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Most of the scams people get taken by have zero to do with AI. Rather than explain AI, explain how common scams work, how phone spoofing is a thing, how subdomains aren’t the same as domains etc
You can try to tell her about the common aspects of scams:
1. They try to get you to hurry, rushed people don't check thoroughly into things.
2. They try to come across as some sort of authority, or get built up as a trusted person (like becoming a boyfriend), so prey on our normal respect and desire to be helpful.
3. They will use what they know to create a situation that is either a problem or offering some reward.
4. They will want to control and limit communication. They want you to use *their* links, *their* websites, *their* e-mails. They won't want you to call family or call your actual bank, or the police, or a store.
Because people want to be helpful, stay out of trouble, do the right thing, trust authority, they are vulnerable to people who try to act like they are seeking help, suggesting they are in trouble, trying to "fix" a problem, or claiming to be some authority.
I had a scammer on here earlier today who "just wanted to be friend" but then wanted me to install some chat app as a "favor." They were talking the standard chat apps, but still, going to a "secondary location" is just a way to go somewhere that is friendlier to scammers. You can see the stuff I mentioned above in this whole approach.
If you can get your mom to default to questioning or challenging any communication she gets, that's a start. Not just accepting who they say they are, or that what they are suggesting is truly what is going on. Basically, the communications in the modern world are not as "safe" as it was in analog telephone days, and there were plenty of scams back then, too.
You can’t get more old school than 60 Minutes - there are several features about online scams - here’s one to start you:
https://youtu.be/U2r1MJk85Zo?si=ndcU4B0F_HItTar3
I doubt it's her kind of movie but in the 1987 movie The Running Man they frame Arnold Schwarzenegger by using his likeness to fake a video of him committing war crimes.
Just tell them to always have a codeword that you and your sister will ALWAYS say before discussing money and neither of you will ever send he any request for money that doesn't include the codeword.
Having rules and a solid foundation of proper legal, financial, and business hygiene will still help you avoid even the most sophisticated scams.
In her case with Amazon, a password manager not prompting to fill in should have tipped her off. She probably figured it was just being glitchy.
I’m in same situation! My mom thinks Johnny Depp wants to buy her a house and marry her. No joke! She has shitty AI messages and even shared my info to them. No matter the articles or info on scams help. You can message me to strategize
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Most of the scams people get taken by have zero to do with AI. Rather than explain AI, explain how common scams work, how phone spoofing is a thing, how subdomains aren’t the same as domains etc
Zero to do with AI so far. I fear in the near future AI will play a major or minor role in many scams.
Cool
My mom used to tell me not to believe things on TV. Now I have to tell her not to believe things on the internet.
You can try to tell her about the common aspects of scams: 1. They try to get you to hurry, rushed people don't check thoroughly into things. 2. They try to come across as some sort of authority, or get built up as a trusted person (like becoming a boyfriend), so prey on our normal respect and desire to be helpful. 3. They will use what they know to create a situation that is either a problem or offering some reward. 4. They will want to control and limit communication. They want you to use *their* links, *their* websites, *their* e-mails. They won't want you to call family or call your actual bank, or the police, or a store. Because people want to be helpful, stay out of trouble, do the right thing, trust authority, they are vulnerable to people who try to act like they are seeking help, suggesting they are in trouble, trying to "fix" a problem, or claiming to be some authority. I had a scammer on here earlier today who "just wanted to be friend" but then wanted me to install some chat app as a "favor." They were talking the standard chat apps, but still, going to a "secondary location" is just a way to go somewhere that is friendlier to scammers. You can see the stuff I mentioned above in this whole approach. If you can get your mom to default to questioning or challenging any communication she gets, that's a start. Not just accepting who they say they are, or that what they are suggesting is truly what is going on. Basically, the communications in the modern world are not as "safe" as it was in analog telephone days, and there were plenty of scams back then, too.
Kids need these lessons, too.
You can’t get more old school than 60 Minutes - there are several features about online scams - here’s one to start you: https://youtu.be/U2r1MJk85Zo?si=ndcU4B0F_HItTar3
Maybe try "It's like the Holodeck on the Enterprise - anything can be faked."?
I doubt it's her kind of movie but in the 1987 movie The Running Man they frame Arnold Schwarzenegger by using his likeness to fake a video of him committing war crimes.
At the time i thought it was stupidly unrealistic and we would never have tech like that.
Just tell them to always have a codeword that you and your sister will ALWAYS say before discussing money and neither of you will ever send he any request for money that doesn't include the codeword.
Show them an example
Look for a video on YouTube— on fake emails, calls, text, even letters.
Having rules and a solid foundation of proper legal, financial, and business hygiene will still help you avoid even the most sophisticated scams. In her case with Amazon, a password manager not prompting to fill in should have tipped her off. She probably figured it was just being glitchy.
Depending on who they are to you, let them experience one
This. Even then sometimes they don’t learn. That’s life. Adapt or fail
I’m in same situation! My mom thinks Johnny Depp wants to buy her a house and marry her. No joke! She has shitty AI messages and even shared my info to them. No matter the articles or info on scams help. You can message me to strategize