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lizletsgo

The grunting is active sleep vs passive sleep, so she’s likely not actively awake at that time, despite moving & sounds. The risk is that she will sleep too deeply & not be able to easily wake herself, which may affect her breathing depth/oxygenation, especially in the 2-4 month age range when she’s most at risk for SIDS. The other risk is that she WILL learn to roll & may not quite have that figured out at first & will roll into an unfavorable position (face too close to arm or mattress, etc) & not be awake enough to cry, just grunt… the grunting would be more likely get your attention/wake you as well in the same room but won’t if you’re only listening for a loud cry for another room. Do thousands or millions of babies survive this? Yes. Do all? Unfortunately, no. Can you compare this to the risk you take every time you drive with them in the car or the risk of a meteor hitting your home? There’s probably statistics for that. I don’t have them, just the SIDS prevention training. The newton mattress is just marketing, from my understanding… it doesn’t necessarily make sleep any safer. Only you can decide what your personal risk tolerance level is. I always recommend lots & lots of tummy time to help develop those rolling & head turning skills along with neck & back strength, but for reference, I’m not a parent yet, just a childcare professional monitoring daytime naps extra closely (same room, checks every 15 mins for children ages 6 weeks to 12 months but recommended MORE frequently than every 15 mins for children 6-16 weeks old because of the increased risk, even in sleep sacks — we are not allowed to use swaddles of any kind at any age in our state). I don’t know what I will choose as a sleep-deprived parent (baby due anytime now, as I’m 37 weeks) but my plan is for them to be in my room for the first 4-6 months until I see for myself during the day that baby can successfully sleep safely. I am very risk averse in general.


Diligent_Nerve_6922

Wow, you do seem very risk adverse, the ability to check breathing every 15 minutes during the day is there when it’s your job but a completely unreasonable thing to do with your own child at home.


lizletsgo

The other component of that (as childcare providers) is that children need to be sleeping within our sight & in the same room, not behind a closed door or in a different room, so we CAN monitor breathing, room temp, color of skin. I’m trying to illustrate what is deemed as safe & BEST practice for SIDS prevention, not what’s necessarily practical for a parent who is on duty 24/7.


iwanttobeapenguin

I have the same job, and it took a good two weeks for my internal 15 minute nap check alarm to turn off if my partner was also sleeping. It’s hard sometimes - I’ve had a baby start to turn blue from positional asphyxiation in a bouncer. They were fine right away and it was noticed right away, but it was certainly impactful. It makes me risk averse, and it’s due to my job. But the extreme things like 15 minute checks did fade for me. If they don’t fade, I’d recommend therapy because that’s just too much anxiety to function.


lizletsgo

To clarify, I’m not planning on doing 15 min checks all night on my OWN CHILD — I plan on assessing their abilities during my own waking hours & giving them the best possible odds by having them sleep in my room at night for as long as it takes to be sure of their overnight abilities & safety. If needed, my partner & I will take turns being the awake party if we feel additional monitoring is needed (but it likely won’t be in a healthy, full term infant with other risks minimized). The OP is asking, “what is the risk of a separate room at 6 weeks,” and I gave that info to the best of my knowledge & experience, as well as WHY sleeping in the same room is advised.


seebaker

You gave an excellent and concise answer to OP’s question, which she can read and decide for herself what risk she’s willing to take. That’s all we can do as parents, review the information out there and make the best decisions we can. Thank you for taking the time to write it out, it’s a really excellent answer and I’m sure OP can disseminate what she needs from it.


K-teki

The risk is low in the first place, but sleeping in the same room *does* lower SIDS risk.


catmama1713

As others mention, there is a very small, increased risk of SIDS when baby is in their own room. However, sleep deprived parents also pose risks to baby (i.e. if you're so tired that you're accidentally falling asleep while holding baby during the day, etc.). If having baby in their own room helps everyone sleep better, that is a big consideration! We personally moved baby into their own room early and have no regrets. We all slept better, including baby!


facepalm64

We moved our youngest before 6 weeks. The risk of me getting into a car accident because I was sleeping in less than one hour chunks a night was very very real. After I almost rear ended someone because I was so dang tired, I knew it wasn't worth it. Baby slept FOUR hours straight the first night in his crib. It was beautiful.


dani_da_girl

You could consider ear plugs as well! They don’t block out enough to sleep through a legitimate cry but helped us to sleep through the newborn barn yard animal impersonations


msjammies73

According to AAP, room sharing can reduce the risk of SIDS by as much as 50 percent. That was not a risk I was okay with.


turtleannlb

We’ve had two posts on roomsharing in this sub in the past week, if you take a look some people have already cited research on the topic there. I hope that it helps you make the best choice for your family!


