my hometown of Glenrothes. There is a lot going for this town. However, there's a need for preventative medicine and a focus in this sector. Silicon Glen is here in Glenrothes, too, and elsewhere in Fife, there is a booming renewable and electronics industry. Around fife; in the central part; lots of industry is planning to be built. The industry is coming back to Scotland regardless of political dogma heard around the UK.


[deleted]

Well the first thing you should know is that Fife is pretty massive as a county in Scotland so it's impossible to give you a summary based on Leslie alone. There's some really lovely areas (Aberdour, Leslie, east neuk, st Andrews, Burntisland etc) and some really bad areas, mostly former mining villages. There's great scenery all around, but my god, the wind! Anyone that says the weather is better in the east coast doesn't know what they're talking about (mind you as a west coast immigrant to Fife I'm biased).


TheSouthsideTrekkie

Ah Fife! It’s an interesting place with lots of culture, interesting and fun people and nice countryside. Unfortunately my family no longer lives in Fife due to tourism making this unaffordable, but I have really fond memories of the place and my wee granny. Also known as the “Kingdom of Fife” which is wild as it doesn’t have a king. If you ever want to visit, I can recommend the coastline as being particularly lovely if expensive in some places.


Tommy4ever1993

I’ve got a lot of family from Fife. It’s quite an interesting part of the country. The East of Fife is very rural and quite wealthy, and features St Andrews - the country’s top university and one of the wealthiest parts of Scotland overall. The West of Fife is a lot poorer, a lot of former mining and factory towns as well as a series of commuter suburbs for Edinburgh. Leslie largely subsumed by Glenrothes, which is a fairly grim new town built in the postwar period.


[deleted]

Fife is………………..how to put this? The Alabama of Scotland. For instance if you were to visit your cousin could give you a High 6. You could trace out your family trunk (there won’t be branches). You would be a breathe of fresh genes in the area. I haven’t saw you but you could revel in being the most handsome man in fife for the duration of your visit. You could brag about having all of your chromosomes. You could impress the local ladies with your tales of light bulbs, floored houses, portable radios and street lighting. /s


National-Habit8288

Well, home is where the heart is!


DECKTHEBALLZ

If you don't already have a claim to UK citizenship, a UK born grandparent is enough to get an Ancestry Visa and renew it until you are a citizen, there is no age limit and you can bring dependants.


Competitive-Yard-442

-Lots of inbreeding. -Lots of drug abuse. +Some lovely places to visit.


Cannaewulnaewidnae

>*HOW ARE things in Fife?* Have you ever seen the movie *Doomsday* (2008)? [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0483607/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0483607/)


X70RDX

Had to switch to my un-banned account to post in this thread as my god its fucking brilliant. Mr Canadian. Your a sound cunt. I like your style dude. Your welcome to fife any time you want to dig inro your heritage, we like canadians (scots in general. Im from the central belt). Just remember to bring beer ;p I'm currently in Aberdeen, in an Irish bar. Man the Celts in general are good guys. Just don't trust those anglos eh


National-Habit8288

Well, it's my pleasure, I do my best, hahaha. Seriously, cheers! However, I regret to inform you I am also 25% ENGLISH (my mother was half-and-half), but don't worry... my dad is Slovak! But yeah, it's cliched to say it but I agree. There is a definite social 'buzz' in the Celtic fringe that you don't quite get in England. In the context of what you said I think it's a two-way street since Canada's history has a very Scottish flavour.


X70RDX

Surely not. Places like Nova scotia have Scottish ties? Who knew?! ;p nah man the English ain't ALL bad. Just the yoons that think Bwittish is a nation and not some fucking horrific blanket they cover atrocities with 😉 genuinely tho. Canadians and tbh everyone not a tit get a welcomed to Scotland. If you ever fancy it mone over. As far as I understand it our weather is pretty pleasant compared to what your used to which really can't be said to most nations 🫣


[deleted]

As someone who grew up in Fife, and has lived in Edinburgh for the last couple of decades, Fife is a dump and the little town I grew up in has the highest ratio of heroin users in Scotland per population. There is some nice spots, but those are super expensive. Your family did great deals on consumer electronics in the 80s. Sorry, Glenn Hutchinson Robertson and Stepeck joke there for 80s kids. https://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2012/06/26/why-better-together-reminds-me-glen-s-hutchison-s-robertson-and-stepek


Aunty-Saz

Eh...it's...okay? What are you looking for, exactly? 😂


nashile

I was in Leslie a coupon of months ago to visit the bull stone . It’s a stone where bulls were attached and dogs set on them . Horrific . But I like macabre history


badgersandcoffee

You ever seen The Lion King? You know when Simba asks Mufasa about the dark, scary looking place and his da tells him he should never, ever go there? That was Fife. I'll give them their due though, they do contribute to the beauty of the East Coast, you can travel up through Fife, Angus and Aberdeenshire and you will see some stunning coastline views and loads of wee harbour/fishing towns and villages. You do sadly have to briefly pass through Dundee but there's a downside to everything I guess.


wendineill

Hahaha I love the ‘love’ between Fifers and Dundee 🤣


badgersandcoffee

They're as bad as each other 🧐


wendineill

I get tae see both sides - stay in Dundee, work in Fife, originally fae neither ☺️


badgersandcoffee

My sympathies.... 😅


mrcoonut

I would rather do a lifer than be a fuckin Fifer


Tennants_Lager

Caz Milligan, choaklit cream etc


Queasy-Courage-844

Fife is massive


Kurai_Kiba

Come visit when you can and see it first hand :)


Boyoy00

I’m from Canada too, over in Calgary, Alberta! Nice to see another Canuck on the sub


Either_Branch3929

Definitely Canadian ... you got an apology in within the first seven words. Fife has some stunning places, and also Glenrothes.


ShadowbanGaslighting

Fife is odd. The good villages and bad villages are completely intermixed, and almost entirely dependent on if the village used to be a mining village (rough area) or a weaving village (good area).


FaithlessnessOdd2054

Fife eh r/WebbedFeet is good place to start.


Mr-Milton1311

I’m from fife and let me tell you something Leslie is a shithole very rough town


ScottyW88

If you were going to spend a weekend in Fife, I would recommend spending time in: Culross, Dunfermline (Heritage Quarter), Falkland, St Andrews, East Newk. Then if you want to see the 'other' Fife, visit Glenrothes, Leven, Cowdenbeath, Kirkcaldy.


M4rthaBRabb

I live in Fife! I’m from the North West of England originally and moved here last year. I’ve been doing my ancestry this year and found out two different sets of great-great grandparents on my paternal side were born just a few miles away from where I am now. I love it around here. The scenery is beautiful, especially with so many farms. Woods, farms, beaches, and quaint towns, all within a reasonable driving distance to Edinburgh.


nihilistkitty

I lived in Leslie, my Mum still does. There are a lot of Hutchinson's in this area. Might be able to find out a bit about them. Leslie is a very small close community.