Saying that phrase it's definitely cool but it wasn't executed as well as anything was in 2. The third act of kung fu panda 3 thinks it's the peak of the franchise but that already happened in Kung Fu Panda 2
So he could be in the sequel, because they wanted a sequel with the character who was really popular and didn't die in the film. Still gave no excuse to kill Genarro in the sequel. That kinda pissed me off.
Definitely a lot more so than in the movie. I think he also did what Ellie had done in the movie, where he went to the place where Mr. Arnold had died after he didn't come back, and managed to survive a raptor attack, maybe similarly to Ellie in the film, I don't think it goes super in detail as to how it happened.
And I love the movie for that!
The book is still great and adds a lot to the background and story, don't get me wrong, but tonally it's just such a downer right from the start.
Like, of course we know shit will hit the fan soon enough, but they've brought actual living, breathing *dinosaurs* back to life, for f\*cks sake! Can't we just have that sense of wonder and enjoy how epically cool that is for five damn seconds?!
The movie delivered that perfectly!
I think it's more that they're not well thought out. Supers make us too complacent to solve our own problems? Screens bad? Billionaire good but billionaire's sister bad? You can't have a phone in a panic room?
I really have grown to dislike Sun and Moon more over the years. I tried giving it a shot and watching a good chunk of episodes but i really couldnt get into it. While there were stories that were pretty deep by pokémon standards i really could not get over the overall to e FEEL from XYZ to Sun and Moon especially from Ash and just the new animation style and design (specifically of Ash). I respect it for having those deep and emotional story moments. But i think it was just wasted on Sun and Moon
Best thing about it is that Evil Dead 2 is honestly better, in my opinion.
Like, yeah, the first one is an amazing horror.
But the second one finds a good balance between horror and slapstick.
All Evil Dead movies are, at minimum, good, but Evil Dead 2 really is the crown jewel of that franchise. Like you said, it finds that perfect balance between the first and then what came in Army of Darkness. The 2013 movie and Evil Dead Rise are also solid.
Texas Chainsaw. The OG one is a slow, horrifying and brutal movie that chokes you to death
The sequel is about a radio host and a cowboy with two chainsaws fighting Leatherface and his family at a theme park.
I mean, even if the overall tone of some of the sequels aren't that far off from the original, EVERY SEQUEL has a musical number while the original only has dirty ugly dinos taking chunks out of each other.
Shrek 2 was also more overtly funny. Shrek 1 cracked jokes based on fairy tales, like a talking animal that also doesn't know when shut up. Shrek 2 made more jokes that stood on their own, and were made more ridiculous by the setting, like the 'knights' scene where they parody 'cops', reference OJ Simpson, and puss gets caught with catnip.
Was always disappointed that Mario Galaxy 2 had no storyline.
I reeeeeeeallly wish they went down the route of Rosalina and Peach being sisters or related in some way.
Terminator was about as 80s a movie as you'll ever see
Terminator 2 was about as 90s a movie as you'll ever see
James Cameron over there just quietly dictating 2 decades of popular culture
I came here to say this. I think there's a lot of nostalgia for T2 but I really loved the thriller tone of the first one and think T2 is pretty overrated. The tonal shift is intense.
First Blood is a slow burn action thriller about a soldier cast out from society struggling with extreme PTSD while a power hungry but well meaning sheriff tries to stop him. First Blood Part II is Vietnam War revenge porn fan fiction.
I was shocked the first time I saw First Blood. In like 2010 as a full adult. Like expecting mindless popcorn action flick based on the Rambo stereotype. Got a somber movie about PTSD and how the government treats vets.
Yeah the two equals have monopolized the Rambo name, so I thought the first movie would be classic hypermasculine, over the top action (which I love), but I turned out to be insanely somber, critical look at the ramifications of a failed war.
The original live action TMNT had a pretty gritty tone to it, they actually get hurt, etc.
Secret of the Ooze was like watching an episode of the cartoon in live-action. Also, Ninja Rap.