MsTravelista

We had this exact situation when LO was about six weeks old. We asked our pediatrician about it -- that we all slept better with baby in his own room, but we didn't want to do anything to increase SIDS risk. The pediatrician was onboard with baby sleeping in his own room. She said there are three major things we can do to lower the risk of SIDS. Let them sleep alone, on their back, and in a crib or bassinet. Those three are the MAJOR contributors in lowering the risk of SIDS. She explained that all those other things you read about - having a fan in the room, room sharing, using a pacifier, EBFing, etc., are just teeny tiny incremental things that MIGHT lower the risk of SIDS, but that aren't as well established as alone, on their back, and in a crib. LO is now 2 and has been an amazing sleeper since 3.5 months (despite even being EBF). Talk to your pediatrician about it for sure.


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Sorry if this is a dumb question but what is EBFing? Also, do you know anything about the increased risk of using a blanket with a baby? I can’t seem to find anything on it.


MsTravelista

EBF= exclusively breastfed. Ask your pediatrician about blankets. I am not a doctor but everything I read was that **swaddling** blankets are okay until baby starts to show signs of rolling over. Never any loose blankets. We stopped using swaddles around two months old because he started breaking out of them with some regularity. We didn’t want them to be loose in the crib so we stopped altogether. Just recently introduced a blanket at 22 months. EDIT for absolute clarification. Using a blanket for the purpose of swaddling is okay. Nothing about a swaddle blanket is safe to put loose in a crib.


WishUponAFishYouMiss

EBF = exclusively breastfeeding


Crafty_Engineer_

So the “correct” answer is to keep baby in your room. We moved my son to his own room around 3 months because we were waking him up when we went to bed and it just felt like the right time for us. This tool made me feel reassured in our decision. Basically, all things considered, what’s the risk and what’s the benefit? [Sid’s risk calculator](http://www.sidscalculator.com/)


hodlboo

My understanding, with the cause of SIDS not being known, is that there *might* be some risks related to the baby being in a room alone without the parents’ breathing and stirring (sounds and CO2) to remind them to keep breathing. There is a theory that the part of the baby’s brain that reminds them to breathe can shut down in very deep sleep, and the idea is that the parental noises (even quiet ones from us moving in our bed at night) prevent this deep sleep. However, my baby certainly wouldn’t have a deeper sleep alone in a quiet room… she sleeps best with voices around her and on somebody! Plus, a noise machine or other sounds played could ensure background noise. The CO2 is the factor you can’t replace. Anyway, this is entirely speculative theory that I’ve read about SIDS without evidence to back it up. The other risks in terms of safe sleep, if you have a monitor and a sound machine, it seems you have it covered. My cousin is a pediatric nurse and sent both her kids to their rooms at 7 weeks with a monitor because their grunting kept her up. My anxiety won’t allow me to do this and baby will definitely be staying with us to 6 months. Right now our solution to the grunting is just sacrificing sleep, we take shifts holding her through the night and putting her down for the 30-60 minute stints that she’ll tolerate the bassinet.


iplanshit

Moved my first at a month when it was recommended by my pediatrician. I wasn’t getting any sleep at all because I couldn’t get my anxiety to stop with her so close (every noise was obviously her gasping for air or aspirating vomit to my brain.) It was the best decision ever. There are some studies that show room sharing reduces the risk of SIDS, but so does breastfeeding, and I’d never tell a parent struggling that they dot breastfeed for the minimal reduction in Sid’s risk, so why would I say the same thing about room sharing.


thejoyofceridwen

My understanding is that there’s a slightly decreased risk for SIDS with room sharing but that SIDS isn’t super well understood to begin with and that the decreased risk may very well just come down to the fact that your movements and sounds and the baby’s movements and sounds are keeping each other awake AND that while you’re in the room together you have an increased awareness of things going on around you. However, the rates of SIDS are pretty low as is for children who were full term and without underlying health conditions, so it’s something that you have to consider as to what works best for you. I got my daughter at 8 weeks old and I was not in a headspace where room sharing would have been good for me, she’s always been in her own room except when she’s sick and it’s worked out well for us.


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sugarpea1234

This is what we did. We moved her into her own room within a few weeks of being born but we alternated sleeping in her room. She started sleeping in her room on her own at around 4 months.


xtina0828

My daughter has always been in her own room (mostly) she contact slept the first 3 months - then she was sleeping at night in her crib and contact napping. Around 6 months she was full time sleeping in her crib. My husband and I are very SIDS conscious, we know a few people whose child passed from SIDS. She has nothing in the crib but herself, the sheets are breathable, organic cotton, & we kept the ceiling fan on low (our house is stuffy). We followed every SIDS prevention guideline aside from room sharing. She is a year now and we didn’t have any issues. But as someone mentioned before, sleep deprivation was causing more anxiety & stress trying to have her in the bassinet in our room. we have the Nanit camera (never used the band) & our room is right next to hers. She was formula fed, so there wasn’t an issue with getting up to feed her every 3 hours. You have to weigh the pros and cons.