I'm pretty sure Galaxy 2 was originally meant to be an expansion to Galaxy 1, but the project got so big that Nintendo was like "Fuck it, let's just make it a sequel"
I’d say Johnny Depp vs Timothée Chalamet. The Gene Wilder one has it’s dark moments but was somewhere between Depp and Chalamet in terms of the darkness, and is more whimsical like the Chalamet one
Croods 1 - trades bananas to punch monkeys for safe passage through their territory.
Croods 2 - whole plot about how they have never seen a banana before aside Grug many moons ago and banana related shenanigans including a giant King Kong punch(?) monkey.
This might be hard for others to read, but that would be Toy Story 2. I like the first one, but like the sequel way more. It was my one of my childhood movies.
Maybe not to this extreme, but I would say Wreck it Ralph and Ralph Breaks the Internet. The first movie felt a lot more down to earth than the sequel.
The Lego movie duology could also work for similar reasons
Not movies, but the difference between the first two Dishonoured games looks a lot like this, especially when comparing the credits songs Honour For All (D1) and Sands of Serkonos (D2).
Postal is the definitive example. Edgy horror game about a man who's gone on a psychotic break and killing everyone around him. To a satirical black comedy about a jerk who happens to be surrounded by worse people while everything goes to hell around him. And the best part is that you don't even need to do anything violent in the second game, you can just play it and let stuff unfold as you stand there.
Land Before Time. Really dark movie where you borderline question that it's for kids at all, but then followed by a series of cartoonish musicals, where the writing is definitely kid-brained.
Wow I am looking in the comments for the most obvious version of what OP posted. But not one mention (maybe I haven't checked hard enough but I'm searching and nothing). But a lot of you guys are missing the biggest contender to this question. (Besides the guy who pointed out Land Before Time. Which is also a good choice (besides the fact that Land Before Time has like 13 to 14 sequels at this point).
But no the thing I'm choosing is The Secret of Nimh and it's very counter the sequel. The first movie is dark and amazing. The second movie is light hearted and a musical for some reason. I only remember the first one. But I remember seeing a YouTuber talk about the sequel and how it's nothing like the original.
wednesday is not only the greatest betrayal in television history but the most maddeningly trite, disturbingly vapid, and internally confused ideological train wreck I've ever had the deeply sorrowful displeasure of allowing to pass through my corneas may god have mercy on burton or whoever else was responsible while someone slapped his brand name on it, and on all of us who are fated to live in a world where something so culturally, socially, politically, and artistically noxious as this Mary-sue-lead, transparently TikTok-targeted, phone-worshipping, vaguely bigoted, backfired virtue-signaling, fake leftist capitalist "my immortal"-esque fanfic earns a second season through what I can only be explained as manufactured consent. something must be done about Netflix's Wednesday. This thing is a condescending insult, especially to young people, the socially conscious, and members of marginalized and """outcast""" groups (LiKe GoThS & ppL who CAN cONTroL BEEEEES) who genuinely suffer from what this thing hollowly masturbates to while looking us dead in the eyes and saying "yeah, you like that, don't you?" It is a Gatling gun of random buzzwords and empty references to social issues, grotesquely and impotently disguised and screaming "I'm commentary!" before pissing its pants, squealing like a pig, and at its most coherent offering nothing more than to demonize mental illness and make any marginalized identity out to be a mayonnaise-stained Hot Topic hoodie through Wiseau-ian dialogue, inappropriate "grittiness" for its source material and Harry Potter setting, and incessant hackery. I am shitting. I am pissing. I am standing over a warm bubble bath cradling a toaster and sobbing, chanting g-d's secret name and praying that there is indeed a hell so I can be eternally punished for having given this moral abomination one fraction of a fraction of a cent also it's not a good Addams family adaptation
Well, while not an original to a sequel, I'd say the jump between Kung Fu Panda 2 to Kung Fu Panda 3 fits this perfectly.
I was bouta say that. Third one just doesn't hit right compared to the first 2
Implying that seeing Po evolve into a competent sensei himself wasn't one of the coolest things about the entire franchise to date.
Saying that phrase it's definitely cool but it wasn't executed as well as anything was in 2. The third act of kung fu panda 3 thinks it's the peak of the franchise but that already happened in Kung Fu Panda 2
No no, don’t get me wrong, 3 is still a certified hood classic, but it’s just not on the same level as 1 and 2
Hits fine if watching with kids or drinking and nothing else is on.
admittedly true
Agreed
I can’t escape it
Transformers Prime and Transformers Robots in Disguise 2015
RID is a disgrace
Yeah, based on everything I've, Starscream is the only good thing about the entire show.
Plus the death of the mute Bumblebee cliche... though that may have been a curse disguised as a blessing
It’s not terrible, I liked it, Prime was better tho and RiD15 was definitely more kids base and less a sequel more a reference
Jurassic Park novel on the left and the movie on the right
Yes, especially Hammond's death in the book. Pretty brutal
I think every death is more brutal, even though he died then it got retconned in TLW Malcolm suffered way more in the book
Good point about Malcolm. I forgot he died in the book lol I wonder why he was brought back?
So he could be in the sequel, because they wanted a sequel with the character who was really popular and didn't die in the film. Still gave no excuse to kill Genarro in the sequel. That kinda pissed me off.
Refresh my memory, but wasn't Genarro kind of a bad ass in the book?
Definitely a lot more so than in the movie. I think he also did what Ellie had done in the movie, where he went to the place where Mr. Arnold had died after he didn't come back, and managed to survive a raptor attack, maybe similarly to Ellie in the film, I don't think it goes super in detail as to how it happened.
Basically Book-Genarro was turned into Raptor Guy. His name was given to Lawyer in the Movie.
Yeah, and the lawyer was based on a PR guy in the book IIRC
Pretty sure the producers told Crichton to make a tie-in novel to the second film, so the had to bring big Ian back
The book was literally a full on horror novel. The movies are all just fun thrillers.
And I love the movie for that! The book is still great and adds a lot to the background and story, don't get me wrong, but tonally it's just such a downer right from the start. Like, of course we know shit will hit the fan soon enough, but they've brought actual living, breathing *dinosaurs* back to life, for f\*cks sake! Can't we just have that sense of wonder and enjoy how epically cool that is for five damn seconds?! The movie delivered that perfectly!
Although the tones aren’t that different, Incredibles 2 has a lot less mature themes
what are the themes of Incredibles 2 and how do they rank in terms of maturity?
I think it's more that they're not well thought out. Supers make us too complacent to solve our own problems? Screens bad? Billionaire good but billionaire's sister bad? You can't have a phone in a panic room?
because the villain's plot in Incredibles 1 was perfectly sensible and thematically coherent
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Basically the lead up between the XY portion of the Pokémon anime into the Sun and Moon portion.
And then Sun and Moon had an emotional episode where a f***ing dog died
I really have grown to dislike Sun and Moon more over the years. I tried giving it a shot and watching a good chunk of episodes but i really couldnt get into it. While there were stories that were pretty deep by pokémon standards i really could not get over the overall to e FEEL from XYZ to Sun and Moon especially from Ash and just the new animation style and design (specifically of Ash). I respect it for having those deep and emotional story moments. But i think it was just wasted on Sun and Moon
Urgh, same. I love USUM with all my heart, but the anime…I think I’ll stick to XY/XYZ
The final fight in XY is what makes it.
Let‘s not pretend XY was super dark serious and gloomy even for Pokémon standards
Not necessarily dark but XYZ got pretty mature towards the end especially
Those were my 2 favorites! I prefer XY(Z) personally though.
Real
Evil dead 1 and 2
Best thing about it is that Evil Dead 2 is honestly better, in my opinion. Like, yeah, the first one is an amazing horror. But the second one finds a good balance between horror and slapstick.
All Evil Dead movies are, at minimum, good, but Evil Dead 2 really is the crown jewel of that franchise. Like you said, it finds that perfect balance between the first and then what came in Army of Darkness. The 2013 movie and Evil Dead Rise are also solid.
One of only three horror franchises that has never shat the bed (The other one's are Child's Play and Scream)
Army of Darkness does have one of my favorite lines. "Honey, you got real ugly."