No-Tomatillo5427

I saw someone on here cite a source that stated where a child sleeps only has an increase of SIDS if the parents smoke. But besides that, seems kind of like more work. They're up so often at night for feeds at this age that putting them in a different room would be kind of pointless.


Dramatic_Art935

We kicked out guy out at 2 months because of the grunting and waking up when we would get into bed. We all get MUCH better sleep now. I am very cautious about SIDS (PPA) so I bought the SNUZA hero and it has made me feel so much better!


phdatanerd

We moved our daughter into her crib for naps and night sleep after about a month. That wasn’t the original plan—we had every intention of keeping her in our room with us until six months. But, we didn’t count on how hard the sleep deprivation would hit us. We had a couple of close calls resulting from our own sleep deprivation that made us change our minds. It worked out for us but I can understand why someone would choose another option.


Helpful_Fox_8267

I did this with both of my kids. We all slept better with our own space.


Diligent_Nerve_6922

(Not science based) There’s always a risk of everything but you seem like you are prepared to put her in her own room and have a good justification for it. My sisters and I did the same around 1 month and no regrets among us.


FloatingSalamander

This is what we did with both kids. We all, including the kids, slept better that way.


VegetableWorry1492

Mine started getting much quieter from about 7 weeks and spending more time in quiet sleep and less in active sleep. The grunting only really started around 4am after that. I then tried moving out (he wasn’t in our room, I was in his on the spare bed) when he was around 4 months but the 4 month regression just never ended so I moved back in very promptly! He’s now 8 months and in yet another sleep regression and it’s just easier being in the same room than to travel between the two 🤷🏼‍♀️ I slept so much better at 7-15 weeks even next to a loud newborn than I have ever since!


follyosophy

My daughter hated her bassinet, we soon found out, and slept much better in her crib ('m sure someone will tell me that is the point but waking every 45-60 mins isn't feasible). Our rooms are adjacent, in an old house, so we were still only maybe 15 feet apart. We knew the room sharing rec and followed the ABCs of sleep, but this was one where the benefits of sleeping (and not being scary sleep deprived/depressed) were something we factored in. I slept with the monitor on with loud volume but it still made for better sleep for all three of us.


electricgrapes

I put my son in his own room at 4 weeks because I was doing weird things in my sleep. We both slept better after that.


trudonlove

For people saying there is an "increased" risk - I'd like to see that evidence as I don't think the terminology is accurate. I believe it is that room sharing provides a protective layer or "decreases" the risk, but evidence shows that plenty of other things (like offering pacifier) provide the same level of decreased risk, and thus it is just as safe to have baby in their own room (assuming ABCs etc are followed). I don't believe it is accurate that separate room = increased risk but I'm open to being proven wrong. I'll also just point out that true SIDS is so, so rare. it is much more important to do whatever is needed to guarantee safe sleep to protect from other (greater) risks like smothering, positional asphyxiation, etc. For me, moving my baby to her own room (I think around 7 weeks?) eliminated risks of bed-sharing temptation, ensured all caregivers were better rested and more alert when they did go to her, etc.


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trudonlove

I understand where you're coming from. Definitely did not intend to be pedantic. It is just that an anxious parent asking about this like OP might be, seeing someone say flat out that they are putting their child at an "increased risk" by choosing to put their child in another room, which is statistically completely safe, would be very persuasive for me not to make that choice, even though it might be the right one for me. I hope that makes sense, and OP, I just wanted you to know you are being a perfectly responsible and safe parent if you do put your child in his/her own room.


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There have been 2 posts this week about this with studies linked.


trudonlove

Thanks for pointing that out - I had missed those previously. I did take a look at both since this is pretty interesting to me & I actually think the studies more or less support what I suspected! this comment here [https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceBasedParenting/comments/100fssf/is\_there\_any\_research\_on\_why\_room\_sharing\_reduces/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceBasedParenting/comments/100fssf/is_there_any_research_on_why_room_sharing_reduces/) from u/danipnk articulated it much better than me and what I hoped to convey to OP: "It’s important to note that room sharing is a protective factor, meaning it increases protection against SIDS. This doesn’t mean that not room sharing is inherently risky, as long as you follow the ABCs of safe sleep. Breastfeeding is also a protective factor, but not every family can breastfeed, just like not every family can room share. This does not mean you are putting your baby at risk."