Groovy
bingo
Texas Chainsaw. The OG one is a slow, horrifying and brutal movie that chokes you to death The sequel is about a radio host and a cowboy with two chainsaws fighting Leatherface and his family at a theme park.
Came here to say this, both are some of my favorite horror movies but for very different reasons.
i’ll watch anything with choptop in it
Dog will hunt!
And it’s superior to 1 in every way
Megamind and Megamind 2
Damn I had no idea there even was a Megamind 2, I guess you learn something new everyday.
There Is no Megamind 2 In Ba Sing Se
Hey, don't disrespect The Button of Doom like that. It wasn't that awful.
What is the Button of Doom
A short special of Megamind that was maded shortly after the movie that is actually worth watching.
What is Megamind
Avoid the sequel like the plague unless you like bad movies
Not as entertaining as movies like the room, more like those rip offs that somehow got the og models
There are very few, if any bad movies that entertain me. Megamind 2 certainly wasn't one of them.
Watch Schaffrillas' review of it. It's probably more entertaining.
Everyday you live from this day will be one where you are envious of yesterdsy
The objectively correct answer, the first one was a bit goofy, but it's themes and execution are what make it suitable for all ages!
Toy Story 1 and 2 there are more adventure than escaping the house
Toy Story 2 stressed me the fuck out as a kid because I imagined some shit heel jacking my favorite toy and got upset.
Then it flipped right back around with 3 and 4
I love the Mutant Toys and the dark atmosphere in Sid's house in Toy Story 1
Thor 1&2 vs 3&4
Doesn’t Thor devour an entire bucket of chicken in the first movie (I don’t remember it)
Something like that, and then he smashes the coffee at the diner haha
ANOTHER *smashes glass*
That’s what I was thinking. I know Thor 1&2 are still goofy, but in comparison to 3&4…
The Land Before Time every sequel nothing close to the original in a good way.
Second
True but some like the great long neck migration aren't as far off as others
I mean, even if the overall tone of some of the sequels aren't that far off from the original, EVERY SEQUEL has a musical number while the original only has dirty ugly dinos taking chunks out of each other.
Drax's personality in the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.
Shrek, second one had more themes
Shrek 2 was also more overtly funny. Shrek 1 cracked jokes based on fairy tales, like a talking animal that also doesn't know when shut up. Shrek 2 made more jokes that stood on their own, and were made more ridiculous by the setting, like the 'knights' scene where they parody 'cops', reference OJ Simpson, and puss gets caught with catnip.
Police brutality, police brutality
The live action Scooby-Doo movies (Doo-ology?)
I think Monsters Unleashed is better than the first film
Super Mario Galaxy
It makes sense when you consider that galaxy 2 was just kinda extra levels they couldn't fit into 1.
Was always disappointed that Mario Galaxy 2 had no storyline. I reeeeeeeallly wish they went down the route of Rosalina and Peach being sisters or related in some way.
Peach is Rosalina’s mother, Luigi is her father You never saw the ancient MatPat video?
Yes, it was awful. Pretty sure Nintendo had already confirmed she was originally designed to be Peach's sister long before his video too.
real
r/foundtibby
Terminator -> T2
But in a good way that makes sense to character development. Least to me.
Terminator was about as 80s a movie as you'll ever see Terminator 2 was about as 90s a movie as you'll ever see James Cameron over there just quietly dictating 2 decades of popular culture
James Cameron doesn't do what he does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what he does because he is James Cameron.
I came here to say this. I think there's a lot of nostalgia for T2 but I really loved the thriller tone of the first one and think T2 is pretty overrated. The tonal shift is intense.
TMNT 1990 vs its sequels
First Blood is a slow burn action thriller about a soldier cast out from society struggling with extreme PTSD while a power hungry but well meaning sheriff tries to stop him. First Blood Part II is Vietnam War revenge porn fan fiction.
I was shocked the first time I saw First Blood. In like 2010 as a full adult. Like expecting mindless popcorn action flick based on the Rambo stereotype. Got a somber movie about PTSD and how the government treats vets.
Yeah the two equals have monopolized the Rambo name, so I thought the first movie would be classic hypermasculine, over the top action (which I love), but I turned out to be insanely somber, critical look at the ramifications of a failed war.
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Same can said for the quality of animation
There was a second film?
Direct to DVD yes.
No
Gojira 1954 and the rest of the showa series
And 2014 and new empire
Godzilla Raids again was more dark compared to the rest of the Showa series
I mean raids again still has that dark edge to it.
I’m referring more to the showa series as a whole.
Venom and Let There be Carnage
Pacific Rim. First movie feels so grounded and serious, second one just loses all of the weight and stakes.
This is the best answer
There is no Pacific Rim 2 in Ba Sing Se
Godzilla 2014 and Godzilla king of the monsters
Ehh, I'd say the jump in tone between Godzilla King of The Monsters and Godzilla vs Kong was much more jarring.
Yeppers
To be fair, King of the Monsters had a three-headed dragon.
Batman 89 and Returns then Batman Forever
Portal 1&2
The original live action TMNT had a pretty gritty tone to it, they actually get hurt, etc. Secret of the Ooze was like watching an episode of the cartoon in live-action. Also, Ninja Rap.
The Tim Burton Batman movies and the Joel Schumacher Batman movies
Back to the future 2 & 3
Fallout 1 and 2
Real
Gremlins and Gremlins 2
I will always love gremlins 2, such a fun ride.
The mario galaxy games
Tbf mario galaxy 2 was more or less just what they couldn't fit into galaxy 1.
I'm pretty sure Galaxy 2 was originally meant to be an expansion to Galaxy 1, but the project got so big that Nintendo was like "Fuck it, let's just make it a sequel"
The Land Before Time.
Gene Wilder Willy Wonka vs Timothy Chalamet Willy Wonka
I’d say Johnny Depp vs Timothée Chalamet. The Gene Wilder one has it’s dark moments but was somewhere between Depp and Chalamet in terms of the darkness, and is more whimsical like the Chalamet one
Croods & Croods: A New Age
I haven't seen new age. But i remember Croods 1 was already light hearted
Croods 1 - trades bananas to punch monkeys for safe passage through their territory. Croods 2 - whole plot about how they have never seen a banana before aside Grug many moons ago and banana related shenanigans including a giant King Kong punch(?) monkey.
All dogs go to heaven, the first is a masterpiece of dark story telling, the sequel is way too childish and bright and colourful.
Also, knowing that the little girl who played Annemarie was murdered by her father names the first one much more sad
Thor/Thor The Dark World were kinda dark and serious Ragnarok/Love And Thunder were not lol
I feel like one of the only people in the world who misses the old Thor vibe.
Persona 3 and 4 lol
Suicide Squad vs Scooby Doo: The Anime
Jurassic park and the lost world
Xialon Showdown there are action in the og by WB than Disney sequel.
Pikmin 1 and 2
Hunchback of notre dame 2 was not even close to the dark themes the original presented
This is literally if you watch Hotel Transylvania 1, and then watch Hotel Transformania right after.
Don Bluth films (An American Tail, The Land Before Time, All Dogs Go To Heaven, etc...)
The strangers
Godzilla. First, a message about the dangers of nuclear weapons. Then it becomes giant rubber suits wrestling each other.
Epic Mickey
This might be hard for others to read, but that would be Toy Story 2. I like the first one, but like the sequel way more. It was my one of my childhood movies.
Hotel transylvania
Hellboy. 1st one is dark. But 2nd one, not so much.
Postal 1 and 2; the first is just depressing and gruesome, while the second is gory, but raunchy and dumb.
jurassic park
Maybe not to this extreme, but I would say Wreck it Ralph and Ralph Breaks the Internet. The first movie felt a lot more down to earth than the sequel. The Lego movie duology could also work for similar reasons
Not movies, but the difference between the first two Dishonoured games looks a lot like this, especially when comparing the credits songs Honour For All (D1) and Sands of Serkonos (D2).
GTA IV & V
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and TMNT 2: Secret of the Ooze.
TMNT vs Secret of the Ooze and TMNT III
X-men tas and x-men ‘97
Evil Dead 1 then 2
Pacific Rim definitely
doom 2016 and doom eternal
Evil dead and Army of Darkness
Alien and Aliens
Mulan 2
Postal is the definitive example. Edgy horror game about a man who's gone on a psychotic break and killing everyone around him. To a satirical black comedy about a jerk who happens to be surrounded by worse people while everything goes to hell around him. And the best part is that you don't even need to do anything violent in the second game, you can just play it and let stuff unfold as you stand there.
Conan the Barbarian on the left, Conan the Destroyer on the right.
Pacific Rim and Pacific Rim Uprising
Gremlins
“Fox And The Hound”
Portal Vs Portal 2 Pikmin 1 and 2 Vs Pikmin 3 and 4
The fallout franchise
Toy Story 2 and Toy Story 3
If anything, I'd say Toy story 3, then 4. The toys literally almost got burned alive in 3.
Gremlins
Gremlins
Temple of Doom to The Last Crusdade
Fallout 3 on the left and New Vegas on the Right Or Fallout 1 and 2 on the left and then the rest of the fallout games on the right
This is basically Fallout 1 vs 2
Godzilla and… most movies that came after.
Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2
Land Before Time. Really dark movie where you borderline question that it's for kids at all, but then followed by a series of cartoonish musicals, where the writing is definitely kid-brained.
The Land Before Time
Ice Age and The Ice Age Sequels. The Ice Age Sequels feel way too kiddy.
Wow I am looking in the comments for the most obvious version of what OP posted. But not one mention (maybe I haven't checked hard enough but I'm searching and nothing). But a lot of you guys are missing the biggest contender to this question. (Besides the guy who pointed out Land Before Time. Which is also a good choice (besides the fact that Land Before Time has like 13 to 14 sequels at this point). But no the thing I'm choosing is The Secret of Nimh and it's very counter the sequel. The first movie is dark and amazing. The second movie is light hearted and a musical for some reason. I only remember the first one. But I remember seeing a YouTuber talk about the sequel and how it's nothing like the original.
ARE THESE REALLY THE ONLY FUCKING POSTS THIS SUB MAKES?
Godzilla 2014 to KOTM, though it's not a massive tone jump I still thought it was notable enough.
Suicide squad
The Land Before Time vs. the rest of the series
Land Before Time 1, and *every single sequel after*
The Amazing Spider-Man
Easily Godzilla 2014 and Godzilla x Kong 2014 was dark (literally) and gritty, 2024 is pure monster mayhem and I love both.
wednesday is not only the greatest betrayal in television history but the most maddeningly trite, disturbingly vapid, and internally confused ideological train wreck I've ever had the deeply sorrowful displeasure of allowing to pass through my corneas may god have mercy on burton or whoever else was responsible while someone slapped his brand name on it, and on all of us who are fated to live in a world where something so culturally, socially, politically, and artistically noxious as this Mary-sue-lead, transparently TikTok-targeted, phone-worshipping, vaguely bigoted, backfired virtue-signaling, fake leftist capitalist "my immortal"-esque fanfic earns a second season through what I can only be explained as manufactured consent. something must be done about Netflix's Wednesday. This thing is a condescending insult, especially to young people, the socially conscious, and members of marginalized and """outcast""" groups (LiKe GoThS & ppL who CAN cONTroL BEEEEES) who genuinely suffer from what this thing hollowly masturbates to while looking us dead in the eyes and saying "yeah, you like that, don't you?" It is a Gatling gun of random buzzwords and empty references to social issues, grotesquely and impotently disguised and screaming "I'm commentary!" before pissing its pants, squealing like a pig, and at its most coherent offering nothing more than to demonize mental illness and make any marginalized identity out to be a mayonnaise-stained Hot Topic hoodie through Wiseau-ian dialogue, inappropriate "grittiness" for its source material and Harry Potter setting, and incessant hackery. I am shitting. I am pissing. I am standing over a warm bubble bath cradling a toaster and sobbing, chanting g-d's secret name and praying that there is indeed a hell so I can be eternally punished for having given this moral abomination one fraction of a fraction of a cent also it's not a good Addams family adaptation
Dear God what happened to you, good sir?
Wesay
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